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30 Dec 2025 07:39:07
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29 Dec 2025 20:51:47
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29 Dec 2025 17:12:35
Rumours going around RE to be sacked loads of rubbish imo. See who Wolves sell in Jan then let RE get his own men in. let's see if any improvement with new signings and outgoings then make a decision.

For people on here saying sack him sorry would Ferguson or Pep or Wenger make a difference no. Simple as Fuson and Shi have screwed Wolves for years now they realise it will cost them more money with relegation.

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29 Dec 2025 18:11:10
The 3 names mentioned as replacements are:

Derek Mcinnes - Hearts
Brian Barry Murphy - Cardiff
Gary O'Neil - Unattached

As much as I think Rob Edwards isn't good enough, I'd stick with him rather than go for any of the names mentioned.

Also, if this is the quality of names being looked at by Matt Jackson and Nathan Shi, we are well and truly doomed.

29 Dec 2025 18:39:48
If you take Rob’s results in isolation, I think it is 7 defeats on the bounce, or is it 8 now, can’t remember. This would normally result in a PL manager being replaced, if it stretches to 10, if there is someone available, and it big if, then I think we should depending on the correct person.
As others have mentioned nobody out there is going to come, shame but reality.

With the transfer window fast approaching I can understand why a normal club would consider their options. Problem has been we have been far from normal for sometime now.

What we do need, in my opinion, when we do get relegated we have to go down with some wins to carry through on to next season, this is essential otherwise we start next season with the hangover of this one.

29 Dec 2025 18:49:01
I can't see RE being sacked, our season can't be saved and preparing for the championship will have to be a priority.
January will see the dead wood going, but who would want to join us now unless they were dedicated to next season?
RE is in a no win situation at the moment when really he is fulfilling the fixture list as best he can with what he's got.


Recruitment and prep in the summer will be his real tests.

29 Dec 2025 18:49:01
Got to give RE a chance. Give him 2 transfer windows to assemble his own playing staff. I think relegation would be a blessing as it would flush out Fosuns real ambitions. I’m a wolves fan of 60 years. Tired of this 5 year nosedive.

29 Dec 2025 19:01:56
DMac - good post.
So much going on and so confusing and depressing.
Where do Wolves go and what should they do?
Re players, posters are correct that selling now will get better prices than this summer however I suspect that most of us will be suppressed and disappointed at just how little that is even now!
Indeed to be honest it is possible that Wolves will even struggle to sell some of this squad, (other than at not insignificant losses), and possibly, given the inappropriate contracts these modest players have been awarded, might even have to pay some of them to go!
Also if you take out Gomes and Andre - plus perhaps Krejci, (if he actually signs), and maybe Emmanuel, and Tolu - this side will not only fail to pick up another point this season but may well drop straight through the Championship.
So the question is if they sell now who should they attempt to sign and who might be willing to come?
I am sceptical that in January Wolves will be able to attract players who will be of the calibre required to alter the doomsday scenario i.e. good enough to survive in the Championship?
Similarly with managers if you sack Edwards who would take the job and would it make any difference?
But for me the biggest question is an odd one you might think - what are the relegation clauses in the "bank loan"?
If, as would seem likely, the bank is entitled, upon Wolves' relegation, to take its repayment from the "charged" parachute payment then either the loan has to be repaid by Fosun - do you see that - or from one of: the player sales or the parachute payment.


In either of those last two cases it is hard to see how the club can meet its ongoing obligations - for example the club, according to the latest accounts, owes other clubs some £70m net for transfers already made.
Jeff said he had a plan but if it is so easy to cut £150m+ from the cost base why hasn't he been able to enact a mere 50% of that so that Wolves were in line with say Brentford and wouldn't have needed to sell a top half of the Prem team over the last few years?
(For example Neto, Cunha, Jimenez, Jota, Neves, MGW, Nunes Kilman, Collins, RAN - ok no gks!)

