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30 Jul 2021 20:12:28
Just looking at the pre season friendliest and comparing Wolves with other Premier League teams we look like amateurs compared with them.
Spurs look good under Nuno as an example.
We look like we are running around like headless chickens concerned with speed of reaction and pressing .
The young Colombian looks a good player and Trincoa looks good.
It will be interesting to see the next few matches before our trip to The East Midlands .

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31 Jul 2021 08:27:30
New manager and staff. New keeper New defender, old defender injured, striker returning from serious injury, cluster of youngsters joining 1st team squad half of which only rejoined us in sweltering Spain. It was team experiment and New ideas. So it's abit harsh to say amateurish in comparison. Light weight yes. Today we may have a more truthful depiction. It's no secret there are transfers in the air, and indeed it looks a lack of commitment from fosun. We're in limbo at the moment and need a sense of direction. I've never thought we'd have a good start to the season, I personally can't see us getting points in the first 4 weeks, but I believe and I truly think it come good and well surprise some. i'd rather hold that belief that join the doom mongers who write us off before we even know what the squad will look like. Let's see how we fare at Stoke, where vile went down 2 nothing, I'd like to see a full game performance today.

31 Jul 2021 10:55:24
Fully agree Abbey looks like we are already down what's the point then doom and gloom fans makes me laugh
ffs be positive NO! we're not going to win the league but we are not going down either we have a new manager who will play a different system we will lose players we will sign new it's all about gelling as a team we've been out in Spain a bit different to English heat and not used to it we may start slow but I'm sure we will click and be a force again be excited we will have Raùl back that's massive on it's own NETO will be back later in the season massive
And if neves stays I can see us around the top eight at least come end of season give Bruno a chance to show his ability you may be surprised come on you wolves🧡🖤🐺.

31 Jul 2021 12:26:13
Well maybe there's something in today's line up at Stoke, neves moutininho traore all start.

Review Of The Day 29th July 2021

30 Jul 2021 07:39:05
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31 Jul 2021 00:20:15
Wolves fan for 55 years and last 3 of those have been ok. relegation struggle this season unless we do summat really soon.

29 Jul 2021 21:20:07
Rumours flying around on twitter and few reports we are rivaling Everton for Joaquin Correa.

For me he would be perfect second striker behind Raul. Brilliant player coming off a great season.
The Joao Felix role makes a lot of sense for Lageball

Adama to Liverpool will more than likely involve them trying to chuck players into the deal. I don't want to loose him at all. Like the look of Harvey Elliot though.

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30 Jul 2021 00:05:21
Personally I'd rather we kept Traore. I just think Lage will give him a bit more freedom and he'll show us what he can do. I think he was restricted by the tactics last season after Raul got injured.

The Correa rumour has been flying around since last week and doesn't seem to be moving forward. That may due to the player still being on holiday after the Copa America.

30 Jul 2021 11:18:53
We had two great seasons and one pretty average all be it in strange circumstances, lost one of our star players to the League Champions no less then managed to gift our Head Coach to a top six Club. As yet we haven’t strengthened from last season when only seven teams finished below us, this season is a new start and will be all about survival, the team needs two or three players with Premier League experience before the season starts and that’s if we don’t sell any more, we can’t rely on a few more youngsters coming in from abroad who may or may not be up to the task. The Premier League doesn’t stand still, it doesn’t allow Clubs to “do it on the cheap”, it doesn’t give you time to bring players in “for the future” without having some for the “here and now”, this seasons going rate for average Premiership players is between forty and fifty million, if you don’t compete, if it’s too rich for you, then you become a West Brom, a Blues or a Stoke, they all thought they could keep “getting away with it”.

30 Jul 2021 11:48:48
Agree wholeheartedly oxley, I'm hoping that once neves traore moutininho etc are resolved we'll be bringing in experience. I'm not expecting a winning start from us, but I'm hoping it'll come together and with it a top 10 finish.

