Wolves banter 2

05 Dec 2024 12:54:49
Gary O'Neil nominated for November Manager of the Month award

05 Dec 2024 13:33:49
Nice on Handsome but what is weird for a team in our situation Matheus Cunha occupies three slots in the MoTD goal of the month awards.

05 Dec 2024 12:49:02
If he hasn't been sacked by the end of today, he won't be sacked at all. Seems that Fosun are happy with 3 wins in 25 games.

05 Dec 2024 13:27:51
Fossum self sustain business model is killing us. Afraid we will end up with a new Lage/GON copy. But still hoping for a Christmas miracle.

05 Dec 2024 13:41:57
There are reports he's staying for West ham game -Sky sports.
Reports we've offered Potter the job but that he wants the west ham job if lopetegui goes. News now.
Nothing from the club.

05 Dec 2024 13:56:40
Potter must have turned us down, with no Plan B, so GON stays at least until after the West Ham game. Wasn’t keen on Moyes but after our defence imploding in the last two matches, I think his pragmatic approach might be what is needed.

Even in the few games we have competed in this season, it is impossible to see what it is we are trying to do. Everything looks very haphazard, with our press when applied being anything other than co-ordinated. Some players are really trying their best and putting in a shift, but they are doing so as individuals, not as a team. All eight goals conceded in the last two games were avoidable and were the result of individual and collective errors. Very lucky to escape with just the four against last night, less profligate forwards and a different referee could have seen Everton get double figures! It really was that bad!

05 Dec 2024 13:58:42
Then the fans need to make a noise, protest at matches, outside the stadium, refuse to buy merch and so on.
Only way Fosun will learn is if they're hit where it hurts in the pocket.

05 Dec 2024 14:41:27
Agreed Rated-time for apathy to be annexed

05 Dec 2024 14:42:08
Let’s face it I’m really wound up thought he would have gone today
Well get ready for the championship if we stick with Barry Gibbs aka mr O’Neil

05 Dec 2024 20:37:20
I think the problem is that GON is ultimately likeable, and no one really doubts that he is working hard and doing his best.even that's not good enough. It's difficult to get really angry with him when we all know in our hearts that the the real problem runs far deeper.

05 Dec 2024 10:01:58
10 in morning 05/12/2024 still no news been sacked

05 Dec 2024 10:32:10
No rumours floating around he's going to be either which is strange. You'd expect that if there's nothing by 11am he's taking training and isn't getting the boot.

Why on earth there were 2 keepers on the bench yesterday is anyone's guess. Really hoping I'm wrong and he's gone before the West Ham game.

05 Dec 2024 10:44:31
Don't see much point in just sacking GON, Shi and Hobbs should take a big share of the blame too, along with the whole of GONs back room staff. So badly run we are a laughing stock. How any manager would want the job is beyond me, he is on a hiding to nothing. He would virtually have to start from scratch.

05 Dec 2024 10:47:39
all normal for this uncaring no ambition owners

05 Dec 2024 11:15:43
And let's be clear about this, when we are in the Championship there will be no quick return such as Burnley and Sheff Utd. The club is so badly run from top to bottom that an upturn in form and fortune will be depressingly on hold

05 Dec 2024 11:37:05
Why 2 goalkeepers on the subs bench? Stupid and he doesn’t know what he is doing and get rid of that stupid laptop!

05 Dec 2024 12:11:09
Don’t get it O’Neil to be in charge for West Ham game what a joke

05 Dec 2024 12:19:11
Let's hope that it's down to not having someone who can start before Tuesday.

05 Dec 2024 12:23:22
I did hear a rumour yesterday that Graham Potter had been spoken to by club officials but he turned the possibility of managing the club down.

05 Dec 2024 13:28:01
Acle I doubt GON will be sacked today or any other day in the near future, otherwise he would be gone by now.

He has literally just been given a 4 year contract and we have not yet reached the January window when defensive re-enforcements could be sorted.

Maybe the club are searching for a replacement but can you think of any half decent football manager who would take this on given our backstory?

05 Dec 2024 13:41:34
It's not tactics that Gary is tapping out on that pad on the touchline or realtime analysis, it's candy crush'or very well might aswell be.

05 Dec 2024 14:42:55
Isn't it a sad state of affairs, our once proud and famous club turned down by the likes of Graham Potter?

