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26 Apr 2025 00:18:10
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25 Apr 2025 20:15:51
The most amusing chant I have ever heard at a Wolves game, was when we asked Newcastle striker Micky Quinn, " Where the ---- is Spit The Dog?"
25 Apr 2025 21:34:40
I can think of some funny ones particularly aimed at Lee Hughes🤔😂. Not so funny for him though.
25 Apr 2025 22:21:22
We nearly signed Lee Hughes when he started out at Kidderminster.
25 Apr 2025 23:19:32
Wow. I didn't know that. We dodged a bullet there.
25 Apr 2025 08:10:48
Just seen Vardey's emotional farewell to Leicester fans, complete with mournful backing music.
I trust the molineux faithful will bid him farewell with a round of applause, an arousing 3 cheers for being a jolly good fellow and give generously to the half time collection and signing the card.
Really shows the quality and dignity of Neves sitting in the empty Mol sincerely bidding us farewell.
{Ed001's Note - I would think you were just being cynical, but Vardy is a prick, let's be honest. Good riddance. Neves, on the other hand, was a loss to the Prem when he left.}
25 Apr 2025 10:52:22
As much as we seem to dislike Vardy, who amongst us would rather have signed him from non-league when Mad Mick wanted to, for just £1mil? Jez Moxey apparently vetoed that signing! Vardy went on to turn down a move to Arsenal for mega money. Massive mistake by Wolves not to sign him.
25 Apr 2025 10:35:18
Indeed Ed, but he was never shy at winding up the away end.
{Ed001's Note - he is just generally not a nice person. How many managers have they gone through because of him? He was always happy to stab them in the back, even Ranieri. Nasty piece of work.}
25 Apr 2025 11:34:13
Ed001, that's hilarious, why don't you tell us what you really think.😂 Mind you Deep has a point, tbf.
{Ed001's Note - I can't say what I really think, that was the polite version!}
25 Apr 2025 13:03:10
I was considering that deepthroat but I reckon he may have done more damage than good over time. We may have dodged one.
His pathetic 'howling' gesture against us summed him up, let's hope we give him the foxes brush treatment tomorrow.
25 Apr 2025 13:07:35
He needs a big money last move to Saudi or the US to pay her legal fees!
25 Apr 2025 13:31:36
Nice one Arddunby.Think I can guess what might be sung tomorrow and it won't be overly complimentary!
25 Apr 2025 13:37:56
He was always happy to stab them in the back, Ed001? He wasn't above stabbing them in the front either! Let's howl him off the pitch tomorrow.
{Ed001's Note - very true.}
24 Apr 2025 12:20:52
Why would Cunha want to go to utd? They're a drop down if he wants champions league football he needs to go to a better club than them!
24 Apr 2025 14:38:24
Rhythem is a dancer
AGBA is the answer
Try and beat him if you dare
Tackles with his left foot
Tackles with his right foot
You should see him in the air
Oh oh we got AGBA
oh oh you should see him in the air
24 Apr 2025 16:36:44
If it's all true 'the manager' he's probably had his head turned, maybe he thinks they're still a force in the league or it's just £'s. If the media is to be believed he likes them and he's now not the most popular player in the Wolves dressing room. Personally, I think I'd wait and see who else is interested if I was him.
So another one bites the dust and we move on, it's happened before and it will happen again, so now it's all about the replacements.
24 Apr 2025 17:07:34
If I was VP I'd be tempted to forget about him now if he as said he's definitely off, and he's become a distraction in the dressing room.
We've got to move on, let's show we're not a one man team, the opposition may even find it harder to prepare for us and allow us more flowing play.
Don't get me wrong, he's a talented guy who can change a game but we don't need all the media baggage putting unneeded pressure on.
24 Apr 2025 17:41:09
Understand your point of view Abbey but I'm always of the persuasion that you should always put out the strongest team, plus it keeps him in the shop window and if he performs it may start some sort of auction amongst the interested clubs.
24 Apr 2025 17:56:04
Me too Abbey. Get rid ASAP. VP has built up a great rapport with the fans. The players are playing for him as a team. If Bellegarde is back from injury, drop Cuhna to the bench and really only as a last resort bring him on. Put R Gomes and Sarabia on first. I'm actually getting fed up of hearing about him now. He'll fit in well with some of the other narcissist's at MU.
