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28 Jun 2022 06:00:16
For another transfer window I’m now starting to get frustrated I have had complete faith in Fosun but this is now becoming ridiculous how do we seem to not have money to spend last season the bench looked okay for 1 game when everybody was fit we’re in desperate need of a striker 2 midfielders a right wing back and possibly a CB and I just can’t see us signing anyone at the moment we get linked with so many players and we never seem to sign them anymore if we stick with what we’ve got then it will be a bottom half finish for us this season. We’ve stood still in the market and building our team and I hate to say it but Villa throw 100 mil a season at least at it we can’t be all that far behind them in terms of revenue and being able to invest in the squad

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28 Jun 2022 06:30:21
All that we have hangs by a rotten thread. Will it break?
It’s never too early to panic!

28 Jun 2022 08:01:04
Having faith in Fosun is one thing BUAWS but faith in the people involved in getting transfers over the line is something else. All the secrecy doesn't work as three times this window alone others have either stepped in and pinched the player at the last minute or the player has decided against us.
To be frustrated by this is NOT being negative as this has been going on for several years now, for example, we've chased Palhinha for 2 years, appear to finally have him, then let him go to a newly promoted team for allegedly less money, why?
Ok, if it's because Neves is staying then tell us that to put a stop to fan discontent and conspiracy theories.
We have released/returned/loaned out about half a dozen good players from an already thread bear squad with, so far, nothing coming the other way. Let's hope there's something about to break, as others on here have suggested, if only for our collective sanity's sake.

28 Jun 2022 08:22:40
What goof has it done Villa throwing money around? Nothing from what I have seen, throwing money around won't improve us, getting the right players in will, it will take time to get our targets as most players are on holiday still for another week, I believe Bruno will get a couple of his players in, as fans we need to have a little patience and faith the negativity on here is unreal

28 Jun 2022 08:54:51
It's not negativity Sydney, more like frustration and let's hope Bruno gets more than a couple of players in given the numbers from the first team squad that have left.
I don't disagree with you about Villa, so far, but they are now signing good players, not championship quality like before. Wolves have had some poor windows of late, for whatever reason, with this one seen as vital to re-invigorate the team. Let's hope it is just holidays but if I was a player I'd be wanting to secure my future before hitting the beach, so I do doubt that's a valid reason.

28 Jun 2022 09:04:21
Sydneywolf

Just look at the last few transfer windows you can see why alarm bells are starting to ring, me included it's not so much
that no one has been incoming, it's the outgoings at present
= threadbare squad. A couple of seasons ago we reached a platform to spring from but now we have fallen off,and need to start again if Fosun still have the desire

28 Jun 2022 09:22:59
It's not negative to raise this issue. It's like saying you're not patriotic because you criticise it.
The last couple of years have seen a change in Fosun's attitude. They've gone from, "lets make Wolves great again" to "well may be soon". I'm not convinced this hasn't got something to do with domestic Chinese politics.

28 Jun 2022 10:11:41
Only the press suggested that we were trying for Paulinha.

28 Jun 2022 10:13:45
With injuries players loss of form coming back from injury,players not taking chances whang traore jiminez we would/could/should be in Europe now.

Fosun take all the blame for having small squad but other than meltdown last 10 games fosun nearly got us in Europe when a lot were fearing relegation.

Yes players left saiss and marcal they need replacing and there still time.
Just saying my basis for why I remain hopeful.

28 Jun 2022 09:50:17
My point on villa is year on year there improving and signing top quality players the last time we had any real excitement over a signing was Nelson Semedo if we’re honest they’ve also just announced they are to install 10,000 extra seats we were told to dream big I try to be positive as I can and il still go to every home game and a fair few away next season but they need to give us something to have the same belief that we can challenge for Europe and believe we can beat anyone on our day it sounds like we’re asking a lot but from the money we have left over from previous player sales and tv rights money surely we have 80-100 to spend without more player sales and seeing 2 keepers on the bench as happened in a couple of games last year I know where we’ve come from and I’m grateful to Fosun for it but I don’t want to see it ripped away now and some games last year we had some real stinking performances possibly due to lack of being able to freshen up the squad with the same quality as the first 11

28 Jun 2022 11:41:35
Winton, the Palhinha saga has been going on for a couple of years now. How or why would the press keep that one going if there was no truth in it.
If Wolves weren't chasing him why would they allow that rumour to perpetuate to the point that it has? They could simply have said ' no we're not after him' was my point.

28 Jun 2022 12:03:48
Probably the sane reason why we didn't respond to the annual Talisca rumours. Why would the club comment on a story that the media run just for clickbait?