29 Dec 2025 19:32:51
surprised

29 Dec 2025 20:31:55
Future, I don't know how the transfer market works but if Wolves owe £70m for players they have bought, don't Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City owe us money for Neto, Cunha and Ait Nouri or did they pay all of the money in one lump sum?

29 Dec 2025 20:55:22
Next three games, if it goes that long will determine if they sack RE.
Hes certainly been a mistake.
Be it on his part or wolves,
It certainly will be time to stick or twist
But there's no smoke without fire
Nothing would surprise me this season

29 Dec 2025 22:10:52
Goodwhileitlasted - you are of course correct.
However sadly the £70m is a net number
Wolves, according to the latest accounts were owed circa £65m by clubs for the players Wolves have sold but unfortunately they owed £135m to other clubs for players bought.

30 Dec 2025 05:51:34
Gotta be fair to RE, he inherited VPs squad and their attitude, not to mention the confidence (or lack of).
Their allegiance to us and the cause can also be questioned.
Expecting RE to have the magic personality to win the squad over and get them playing in ways they're not accustomed maybe expecting too much.

Tactically of course he can be questioned, team selection queried, but he's caught between the proverbial to some extent so far.
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Our season is in all honesty over, and it's really a case of fullfuilling the fixtures as best we can, all RE can do is wait for it to be over, so the dismantling and then rebuilding can begin.

The remaining games should be one of introductions and testers, obviously keeping scorlines to a minimum and also finding players who are enthusiastic in their performance for the old gold shirt.

RE can surely only be assessed after a period of his selection of his required players performing his desired tactics.

To remove him now would be a continued knee jerk to the damage Fosun and VP have done and excusing them from the predicament.

30 Dec 2025 15:26:39
Wasn't Rob Edwards hired to coach them in the Championship?

30 Dec 2025 17:12:09
I think in all honesty we have to write this season off; we're not escaping with only 2 points at this stage in the competition.
With that in mind, we need to stick with RE, he was doing ok at Middlesbrough and has inherited this team.


Let's have a period of stability with a manager who is pro Wolves and not here just for the money, but as someone who genuinely wants what we want.
Talk of him being sacked needs to be shelved in my opinion.

29 Dec 2025 15:15:04
Seeing as all our midfielders are either injured, suspended or crap! Why can't we get Tommy back? While we're about it, also, Raul, Cunha, RAN, Sarabia, Podence, COADY, Saiss, Neves, Nunes, Moutinho, Neto, Kilman, MGW., Vitinha, Leminha, Marcel, Doncker, Fabio, Semedo and Boly! Just saying! FWAW .

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29 Dec 2025 18:58:31
Anyone fancy a pint on Ronaldo?

29 Dec 2025 19:41:28
Yes .

29 Dec 2025 21:27:43
Pint or punt, if he's paying we'll all drown our sorrows!

29 Dec 2025 10:14:10
Reaction out there to another defeat seems to be mixed. Some backing Rob to turn things around with new signings, others wanting him gone now with someone else in to oversee new signings.
I would like to think that transfer activity is well underway, however with our management team who knows.
What is everyone’s opinion, do we give Rob time and if so how long?

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29 Dec 2025 10:45:31
It’s a bad look to sack someone after a three year contract (not that I care how it looks for fosun) and on a human level he’s left a club vying for promotion to come to his boyhood club, so would be a little harsh for him. However it’s not working out (with a highly incompetent squad) in the prem, therefore there will be a sour taste for the championship, possibly making it harder to get promoted with rob Edwards as the squad will be lacking in confidence.

I would like to see him try and I think fosun should give him the rest of the season, and give him full control ( with a budget ) over January spending, to see if he can build a squad he believes can get us back up.

