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14 Jan 2024 20:19:29
Some so called expert was on radio earlier stating that he was reliably informed that:

Everton will win their appeal against 10 point deduction but be given a 4 point deduction following the latest PSR report as they breached by £100m.

Forest to get a 6 point deduction for breaching by £62m

Wolves to be deducted 15 points for £2m breach.

Arsenal are £200m over limit and Villa £250 but both have been shown leniency because they will potentially end up in Champions League positions.

He stated that all 3 will launch an appeal and that he has heard that the PL want Wolves out for some reason.

Jas M

1.) 14 Jan 2024 22:34:07
That's just mischief making. They can't get away with giving forest 6 point deduction for 62 million breach and WW 15 points for 2 million breach. They'd be sued to death. We have to wait and see what tomorrow brings. Cut the speculation.


2.) 14 Jan 2024 23:06:51
Jas M you nearly gave me a heart attack!

Information on BBC stating Everton and Nottingham Forest expect to be told that they have exceeded the ‘’ffp loss levels ’, another report stated possibly Fulham and Aston Villa as well. Here’s hoping Wolves did enough with the sales at the start of the season.


3.) 15 Jan 2024 01:03:11
This has to be some sort of a conspiracy rumour. There is no way that could be true? It just would make no sense for docking so many points compared to others? And why does the PL want us gone?


4.) 15 Jan 2024 06:26:46
Latest from the Athletic is Everton and Forest will be told they have been found guilty today.
Both knew it was coming and have already prepared their Appeal cases.
All the conjecture should be cleared up in a couple of hours.


5.) 15 Jan 2024 06:45:24
Fingers crossed ?


6.) 15 Jan 2024 07:18:54
Only online resource reporting Wolves and breach of FFP is the iNews, while a lot more are carrying the Everton / Forest story.

As for the PL wanting Wolves out, that's 100% toilet water (aimed at whatever "expert" made that comment)


7.) 15 Jan 2024 10:52:10
Obviously until our accounts for the 22/23 season are annouced it is only speculation but the rumour in the Telegraph was that we would/have lose/t £65m in 22/23.
Given prior year figures of £46m loss in 21/22 and £21m profit in 20/21, (Note both these figures are also impacted by Covid - fixtures moved from 1 year to another amongst other thngs - and thus may attract some "allowance"), we should be comfortably inside the £105m rolling three year losses allowed?
Note this £105m is made up of £5m pa of straight forward losses and £30m pa of owner back losses - given Fosun wrote off more than that I assume that counts as "backing".
There are also adjustments allowed for certain things like ladies football, academy work etc etc
Please be aware however that the sale of Nunes, Neves etc are in the year 23/24 and thus are not included in these figures.
Those sales were made because in 23/24 our FFP position will be made up of the £46m loss in 21/2 the £65m loss in 22/23 and whatever outcome occurs in 23/24.
Simple maths says £46 + £65 is already more than £105! Hence we have to make a small profit, >£6m, this year 23/24 and the sales were designed to ensure that.
Again it is unclear if we have done enough as obviously a large chunk of our income is results dependentand thus unknown until the end f the season in May 24.
Hopefully management are on the ball and that will determine our activity this Jan i.e. do we have to sell Kilman or Neto now!
Next year 24/25 the £46m drops out of the 3 year cycle leaving us a £65m loss and this years >£6m profit ie we have a fair bit of wriggle room so may not have to sell anyone in the summer and could even make apurchase or two!
All above based on grey assumptions as I am not privy to Wolves finacical affairs beyond the published accounts.


8.) 15 Jan 2024 11:08:31
Great research there, futureisoldgold.


9.) 15 Jan 2024 11:32:01
Here here echo Deep Throat reply.


10.) 15 Jan 2024 12:20:44
future. Thank you, even I can understand that! Makes a change!


11.) 15 Jan 2024 13:25:53
Keen did a article stating Wolves owners expect Wolves to pass the ffp.


12.) 16 Jan 2024 02:25:13
I don't know how trustworthy the source is but on twitter the Wolfpack has announced 10hours ago that wolves are clear of ffp following transfer sales etc

{Ed001's Note - it would have been announced if they were in trouble.}


 

 

03 Jan 2024 15:23:31
Noha Lemina, 18 year old brother of Mario set to join on loan with option to buy. If he's half as good as his brother, we'll be getting one hell of a player.