28 Jun 2022 12:08:34
Even if Neves is going to stay I would still sign palhinha.
Moutinho is another year older, and can't go on forever, surely a succession plan is common sense.
Say if one of Neves or moutinho gets injured?
Cundle,as good as he looks and dendoncker ain't adequate replacement's, palhinha would compliment and strengthen what we already have.
How can we let Fulham jump in front of us if we have had him on our radar for 2yr?
Poor planning to blame for me.

28 Jun 2022 13:47:30
The press has rarely got things right regarding Wolves incoming players. They didn't have a clue when Mosquera arrived, nor RAN
and I seem to remember that when Neves and our other Portuguese ensemble arrived there was very little being said prior to their arrival. The club are very tight lipped regarding targets, which drives us all mad, and I'm sure that they don't leak info to the press who are left guessing just like the rest of us.

27 Jun 2022 19:19:22
Is the Wolves academy ever going to produce a Premier League player or just going to carry on bringing them through to loan out to Championship Clubs? And Grasshoppers.

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29 Jun 2022 08:52:03
I think I read that the club don't look to the Academy / Grasshoppers to produce the next crop of players. They are tools to develop players and sell them at a profit

27 Jun 2022 16:38:02
Was watching Skysports and they had a couple of interviews with some players at the Bobby Robson charity golf event in Portugal, the discussion was about Bale going to LAFC but one of the people interviewed for a Welsh perspective was our old goalie Paul Jones.

Seeing him (who hasn't changed at all in 20 years from what I could see) brought back some great memories of penalty shoot-outs and penalty saves in general.

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28 Jun 2022 02:27:55
That's how most clubs tend to work loan out academy players to gain valuable first team match experience.

28 Jun 2022 13:16:50
That was meant for Oxleys post above not yours Wolf mate lol, no idea how it ended up here I must have clicked reply on yours by mistake.

27 Jun 2022 11:06:39
Six Premier League clubs are yet to make a signing in this transfer window.
Wolves are one of those six clubs.
Exciting times.

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27 Jun 2022 11:38:39
Matt wild q/a a good read E.

27 Jun 2022 17:27:34
E accentuate the positive at least we're in the top six for something! 😁😁😁

27 Jun 2022 18:32:05
Thanks Phil I watched it.
Basically he is saying that there are new rules coming in regarding the amount of players you are allowed to loan out but we are going to get creative and find a way round the new rules.
They are looking to make Compton more comfortable as they have too many staff down there and they need more room.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for new players as the top clubs generate a lot more money than little old Wolves.

Review Of The Day 25th June 2022

27 Jun 2022 07:39:12
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 25th June 2022

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26 Jun 2022 10:05:06
Lage said that Wolves should have next season's team together when training commences. Also said that the transfer market has a domino effect, which explains the lack of movement because of there has been no sale of Neves. But what's happening with our 'advisor' Jorge Mendes? Why has his transfer experience not landed us any transfers in at all? I have the feeling Mendes has too many fingers in too many pies and is finding it hard to juggle so many different allegiances.

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26 Jun 2022 11:14:44
Domino effect doesn't just relate to Neves. It relates to other clubs buying and selling. For example if Chelsea bring in Sterling (may or may not happen, just an example) that will cause one of their forwards (probably Werner) to go. Wherever he goes may mean that club sell a player and so on.

Manchester Utd released quite a few players at the end of the season and will want to improve with a new manager after a poor campaign by their standards. They are likely to cause a big knock on effect in the market as they need to bring quite a few players in and have the money to do so. As of yet they haven't made a single signing either.

Any incomings will be on a need to know basis, and most likely we'll get to know just before they're unveiled in the shirt.

26 Jun 2022 11:27:14
Goggs. I don't think any of us have said it would be easy but most expected some movement quite early, hopefully the beginning of July will prove to be positive who knows!

Let's hope we don't get to the close of the window and Bruno having to do Jim Bowen's Bullseye "here's who we could have had, if only!"

26 Jun 2022 12:02:08
Were being outspent by Nottingham forest,🤔🤔🤔

26 Jun 2022 12:43:58
Greyleg but we aren't planning for getting relegated at the end of the season like to they probably will!

26 Jun 2022 13:41:21
Ken I don’t think Burnley were planning on getting relegated last season.
We have some quality players and should be too good to go down but if the team spirit is not good and rumours of fighting amongst theirselves we could find ourselves nearer the bottom than the top.
First and foremost we should be outbidding the likes of Forest and Fulham to stop them gaining ground like the big clubs do to us.
Also for Adama to leave it will need a club to pay £20 - £30 million and pay him higher wages than we are prepared to and Besiktas took Saiss on for two years so why are we penny pinching?

