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20 Apr 2021 20:52:55
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20 Apr 2021 23:13:14
Cowards and bullies have been found out! Mostly American, what a surprise! Our beautiful game stays intact, for now! Come on me babies FWAW.

21 Apr 2021 07:25:27
Immediate 15point deduction and a ban on all new signings for 2 years from anywhere but lower leagues.
Unfair to fans but if they are true, so what, they will have to endure some pain! My plan for the 6 want always to prevent repeats.

21 Apr 2021 07:33:38
Greed that’s all bottom line
Either points deduction or transfer bans should be there punishment, pointless fining them.

21 Apr 2021 08:55:55
I can understand the desire to punish, but if it is severe then it may well drive these clubs away. I would rather see a change in the rules that makes it clear that in the future if clubs pursue something similar then they and players will be banned from domestic and international competitions. Set it out in black and white, so the consequences are understood by all. They may also look to changing terms of ownership and ffp, the latter of which prevents smaller clubs growing by investment.

21 Apr 2021 11:59:22
The reasons these clubs gave for this project should now be addressed and the whole game put on a sustainable financial footing, if that includes salary caps then so be it. EPL rules need to be addressed to prevent another farce like this happening again. However I'm not sure point reductions will be helpful IMO.

{Ed002's Note - The concept of a breakaway is not new - it is discussed regularly by a group of a maximum of 21 clubs who discuss other broad matters as well. This was just the response to a threat made by Liverpool and Manchester United.}

21 Apr 2021 12:37:20
If you don’t punish these greedy clubs then what message does that send?

21 Apr 2021 12:48:06
Ed002 True I recall reading about the possibility of a future midweek European league in the old Shoot! Magazine in the 1970's. The idea is by no means new!

21 Apr 2021 14:05:12
Imo the chief executives or/ and the owners are the ones to be punished.
These super 6 clubs of ours in England all have fans past and present who are exactly the same as us and the other fans in this country.

Back to us wolves,
I feel good and happy with fosun and nuno.

21 Apr 2021 14:48:23
I was impressed with the club's statement. Clear and in accordance with football history, understanding the fans, and a statement of intent, well said Fosun.

21 Apr 2021 15:34:04
Agree Phil, don't punish players and supporters for the mistakes of the owners. If the reasons given for the super league are genuine these owners will willingly support reform surely!

21 Apr 2021 21:00:24
Trouble is Arddunby/ Phil if the clubs get no punishment, do you really punish the owners as a competition ban, points deduction, etc, would affect share values, merchandising, and TV revenues. The fact that players, managers and fans may suffer adds to the punishment of the owners. This was a serious attempt by a few to destroy football as we know it, for their own selfish ends. Punishment must be severe and meaningful.

22 Apr 2021 11:45:26
Longmynd I get that but any sanction must be within the rules and you can bet these owners have had high paid legal minds go through the rules with a toothcomb to make sure that any immediate punishments could be challenged legally. It could do far more harm than good.

22 Apr 2021 13:59:25
Yes Arddunby but so have the owners of the other 14 clubs, Premier League, EUFA and FIFA who all seem united in the call for sanctions. I am not sure if there would be such a clamour if rules were not in place. Doesn't the Premier have a rule about not entering or playing in competitions without their approval. I suppose it will come down to did they sign up to play in or just discuss the ESL. As you say 'legal' definitions of the wording. I'm guessing it was the former given the ESL statements.

22 Apr 2021 14:49:08
Longmynd the last part of your post is key to this, was anything in writing as a commitment or were the statements just some form of verbal admission of interest. Presumably the 6 did not submit an intention to resign and they haven't played in any other competition. Only beneficiaries will be Lawyers I suspect.

23 Apr 2021 06:31:37
Never did believe ESL would happen. Just desperate Spanish clubs sounding off, but Rules will have to be toughened NOW!

{Ed001's Note - it's not dead yet. There are still talks ongoing. It won't go away any time soon.}

20 Apr 2021 19:42:41
Looks like the Super League is already falling apart. This could present an opportunity to level the playing field regarding financial input the so called big clubs are able to invest. Because FFP is anything but. Hope the FA have the guts to make an example of these money grabbers who have total disregard for the people who are genuine fans. Possibly more rants to follow.