Jas M

1.) 03 Jan 2024 20:59:45
Jas M we should be trying to sign a striker not some eighteen kid for the future as normal.


2.) 03 Jan 2024 20:15:48
Yes mate was just about to post it until I saw your post, Wolves are in talks with PSG over signing 18-year-old Noha Lemina, brother of Mario Lemina.

Talks ongoing over a loan with an option to buy. No agreement yet but talks on.

He’s currently on loan at Sampdoria but he would be recalled to then join Wolves, if all goes well.


3.) 03 Jan 2024 21:27:42
Dek123, maybe we will but there's no harm preparing for the future at the same time.


4.) 03 Jan 2024 21:51:51
Also reported were looking at Hugo Ekitike from PSG currently on loan at Sampdoria.


5.) 04 Jan 2024 22:15:42
Is Ekitike at Sampdoria? If he is then there's no point signing him as he's played 1 game for PSG. If he's played any minutes at all for Sampdoria, he won't be allowed to play for us this season.


6.) 06 Jan 2024 12:32:04
Jas I think I misread the original report Ekitike is I think at PSG and Leminas brother is loaned out to Sampdoria.


 

 

23 Nov 2023 18:09:06
Wolves linked with Viktoria Plzen striker Rafiu Durosinmi. 20 year old Nigerian. 16 goals in 60 games.

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21 Nov 2023 17:15:45
Looks like Neves will join Newcastle in January after only 13 clubs voted against the idea. 14 were needed. I wonder who the 7 clubs were who voted in favour were ?

Apparently 7 clubs have lined up loan moves for players currently playing in Saudi Arabia to cover for players going to Afcon.

Jas M

1.) 21 Nov 2023 20:53:52
My bad. Seems Wolves were one of the teams who voted in favour.


2.) 21 Nov 2023 21:06:30
Suspect your answer to the q in para 1 is in para 2!


3.) 21 Nov 2023 21:27:02
Wolves are reported to have voted against the new rule.


4.) 22 Nov 2023 08:58:33
Strange that we should vote in favour. This only helps certain clubs. It may all be a bit of an illusion anyway. A player coming back to the PL from Saudi might not be match-sharp in PL terms. Saudi is probably more like the MLS than the PL. Expect more chance of injuries for players coming back to the PL.


5.) 22 Nov 2023 12:57:00
I suspect it was clubs with foreign feeder clubs or clubs owned by the same owners that voted it down, Fosuns Swiss club?


6.) 22 Nov 2023 15:07:18
Still 13 is a majority so it should have really gone in theit favor.


7.) 22 Nov 2023 15:11:44
If that is the case it is indeed v v odd?
Why did Wolves bother with all the financial someresaults to stay in line with FFP, ie selling your best players and paying lower wages than your rivals, when all clubs need do is sell a youth team player - who you were going to release - who is in the books at zero to your sister club in a non regulated market (Note in our case Switzerland wouldn't help as I think they are caught by European FFP) for £100m or whatever you need to solve your problems?
Indeed why even pay transfer fees or salaries at all?
To improve your squad without falling foul of FFP your sister club in Saudi buys the player you want for whatever his price is say £150m. They then sell him to you on a free- no transfer fees on your books!
Wages well when the Saudi sister club signs a player they agree a wage - £25m a year - they pay £24.5m up front as a signing on fee.
When you buy him he agrees to earn the remaining £0.5m over the rest of the year.
Then next summer, (and each one for as long you want the player), you sell him to your Saudi club for what ever you need to solve any problems and buy him back for free after he has taken 98% of his annual salary up front again!
The game is now totally bankrupt and of course the authorities are clearly no longer in control with FFP officially dead!
What happens now?


8.) 22 Nov 2023 19:50:31
In fairness TFG (and I might be wrong here) but I think the vote was on an immediate change re loan system. I believe the FA has said that they intend to do something more long term moving forward. I suspect (but it's just a guess) that they will look to limit the number of non EU loan deals (say two per club). They put it to the vote and it didn't get the votes, not much they can do about that. So often the teams in this league look like turkeys voting for Xmas! Having said all that this league does seem to struggle with the term 'majority', all very frustrating! ?