24 Apr 2025 19:05:17
I'm a great believer in always playing the strongest team, normally. But this is not a normal situation. Cunha has been publicly courted by Man U and wants to jump into bed with them. What if we play him and he gets a bad injury, like out for a whole season? That's the £62mil deal in jeopardy! No Cunha next season and no money!
Rest him and wrap him in cotton wool until he is Man U's property and we have our money.
24 Apr 2025 20:35:11
Did anyone else wonder why Cunha didn't take the free kick against Man U that Sarabia scored, he normally does. Or am I just preaching sedition.
24 Apr 2025 21:04:14
If he has agreed the move then that should be the end of his time at Wolves with immediate effect. We are safe so we don't need him to save us. Let him for. He doesn't need to be anywhere near the 1st team. Seems he's turned into this season Matheus Nunes.
But if I was Fosun, I'd tell Man Utd it's the half of the money immediately and the other half in January or no deal.
25 Apr 2025 10:49:55
We should always play our best team as Derry says, so for that reason Cunha doesn't play for me. We have had our best results in decades with Cunha out. He is disruptive and attracting unwanted and unneeded media attention.
He could get injured and then where would we be?
For me Vitor should do a Dawson and let him train on his own.
If he is desperate to go to Man U then surely that puts us in a stronger negotiating position with them regarding terms?
Really interesting times to be a Wolves supporter.
Bring it on!
24 Apr 2025 07:39:12
{Ed's Note - Philip_hunter2003 has posted a new article entitled, Football Finances Simplified
24 Apr 2025 11:49:00
Excellent v simple explanation.
23 Apr 2025 16:41:21
Like most I support Wolves as it's my home team. My old man said supporting them work prepare me for the after life as it's like purgatory.
The time we had under Dave Jone and Mad Mike gave some smiles and then Nuno took us to a different level. Fosun MUST support VP in the summer if they truly want success. I believe could in a couple of season get us back in Europe, now that would be great.
The bones of the team are solid with a decent back three, two very good midfielders and a striker with a bit of confidence.
If I could be so bold and suggest we need a pace up from to support JSL . If we stick with wing backs then we need back up either from within or recruitment.
Additional back up in midfield and a Goalkeeper
23 Apr 2025 17:56:50
Unfortunately Jeff Shi does not want success
23 Apr 2025 20:29:29
Rubbish QS. Of course Fosun and Shi want a successful club like all of us. We'll get more of an idea which direction Fosun want to take us in the summer. This current team under VP is as good as the team under Nuno IMO and next season we'll climb the table and certainly be in the top 10. I guess though that your glass is half full and we'll be selling Cuhna, J Gomes, RAN, Andre, and possibly Aga. Oh yeah and VP walks one week before the season starts. Come on guys. We've won 5 games on the trot. Level points with MUFC ( Done the double over them) and now above WH and Spurs who both have spent fortunes. Relegation is no longer a threat despite you predicting it would go to the wire. We have a lot to be optimistic about. There's no doubt there will be some senior players leaving Wolves this summer, but I'm confident replacements will be equal or better than those we lose. It won't be J Gomes, Andre, or Aga either. These players are pivotal to our success and VP won't allow these to leave. We're also in negotiations with Semado and I expect we may keep him for at least another season.
23 Apr 2025 21:22:34
Personally, I'd let Cunha go if that's what he wants and use the money to buy Yuri Alberto from Corinthians and Mohamed Amoura from Werder Bremen at £25m each.
23 Apr 2025 21:51:52
I think what QS means Blackfords is that Jeff/Fosun's interpretation of 'success' might look a bit different to what the fans would like to see.
Success to them may simply mean financial independence whilst maintaining a spot in the Premier League. The fans inevitably will want more but as you say the Summer will give us a better understanding of what is likely to happen.
24 Apr 2025 06:36:06
We are all second guessing Long on our Owners expectations from this tiny bit of their Empire.
What we do know is we have a good Footballing Director, and excellent manager and the foundations for a strong squad. Also Mr Guangchang cares enough to come over to bail us out (again) in January.
For me sadly, they don't care enough to give us an active CEO to grow the Club. It appears the current occupant is just a passive Representative of Fosun.
24 Apr 2025 11:04:30
Rugeley I'm not sure if a 'bail out' happened or not given the financial independence mantra but you're right we do have all of those things right now. However, you make an excellent final point which probably tells us more about their plans going forward.