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20 Apr 2021 19:49:44
Man City, Chelsea out, sense prevailing.

20 Apr 2021 20:05:21
They should still be booted out of league for starting the ESL even though they left now.

20 Apr 2021 20:16:46
Woodward resigns.

20 Apr 2021 20:19:30
If the news about Man City and Chelsea is true then the ESL is a complete joke. How can people like this run multi Bn £ businesses? Bunch of chancers who, if they don't back off, should be thrown out as incompetent to run football clubs.

20 Apr 2021 20:24:29
And Ed Woodward resigns from utd, lol.
Scapegoat?

Up the wolves
NUNO and FOSUN.

20 Apr 2021 20:39:42
Still punish `em!

20 Apr 2021 20:39:56
Rumours going around that Agnelli has resigned from Juventus.

20 Apr 2021 21:01:55
When will the Champions parade commence seeing as we have been given the 2018/ 19 title? :)

20 Apr 2021 21:29:46
All the perpetrators of this should be identified and banned from football for life. Beef up the rules on owners and their responsibilities and impose sanctions on all of the clubs involved including Man City and Chelsea.

20 Apr 2021 21:56:56
Hope they don`t just let them off Long`.
To big for there boots.

20 Apr 2021 22:21:37
I don't see how they can wombourneron, examples will have to be made. But let's also not forget that EUFA themselves effectively shut the door on clubs outside the so called top six by the introduction of FFP. That needs sorting as well.

20 Apr 2021 23:13:25
I think I read somewhere that FFP is in the process of being changed Long`. May be wrong. Perhaps Ed can shed some light. A 30 point deduction for all 6 next season would satisfy me.

{Ed002's Note - The FFP changes were to overcome COVID-19 losses by splitting the reporting period - but still giving clubs the opportunity to get their house in order. That is at international level. At FA level the changes are for the same purpose but specifics have been removed with clubs reminded of their responsibilities. It does not mean clubs can run wild spending money they don’t have.}

20 Apr 2021 19:36:38
Chelsea binned ESL.

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20 Apr 2021 20:19:09
We have won! Football has won! I loved the reaction of everybody in the game, ban these 'owners' from the game, end of. They must be punished. Put Perez and Woodward in jail. Gary Neville has been different class during this nonsense, No reprieve for Tesco, YES! FWAW.

20 Apr 2021 17:45:42
Statement from Wolves.

The English football pyramid will prosper with or without those who are willing to destroy more than a century of tradition and bring our beloved game into disrepute.

History. Tradition. Competition.

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20 Apr 2021 17:58:13
I think it's a very good, articulate and passionate statement. Well done Wolves.

20 Apr 2021 18:44:57
It is an excellent statement, I look forward to other clubs of the 14 making a similar statement. What likelihood the 14 will state that they will not play against the greedy six in a domestic competition if the ESL do not back down?

20 Apr 2021 19:06:48
That thought crossed my mind Wimborne. That would mean they would only play 10 games in the season.

20 Apr 2021 21:11:24
Brilliant statement from wolves and fosun showing commitment respect and ambition. Reflects the pyramid of hope aspiration and reality of the downs as well as ups. The 6 clubs should now be held in shame and although I know its not the players or their fans fault, . penalised in some fashion and that would be in the greedy owners pockets. Proud to be a member of this wonderful club who led the english league in europe in the early days leading to today's situation where the greedy think they can monopolise it. The pack is strong, there's strength in the pack. COYW.

21 Apr 2021 00:34:19
Ithink all six should be punished but deducting points would be unfair as the managers and players didn't want it fine them a milion each and distribute it leuige one and two.

21 Apr 2021 09:21:20
Million pounds pocket money to them . They need to be brought into line and all premier clubs have the same amount of total budget in a season, take the opportunity to level the playing field, then they will have to run a proper business model .