9.) 23 Nov 2023 01:02:24
BB you may well be correct but frankly what part of my note is wrong?
Surely loans can be banned all you like if they can simply buy and sell players in the way I describe?
What needs to be put in place is that no player can be repurchased within say a 12 month window by an original selling club and perhaps that should be extend to 3 years for trades between sister clubs.
Indeed perhaps trades, loans and purchases, between sister/connected clubs need to be banned full stop.


10.) 23 Nov 2023 19:16:25
Oh I entirely agree with you there TFG! I suspect they will bring in some way of making harder but they will only do it AFTER the big clubs complain, which I'm sure once Newc catch um up they absolutely will! Interesting turn of events where it's being suggested Rueben may not want to come back so soon, which wouldn't surprise me considering he's only just uprooted his young family! Also interesting that we voted in favour, does make me wonder if we felt obliged to?! I said at the time that we got a crazy fee for Rueben (considering he was in his final year), maybe the clubs worried about bitting a hand that fed them?! Who knows, either way as I've said before the whole system stinks! ?


 

 

23 Aug 2023 20:36:21
Apparently Neto, Cunha and Sa deals lined up ready to be completed before transfer deadline day.

Fosun are not going to reinvest the money and Gary O'Neil has to use the loan/free transfer market.

American consortium were interested but were told the cost was £400m. They wouldn't pay that money so a fee of £200m has been agreed but Fosun have sold the Assets.

Don't know how true this is but the Arab states aren't interested. So its the Americans or nothing.

Jas M

1.) 23 Aug 2023 21:23:15
Rumours also from one of the clickbait sites Semedo in the frame for Man Utd.


2.) 23 Aug 2023 21:34:36
Where have you got this from?


3.) 23 Aug 2023 21:59:08
I just don't get it though Jas, cause none of that would make any sense from either end (seller or buyer)! From Fosun pov they won't even get £200m once we are relegated. As for the buyer why would they want to surrender all the clubs best assets for pence on the pound before buying a Champ bound club?! Something does seem to be going on but I'm damned if I can tell what it is. Fosun are in real trouble throughout their portfolio (another property giant collapsing in China last week couldn't have helped). However the other side to that coin is that £45m is chicken feed compared to the rest of the struggling postfilio?! Who knows, I have to agree with you though. If we sell Nunes on the cheap it pretty much feels like it would be a death nail at this stage! ?


4.) 23 Aug 2023 21:59:46
I’m new to the site - Jas is correct.

Sale has been agreed. New owners would not meet the original asking price so fosun are liquidating assets before completing the sale. Also, strongly rumoured centrally based non-playing staff have all been placed on notice of changes to contract which is another sure sign there’s a sale in the offing.

Not heard about other prime assets being sold other than Nunes before the window.

Identity of the new owners - guesswork - more than likely American to coincide with September launch of Wolves USA 1967


5.) 23 Aug 2023 23:41:00
BullysBoy, I don't know how true these rumours are but I'm over in Tunisia at the moment and they are football mad. They love the PL and show every game for free. This is thanks to the Saudi influence. The big 6 are that way because of the way they are marketed around the world. I hadn't really seen this side of football until I landed here and saw just how dominant they are over here.

This was only reported because Nunes is linked to Man City. Had it been Brighton or Everton, it wouldn't have made the news. But it was explained that Wolves is valued at £400m. This includes players, stadium and training ground. What Fosun are doing is selling the players so the overall value of the club decreases. They are hoping that the sale goes through within the next 2 months so that the new owners can provide the manager with funds to buy new players. The sale of Neves and Collins covered the FFP loses so any additional sakes have been to line Fosuns pockets.

Even the report here said it was very confusing.

Another report I saw said that the new owners are in the process of taking over the club very soon and do not want to deal with Mendes at all and have therefore instructed him to move his players on. This would echo what another poster stated a few weeks ago about Neves wanting to stay.

It seems that Lopetegui moved on as he was not aware that Fosun were looking to sell. They weren't when he joined the club.