05 Dec 2024 16:52:48
Longmynd you are correct. I expect if there is a change in management the board will do something even more stupid like trying to bring in a Michael Beale type young unproven manager, or bring in big Sam - neither of which is likely to work.

QS is also right, relegation provides no certainty on bouncing straight back up. Stoke City has a long stay in the top flight and regressed not too differently from how Wolves are. Their owners are amongst the richest in English football yet they haven't looked like coming back up since.

Hopefully it doesn't go that way, but it's what I fear could happen.

05 Dec 2024 09:48:02
Well that certainly stirred up a hornets nest, nice to hear from some of the long term and occasional posters on here. Pity it couldn't have been under happier circumstances. Quite a variety of views but the vast majority reaching the same conclusion. Some against GON's appointment from the outset some, after last season hoped he may grow in stature and become an inspired appointment and some hoping for the latter but knowing the club had sold him a pup and aren't really surprised at what's happening.

But he took the job and why wouldn't he it's another Premier League club on his CV. I've no doubt GON will become a good Manager one day but he will need to do more in the lower leagues or just have a better team to work with. I know we have some talented footballers but many are young having never set foot in this country before let alone played at this level. To give that group to a rookie coach with little managerial experience is in truth, unbelievable.

Supporting Wolves has always been a roller coaster but this feels more like Disney's runaway train which as many may know rises to dizzy heights only to be let go eventually ending up underground. Sadly, I think from a footballing perspective the owners have let go putting all their efforts into collecting the money from those being taken for a ride, literally.

So what's to do? The jury is no longer out on GON it's a majority verdict, but at the moment I don't think they will sack him. Partly because I believe they plan to see it through until January so they can hopefully re-enforce the defence then see what happens. I doubt they'll want to pay off yet another Coach/Manager, so soon after giving him a 4 year contract, so yes, penny shy £ foolish. It seems we have a lot of specialists in the club but experts in nothing as the decision making in recent years has lurched from raising peoples eyebrows to wtf.

Periodically, Fosun have rode in just in time a bit like the US cavalry to save the day but I doubt that will happen this time, they've probably sold the horses. Let's hope they prove me wrong.

05 Dec 2024 09:52:42
You can’t keep him in a job till January they having a laugh or what
There is a old saying you have to pay to get rid of rubbish

05 Dec 2024 10:22:35
I agree GON should go now!

05 Dec 2024 10:24:15
When Fosun have sold off the crown jewels of the squad we will have the following to put in a Championship challenge.

GK : Johnson/Bentley

Defenders : Lima/Mosquera/Meupiyou/Toti/Pond/Bueno/Buenos

Midfield : Doyle/Andre/Traore/Bellegarde/Cundle

Forwards : Forbes/Strand Larsen/Gomes/Gonzalez/Kalajdzic

Plus any purchases we may make!

05 Dec 2024 10:32:46
No point even keeping him for west ham, he's obviously not good enough
I'm afraid times up gary

05 Dec 2024 10:40:07
I repeat myself again, Fosun must make a statement of intent, be it keeping GON on for whatever reason, or dismissing him today. Until they tell us something conspiracies will abound.
Sort this mess out Jeff.

05 Dec 2024 10:49:06
you ask a lot abbeywolf of jeff slow boat to china shi lol

05 Dec 2024 11:35:10
Derry-No chance that Andre, Strand Larssen or Doyle will play in the Championship

05 Dec 2024 11:36:20
Good Post Derry.
If we do get relegated, I think as you have highlighted, there is the makings of a strong Championship side.
Fosun will be pleased, because big money will be made on sales and still leave a strong Championship squad, with plenty of wiggle-room for new players.
It just needs a solid management appointment to steer us back.
I would still hope (have done for the last 4 years), Fosun strengthen the senior Leadership team, it is our biggest weakness.

05 Dec 2024 11:54:51
Don't think that's a strong championship side, Rugeley. Hopefully we'll never find out.Amazingly 6/4 is the general price on relegation and there are 3 teams at shorter odds, Saints, Ipswich and Leicester. Hate to say it but I might have a punt.

05 Dec 2024 11:55:25
I don't think Hugo bueno will be with us Derry, he's going great gums at feyenoord and attracting big attention.

