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06 Dec 2024 10:03:01
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06 Dec 2024 07:39:16
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05 Dec 2024 20:55:57
Interesting fact:
Dawson is now Everton's second highest goal scorer this season with the two he got last night.
Heard Dwight McNeil was getting worried.

05 Dec 2024 19:41:31
And there are still those among you who blame Lage?
He is managing Benfica - in the ECL - one if the best sides in Europe!
Never mind!

We need a manager who can motivate these guys and Fosun should release the money.

Will they?

05 Dec 2024 21:08:15
I agree with your premise, but it's difficult to 'release' money that isn't there, at least not on the scale that it would now take! Like I've said before sadly this whole situation has been seasons in the making! 😭

05 Dec 2024 23:42:19
Spot on again Bullysboy. Seems we’re stuck between a rock and a hard place. No doubt Gary O’Neill will fall on his sword. Entire team now drained of confidence so bring in Moyes or whoever but it just papering over the cracks.

06 Dec 2024 07:14:15
So right Bully, from the heady days of Europe, it has been a steady decline.
I feel, right or wrong, O'Neil has an agreement with whoever run our Club to go and the only delay is convincing someone to take his place.
Like you, under the current Ownership, can't see them funding a "recovery" plan.

06 Dec 2024 07:57:23
Let's be honest fosun have neglected the club since our European journey. They don't appear interested in anything other than financial matters and those 'shortfalls' are in part down to their own doings. I think they've misread the pull of the game off the pitch and, I maybe biased or blinkered here, the youth of today in their attachment to other things club related, ie fashions and Esports which havnt matched expected return to investment. This then dosnt help self sustainability. We've spent out on youngster who so far haven't made or been given the chance to perform in the first team bar Hugo bueno who we let out on loan, maybe get sold now for decent money but hasn't helped us on pitch.
GON surprisingly installed after the excitement of lost and subsequent walk out. Maybe on the cheap and the value now actually showing.
Chinese investment possibly curtailed and we find our selves witha an owner who will be hard to inspired or have means to fund a recovery.
I hope I'm wrong, I hope my limited knowledge is proved incorrect and that Fosun will show some gumption and allegiance to sort the mess out as much as GON needs to wake up stop the 'yea, no' I'm the man we'll try attitude to 'we will, we can' and I'll prove I'm the man. I can take defeat when we've obviously put in a shift and shown some desire. Lemina hinted at the mental attitudes not being rught, do these guys want to play as a team for wolves or individual paypackets?
Sorry I'm so down about things, but I worry, and can't make head nor tail of where my/our club is heading.

06 Dec 2024 08:48:51
Abbeywolf you’ve expressed my feelings so well.

06 Dec 2024 09:51:49
I can understand your point of view Abbey and whilst Fosun may well have misjudged the situation and left the club in a bit of a sticky situation the squad is full of reasonably competent players, many of whom are seasoned internationals. We have seen how good various individuals can be and it's up to the manager to get them performing to their optimum match after match, playing as a cohesive unit. If each player was playing at a 7 or 8 rating every match we would be a force to be reckoned with so the question that requires an answer is why are they so consistently well below par and that can only be the down to the manager and the coaching staff. There are squads in this league with nowhere near the quality we have and yet they are outperforming us which begs the question why?

05 Dec 2024 18:52:54
When Wolves increased our season ticket prices Jeff said this was vital for the club.
Gary is now saying he is more worried about the club than his job.
The club is losing millions of pounds each year.
Who is going to buy a business that is losing millions of pounds each year?
If Fosun decide to cut their losses and sell their assets will we even have a club?
Will we need to get the Save The Wolves buckets out like we did in the 80's?

05 Dec 2024 18:41:07
Would Mark Robins, ex Cov, be an option?
We all keep talking Potter and Moyes!

05 Dec 2024 23:23:02
Rob Edwards for me

05 Dec 2024 18:16:10
Whatever happens let’s keep supporting the lads however difficult it is during the game and then let your feelings known after the whistle ends. Tough times for sure but we will get through it.

05 Dec 2024 18:29:54
If the lads actually bother to try yes.

05 Dec 2024 18:49:06
It’s not looking as he will be relieved of his post, and yes I’m p1sswd as most are on here, unfortunately I have tickets and flight booked for Hammers game as I wanted to go to stadium as I’ve never been there.
So yes I will have to support the team, do I dislike GON, definitely not, I wanted him to succeed, but I just simply don’t see it, I seen footage of final whistle, And had to feel sorry for him. I understand fans being angry, but some really need to calm down, it’s a sad state we are in, on the pitch GON and players are to blame, but overall, we’ve been let down since our great heights of our Europa league season, the sale of Jota started the demise of the hard work that had been done by Nuno and Darymple and the likes.
Followed by Lage, LOP, and GON not being backed when needed, in amongst that a few panic buys to try and appease fans in transfer windows, The owners and the board need to take a big part of the blame in all Of this, unfortunately for Gary he will have to take the hit for all involved, Shi will Walk away untouched as normal. If GON is going to stay, something has to change and that starts this Monday, us fans too have to get behind the players and drive them on, as it stands we don’t have any managers that look like they want the job.

05 Dec 2024 19:13:58
Great posts gents, I agree with all of the above! Especially don't like peeps being personal about GON, the blokes trying his best! Also think some need to remind themselves that he's ONLY 41 and in his third year of management! As such he has already achieved more than some managers do in there entire careers (kept two clubs in the Prem) 👍

05 Dec 2024 21:14:04
All true but Bournemouth did replace him with Iraola who is only a year older but doing so much better. Them there is also Hurzeler at Brighton who is relatively inexperienced.