6.) 24 Aug 2023 06:17:24
Fascinating information Jas and in my opinion absolutely plausible.
Looking at a proposed Nunes sale in the region of 50 million euros would only see the club show a slight profit after Porto’s 10%, agents’ fees and after comparing versus his amortised asset value after 1 year. We would obviously save > £8m amortisation for the current financial year along with his salary.
So what’s the point of selling Nunes to weaken a weakened squad? The main effect of his sale is to remove a large liability from the balance sheet.
£35m ish of contractual amortisation liability gets turned into cash / debtor.
Therefore I don’t buy the FFP thing just as I didn’t buy it on the night Fosun tried to spoon feed to Liam Keen and the press their alleged fact that we couldn’t bring in any players due to FFP.
Was there perhaps a ‘gentleman’s agreement’ with Nunes to let him go after 12 months? There has been persistent rumours in the press running over many months that he would go to Liverpool in this Window. Also Fabrizio Romano stated at the start of the Transfer Window to look out for Nunes news toward the end of the Window. Shocking stuff whatever the cause of this likely transfer (with insufficient time to action effective replacements) and this Transfer Window for our club is now bordering on the realm of gross negligence.
Disgusted.


7.) 24 Aug 2023 06:48:04
Whilst it does in part seem entirely plausible it would be very surprising but the amount that is reinvested will indicate fosuns current stance. It is very difficult to keep a player when pep comes calling, after all what player doesn’t want to challenge themselves with and against the best. So if he stays we will have a demotivated player at least for a period. Why I am having difficulty with it is that wolves would currently only receive a percentage of the transfer and the rest in instalments over probably the length of his contract. So all of the sales over this summer would devalue the asset for only a percentage of the final transfer fee here and now. That may only be half of the transfer fee. They would be losing a lot more with this fire sale than they gain


8.) 24 Aug 2023 08:49:14
Just a thought but if I had agreed to buy something then the buyer devalues the item would I still buy it?


9.) 24 Aug 2023 09:00:35
its a clear out sale thanks jeff shi


10.) 24 Aug 2023 09:11:05
should now be hounded out of our club if they had said what was going on fans may have understood but this way battis mk 2


11.) 24 Aug 2023 09:53:23
KingRichard, that's the point. No one wants to pay Fosuns asking price so their selling what they can and only leaving the bare minimum (ie Stadium and training ground). The incoming fees for players will go directly to the debtors.


12.) 24 Aug 2023 10:51:43
It's all beginning to become clear now. We are in a bit of trouble.


13.) 24 Aug 2023 12:55:24
we are jas told may be bull middle east group take over october


14.) 24 Aug 2023 14:35:40
So if you buy the clubs including stadium, players and other assets, how would selling players not reduce the amount the buyers are bidding for the club?


15.) 24 Aug 2023 14:40:37
Csb77 - I'd rather challenge against the best on the pitch during a game rather than on the training pitch.
Can you imagine looking back and giving up years of your 10 year career being a bench warmer.
Your grandkids ask how many goals you scored while with Man City and you tell them you just sat on the bench those years.
Talk about looking back with regret on your deathbed.


16.) 24 Aug 2023 15:04:05
These big clubs think they can come to clubs and boss them around.nunes is worth nothing less than 70 million.to me city ffp are coming lololol.


17.) 24 Aug 2023 15:15:03
Selling players (Assets on balance sheet) and getting rid of their wages ( future debits on an ongoing basis) the money received going into the company as current assets. If Fosun have made loans ( plus the £90million government loan) these could be repaid thus balancing out creditors.
That may be what a buyer would look for under due diligence to ensure they have value for the price they are willing to pay. Either way a buyer would have to take on the company debts unless it was liquidated which is highly unlikely.
It would be a good way for Fosun to claim their loans back so a potential buyer doesn’t have to cover them.
Brings the cost of purchase down as others have posted.
So maybe not as far fetched as we may believe?


 

 

 

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29 Feb 2024 15:16:24
Yet more disrespect to our great club.

On radio today, they were discussing Chelsea and the FA Cup draw. The presenters said that the Cup is between Liverpool and Man City and then went on to add that Chelsea had a favourable draw against Leicester and the only easier possible games would be against either Wolves or Coventry.

The other presenter did point out that Wolves had done the double over Chelsea this season but this feat was dismissed as 'lucky'. They then spoke about how good Pochettino is and how unlucky Chelsea have been.

