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06 Sep 2023 20:51:38
Have to ask what do peeps make of Nunes leaving statement?! I can't help but feel its all just a way to cover his shocking behaviour?!
Was somewhat cryptic mind, to essentially say 'when everything comes out no one will EVER question my disgusting behaviour again' is a bit bizarre and somewhat specific?! Probably all just sour grapes but it does make ya wonder if something big is quietly changing at the club?!

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1.) 06 Sep 2023 23:03:10
He went on strike. Its unforgivable what he did. Unless he was being victimised or subjected to criminal acts against him there is no excuse.


2.) 07 Sep 2023 00:43:19
Oh I agree Jas, not for a second buying into as an excuse. There's never an excuse for downing tools, I suppose what surprised me more was had it been a token 'once in a lifetime, blah blah blah' sob story then that would have been pretty standard. It's more that he speaks with absolute certainty (and arrogance) that time will not judge him poorly?! Which like I say I suspect is just a smoke screen for his poor behaviour but again these words are pretty specific
'Everything happens for a reason, however incomprehensible it may seem at first sight, but the future, will clarify it and probably, at that time, everyone without exception will understand the reason for the last troubled week'


3.) 07 Sep 2023 07:12:23
Snake would be denigrating the whole reptilian community Bully's.Smokescreen and nothing else.His warped mind probably thinks it might alter his forthcoming reception. Danny Mills will be thinking he got off lightly.


4.) 07 Sep 2023 10:02:39
Basically he's blaming everyone else but himself for going on strike. He's hardly going to pop back up in three years time and say "oh BTW, the time I went on strike to join Man City is because X, Y, Z"


5.) 07 Sep 2023 12:38:50
Nunes' statement is beneath contempt. It's pathetic how he is trying to imply there was a problem at Wolves. Actually in a way there was, but the problem has been sold to Citeh.


6.) 07 Sep 2023 13:33:09
He is a Judas who'll probably get himself sent off the week befor City play us.


7.) 07 Sep 2023 14:39:03
Not under Guardiola, Rated. He'd be cleaning boots all season.


8.) 07 Sep 2023 15:11:49
Teams do it to players all the time. Have them practice with the U21. What happened when Real Madrid benched Bale.
Let's not get too emotional over it - the play was to flip him but it took to the end of the window for anyone to come in with a decent offer.
And he probably grew tired of Jeff dicking around to try to maximize the profit.


9.) 07 Sep 2023 17:54:49
Not sure what you are on about with your last sentence, Handsome. If every want away footballer went on strike because their club was trying to negotiate the best possible deal then it would almost be the Jarrow march all over again.


10.) 07 Sep 2023 18:21:24
What about the rest of my post about coaches having players they no longer want training with the U21s.
Didn't Nuno pull those stunts?
What about them leaving those players off of the team sheets trying to force them to leave a fully legal and binding contract?


11.) 08 Sep 2023 06:42:04
The guy has gone we made a profit on him not a great amount but yet still a profit.
I posted at the time it happens players down tools to force a move as did the guy from Brighton.

It's wrong and unprofessional but it's the age of the player power.
Jeez bet footballers of today can't even boil an egg spoilt filthy rich when the cost for supporters at matches and TV subscription packages.
You can understand as you put it handsome peeps emotional.

But see clearly where you coming from handsome.
At end of the day no one knows what goes on behind the scenes at our club.
To me if not for Internet (wolves bantersite) Nunes woukd of been tge next days chip shop paper.


12.) 08 Sep 2023 07:40:21
Name the players who were left out by Nuno but were good enough to be in the team Handsome. Cutrone was nowhere near good enough as his subsequent career has proved.


 

 

12 Aug 2023 07:21:31
Great piece from Jonny Philips today in the E and S. Really is quite damming for Jeff and Fosun mind! I may not of liked Lopes behaviour but the fact that the entire saga unfolded, including his leaving without as so much as a word from Jeff is disgusting! Just on a human level it's just wrong and I'm afraid it screams of an ownership group who have lost all interest in maintaining a life raft because they are too busy trying to bail water out of their Titanic! I don't care what Jeffs letter said (we all know we can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth anyway) Fosun are looking for a quick sale (in the next two years) I am willing to bet what's left of Jeff's reputation on it!
What happens then who knows, as has been (rightly) pointed out on here selling a club in a panic rarely works out well for said club, time will tell ????

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1.) 12 Aug 2023 10:11:40
I read it bullysboy and my head is spinning.

1 it changed everything the global pandemic and the jiminez injury.
Of which I have always thought was the main issue.

2 it's what's been disclosed of how the hierarchy handled that change from then until now that has sent huge alarm bells ringing in my head.

3 I put my trust in fosun and who ever they employ to run our club and I genuinely trust shi in his letter.
That's because how I feel I naturally have to.
I'm fine with being deemed gullible and taken in, with putting my head in the sand.

4 I find it odd that jonny Phillips writes this article on the eve of our season start.
How will this help fans who are in shock and dismay with the clubs owners?
5 our fans need a detailed statement from fosun within their intentions for the future.