30 Jul 2021 12:14:00
I hope you're wrong Ron but I fear you may well be right. We seem to be selling the spine of our team, if rumours are to be believed, and with the exception of Patricio, all to our rivals. Doherty to Spurs, Jota to Liverpool and now rumours of Neves to Man U, plus of course the most recent one, Traore to Liverpool.

The concern is, if this all happens, who replaces them and more importantly will they be better players with Premiership experience, the latter being the more doubtful.

30 Jul 2021 12:58:10
Why are you focusing on what might be. Neves and Traore are still Wolves players last time I checked.

OK, Patricio has been sold but he's been replaced with a younger keeper with experience. Has anyone else been sold yet? But conveniently the signings of Mosquera and Trincao have slipped your mind.

If other clubs were signing players then yes, I would question what the club were doing but the fact is not many clubs are doing so.

30 Jul 2021 13:10:15
I tend to agree with the later posts and am trying to console myself with the fact that hopefully Raul and Jonny Castro Otto will be upgrades on last season when back. Hopefully we won't lose anyone else. However the reality seems to be that maybe (for whatever reason) we aren't able to sign experienced players in the mould of Rui Patricio and Joao Moutinho on a regular basis and at an affordable price.

30 Jul 2021 14:14:43
I find it hard to believe Otto will come back the same player if at all.
We are all banking on Raul being as good as before he got injured.
What if he's not?
Where will the goals come from then?
If cutrone and mir are being sold we need two strikers to replace them with proven experience.
I don't think we can wing it this season.

30 Jul 2021 14:54:15
Bigcheese, yes like I said hopefully Raul and Jonny Castro Otto will be upgrades on last season.

29 Jul 2021 20:47:47
Phil. On the off chance that you may still be reading stuff on this page I hope thing s will get better for you and yours quickly and you will feel able to join a lot of us on here who care about you and wish you well.

future. I notice that you haven't posted for a while now and you were isolating so I very much hope that you and yours are well and not struggling with the horrible C.V.!

For Wolves three weeks to go until we meet Leicester, the noise from Jeff is deafening in it's intensity! Loads of PR and speculation but very little in the way of increasing our squad. Time to get on with it I suggest!

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30 Jul 2021 11:41:14
Ken - v v kind of you to ask. We are all clear of the C.V. and I have even been working - twice this week which I am loving. I take people on walks. Its going really well. Yesterday, my client, a mum with 4 teenage boys bought the drinks at our coffe break and then handed me a wadge of cash (it was embarrassing to count it so didn't) it was obviously more than was agreed and it turned out to be considerably more than double so v v happy! .
I have quite a few walks booked over next couple of months including some corporate bookings where I can charge a lot more. All come via word of mouth and repeat bookers - people come once and then come back with other groups or colleagues or clients - many of the walks are team building exercises/ marketing events that end at the pub!
Stopped posting (and even reading as often) when I saw Phil's note. Realised that although I liked some of the posts - yours always and there was for example also an excellent one a few days ago by Abbey wolf on the need to build our commercial actiivities - I find most of them v depressing and they just make me angry so not good for my mental health.
The thread on Neves - where many of our fans stated that they thought he was rubbish (as of course was Nuno) - added to the posts over the last few months where amongst others Doherty, Saiss, Boly, Podence and of course most regularly Traore were also decribed as rubbish and should be sold for pennies so that we can reinvest pounds in a kid from somewhere exotic who they had probably only heard about before on some computer game did it for me.
I know its all about opinions but I really care if Wolves do well or not and it seems to me that places me at odds with many of our posters.
That or their opinions are wildly different to mine - guess it is the later as many are seemingly blindly loyal to Jeff Shi (NOT WOLVES! ) .
Actually I suppose it is obviously the latter. For example I said last August when it becmae crystal clear, to those able to see, that we had a bad transfer window and Moutinho's legs had gone but virtually everyone else thought we had had an amazing window - many seemingly incredibly still think that we did.
Unless things change dramtically this will be the 4th window where we have had a v modest net spend and consequently the squad is now far far weaker than it was, whilst other teams march forwards and beyond us!
I read regularly that people thought [given injuries and C.V. (? ) ] we were ok last year as we came 13th - but obviously, despite it being regulalrly explained to them, they still don't understand that for a long period of time we were clearly the worst team in the league (5 points from a run of games of over 25% of the entire season! ) and survival was due to a great (pre Jimenez injury) start, Nuno's loyalty ( how he didn't walk when Jeff publicly humilitated him last Jan is a real credit to the man) and Traore's brilliance - yes the same man that although he virtually single handedly saved our Prem place over the last couple of months of the season and is seemingly wanted by most of the major super powers in Europe is rubbish and should be sold for pennies?
I will post again once the season starts but unless we as you say "get on with it" I fear that although the squad (even the pale shadow that it once - just 18 months ago - was) should be far far too good to go down your other comment about it being self inflicted still frightens me and the fact that only you and I and to be fair a few others see that or are willing to acknowledge it frightens and depresses me even more.