Jas M

1.) 29 Feb 2024 16:24:58
Frankly if its talksport I'm surprised fans of clubs outside the so called big six listen, particularly Wolves, regularly on this forum there seems to be a moan about us. Most talks radio needs controversy to drive ratings, the best thing to do is turn off if you don't like the content.


2.) 29 Feb 2024 21:10:00
i stopped listening to pointless TalkCrap a long time ago. It only exists to provoke reactions and generate controversy. The vocal version of clickbait looking for a response.

Last night I thought the BBC presentation of our match was very poor I can only assume they have cut back on staff. Commentary was ok and also the summariser but outside of that there was nothing. No pre or post match chat or interviews before or after. The BBC website was the same. Before the game team selections only came up around half an hour before kick off for all the games, very slow tbh. Anyway moan over atleast they showed the game.

Whilst the draw haas been as good as we could get one thing struck me that should we beat Coventry I hope we avoid City for Doyles sake. It would be a tragedy for the lad on consecutive years to miss a Wembley game because of the loan rules.


3.) 01 Mar 2024 02:56:10
Yesterday Darren Bent and Andy Goldstein had a piece about how good Gary O'Neill is on TalkSport.

Simon Jordan is also a big fan of Gary.


 

 

28 Feb 2024 20:07:57
Buonanotte likes to dive around doesn't he. He reminds me of Jack Grealish with all that play acting.

Jas M

1.) 28 Feb 2024 21:58:45
He should've been booked 1st half jas, he was shoving and play acting so much. I thought either him or doyle would lose it and get red. Still we're through, but it was backs against the wall abit. Should have been 2 up if S Beuno had put it in instead of across. Solid defending but hard work. Bring on the sky blues, they won't be a walk over though, far from it.


 

 

25 Feb 2024 19:39:21
Some people are never happy.

We won. We didn't play well but we won. That's it. Objective met.

Jas M

1.) 25 Feb 2024 22:06:44
Had my appendix removed today, had some pain since Friday and got it checked today. 12 hours later and no more appendix. Missed the game but at least I’ve got something to watch while being stuck in hospital over night. Thank you wolves for making my day a bit brighter and of course thank you nhs.


2.) 26 Feb 2024 02:41:02
People forget, this time last year we would lose matches like that.


3.) 26 Feb 2024 05:42:56
Get yer self better goatmark, it'll be more exciting Wednesday so don't go bursting any stitches. Get well soon pal.


4.) 26 Feb 2024 06:24:06
3 points, 8th.pretty damn good!


5.) 26 Feb 2024 06:58:05
All the best for speedy and safe recovery Goatmark.

My brother told me Sheffield United were really poor and we sank down to their level.
I guess this happens but we won that's the main thing also my bro had time out with company as he gets on with fans sitting next to and around him so all in all a win win.


6.) 26 Feb 2024 09:03:42
OK now. 3 points in the bag, but winning ugly stretches the nerves. Good points above and like one comment here, in the future records show 3 points and a win. Not how poor it all was. Now for Wednesday.


7.) 26 Feb 2024 11:07:16
So if I don't watch the replay, then I don't see proof that we played poor and I'll stay happy with the 3 points. :)


8.) 26 Feb 2024 12:21:03
DON'T watch the replay newjersey and save the frustration. 3 points, 8th place, say no more.


9.) 26 Feb 2024 13:04:03
Hope your feeling better soon goatmark
You will feel loads better when we beat Brighton,
Three points in the bag, performance
Not good at times, everyone's allowed an off day, could av been worse ." Always look on the bright side of life "
Wolves. We are family


10.) 26 Feb 2024 13:38:57
The players may have been saving themselves subconsciously for better games ahead Brighton and woo hay man (geordies) lol.


11.) 26 Feb 2024 14:47:34
Sounds like it might have been my appendix bursting if I had watched the game Abbey. A few stitches would be worth the sacrifice if we win Wednesday though.
Nice one Phil, heading home shortly for the 6 weeks recovery. A nice short stay in hospital thank god.


12.) 26 Feb 2024 15:27:01
I hope recovery goes well Goatmark!


13.) 26 Feb 2024 18:57:37
Get well soon Goatmark.


14.) 27 Feb 2024 11:50:20
Thanks everyone. Getting better by the day.