26 Jun 2022 13:43:45
So we sell MGW and Traore for £35 million not quite enough to buy a relegated centre half from Burnley 🤔
So last seasons wafer thin squad has lost Ruddy,Hoever,Saiss,Marcal,Giles,MGW,Traore and Trincao.
Guys really hope Sellars has got a handle on this, if we successfully promote 1-2 under 23s to become first team regulars that would be a right result but would still leave us 5-6 Players short.
Hopefully exiting days and weeks ahead.
We cannot be complacent next year may well be the toughest Premiership campaign, we need to be squad ready.

26 Jun 2022 14:25:13
Can’t be domino effect, no one draws the “Double Blank” every hand.

26 Jun 2022 14:26:14
Fair comment @ The realist (regarding Newcastle buying a CB for £35m) but relegated clubs always want silly money for players when they get relegated. Sunderland paid £12.5m for Steven Fletcher from us, he scored 23 goals that’s circa £.5m per goal.

I also agree with the thread bare squad. Let’s see what happens.

26 Jun 2022 22:33:08
. From mystic meg,
We ain't signing a big name,that costs millions,were being out bid by Fulham now,neves gone soon,followed by sa,podence,netto,Silva,mouts,coady,
Dendonker,semedo,nouts,hwang,
Kilman,boly,

27 Jun 2022 07:25:36
Stop eating cheese before bedtime Greyleg mate lol that is one hell of a nightmare.
Keep the faith all will be alright and everyone's worries will be gor nothing I believe 😃👍

27 Jun 2022 11:11:37
😂😂😂😂,it was a few specled hens,
Sorry.

27 Jun 2022 11:24:14
Lol good man good man 🥃👍👍👍👍😃
🤜🤛🔊🔊🔊🤪👍

27 Jun 2022 11:51:33
Good man for having good booze 👍

27 Jun 2022 12:54:51
Might as well admit we’re a good Championship Club, can’t compete in the transfer market, can’t upgrade Molineux to anywhere near what’s becoming the norm in the Premiership (50 - 60,000) would probably still get crowds of 20 - 25,000 maybe more if we’re having a good season, wouldn’t be no worse than hanging on for a couple more seasons waiting for the inevitable, if ever a Club needed taking over.

27 Jun 2022 13:50:53
Sorry Oxley if I am too positive I imagine how you feel reading my daft and positive posts but I sincerely don't post to deliberately do people's heads in.
I'm genuine and it will be more fool me if what you suggest is a reality.
I have everything to lose where as the ones already given up can only gain.

27 Jun 2022 13:53:45
Ps I watched Steve Bulls 4 England goals on youtube on my dinner break to cheer myself up.

27 Jun 2022 16:32:41
Phil me old mucker, I'm with you with optimism and faith. I seriously think a few on here may be looking a bit stupid in a couple of weeks time. Either that or we place trust in any team we have left. Waving white flags before a player has left or joined is plain stupidity. No matter what, no matter who, we are wolves and hold the belief. Got me mid layer backroom top today, abit on the large size this year. What about this seasons shirt? You your bro's ok?, maybe I've lost a few pounds. Anyway bring on some games and new faces. COYW

27 Jun 2022 17:15:58
Let’s face it fosun are not going to shell out money before funds are in from sales. However, where is the money from vinaigre and Mir. We could have got Paulinho with that plus a little extra. IF we sell Neves IF we sell Traore IF we sell MGW then a bare minimum of £80m would be generated plus the £15m from Mir and vinagre . Total £95m . Can anyone see wolves spending that if they had it. I admire the optimists and the COYW brigade but the facts are that fosun are not spending big and Large needs to realise if he doesn’t already that they no longer share his ambition

27 Jun 2022 17:33:13
Yes mendez handles every client personally. All nearly 1000 of them.

You realise he only tends to the highest profile ones right and only at certain stages and that he has a whole company?

27 Jun 2022 17:48:18
I'm also with you for the optimism Phil - if I wasn't life would be very very sad. Yes I'd love to see some major signings and the club spending, but I know it's not as simple as that. Best league positions in years and not good enough for some.

It reminds me of someone I used to work with. Would moan there wasn't a dedicated sales person to bring in more work, then half an hour later moan he had too much to do.

I'd rather the club get the right signings than the wrong ones. I keep seeing discontent that Fulham can supposedly outspend Wolves. Fulham have done that twice in recent years and guess what - both times they got relegated.