30 Jul 2021 12:26:49
future. Since when do you have to apologise for telling the truth! Agree with you as would probably expect. Very happy that you are ok and your venture is going well, nice to hear positive news! I stop reading if stuff is negative on here now. Having been a fan for many years and having heard it all before I would just like a bit of old fashioned honesty from Mr. Shi. Tell the truth as we actively looking for players to both improve the team and squad if not say so. Silence on the subject doesn't usually prove to be positive. I was talking to a guy I haven't seen since the start of the C.V. who said he's going to try and get us some tickets for the Leicester game. What a wonderful gesture he's about the age of my eldest son and I only know him as he sells the tickets at the station and knows I'm a Wolves fan he is obviously a Leicester fan. What a nice thought as he knows it would be difficult for me anyway but with his help I could do it. Human nature, all is not lost!

30 Jul 2021 15:57:55
Tfig glad to hear you're all well after your cv problems. It does get depressing and infuriating at times I agree. If we all saw Eye to eye and had the same levels of experiences we wouldn't be on the site. I regard myself as a passionate ardent wolves fan, other younger wolves 'fans ' I know who've followed us and travelled in Europe don't even bother to watch pre season friendlies, they only sing when we're winning and may find other things to do if we start falling off. But that's always been the case with youngsters. We as the elder fans care more about the club and set ups I think, we've been through the highs of 50s/ 60. The almosts and the lows and highs of league Cup success and the very lows. We saw what Sir Jack gave us and the mismanagement but financial security to make fosun see us as a financial prospect. Now we find ourselves in transient times but without a positive lead from our owners. As someone else posted the silence from Jeff shi is deafening. Is it because they have a big surprise for us? Is it because they don't know where they're going? The ground extension can be explained with costs cv etc, but we need to know the commitment to the main aspect of the club to which we subscribe, the team and aspirations.
We watch for the enjoyment of the game and victory. Some see the running of neto the passing of neves, they're thrilled with the running of traore. But one small slip and they're useless. The GK gets slated for letting one in at the near post but not applauded for the blocked shot with his leg. Its subjective to the viewer, subjective to the occasion. As such please don't despair with this site. Losing phil was a sadness for he no matter what was wolves through and through and his, yours and everyone's else's posts unite us as fans, educate amuse and rile us. Stick with the pack tfig. This season to be will be memorable (for what ever reason) and opinions, yours are very much valued, will help make it so. Onwards and upwards. COYW.

30 Jul 2021 19:04:01
Abbey. Good post I enjoyed the read, not many that enjoy reading these days, even less that I want to respond to. I particularly like the one mistake and they are useless, quite agree. I have no idea what some people want tbh. We have international players who become hopeless with minor errors. I wonder how these people deal with everyday occurrences? How if they have children do they cope with a parent who is so perfect that minor mistakes must be met with the wrath of god! Anyway on the main subject of soccer. After 54 years as a fan of Wolves (before that I lived in other parts of the country and supported the local team, normal then) I think I've seen enough ups and downs to know which I prefer! Now I just feel endless frustration because it is still so close to being very very good that the thought of it being ruined by recent inept decisions or lack of them simply does my head in. End of sermon, sorry if I've gone on a bit!