 

 

19 Feb 2024 23:26:08
Garth Crooks must be ill. He's named two, yes TWO Wolves players in his Team of the Week.

Jas M

1.) 20 Feb 2024 02:49:42
Neto over Sterling all day.


2.) 20 Feb 2024 06:04:50
Tony cascarino names Gomez and Dawson in his prem team of week.


 

 

17 Feb 2024 17:23:20
We were superb today.

It just goes to show that if a team is willing to play football, we are more than a match for them.

Now all GON has to do if figure out how to play against the anti footballing teams like Brentford and Palace and we'll soon be flying even higher.

If anyone from the big 6 had made the run and assist that Neto did for the winning goal, we'd never hear the end of it. If he is sold, £100m minimum.

Jas M

1.) 17 Feb 2024 17:43:15
Just seen it jas, the radio commentary didn't do it the acclaim it warrants. It'll be interesting to see what the crispman and others say about it tonight, probably poor defending by the London lads!. Seriously, you have to marvel at his speed and sight. At the moment he's priceless.


2.) 17 Feb 2024 17:48:48
Wow just wow! Thought we'd have a chance today. We were absolutely on it today listened to it on the Wolves app. Didn't do much for my recent diagnosis of Heart Failure but I'm happy to risk it for a season or two! They are so together as a team hope the find the way to break down Sheffield United next week, they are the ones we struggle with. The goal highlights are up on Sky well worth a watch! COYW


3.) 17 Feb 2024 17:50:20
Fantastic result and you bang on Jas as you have always being saying.


4.) 17 Feb 2024 18:16:08
Well said Jas. With Neto in our team, I reckon we are the best counter attacking side in the country. Well done Wolves.


5.) 17 Feb 2024 18:16:12
Absolutely fantastic result today and well deserved. It could and probably should have been more. All credit to GON and the players as we are playing as a team.
Now the difficult task which has eluded several Wolves managers of how to beat teams struggling at the bottom and content in settling for a point and disrupting the flow of the game.


6.) 17 Feb 2024 18:17:17
I wish you well Ken.


7.) 17 Feb 2024 18:37:48
Lostcity. Thank you, I'm just old. I'm not going anywhere when we're playing this well! ?


8.) 17 Feb 2024 18:50:21
Watched the match on Peacock proper end to end stuff we were incredible.


 

 

 

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23 Feb 2024 06:16:34
They are discussing Neto to Arsenal on Talksport this morning. Very disrespectful saying Wolves should consider themselves lucky to get an offer of £50m and he's not worth £80m.

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18 Feb 2024 14:08:36
Many of our players may indeed be wanted, however we are in a strong position as most of them have at least 2 years left on their contract so any interested clubs will have to pay top dollar.

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13 Feb 2024 22:06:26
So it's fair to say that you've started an argument with you original post. I mean, you haven't put that you think he may leave. You've been very matter of fact about it.

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13 Feb 2024 14:20:46
I might have missed something. Who's arguing?

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13 Feb 2024 07:55:36
I love how the press are always linking Neto to Arsenal but seem to forget 2 major issues.

1st: Who will he replace? Saka on the right or Martinelli on the left? What happens to Smith Rowe, Trossard and Marquinhos?

2nd: They couldn't afford to buy Raya due to FFP concerns hence loaning him for the season. I think they've agreed a fee of £60m for him but surely they'll look for a striker as they're top priority.

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01 Mar 2024 14:58:20
Sa, Kilman, Dawson, Toti, Semedo, AIT, Mario, Gomes, Doyle, Neto, Sarabia.

I think he'll play Doyle behind Sarabia and Neto who will be allowed to interchange but play a bit narrower than usual.

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28 Feb 2024 20:51:11
Everton and Forest breached FFP rules. Man City have been accused of Fraud that's why it's taking so much longer.

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25 Feb 2024 15:38:26
Not the best performance from us today but a massive 3 points.

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25 Feb 2024 12:25:33
We've proved against Chelsea x 2, Spurs x 2, Man City, Villa, Newcastle that we can compete with anyone who wants to go toe to toe with us and play attacking football. Even against Liverpool (1st half) and Arsenal (2nd half) we more than matched them.

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25 Feb 2024 11:22:05
Wilder will set them up in a defensive formation so that they frustrate us and try to hit us on the counter attack.

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