29 Dec 2025 11:33:09
Personally Banksy I don't think that he is good enough too defensive with the interim games plus this season he has not taken a single point do you think that is good enough because I don't we need someone with a bit more guile and attacking ability not someone who takes off a defensive player and replaces him with another one I know I'm going to hear who's he got but how do we know how good enough the young players are unless they are given a chance

29 Dec 2025 11:38:27
I know things are tough but like many I’m not convinced Rob Edwards will make a good Wolves manager but I feel he needs time hopefully to prove me wrong. If we are still winless by the end of Feb we will have to start looking elsewhere.

The games against West Ham, Everton, Bournemouth and Forest are the win targets if we draw a blank in these games then I can’t see how he can survive.

29 Dec 2025 12:45:01
I don't really see the point, by the time someone new is appointed, there will be no time left and no window left to sign anyone new. I think RE is here until October at the earliest.

29 Dec 2025 15:17:32
There’s no one else out there who would be interested in taking on the poisoned chalice.
Give him time.

29 Dec 2025 15:56:06
The issue is that Edwards is simply not good enough to turn this mess around. He has clearly been brought in to oversee a promotion challenge next season and if he could get a tune out of the squad this season, then that would be seen as a bonus.

The major flaw is that as we are losing every single game, every last drop of confidence has left the squad and outsiders looking in will simply not want to join this sinking ship in January.

So the big question is do we let this squad continue to lose every game knowing that their valuations will go down?

Identify the players who will leave when we are relegated and try to move them on in January in the hope we can bring in players who are prepared to fight for promotion next season?

Rob Edwards is on a hiding to nothing. He ain't keeping us up but he may be good enough to take us up but between now and then, the fans will be baying for blood due to the turgid performances.

28 Dec 2025 22:43:50
Would it be better for us to send out the players that want away on loan instead of selling them cheap? It might increase their value and would give certain players a chance to improve so they get in their respective international teams. Then we could potentially bring them back next season or loan them out for another season till we are back in the prem, risky and optimistic I know but worth a thought maybe? Seems a bit crazy just to get rid as some of them are good players with high potential but currently on a bad run of form.

Any thoughts on this suggestion?

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29 Dec 2025 09:24:57
The problem you have goat is they do not want to be here full stop, regardless of what division we are in, Larsen, j Gomes, Andre, arias, Lopez and Sa all want out. Personally I would get what we can for them in January and get players in who A- want to be here and B- will do a job in the championship next season.

There is no guarantee we will come straight back up either, in fact it’s a lot more likely we won’t

29 Dec 2025 11:29:21
Have these players said they don’t want to be here? I haven’t seen anything about that, seems strange that Larsen signed a new contract but doesn't want to be here and same with the new signings, why did they sign if they don’t want to be here? Or is this just speculation?

29 Dec 2025 12:26:39
Job security and guaranteed wages Goatmark?.
Seriously I can't see them dedicated to us and wanting to play championship football, so let them go for the appropriate fee.

29 Dec 2025 12:27:49
I used to work at the club goat, a few years ago now but still have friends that work there and I can say 100 percent that I know at least 3 players have told the club they want out in January, who they are I don’t know that, but I would say it’s three of the people I said above but can see all of them going.

It’s obvious certain players do not want to be here you don’t have to have “insider” knowledge to see that.
Just look at the body language of Larsen, arias for example, they may as well be running around with for sale signs on their shirts

29 Dec 2025 15:23:38
In that case let’s hang on to them but loan them out to teams other than those in the Prem. Great idea Goatmark1.
If they can’t be ar**d why should Wolves?

29 Dec 2025 19:45:11
Fair enough Dwwg, I can see it being the two Brazilians as they prob want to be playing for their country, I’d hope the new signings would give it more time but equally they might see staying as too damaging. Going to be an interesting transfer window.

28 Dec 2025 15:50:59
Still me but the 4th incarnation for some reason?
Just noticed that Calvert Lewin has scored again.
In the summer I suggested him as a v v cheap option - free transfer and similar wages to JSL or roughly half the cost of Tolu wages and amortised fee- but sadly the club didn't agree.