30 Jul 2021 20:10:32
I think we're all getting abit frustrated by the silence and not knowing what to expect in the next 2 weeks and indeed the season ahead. Whoever stays, whoever arrives we need to find that confidence and family pack togetherness. Bruno maybe technically minded but bonding maybe outside of him. It's at the mo.

29 Jul 2021 18:41:29
Jas : why you think fans who are more than a little concerned are negative? There are images and artists impressions of all the new Molineux’s that never came to fruition, we’ve had shots at the Prem a couple of times and failed, this time was supposed to be different but it isn’t, three weeks to the season and the team is not as good as three years ago when they were promoted, not being negative but some of us have seen it all before, more times than we care to remember .

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29 Jul 2021 19:43:36
Disagree with you Ron regarding this time is supposed to be different, our shots at the prem in the past ain’t even close to this time, in the past we were happy to just finish 4th or 5 th from the bottom, maybe beat a top team every now and again and maybe have a nice cup run, this time we have beaten top six often even did the double over the champions one season, we finished 7th 7th and the 13th which in the past would have been a major success but now it’s a failure, we have played in Europe, lost in the quarter against the eventual winners and admittedly they were better than us on the day but we did miss a pen at 0-0 when we all know how good we were at that time at winning when ahead, we lost a semi FA cup to Watford and no one can deny we should have won that as being 2-0 up but for some reason we imploded when we were almost semi the final, we buy players from Barcelona, Porto, Milan, Benfica, sporting etc etc etc not lower league English teams anymore? No mate sorry this time ain’t nothing like before to be fair.

29 Jul 2021 19:44:25
The ground development is happening. It has just been put on the back burner due to more important things happening such as the C.V.

The money used to expand the stadium will not be part of the FFP regulations however Fosuns priorities simply lay elsewhere.

Sir Jack created a 29500 stadium and it was never filled. Steve Morgan expanded it and again, it never got filled. It is only since Fosun took over that we have had sustained success but rather than build a stadium rather than the squad, Fosun are looking to ensure that the foundations are in place.

30 Jul 2021 11:05:12
Oxley Ron is bang on in his analysis-I have been beating the same drum on this site for quite a while. It's the same old Wolves no matter who is running the club. We will do well to stave off relegation this season.

30 Jul 2021 12:12:19
"Same old Wolves, no matter who is running the club" SQ? You have to be joking! Fosun bought the club five years ago and we haven't looked back since. Well some of you have, or haven't noticed the progress under Fosun. These days we are buying or bidding for players from Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus etc. This is a long way from taking Leon Clarke on loan. We are a serious and established PL club with a growing international reputation. We're not the likes of Burnley, Brighton or Crystal Palace, but no offence to those teams. We have genuine and realistic aspirations to top six and Europe.

30 Jul 2021 12:38:38
It takes time and patience to really establish a club in the Premier League and this is nothing like the MM or JH eras. For starters it's the clubs longest successive run of seasons in the PL. Lots of clubs with less quality available than us still haven't moved much in the transfer market yet, and it's a transfer window like no other after the last season.

Building materials costs have increased significantly, and new stands require a lot of material and labour. Peoples priorities in general are not as they were 18 months ago, so I'd expect Fosun are changing their priorities on how best to grow the club financially. The ground expansion may not be as viable right now, but may be of more benefit in a couple of years from a cost to reward perspective. They are successful business owners and will have looked at the long term costs, forecasts and revenues and will act accordingly.

I'm not expecting a top 6 challenge this season, or a relegation battle. I'd expect mid table obscurity but hopefully some more entertaining performances.

29 Jul 2021 13:40:17
It's all very quiet?

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29 Jul 2021 14:49:35
In 1958 plans were unveiled to make Molineux into a 70,000 stadium but were rejected by the council.
In 2021 our owners are promoting our brand all over the world to attract new supporters.
Where are these new supporters going to sit?