21 Apr 2021 14:38:41
Norfolk - like your post. I would look at the basketball model where you CAN spend over the deemed base level but you have to pay into a central pot an increasing percentage of your over spend, that money is then distributed to the non over spenders.
Maybe it could be on turnover of salaries paid out.
For example for clubs with salary bills up to say £50m pa no tax. This would mean that no clubs outside of the Prem would pay the tax.
But
From £50m to £75m 10%
From £75m to £100m 20%
From £100m to £150m 30%
From £150 to £200m 40%
From £200m to £300m 50%
From £300m and over 60%
This would mean Wolves with a wage bill of circa £94m would pay just over £6m in over super tax.
But Chelsea with a wage bill of £284m would pay circa £86m of super tax.
As these tax payments would count towards FFP hopefully it would curtail to some extent the activities of the so called big clubs and make the Prem league more competitive and financially balanced. It would also provide a fair amount of cash to support teams further down the pyramid
I guess as the players would see sharp downward pressure on their salaries it may not be a popular measure with the players and may see an exodus of talent to other countries where this rule wasn't implemented. However I suspect salaries in England are far higher than elsewhere and so the consequences may not be as dire as you might imagine.

21 Apr 2021 17:39:35
Thefutureisoldgold. Good to have like minded people, I would like to think the FA might consider these type of parameters but doubt it, I think there will be a lot of skullduggery, handshakes, and palm greasing or maybe it’s just my cynical mind but the so called big clubs usually come out smelling of roses.

20 Apr 2021 16:17:23
If the Premier League had started in a different era the "Big six" would as they think they are would look very different. If the big Clubs in the 50's had seen the future Wolves, Portsmouth, Sunderland and Newcastle would have been at the forefront while Liverpool would have missed out and be languishing in the lower leagues, other Clubs who lost out by being in the wrong place at the wrong time include Derby of the 70's / 80's and Ipswich in the 80's. All these Clubs have been top dogs and we're all hope to be again one day, today's elite Clubs know they can't keep their places by playing fair on the field and have resorted to trying to buy their places at the expense of everyone else, these owners don't have a clue and as the fans are about to show them, English football doesn't work like that, that's why it's great and that's why we love it. We'd be left with a better game if these money mad owners gathered up their Millions and sailed off into the sunset on their superyachts.

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20 Apr 2021 16:36:59
Oh so true Oxley Moor Ron. Must include cloughie's forest in the list too though.

20 Apr 2021 16:46:25
Great post Oxley.

20 Apr 2021 16:58:26
Superb post Oxley - I would note that Huddersfield dominated football in the 20s whilst Chelsea were nowhere until yesterday ( in relative terms anyway) .
Awful fear is that there will be a compromise whereby they stay with us but are gteed a greater share of television revenues and perhaps other benefits (autoatic qualification for Europe or larger squads or more sus etc etc) so that it is made even harder for "outsiders" to compete. Maybe Arsenal could ask for a goal a game start on the upstarts like Wolves - that way they may have a chance!

20 Apr 2021 17:18:18
Excellent posts guys. The level of arrogance is unbelievable. Can't actually put what I really think of them on here but I'm sure you can guess!

20 Apr 2021 17:35:22
Just to get on board with these great posts from you all, how do Spurs always get to be regarded as an elite club? They never win anything, we usually play them off the park! Only twice been Champions of England (Wolves= 3 times) and last time was 1961! Let 'em all go. FWAW.

20 Apr 2021 17:43:23
True Prestonwolf, what exactly qualifies Spurs as a big club. Since the last of their 2 titles wins in 1961, Leeds, Derby, Villa, Everton, Blackburn, Nottingham Forest and Leicester have all won the title. Villa and Forest have won the European Cup. So the richest, not the most successful clubs are being classed as the biggest clubs and the big 6 have the cheek to suggest that this not about money.

20 Apr 2021 17:45:38
Great posrs above. Excellent statement on Wolves website, says it all.

20 Apr 2021 18:06:25
I say good riddance to them all. I see the balance of power once more returning to the Midlands. The new order will mean a top 6 consisting of Wolves, Villa and Leicester.
Stick together and stay positive 👍.