24 Apr 2025 11:55:52
I get your point Black, there is plenty to be positive about. All I would say is that I would feel FAR more positive if we announced a new contract for VP. He currently has just over 12 months left and with how VERY average Ange, Potter etc look that doesn't feel like enough protection in my eyes?! Let's hope its in the pipe line eh 👍
24 Apr 2025 12:15:20
Good post Rugeley.
We certainly have done well, (extremely well under the circumstances), to have discovered the talent we have over the past few years. We also, if the evidence of the last few months are anything to go by, have a manager who can get the best out of what we have, which as you say is the foundations, and a few more courses of brick actually, of a strong squad.
But because Jeff is not merely failing, as you say, to drive the club forwards but is sending the club backwards at a ferocious rate of knots - (lets move away for a moment from views and opinions and give you a fact, ( many won't like it but it is a fact), Brentford, a club I have often been asked to compare to Wolves, from a similar but slightly smaller turnover made some £233m more profit than Wolves over the last 3 years. This is before player sales in case you merely think Brentford sells their best players each year - they don't in fact Raya was their only significant sale in the 3 year period with Toney not sold until this year i.e. beyond the period under review but we do!) - we have been and almost certainly will continue to be unable to build on those foundations.
I accept it is a view that the club may be better off without one of the best players in the league - an odd view but a view - in Cunha but are we really better off without Neves, Neto, Cunha, MGW, Collins, Kilman etc etc etc.
If Jeff was only as good at running a football club as the Brentford man we could have kept all of them.
Then the new talent we found would not be rebuilding the foundations - i.e. keeping us in the Prem but putting on the roof - winning trophies and competing in Europe!
24 Apr 2025 13:12:48
Does Jeff want 'success'? Depends on your version of success. Man City are facing possibly very serious penalties. Is that success? I'm sure Daniel Levy at Spurs wants success, but it doesn't look like success to me, for all they have spent. Man U - don't get me started, what a joke! Is that success? Chelsea nearly as bad as United. I don't think Jeff fancies these versions of success. He probably has the Brighton or Brentford models in mind in my view, or even Forest.
24 Apr 2025 17:11:50
Blackford's-Rubbish?
Didn't Shi advise supporters that if you wanted trophies and European football, then Wolves were not the club for you. If you don't want trophies and European football then what is determined as success?
25 Apr 2025 05:20:49
Never mind the football or the fans QS, keeping your his job is a success for Shi.
23 Apr 2025 07:39:11
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Leicester City v Liverpool - A Quick Liverpool Perspective
22 Apr 2025 21:59:24
Interesting topic on the BBC which midfield pairing would you rather have Gomes and Andre or Neves and Moutinho.
What do each pairing bring?
Which are the safest? etc.
Just a fun discussion
For me it is Gomes and Andre as I prefer the faster style of play.
How about the rest of you
22 Apr 2025 22:46:52
Always felt that having a defensive midfielder as your best player slowed things a bit as Neves was a ball magnet. However, Neves and Moutinho were World class and they showed it on many an occasion, so, it has to be them for me.
23 Apr 2025 08:20:16
Brilliant Q.
Andre and Gomes are going to get better and for me Gomes is by far the most progressive of the 4 giving a better balance perhaps?
However Moutinho and Neves were as Long say world class and the current two are not there yet - although still amongst the very best in the Prem so I'd go for the old boys.
How fantastic though that we have managed to sign 5 - Lemina was top top draw as well until GON ruined him - high class mids over the past few years.
Well done the recruitment team!
23 Apr 2025 09:09:58
Great question! Both paira were/are class in their own way. But I'm going to cheat, cause I think watching Gomes and Neves play together would have been an absolute dream! It would have let Rueben push forward a little more and given us the best of both worlds work rate (Gomes) and technical genius (Ruben)! COYW 🐺
24 Apr 2025 08:01:35
Interesting take on Lemina, Future. O'Neil certainly did mess him about by playing him in all sorts of positions but top drawer? For me he was generally solid and dependable (what we were missing when we bought him), ie typical journeyman that he is.
24 Apr 2025 12:28:12
Old I think that is a fair description of his overall career but for 6 months playing with J Gomes last season he was in my view sensational.
Actually thinking about it pretty much the whole team was, (Hwang had his purple patch and we were flying), so what happened after Coventry?