6 I'm feeling rather shaken but not stirred.
All can do is just feel the best going into the matches.
As always just want a happy ship and read verdicts about the football we play.
The shenanigans of the management is blocking that.
All the best for the new season wolverhampton wanderers I have hope trust please do your best for the lads.
Amen.


2.) 12 Aug 2023 10:51:50
Different topic watching penalty shootout right now Australia v France.
It's gripping.

Will watch England semi after.


3.) 12 Aug 2023 14:55:35
Saves retakes saved again hits the post and scores a winner, was indeed gripping phil. Watched the England game but was driven mad by the incessant screaming sound of the fans, what's the average age?, it was like being in a kids playground for 90 mins. I'm not too excited by the tournament I must confess. They got through though, with two bits of fortune and a cracking save.


4.) 12 Aug 2023 15:07:21
Just read the article Phil. Tells it as it is and probably doesn't deviate too much from what most of us have probably been thinking.As for your 4, the catalyst was the Lopetegui leaving saga so I'm not sure there could be any other timing really.
Doesn't change things and we all really need to get behind the boys and O'Neil because, let's face it, nobody else will.


5.) 12 Aug 2023 22:29:10
Thanks for the response Phil, a good read as always buddy. Just to say I don't think your gulible at all, I do think you are a naturally optimistic person and as such look to see the best in people/situations which is no bad thing. As I've said before it's a large part of why I like reading your posts. I suppose in terms of the timing of the article then half of it wasn't relevant until after Lope left but I agree the timing is not good.
I also agree that a statement or fans forum from Shi would be great but the fact he didn't even do Lope (or GON) the courtesy of a phone call makes me pretty sure that isn't going to happen although I'd love to be wrong there!
All the best to you as well buddy for the new season, let's hope it's a good one and all the rest will be forgotten eh. COYW ??


6.) 13 Aug 2023 09:24:21
Thanks bullysboy ?

Tomorrow we off at mau utd hopefully a good performance and no reason why we can't get a result.

COYW


7.) 13 Aug 2023 09:26:32
Lol Abbey I fell back to sleep with England game and I posted wrong it was the quarter final ha ha.
Who cares man u watch out the wolves are wounded maybe but we not to be underestimated.
Coyw ?


8.) 13 Aug 2023 12:51:06
Absolutely Old Wulf let's get behind the team and new manager.


 

 

 

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24 Jan 2024 15:05:10
So I'm guessing that Jiménez or Nathan Collins didn't have contracts then?! Cause we got rid of them without any reports of them spitting or fighting with anyone?!
Look I'm sorry to see how far Jonny has fallen, he was a top player. But sometimes things don't work out, doesn't mean everything is a conspiracy. Especially considering that a) at no point has Jonny denied any of the (now public) allegations agaisnt him and b) GON has ALWAYS said that if he doesn't go he will be bought back into first team training. So I ask again, how else would you have liked the club to handle it exactly?!

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23 Jan 2024 14:28:13
I'd say its for the people that were there to make a judgement and that's precisely what they have done. Not sure why you think that it would have been any different for Lemina?!
Also you talk about excuses to get rid but did we need one?! He hasn't played regularly for well over a season now, this isn't the public sector and if they want to get rid of players they don't need to manufacture excuses (as we've seen before)! And OK there are possibly some VERY limited mitigating circumstances but I'm not sure why you seem to think you are in a better place to make a judgement on that than coaching staff that work with him every single day? And yes I would say that coaching staff are above players but frankly it shouldn't really matter! It also shouldn't matter if the spit landed (slightly concerned as to why you think it does), tell ya what Handsome you try doing that in your line of work and tell me how ya get on?!
Does make me laugh, some people just want to blame the club for EVERYTHING! Even to the point that a players vile behaviour is turned into a some hilarious conspiracy! Maybe GON and his coaches have things going on in there lives as well, ever thought of that? Ya still don't see um spitting at peeps do ya? ?

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22 Jan 2024 16:55:29
Not sure how they could of handled it much differently to be honest Handsome?! They tried to contain it once it became clear they couldn't they had to address it (which they did whilst saying that's why he was dropped from the squad). I have to ask Handsome did you actually read what he did cause to be honest I don't think many players could come back from that?! Fights in training happen and aren't the end of the world but the fact that he spat at a member of the coaching team is pretty indefensible to be honest! How exaclty do you move on from that?! Would you want to come in every day and work with a subordinate that spat at you?! I've always liked Jonny but there's only one person to blame for the current situation and it's the man himself! Is there EVER an excuse for a grown adult hitting and spitting at a college?!

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21 Jan 2024 23:06:34
Agree with Ford, if Villareal want him it would likely be with a fee agreed and we don't want another Pedro Goncalves situation! If he's up to a sqaud spot then we definitely need the extra cover back there especially (like Ford says) as Dawson ain't getting any younger (or quicker for that matter:) ?

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10 Jan 2024 11:40:07
Thing is Jas your argument of Ings is better than no one would be valid if it was 31st Jan. But it's not, if it's Ings or no one this early on (having already let two strikers go) then we have bigger problems than our strikers! I'm sure we have other irons in the fire, looks like it's academic anyway as I think injuries will make Ings unavailable anyway ?