The club currently has the best owners it probably has in 80 years. It's how you spend the money and how you grow that matters. Not how much.

27 Jun 2022 18:12:17
Cheers Abbey my bro is sorted 👍

There still time for signings and surprises.

Understand Gracol and never doubt your integrity or anyone else's.

I think once the season starts then that's it we will have what we have and then the buzz and excitement starts.
At present it's just another day without any signings it's frustrating.But once seasons away always got the next match coming up.
Also post match thoughts player ratings etc etc.

27 Jun 2022 19:03:23
Ditto Alex, ditto phil, be realistic were in the prem, we've been in fa semi, we've been in eufa and finished top half. We've got 'proper' games each week and still running after cv. As I said we havnt lost any main men,only those we knew. We've got the young and untried in chinquito mosquiro toti, youngsters from U23 who can stake their claims and I'm sure there will be some changes in coming weeks, it's exciting times again. Some on here had us relegated before the 1st game last year, it'll be the same again I'm sure. I'm fed up at the lack of movement player wise and it could be bargain bucket time but I'm wolves and loyal, no matter where we go it'll be COYW and I'll be proud to say it. Fairweather fans can get their stay away if they must.

28 Jun 2022 06:58:40
Always with you Abbey and Alex.
There nothing no fan can do other than just wait.
Up the wolves.

Review Of The Day 25th June 2022

26 Jun 2022 07:39:26
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 25th June 2022

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25 Jun 2022 22:59:28
All - apologies have been on hols not ignoring you!
Phil I went - as is my habit - down to the SW. Visited Lulworth cove and Durdle door - fantastic walking albeit v v steep hills.
Stayed in West Bay - AKA Broadchurch and the site of Harbour lights - Nick Berry for the older posters!
OK but again really good walking - visited a cider farm, a Steam railway and some NT properties - good weather and great food!
Arddunby - you are absolutely correct in your understanding!
BB and all - You are correct the problems Fosun are allegedly facing should not impact Wolves other than we won't get any money from them - but we haven't for two years anyway!
Wimborne - excellent analysis although I think there have been problem for Chinese companies - notably in CRE for some time now but the contagion may well have been only in the last 2 months. Their investor presentation of 3 months ago certainly gives no hint of any issues - but I guess it wouldn't would it!
Ken sincerely hope that you are fighting fit - or as close to it as is possible asap! Ps Looking forward to seeing your boy on TV again soon!
Finally Norfolk - thousand apologies for not replying to you. Naturally you are correct, I can only claim that my comments were human nature. We over praise things we like and over criticise things we don't. Hyperbole is king! Hence Traore particularly over the last 6 months at Wolves wasn't as good as I might have wanted/painted him and Silva and Trincao weren't as bad. But it is all relative Traore surely to anyone's eyes was substantially better than either of the other 2 - even though Silva hugely improved over his second season.

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26 Jun 2022 06:51:07
Nice to read your post Thefutureisoldgold pal👍
Good to hear your hols.
Fingers crossed we get some signings can't wait for the season to start.
You're an old school proper gentleman like me old man was no higher complement possible lol.
Up the mighty wolves and hopefully we will have more highs than lows.

26 Jun 2022 15:47:58
Cheers Tfig, glad you enjoyed the Jurassic coast, and had some fine weather. I was back from Iceland Wednesday with covid, negative today though, and the sun is shining.

26 Jun 2022 16:07:33
Wimborne - sorry to hear that. I hope it didn't spoil your trip. I have never been to Iceland - is it worth a visit?
ps assume by your moniker that we were v close to you then - we drove via Winchester to Lulworth, right past Wimborne.

26 Jun 2022 22:09:32
Future
Nice to have you back, love your honesty and looking forward to
A few more debates,

26 Jun 2022 22:16:33
Future
Forgot to say yes you were right re Traore better than the other two but it didn't take much did it?
Cheers

27 Jun 2022 07:53:42
Last day of the test I believe Thefutureisoldgold remember you into your cricket.
Great to see post Norfolk 👍

27 Jun 2022 08:52:47
Hello Phil
Hope all is well with you and your brother, looking forward to
another season,just hope we do get a few fresh experienced faces in.

27 Jun 2022 10:50:14
Hi Norfolk all is alright with my brother and myself thanks.
Agree be nice to see a few signings.
Really looking forward to the new season so boring in close season.
My Birmingham fans colleagues their club in dire straights so they love it to knock the wolves me,all good fun though.
Best wishes and good health Norfolk mate you too a proper gentleman as all you elder guys are.
Come on the Wolves.