Neto and Dawson were injured and the team fell apart.
Could it be that Dawson was the "manager" and GON merely stood on the sidelines with his ipad and took the credit?
Certainly it made last summer's decisions even odder. Knowing you couldn't operate without Dawson ad Neto and knowing Dawson was done you sold Neto and Dawson's right hand man Kilman and replaced none of them!
Unsurprisingly we reaped what we sowed!
22 Apr 2025 19:31:45
Apparently, VP's record at Wolves, if replicated from the start of the season, would have us in fifth place at the moment.
23 Apr 2025 08:27:11
And from a standing start - i.e. no preseason to get to know/drill the team. Yerson will also be back to strengthen the defence.
It makes you think that if we kept the team together we could be a successful side next year and maybe even challenge for Europe/trophies.
But Jeff has persuaded Cunha and seemingly lots of the fans that we aren't a team that wins things. Sadly therefore in part also due to his financial incompetence we will not keep the team together and thus almost certainly won't win things.
Guess Jeff will be right after all!
23 Apr 2025 09:56:36
Come on TFIOG1 that post is really negative. Who knows what will happen in the summer, but one thing is pretty certain we will find out Fosun's intentions. VP has put himself in an incredibly good position. As you point what a turnaround to our season from a standing start. He only has 12 months of his contract remaining so my guess is it wouldn't cost that much for interested parties to buy it out if Fosun don't back him this summer and that includes not selling our best players. Why on earth would he allow that to happen without himself walking, hence why I'm saying we'll know Fosun's intentions in the summer. Regarding the sale or proposed sale of Cuhna I know he almost single handedly saved us from certain relegation under GON, but VP has created a team ethic now and not just a one or two player outfit. I can understand why Cuhna only signed that contract with what is an incredibly low release clause for his calibre of player. My guess is he was so frustrated about GON's style of management, selection, and overall team performance and lack of team discipline. Don't forget Cuhna did cost us a place in the Semi's of the FA cup. Another source of income!
I'm not even sure he'll go to MU and if he does we get other players in who want to play for us. There's always another Cuhna out there!
I know you keep bashing Shi and you're far more knowledgeable in the financial area than me, but from what I read MU can really only afford Cuhna based on selling some of their player such as Rashford. Villa might be able to afford his transfer fee, but not I would think his reported wages. Also Sancho, Anthony. All over paid failures or cause unrest in team moral so maybe Shi isn't that bad afterall. With a bit of luck and if reports are accurate we'll offload our Deadwood in the summer. Another reason to be optimistic.
23 Apr 2025 10:33:47
We're at a very real crossroads in the history of our club I think, and it's Jeff in the driving seat!.
Where does he want to go? Is he simply a Sunday afternoon driver? Does he have a destination in mind? Does he want to travel as far as he can, or just park up?
Come on Jeff let us belted in passengers know what the rides likely to be.
23 Apr 2025 13:00:54
Interesting, how positive our conversations now are about how we would like our future to be, compared to how it would have been in the Championship.
23 Apr 2025 13:30:49
Some good points Blackfords and a great analogy Abbey so let's just hope Jeff's destination isn't sh*t creek again.
I think those of us who follow matters both on and off the pitch all realise that this Summer will be the best indicator of Fosun's ongoing intentions for the club.
23 Apr 2025 17:15:25
Black - sorry yes it is.
Some of you know that after retiring from a career in finance and education I now run a walking business based on history.
I am therefore very interested in history and the Wolves situation reminds me of a brilliant quote from Churchill. Paraphrased it went something like - "if you don't learn from history you keep making the same mistakes".
For the last 2 years we have sold our best players: Neves and Neto and despite the losses clearly hurting the team I have no faith that we won't do the same thing again this year and lose Cunha - which in my opinion will hurt the team badly.
Will he learn from that?
I have no faith he will ever learn and eventually it will be fatal for the club!
Now that is dark!
23 Apr 2025 18:56:10
One man never makes a team, Tfig. I'm not worried about Cunha chasing medals and cash, if, and it's thr proverbial if, the money recieved is allowed to be spent on VP's choices.
If Jeff wants the dosh then expect j gomez, samedo, RAN, Sa, Hwang possibly Andre and ultimately vitor to go. That would break the club tho and to be honest I can't see Jeff
doing that.