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01 Mar 2024 16:55:24
It's a good and interesting point that New. I just wonder if it's (partly) down to the stats driven nature of modern footy?! What I mean is that if these lads are having it drummed into um from a young enough age that the probability of scoring is X amount higher when using your dominant foot then maybe they just become a little hard wired to shift the ball onto it before shooting?! Sheer guess work and I'm probs wrong but you are definitely right in that it seems a lot more common these days to avoid shoting on a players weak side. Bellegarde was a classic example he should have just put his foot through it! ?

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22 Feb 2024 11:57:11
I think Shi has been no different to any other commercial manager, or are you seeing other clubs leave us behind in terms of increasing levels of turnover year on year?!
What I don't get is how you've consistently assigned blame to Shi for the ALL recruitment side of things then refuse to give him credit in the same area, regardless of the realities of the situation. And your quite right, that is conjecture and might I suggest you have a check on what the definition of a fact is please ?
For example in one instance you say Shi played no part in Lopetegui coming right, you specifically know that it was just Mendes and Hobbs involved there, correct? How then in the next breath can you tell us that Lope left cause of Shis broken promises?! If Shi took no part in Lopes recruitment how then has he even MADE promises much less broken them?!
Do I think Shi could do better, sure but then who couldn't?! Do I think he's the reason behind every bad recruitment decision this club has made, frankly I'm not sure it's even possible that one man has that much reach?! Our fans have always needed someone to blame, used to be Moxey and now it's Shi. For the most part it's just human nature but I do get a little bored of people telling us the 'facts' of it when really it's just their (jaded) opinion ?

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22 Feb 2024 10:07:52
Problem is Rugeley there is absolutely no way to know how much of ANY of that was Shis involvement and how much was Guangchang. Answer me this, who is in charge in the dynamic Guangchang or Shi?! Ultimately Shi is just a company man, who is just delivering the bad news for what ever he's instructed to do higher up the food chain (so by Gunagchang). You mention Guangchang securing Lope (without Shi) but again sources please, cause that is again pure conjecture! Tell me this then why didn't your saviour Guangchang step in to stop Lope leaving exactly?!
So again and again it seems somewhat bizarre to me how you attribute blame or credit of different decisions with zero real knowledge/evidence of how that truly played out (which none of us have)! For example you talk about Gestifute bringing Coady in but he had already been at the club for over a season, you mention Gestifute being bought in to secure a manger again completely re-writting how that actually happened! Mendes was part of Fosuns original bid (as was Lope before he got a better offer), it was the idea of using Gestifute alongside a club which Fosun seemed sold on!
So sorry but the term fact is being used VERY liberally here! What you seem to mean by fact is your opinion or actually more accurately your complete assumption of how things have gone behind the scenes in a VERY secretive industry! Sadly your 'assumption' also seems to be tainted by the need for a pantomime villain, one bad man who's made all those bad decisions and somewhat incredibly survived in his role despite it (guessing that's ALSO Shis fault and not Guangchangs either ?:)?!
Sorry fella but I'm afraid that just isn't how big businesses operate in the REAL world! ?

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21 Feb 2024 20:00:43
Thanks for the reply, even if it was somewhat lacking in any actual facts.
So firstly I'm assuming you mean Bloomberg and looking at the article literally the second sub heading says 'Amount of capital being raised hasn't been finalised' so basically all this article actually says is that Jeff has been tasked with increasing revenue streams (in fact more through the eSport side of things rather than the club but I'm sure you read the whole article). Which considering increasing revenue streams is basically the top remit for his role (again a role which hasn't changed since 2017) then this doesn't really tell us anything especially new/different. In fact when you actually read the article (which again, I assume you did) it becomes fairly obvious fairly quickly that the $100m is an arbitrary figure used to make a catchy headline (it must be cause why else would they set the figure for an English club in US dollars or £80m in our terms seems an odd amount, no)?!
As for your one quote (again not a fact, to be honest it's not even really a quote) I'm not really sure what your point is? Hobbs role is recruitment so of course he was creating the short list! Who would you want making that shortlist the guy who's spent his life working in footy recruitment (Hobbs) or the guy that comes from a business conglomerate. And Shi may have been in China when the interview process was being done but they do have a little thing called the Internet these days, I reckon it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Jeff was also on board with GON appointment but hey if that doesn't fit the pantomime villain role you just go with what works for you!
So just to check basically Jeff's damned either way? If he let's Hobbs do the job HE hired him for then Shi gets no credit. But when things go wrong (like they did with Sellars) then that's also on Jeff as well cause he doesn't care?! Seems fair then?! ?
I notice you haven't mentioned the stuff on Guangchang, I wonder if he'll be 'interested' enough to attend another match before the season ends?!
I appreciate the effort getting back to me fella but so far I've yet to see ANY facts! So when ya get back in later feel free to ping some this way, I'll look forward to it ?

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21 Feb 2024 17:39:16
Dek- I think that was exactly the point Jas was making buddy ?

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