20 Apr 2021 19:00:54
Futureisgold- Good to hear from you again, hope all is well.

21 Apr 2021 07:09:56
Ditto,
Hope alls well Thefutureisoldgold.

21 Apr 2021 14:42:23
Taff - tks. My wife is good friends with a lady who comes from St Davids and so C.V. permitting it seems our hols this summer are going to be restricted to a visit to West Wales and a week or so in South Wales. What apart from Cardiff and St Davids are the "must dos"

21 Apr 2021 14:49:10
Phil - v sorry not to have let you know earlier. Didn't get the job in Bristol and the one in Zurich is "cheques in the post" being put back weeks after week so that I have lost interest really. Fortunately Zambia with my son looks unlikely thanks to the C.V. so don't actually "need" the money!
Hope all ok with you and your brother.
Maybe next season I will get involved in the footie chat again but for now will keep my posts limited to non controversial things like the ESL!

22 Apr 2021 08:46:17
Thefutureisoldgold- Well there’s lots to see and do mainly in West Wales where the coast line is littered with beautiful bays. Swansea is really nice, from the Mumbles right around the coast Caswell bay is my favourite I was there last week and will be going tomorrow. Also Rhossili bay is worth a visit the views there are amazing and there’s a nice pub overlooking the beach that does good meals. On your way to St David’s you must visit the harbour town of Tenby it has a lot of history lovely cafe’s and family friendly pubs and restaurants and the beach and views are spectacular. South Wales doesn’t have as much to offer, Cardiff is a lovely City and the Brecon Beacons are not to far away. Hopefully the C.V. restrictions would have eased by the time you travel. I can go into more detail closer to the time you travel if you wish.

22 Apr 2021 13:09:36
Taff - tks.
What about the "big pit" is that worth a visit. We love history including heritage stuff. A few years ago we went down a drift mine in Durham and it was an experience I will never forget despite being highly sanitised versus the real thing - we stopped when we could still just about stand up whilst I gather the face required you to crawl on your belly!
Have friends who raved about Tenby as well so good call - tks.
will def get back in touch when/ if we firm up a date.

22 Apr 2021 18:06:06
Future- I didn’t realise you were interested in mining, the Big Pit in Blaenavon is definitely worth a visit and is free entry. Also Cyfarttha Castle is only a mile from my house and has a good museum of the iron master Crawshay who lived there and I’ll gladly show you.

20 Apr 2021 12:20:09
2019 champions aye we lol.
Good to see our club having a bit of banter on Twitter.

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20 Apr 2021 16:17:25
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That’s all very well but where is the statement from The Club about their official views?

20 Apr 2021 16:38:16
Meeting being held today I believe between the 14 other clubs.

20 Apr 2021 16:52:15
They have ' vigorously rejected ' the plan apparently.

20 Apr 2021 17:01:47
Interesting statement from amazon saying they're not involved in any talks about or supportive of a super league, do I sense an opportunity to take the reins from SKY/ BT for our domestic games? Hope so, because my subscriptions to the other two will go.

20 Apr 2021 09:03:54
If Wolves said they were joining a breakaway league who would stop supporting them?

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20 Apr 2021 09:42:11
Interesting poser windowolf. My club is wolves, I don't come from Wolverhampton, they've always been the wolves. That said Wolverhampton wanderers fc are dear in my heart and as as such are the same to me. The history of the club I feel is mine, my memory's are mine, my elation and joy are mine, my tears at being relegated when I was a boy were mine, my doldrums in the lower leagues were mine. So for some anonymous money chasing conglomerate to take those possessions from me, to a place where the only competition is money, then I feel it is a theft of my heartfelt love of everything wolves.
The new incarnation would seem a different beast, although molineux is our home and allegiance would be difficult. I want nothing to do with a 'new' wolves as it stands, but they'll always be in my psyche.