I don't think GON has the tactical nous but there are others who seem to. Michael Carrick springs to mind.

05 Dec 2024 21:46:02
True, but Iarola is still in his sixth year of management, Hurzeler (amazingly for his age) is in his eighth year! Both started at MUCH lower level clubs! If they'd have gone first season into the Prem then I suspect even they might have struggled to keep a team up! I still think GON could be a good manager some day, its just starting to look like too much too soon (especially with the way we are run:)!
Also with this I've said before we have a habit (in this country) of underestimating just how highly rated Iarola is from his time in Spain. He was a REAL coup for Bournemouth (also why they brutally sacked GON) I think the Iarola will end up at a big club someday, would LOVE us to be in for him but again I suspect he's already beyond our reach! 😔

05 Dec 2024 22:17:28
Again you're right Bullysboy. After listening to the BBC GON interview, it seems he's just keeping the seat warm for the next manager. I think one of the major factors for our poor showing is the fact that we do not have a defensive coach. We have GON and Shaun Derry who were both midfielders, a GK coach and 2 other coaches who never played the game. I said a few days ago that someone like Lescott could come in and help if needed.

05 Dec 2024 22:20:44
I think O'neil needs a couple of seasons managing a league 1 team (not us lol) so he can develop.

05 Dec 2024 23:17:14
Agree with both of you, and in fairness Wandering I agreed with you when you said it weeks ago (re: a proper defensive coach). At this stage I'd take Lescott but he might need to bring his boots mind, cause off current performances he might just get a game! 🙈🤣

05 Dec 2024 16:45:05
If we GON, who will honestly want to come in and risk their reputation by working with this joke of board? GON was the cheap option after Lopetegui exposed them but add to this., which half decent player will want to come in and become part of this comedy act?

The likes of Harry Maguire could come in on loan and shore up our defence but will Shi release any money for us to pay his wages? I think not.

The best we'll get is an older player on a free looking for one last payday or an inexperienced youngster.

I have no faith in Fosun especially since GON has admitted that Lima, Forbs. Rodrigo and Meupiyou were not earmarked to actually play this season.

And I have no faith that GON can set us up to win.

05 Dec 2024 16:58:09
As things stand Wandering probably no one would.

Someone wrote that the Club acknowledges that they let GON down in the last window but I'd be surprised if, nevertheless, they weren't talking to potential replacements or at least the rumours seem to imply that they are.

So without going over old ground will Fosun's stated desire to stay in the Premier League be at all cost. If it's yes, then they may be forced to change their ways simply to attract a Manager/Coach good enough to pull us out of the mire. That would be music to my ears because it would not only give us chance to survive this season, but in future ones as well.

05 Dec 2024 17:18:24
Haha, it is funny Wandering when you think about it fella! We have both spent the last month or so debating with you blaming GON and me blaming Fosun. Now we seem to both finally agree that both need replacing, what a difference a game makes eh! 🤣
Not sure either will happen mind, cause it doesn't seem to be in the club's interests?!

05 Dec 2024 17:52:25
Indeed Bullysboy.

After last night, especially given the performance, I don't think GON has any credit left in the bank and Fosun lost the fans respect a while ago.

05 Dec 2024 16:23:50
Bit of positivity in this dark time Wolves' Matheus Cunha is the first player EVER to be nominated three times in a single month for goal of the month.

05 Dec 2024 17:20:53
Sadly every silver lining has a cloud, cause with our current circus of a club all that will do is help invite cheap/silly bids come Jan! Already read one (delusional) joruno saying Spurs were getting him for £40m, delusional as that would actually mean we'd make loss, Ok then?! 🙄🤣

05 Dec 2024 14:43:39
Have Fosun made the calculation that less will be lost in terms of value of the club in the event of relegation than would need to be spent on new players to save us? Afterall they are a conglomerate and therefore all about money.

05 Dec 2024 15:25:03
I doubt it Mikebayleaf1, in the Prem £500M in the Championship about £100-150M Plus whatever they rake in from top player sales and wages. I think they would still lose far more if relegated.

05 Dec 2024 16:11:45
I honestly can't believe Fosun haven't sacked GON. Can only mean they've resigned us to relegation this season. Goodbye Fosun and all our better players.

05 Dec 2024 17:24:26
It does make ya wonder doesn't it, not a conspiracy theory or anything but it does make ya wonder what was agreed. I do wonder if when we sold our best players and GON still signed a contract he said 'OK I'll stay but I want 4 years and a LOT of patience cause this could get messy'?! Sounds silly but I honestly think the ONLY reason he's still in a job is cause Jeff knows no one else of note would tolerate our insane approach to transfers?! 🙄

05 Dec 2024 13:52:36
Moyes and Potter don't won't the job because of Wolves self sustainability rule that is the problem Wolves and Fuson have until Fuson change there stance on funding the club things will only get worse.

05 Dec 2024 14:51:17
Now GON is saying he's the man for the job. Interview this morning.
He's got some front ill give him that. He's understanding of the supporters unrest, he takes the blame, but says he dosnt know how many are upset because only the loudest are heard.
Now he says no one works harder than him. Maybe true but the end product isn't good enough.
Looks like we've got to tolerate the experience again on Monday guys, if we win does it change anything long term? We're in a dead end.

05 Dec 2024 14:56:48
Who are Fuson?
Have we been taken over while No one was look8ng?