29 Jul 2021 15:42:20
Probably in the Negative section of Molineux, next to you.

29 Jul 2021 15:48:58
Ooooh you are awful Jas.
But I like you!

29 Jul 2021 16:10:52
I'm only 75 odd miles away and I havnt been to molineux since being back in the prem. I'm a club member and watched every game over the lockdown period by buying subscriptions to all providers. I've contributed to feed the pack and foundation. I've bought programmes and shirts and numerous gifts. This is money directly and indirectly to the club. I'm sure a world wide market would operate on a similar basis. Times have changed since 1958, we've got multiple TV channels, social media, all day pub opening and different work patterns. In 58 70000 would realistically of been packed by pay at the turnstile fans with no other distractions on a Saturday afternoon mostly travelling by bus or on foot. 50000 today would be incredible on a TV live, Monday night game, and reliant on opposition and division. Maybe the money isn't so much in the crowd size now but the merchandise bought around the world and nation. I sit here wondering when I'll next be at the mol, and glance at my reopening honved programme from 1993 thinking then that it couldn't get better. That's life, but as soon as the away shirt becomes available my money will be in the clubs till. (As long as it bears no likeness to that blue cliudy monstrosity last year! ) .

29 Jul 2021 17:38:54
Hopefully I'll be at the celta Vigo match tho ( health permitting )

{Ed077's Note - Any health issues as such Abbey?}

29 Jul 2021 17:49:26
My new home top arrived today. better colour and material but a tighter fit than Adidas one.

29 Jul 2021 18:00:15
And it's shorter.

29 Jul 2021 18:36:40
I've got dodgy back Ed. And osteoarthritis in knees, just had an xray this week and am awaiting results. Can walk that far and don't drive so its accessing trains and getting to and from both ends. Some days good some times bad. Sitting for a half can be painful so I'll have to weigh everything up.

{Ed077's Note - I hope you start feeling better soon.
Excited for the season ahead??}

29 Jul 2021 19:26:18
Cheers Ed. It's nothing compared to others, just a chore to deal with. Yes I am excited about things although I'm abit impatient with the movements/ rumours at the mo. I think one big outgoing will spark things, I hope so because seeing/ hearing brunos ideas, speeding things up, fluidity in formation etc really makes me think we can surprise one or two. I think we're a little light experience wise, (boly moutininho seiss maybe a bit slow for what he wants) so decent recruits if we can afford them essential. It'll be a slow start and then we'll competing the top 6-7 again. I hope.! .

{Ed077's Note - I like your optimism. Long may it continue}

30 Jul 2021 10:13:52
It always does Ed. After 60 odd years following the old gold I've had to, season after season. A win over anyone is celebrated, my most notable league victory was the 5-1 over then champions Arsenal at home back in the 70s, that was optimism paying off.

{Ed077's Note - I hope you beat Arsenal 5-1 every season lol :-D}

Review Of The Day 29th July 2021

29 Jul 2021 07:39:07
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28 Jul 2021 13:53:43
Fosun have just announced an investment in the American e-sports team, Evil Geniuses. This values the e-sports team at $255mil. Wolves's logo will be used in Evil Geniuses' branding, etc. This must be further evidence that Fosun are thinking long-term for Wolves.

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28 Jul 2021 15:28:55
Hope they are going to invest in a goalscorer for Wolves as Fabio isn’t going to score many this season, Jimenez can’t be expected to be back to his best for a while and Patrick doesn’t know if he’s coming or going.
Another centre back would also be useful and maybe full backs who can defend if we are going to play 442.

28 Jul 2021 15:45:22
Agreed Wombourn.

28 Jul 2021 17:45:56
Investing in e - sports won’t help to get more fans into Molineux or enable our U23 players of the future to play home games in Wolverhampton.

28 Jul 2021 18:54:36
I think you guys are missing the point about the Evil Geniuses investment. Ultimately such investments will increase income for Fosun/ Wolves and enhance the Wolves 'brand'.

28 Jul 2021 20:37:01
Esports offers great exposure for Fosun and Wolves it isn't a £600billion industry for no reason.

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