20 Apr 2021 09:45:28
Well it wouldn't be for the working class would it. the big midweek matches abroad would only be for the rich and then the genuine fans would go and see a weakened team put out at the weekend. if this super league happens then I strongly believe that they should not compete in our domestic football. Let them sort their own cups and tournaments out. I also think that the so called big 6 should have a 20 point deduction no matter what happens cus they've gone against all ethics of our game. Football is not the same now with VAR but this ludicrous idea will kill it dead and how come certified and rangers have been omitted? Doesn't matter what league they play in they're still massive clubs. I'm at a loss with the people in football now and fan's are the ones that get it in the neck.

20 Apr 2021 10:06:11
Sorry. celtic and ranger's.

20 Apr 2021 10:57:21
If the Shameless Six and their players are banned from all other competitions, two things will happen ; a) Conor Coady will lead England into the Euros, and b) Tesco will be saved from a deserved relegation! FWAW.

20 Apr 2021 11:34:58
Preston-yes that came into my mind also about the Tesco's-they always get away with it. Interestingly, however if UEFA kept Champions league and Europa league-have a feeling we would qualify for the latter if we finished 12th-work it out!

20 Apr 2021 12:15:53
Wolves official website claim, jokingly, that we are PL Champions 18/ 19. After we finished 7th behind the Shameful Six! FWAW.

20 Apr 2021 13:24:53
If we joined a competition similar to one that's currently being suggested, which goes against the basic elements of competition and fair play then I would stop supporting the club instantly! Not just on principle but more because what's the point?! No relegation, next to no promotion (save an anointed five clubs) and frankly no REAL competitive competition for 80% of the teams there! The basis of the Super League is wrong but more than that I think (as Klopp intimated last night) all we would be left with is some very well paid friendlies! No thanks, I'd rather watch a sport where things like fair play, genuine competition and the clubs supporters are ACTUALLY valued rather than ignored!

20 Apr 2021 13:28:03
With you there Lex. Especially a massive points deduction if this super league does not get off the ground. The fact that they have signed up for it HAS to be punished.

20 Apr 2021 14:33:54
Window,
My answer is I wouldn't stop looking out for wolves, but would not pay a penny going to games, merchandise etc etc.

We got the prime minister fighting to stop it I just read on news feed.

I hope it doesn't go ahead fingers crossed.

The timing of announcement still in the c. v. all clubs suffering financially all fans the same suffering with the c. v. a disgrace it is.

20 Apr 2021 15:06:11
Yes Bully. If we joined a meaningless league to win a meaningless cup, I would also cease to be a supporter. As painful as it would be.

20 Apr 2021 16:45:38
A rep at work told me something about a monopoly tax and he thinks the government will stop it.

21 Apr 2021 17:45:04
Even though the so called big 6s fans have done a great job, Bolton, Wigan, and sheff we'd fans did nothing wrong either,?

20 Apr 2021 08:01:26
We will be mathematically safe if Fulham and west Brom lose their next match and we beat Burnley,
No more shaking like a pooping dog ha ha.

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20 Apr 2021 09:49:26
Everyone keeps forgetting that Sandwell need to finish 1 point above bottom 3 cus of good and to be honest if them lot and Fulham get out of this then they deserve to stay up and that's been hard for me to say phil. I think the 3 there now are the 3 that's down.

20 Apr 2021 10:07:30
My predicted spelling sorry good I mean.

20 Apr 2021 10:19:38
I havnt looked or done any maths but could we cosign the poorthorn lot to relegation when we beat them?

20 Apr 2021 10:34:11
Yes and it would be great 👍.

20 Apr 2021 10:40:59
I done the maths and yes Abbey if results went we would consign the Albion to relegation.
I did work it out in 9.567 seconds though lol.
COYW.

20 Apr 2021 10:54:45
Clever clogs phil, as my mum would say. Oh wouldn't it be a good way to take revenge?

20 Apr 2021 11:02:15
It would take a freak set of results for us to go down not just Fulham but all the teams in between have to go above us I don't think they will all get to 40 points anyway

I still say we will get to 50 points which is ok for a poor season.

20 Apr 2021 11:21:33
I got lucky mate👍.
I'm on the go on it like a scotch bonnet at work.

20 Apr 2021 18:06:08
50 points I reckon which ain't too bad for a crap season.

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