05 Dec 2024 12:04:03
Interesting post Derry, two things here firstly I don't think even half those players would opt to play in Champ. Secondly with the way Fosun do contracts I'd be absolutely amazed if most of our players don't have a low lever relegation release clause. If we get relegated we could be in serious trouble cause we don't just lose the Prem broadcast money but we could also see a fire sale of our best talent (Cunha, Gomes and Andre) for a fraction of their actual value! 😭

05 Dec 2024 09:12:57
Remember someone saying that at least we have our coaching situation sorted out for a few years? Or words to that effect?

05 Dec 2024 10:49:37
Was it Jeff Shi by any chance? Cause he gave Gary a 4 year contract!

05 Dec 2024 12:58:46
No, it was one of the posters here.
And I pointed out that just because he is under contract doesn't mean he will be here the length of the contract.

05 Dec 2024 14:17:58
Indeed Hansome, because that's the nature of footy. If he'd done well he would have left and if not dito, it's the nature of the beast in footy!

05 Dec 2024 08:05:53
its 8 Thursday morning 05/12/2024 how long before on sky news Gary O'Neil has been removed

05 Dec 2024 09:35:34
I do hope so but might have to wait

05 Dec 2024 09:55:23
I think GON wants to go he has no idea of managing Wolves, his team selection and tactics show that. The last two games shows he has lost the plot and why he keeps looking at that laptop defeats me because he doesn’t make anything better. We need someone in quick to organise the defence properly. He should have dropped Sa, Dawson and Lemina after their last disastrous performance.

05 Dec 2024 10:16:47
Still waiting?

05 Dec 2024 10:50:33
it must be down to compo 4 x years madness but drop down lose £120 million plus

05 Dec 2024 07:06:54
According to the E&S GON IS STILL BACKING HIMSELF AS THE RIGHT MAN TO LEAD WOLVES!
Does his I Pad show a completely different game than the rest of us. I guess he must come and make that kind of statement, but he and his team of staff are simply out of their depth. The whole team is completely disjointed. SA looks like a rabbit frozen in the glare of oncoming headlights. He is completely devoid of confidence and who can blame him with that defence. Who on earth coached or organised that wall for their first goal. In short totally pathetic and expecting GON to be fired today. I honestly believe we can't do any worse going into the WHU game manager less. Shi should have acted sooner as we're in deep trouble now.

05 Dec 2024 08:07:49
he needs to book into st gorges stafford

05 Dec 2024 08:17:39
Agree blackfords, no manager would be better than the tactics and selections GONs been overseeing.
At least it'd show some genuine movement towards moving things forward.

05 Dec 2024 08:20:39
That wall was nothing to do with coaching (unless you are talking about primary school level).Pure and total incompetence frm Sa.

05 Dec 2024 08:54:55
Absolute shambles last night and GON now has managed to put us in a real relegation position. The players looked confused, bereft of confidence and there was no semblance of them playing for the manager. Body language was dreadful. Change of manager is the priority now any delay will only cement our future in the Championship. If relegation becomes a reality it will herald a mass exodus of our better players so Cunha, RAN, Gomes, Semedo, Lemina, Sa etc will all be gone leaving us with a squad ill equipped with cope with the rigours of Championship football. Delay at your peril Fosun.

05 Dec 2024 09:04:33
Add Guedes and Sarabia to that list of exits.

05 Dec 2024 09:07:14
Sky's player ratings last night were cunha Andre and j gomez 6 everyone else 3 and 4. Dunno how they evaluated the ratings tho they also gave Hwang 6 and I only saw him touch the ball once, maybe twice. But yes old wulf Sa should've sorted that wall out but I think he tried judging from his words with lemina, who was on the end, after the goal.
The entire team seemed lost as to what/where they were suppose to be.
Disgraceful.

05 Dec 2024 09:41:49
Why leave the fastest player at the club benched when Everton have a 40 year old at the back?

No control in midfield, no system of play apart from roll it out and hope the defenders can bang it up the line.

Why sack the set piece coach? Who opted for zonal marking which they clearly struggled with from the start, yet no change of tactics.

Players look to have no belief and the high press, high tempo style of play promised in pre-season has disappeared.

Time for change

05 Dec 2024 09:53:20
Those rose tinted glasses obviously work during the matches and in the office. Then again with a contract worth a few £100, 000 in my back pocket I would back myself. Getting sacked with the money tied to leaving does not seem right, it would be nice to hear for the best interests of the club I resign.