Reading back the thread however it appears that even on here "Madman" to be fair to him agreed.
Given he is homegrown and was (and seemingly remains) a solid top half Prem player that seems like a pretty poor decision and Wolves loss has been Leeds gain!

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28 Dec 2025 16:00:00
For some reason VP and co just didn’t entertain home grown players, Harry Wilson apparently another player touted but ignored in favour of players from abroad who just have not cut it in the premier, we are now paying the price.

28 Dec 2025 16:09:40
Tfig to be honedt Wolves could have any striker but with out the service there useless. That is the problem at Wolves no creative players Wolves have 2 strikers in Larsenand Tolu. But if they don't get the service what is the point of being on the pitch.

I've called Larsen more than enough but to be honest he's chasing shadows for most of the match. Only now since Mane and Tolu have stsrted have Wolves looked like a threatwhen Larsen came on he looked a lot better than he has been.

28 Dec 2025 18:38:05
A slightly different post, wouldn’t it be interesting to see an expose on the going ons in the last five years especially from the ex managers

28 Dec 2025 20:35:20
Ex-managers sign NDAs (non-disclosure agreements). In effect, they're paid to shut their gobs. It's only money that talks!

28 Dec 2025 15:31:01
Does anyone know how Lima is getting on out on loan, likewise Traore?

I agree with others on priorities, new GK, 2 new midfielders and a striker.
Would like some pace and a creative player who can pass, Neves not likely but a similar player who can take free kicks, corners and play forward passes.

Guess a lot depends on who leaves and which positions, seems likely that this will be left to Rob, hope he does better than VP and Co in the summer.
Still have reservations and concerns if we continue to lose, not sure how long they will keep Rob in this situation. In a few more games, think we have Man Utd, West Ham and Everton lose these 3 that will be 10 in a row, can they really keep Rob if this happens?

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28 Dec 2025 16:27:28
Lima has 9 appearances for Porto B in the Portuguese 2nd division while Traore has played 13 games and scored once (no assists) for Metz who sit bottom of League 1 in France. Don't think either are pulling up any trees.

28 Dec 2025 17:40:09
Cheers Old Wulf not the best then, unfortunately

28 Dec 2025 13:09:42
Would anybody take Ross Barkley on loan from Villa in jan I know he's 32 but a lot of experience. Likes to get forward and can score goals losing either Gomes or Andre need some one plus others.

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28 Dec 2025 09:53:35
Well now January is on the doorstep it won't be long before fans can begin to see what Fosun's master plan is going to be. For RE in my opinion it is a career defining window. I am still not convinced as to how much control a Wolves manager has on signings but RE needs to be given some building blocks for next season. I can't see huge investment as our position in the league will put most off except for moneygrabbers. I would prioritise a strong leader and a striker that can cut it in the Champ.

Surridge might be a good chance but I don't know enough of him tbh. Josh Sargent at Norwich might be a bet, Nuno is after him but politics there at WH may play a part. It will be interesting if Fosun opt to ditch their policy to buy unproven players to try to develop talent and then cash in. I can't see this happening but I can only see disaster if they continue with this.
Waiting with lackluster anticipation. Have a good new year all.

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28 Dec 2025 12:56:14
Surridge averages 1 goal evey 5 games so would probably be an option for next season.

28 Dec 2025 13:41:14
Everyone will have different ideas on who to let go in January, but the reality is we will get more for whomsoever leaves, in January than we will in the Summer. My list of players to sell, if they can attract buyers is, Johnstone and Sa if we can attract a replacement. Tchatchouchoua and, need a new wing back as Doherty cannot play there anymore.Wolfe or Bueno, Andre and Gomes, both are so easily by-passed and JSL, enough said for that choice.


Priority buys: goalkeeper, two mobile centre midfielders, with the ability to run forward with the ball and pick a pass and a fast paced striker.

 


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