It may well be the stale prem survival approach he takes, wouldn't it be great to think he'd support VP, give him the necessary to build something special tho, but I think you'll be right in the quote tfig, history is likely to repeat it self.
23 Apr 2025 21:01:33
History will repeat itself this Summer, no doubt but the acid test will be who they sell and who they bring in.
Now that might sound blindingly obvious but if players want to go it's hard these days to stop them, however, some may be convinced to stay if VP wants them. Sarabia would be one for me but on £90K per week Jeff will want him off the books for sure.
As I've said before it's absolutely vital that they don't alienate VP as they've managed to do to previous incumbents of that job. That's one lesson from history I prey they have learnt.
23 Apr 2025 21:27:24
Churchill certainly made a lot of mistakes to learn from.
24 Apr 2025 08:19:40
The song remains the same WO, not all led zep songs were good, but what a band they were.
22 Apr 2025 15:41:11
I would have no problem with Cunha leaving for Man Utd as long as the money is used to buy Yuri Alberto and Mohamed Amoura.
22 Apr 2025 14:43:32
LongmyndWolf has written an article entitled, Next Season Looking Positive For Wolverhampton Wanderers
22 Apr 2025 17:33:58
Long you are correct there is no reason why we couldn't have a good season next year.
We have a strong defence with Yerson to come back. One of the best Mids in the league and an ok attack - although heavily reliant on Cunha and RAN for creativity.
However I do think people are getting carried away with the idea that we can lose Cunha and it will make no difference as we had a good run without him.
We beat 3 of the bottom 4 (indeed our 5 wins have come against 5 of the bottom 7, we are the 6th and Leicester, who we play next the 7th.)
Also whilst not unhappy to lose any of the players you mentioned - (although perhaps odd that so many think Sa will leave, meaning we have to buy a new gk and its hard to think we will get a player as good for the pennies Sa costs?)- the club is seemingly signalling that RAN will go as well.
With us already having H Bueno and Gomes R of our, in my view, best 6 players (Cunha, RAN, Andre, Gomes J, Semedo and Emmanuel), he is the one we can most easily cover for. However as stated he is our 2nd best creative player behind Cunha. Losing them both would be a disaster.
Also the idea that we can simply sell our best player each year - Neves, Neto and now Cunha - but merely continue to find players of the required quality to replace them is in my view a huge and highly flawed gamble.
I know I have bored you all to death with this but I just wish so many Wolves fans weren't so happy with Jeff's "Wolves are not a club to win things with" mantra.
He is wrong and it doesn't have to be like this.
Why for example should Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth, (teams with virtually no heritage), and Villa, Newcastle and Forest (teams with heritage but who until relatively recently were well behind us in the pecking order), be teams that have ambition whilst we don't?
Rhetorical question by the way!
22 Apr 2025 19:19:01
Longmynd you summed it up at the end.
Forget who may or may not leave I think the real key to our future is making sure we retain VP. Jeff and his bosses have to give some clear indication of their intentions and hopefully ambitions or they will see this club and any financial benefits trickle away, and ensure a struggling club for years to come.
I'm worried that global pressures may constrict any safety in future speculative moves from fosun, and I'm still worried that they'll cash in and sign out in the summer.
22 Apr 2025 21:18:17
Those are the $64,000 questions Abbey all compounded by the lack of information coming out the club but if they carry on selling off our best just to keep the doors open, so to speak, what's the point?
TFIOG I hope they were shaken by our struggles earlier this season, as we've said many times relegation would have been a disaster for them, the Club and of course the fans. To be fair we did have a good Xmas window in response to that threat but the forthcoming Summer window will tell us far more about Fosun's future intentions.
Is their age of austerity coming to an end, have they restructured sufficiently or will the goings on in the US prolong it, maybe their attitude towards Wolves is for keeps? Will the hiring of VP and what he's achieved soften their approach or will it in their eyes vindicate their policies? No idea, but as things stand some of the players I've mentioned apparently want to leave while the others seem to be strongly tipped to go.
VP has proven we were in a false position in the League, however, as you rightly point out that's with the players we currently have so will the pruning be to the periphery of the squad to give VP more of who/what he wants or will Jeff get his tree saw out, again?
If it's the latter then I agree without the right replacements it could well be another race to the bottom in which case I would think VP would walk. Or, Fosun might conclude it's just not for them anymore and put the Club up for sale as a mid table side with plenty of potential for growth, both on and off the pitch.