05 Dec 2024 11:19:00
Sorry A449 but that is absolute nonsense! Why would or even should Gary walk away from a 4 year contract with nothing to show for it?! Would you?! Maybe instead of blaming him for not falling on his sword you should be questioning why the club doesn't seem in a rush to act?! Could it be because Jeff knows that VERY few managers would agree to work under conditions where by your best players are sold each season from underneath ya feet and you are then asked to polish the preverbial?!
The money tied with him leaving was a condition offered by the club, why now should Gary be responsible for that as well as taking all the blame?! C'mon let's get real here please! 🙄

05 Dec 2024 06:52:42
i can not see jeff shi matt hobbs going for Moyes

05 Dec 2024 07:36:03
Moyes or potter would do me anything better than this O’Neil crap we have to watch

05 Dec 2024 08:10:46
agree but don't trust jeff slow boat to china one inch I saw him at the Irish club cross st tried to back down on what he said to fans

05 Dec 2024 08:17:12
If O’Neil goes? Who would you like folkes

05 Dec 2024 08:54:04
Who we'd like is irrelevant, Kiddy. Given the likely constraints we should be asking would anyone who is actually any good be willing to come given the constraints, financial or otherwise, that they'll likely be working under? That probably rules out Potter and any 'sexy' options. I understand the muted clamour for Moyes but his Hammers weren't exactly solid at the back and we all know what needs working on the most!

05 Dec 2024 09:46:10
Moyes on a short term contract.

05 Dec 2024 10:38:40
Why would Moyes accept a short term contract from us?! He's just seen us give Gary a 4 year contract and is in a position where we need him FAR more than he needs us!

05 Dec 2024 10:51:30
can only see Moyes

05 Dec 2024 06:38:05
I said in October after the Brentford game that O'Neil and his trumpton coaching team were clueless, unable to deal with set pieces, failing to pick up runners, unable to close down the opposition, poor at defending crosses! But apparently by some on here I was being hard on O'Neil and he just needed time! Let's hope that time has run out!

He looked quite panicked when looking at his little ipad last night! I can only think it was the lack of appointment's with his cosmetic dentists or he was unable to get a suitable tee time to play golf, because it certainly was nothing to do with tactics and how to set up a team!

05 Dec 2024 08:12:12
did not like him from day one cheap option by jeff shi matt hobbs after Coventry should have gone

05 Dec 2024 10:23:32
Really don't understand why people are fixated on him using a tablet?! Would it be OK if it was a clip board then?! Cause I hate to break it to you guys but an tablet is just a modern day clip board!
It's hilarious cause it just shows how some people will jump ON ANY excuse to have a go at the guy! You do realise that when you are making this post you are using some form of computer right?! Does that make you incompetent at your job does it?! What a load of luddite nonsense!
It's fine to moan about his job performance but this c

05 Dec 2024 10:25:36
Whoops sorry sent early!
'This consistent focus on him using a tablet is frankly childish and to be honest somewhat bizarre (not just aimed at you OOTD)! Just to clarify here it's 2024 guys and a clip board does not maketh the coach! 🙄

05 Dec 2024 11:22:08
Because he's watching replays of the live action Billy's and that makes him reactive not proactive! He should be watching the live performance (sadly like we have to!) set pieces (all goals from Everton!) should have been drilled in training!

05 Dec 2024 12:17:17
How do you know what he's looking at, are you sat behind him? He's almost certainly looking at tactic boards and live data analysis, because that's how the modern game works! Loads of people use tablets in modern footy because it's 2024! Using a tablet (much like the guys teeth BTW) have little to no impact on how he does his job! You should tell him to drill set pieces, we have one of the worst records in the league for um and I'm sure it's never dawned on him for the squad to train at them?! 🙄

05 Dec 2024 05:01:48
Right then Fosun, we are waiting.

05 Dec 2024 07:04:16
Abbey.Mr Guangchang needs to act NOW. Change needed immediately in the Leadership of the Club.

05 Dec 2024 07:23:40
Well wonder what’s going to happen today or have we got to put up with this oh well I no the mrs wants some decorating done I’ll watch paint dry instead

05 Dec 2024 08:13:19
i have had a brilliant week wolves like they are wife has left me

05 Dec 2024 08:14:34
If they don't listen to the fans after last night it shows they just take us for granted.
70 years on from honved game that put wolves and European football on the map, encouraged supporters like me to follow and love the old gold
and were expected to buy the limited edition shirt whilst our club become a laughing stock.