27 Jun 2022 15:06:13
Cheers Phil

25 Jun 2022 14:16:32
With all the speculation about signing Paulinho and Nunes and that being subject to money from Neves's sale, it is looking likely both he and Moutinho may stay, with MGW and possibly Dendonker and Podence still under contract, what would is your ideal midfield be? Mine Neves Moutinho MGW with Podence and Dendonker on the bemch, oh that's almost what we played most of last season, comments please.

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25 Jun 2022 14:37:25
Can't disagree with that Hednesford as it would still be one of the better midfields in the Prem. Probably Moutinho's ability to survive another full season would be my only concern, no disrespect to him.
Obviously, the addition of Nunez would raise the bar, especially if we keep Neves as well, but for me the real priority is the lack of goals, so any additions up front should be a priority or whatever the club achieves in midfield could be wasted.

25 Jun 2022 16:20:49
We need to change system.
Five at the back is outdated and Bruno said he wanted to change it when he first came to the club.
We need to be on the front foot at home as fans don’t want to see us sitting back and conceding goals while not having any shots on target ourselves.
Bruno should be open about the type of players he wants to sign to fit his system and if he is not backed he should call out the ones in charge of the chequebook.
Can’t see Pep and Jurgen being told who they have to sign and fitting them into the team to please the owners of their clubs.

25 Jun 2022 17:29:32
Bruno has revealed his targets and is not being backed.
Ultimately he will pay the price.
Am increasingly getting the feeling Ruben will be sold late in the window and it will be the same old same old
We thought we had our man but a the last minute talks broke down and he chose Barcelona over us
It’s a very familiar window, we have no targets even on the hook never mind close to the landing net.

25 Jun 2022 17:52:23
Has he, where has Bruno revealed his targets? how do you know he hasn't asked for MBappe, Modric, Kessie and Botman (unlikely as they're all spoken for I know but if they were Bruno's targets then blaming the board for not backing him would seem a little crazy). I'd suggest we wait and see what happens in the next few weeks cause all Bruno stated as a fact was he'd like any new players in for pre-season.

25 Jun 2022 22:01:17
Bruno must be fuming,no deals done yet,what on earth must be going thru his mind,will he ever get who he wants,or we getting second class
Players,🤔🤔

26 Jun 2022 07:45:10
Imo Bruno knew what his job would entail.The club employed him to do what they want.
My allegiance is to the club and Bruno has been given one of the best jobs in football in our country and he has to do what he was employed to do.

25 Jun 2022 11:27:57
Not a rumour . Why doesn't any of fosuns subsidiary businesses have any affiliations with wolves?, we have 0 sponsorship deals with any. I'm not talking overinflated deals like some clubs do with there owners other business. Just any sponsorship s the only link I can find is royal Caribbean and Thomas Cook . Shouldn't they leverage there group with advertising and sponsorship with there numerous businesses. Nearly all the owners in premier League do this we seem to be reluctant

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25 Jun 2022 12:33:54
Apart from Thomas Cook, Silver Cross, Royal Caribbean, you're right, we have no affiliation or sponsorship with any other Fosun owned brand.

25 Jun 2022 12:51:43
Exactly 3 minor sponsors out of 100+ businesses seems low to me surely they should be doing more .

25 Jun 2022 14:09:02
Do we know who all these other businesses/ brands are? Most of them seem to be a little secretive, also read Fosun employ 71,000 people…and we got Jeff, their employees would fill Molineux twice over and still have to have a waiting list.

25 Jun 2022 14:09:06
What are the rules around that type sponsorship?

25 Jun 2022 14:19:18
Overinflated sponsorship deals like some clubs rely on and apparently get away with won't happen at Wolves Tinkerman. Fosun won't pump money in for transfers at the moment legally, let alone concoct some dodgy process to circumvent FFP, as they have said they didn't like, but would respect the FFP rules.
The Covid lockdowns have hurt Fosun due to there exposure in China to certain markets, hence their bond sell off's. It could take a few years to recover from that.

25 Jun 2022 15:01:53
Why would they put a huge amount of their resource into a business that counts for less than 0.25% of their total assets? They are an investment company, and the current global economic conditions are tough. Clubs backed backed by oil producers are in a far better position currently.

25 Jun 2022 16:55:45
I wasn't saying pump over inflated amounts in . But many of there businesses do advertise . And the premier League shown in how many countries worldwide seems a good opportunity to do this . But they seem reluctant maybe

 


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