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15 Dec 2024 11:27:26
Looks like Gary ONeil has gone according to TalkSport
1.) 15 Dec 2024 11:59:27
He’s gone good riddance let’s hope fosun have learnt they lesson now
2.) 15 Dec 2024 12:25:58
Yeah E+S tweeted it.
15 May 2024 12:33:22
Saying on X that Che Adams in advanced talks to join Wolves on a free.
1.) 15 May 2024 13:20:32
Saw that 47Vintage. What do you think?
Personally I think if he’s free and can score goals we’ll take him!
2.) 15 May 2024 14:24:33
I'm not sure if he'd be the first choice forwrd, but he would add depth and he has exp.
3.) 15 May 2024 14:26:24
Agree. He’s 27 with Premier experience If we can get him on a free it’s a no brainer as they say
4.) 15 May 2024 15:44:46
Good player. I decent target man with Premier League experience.
5.) 15 May 2024 15:44:47
Seriously underrated player, with decent service he'll score goals.
6.) 15 May 2024 15:54:54
On a free he would be a great addition to the squad which needs more depth. Wouldn't be my first choice if money was no object but we need to cut our cloth etc etc.
7.) 15 May 2024 15:56:12
I've championed Che Adams would be a good signing for us for a fairly longtime now.
Was star player for Birmingham and had run down fro work colleagues.
Took a fair while for him to settle in the Premier but came a decent Premier player with quality.
A bargain on free transfer.
8.) 15 May 2024 17:52:01
If its a free it's not a high risk transfer, let's see what happens we certainly need experienced squad players. Sure the guys not a prolific striker but 1 in 5 in 125 games is OK for a backup player on a free.
9.) 16 May 2024 06:58:01
Interesting that clearly Mendes and Wolves looking to finally ship out Shi's "wonder boy".
Several sources saying several Clubs ie AC Milan, Sevilla and Real Betis as well as Bologna are claimed to be interested.
Apparently price tag is €20million.
Good luck with that!
10.) 16 May 2024 07:38:38
same player that give us the finger
11.) 16 May 2024 07:44:32
we need a statement from the owners their ambition for the club if any when was there a lick of paint jeff shi needs to be moved
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14 Nov 2024 18:52:49
Makes me smile, Harry Kane moaning about players withdrawing from the England squad. Surely a bigger concern are the players returning to their clubs with injuries. Yet another disruption to the Prem this weekend, beginning to lose count. All to do with UEFA extending teams over the past few years and introducing a new competition . No wonder players get burnt out! Sorry Harry but less internationals would be the solution.
1.) 15 Nov 2024 02:33:13
3 international breaks and only 11 games in, there is no need for this Nations league.
2.) 15 Nov 2024 08:57:21
Itsnot about football as a game anymore though, is it?.
3.) 15 Nov 2024 13:24:22
As you say RKO and Abbey
4.) 15 Nov 2024 14:21:15
So right Abbey.finance first, entertainment second and football a poor third.
5.) 15 Nov 2024 14:37:53
Agreed. All about money. More games = more TV = more money.
6.) 16 Nov 2024 11:20:00
I take a different view, folks. To my mind, the Nations League is actually a recent tinkering that works because it has by and large done away with all those nonsensical friendlies we had to endure and pitches like for like in terms of ability and teams like Gibraltar and San Marino can find that they can actually win a game. As for England, it would be a good test if only we hadn't been relegated!
7.) 16 Nov 2024 13:19:48
I agree Old wulf, although clearly it was a test that England failed miserably hence getting relegated.
8.) 16 Nov 2024 13:22:40
Van nisteroy is applying for the Coventry job to be honest I’d like him to have a crack at the wolves job
9.) 16 Nov 2024 23:18:23
Totally disagree Old Wolf. An unnecessary and meaningless competition that heightens the risk of players injuries and severely disrupts the season. As pointed out the 3rd international break in 11 games and players already complaining of burn out?
10.) 16 Nov 2024 23:20:11
Think you’ll find we had less friendly breaks before this completion was introduced.
11.) 17 Nov 2024 21:20:08
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one 47.The competitive nature of the competition has brought several more players into the England fold which farcical friendlies are most unlikely to do.Meaningless in your opinion but not everyone's.
24 Oct 2024 14:35:04
Perhaps Kavanagh could explain the awarding of a free kick on the edge of our box and turning down a free kick to us in very similar circumstances in the 93rd minute. Referees should be made accountable and not protected from criticism by this mafia like organisation.
1.) 25 Oct 2024 06:47:40
Yes 47vintage, very little as been said about Guedes being brought down, slipping or falling over. I don't know which because no replay was shown by tv at the time and I havnt seen any replay, I slow mo, zoomed in, freeze framed or stills.
It looked a foul when it happened but there we are, obviously not worthy of comment!
24 Oct 2024 14:29:21
Matt Hobbs being charged with misconduct towards match officials after Sundays game. So they are the Untouchables? They can go on making dubious and incorrect decisions that impact on the club and players alike but consider themselves above any reproach. I'd personally sue the bastards for financial losses caused by their sheer incompetence or maybe something even more worrying
1.) 24 Oct 2024 18:46:53
Wolves brought the whole VAR ineptitude to the table in the close season. The other 19 clubs voted to keep it. That decision appears to have given the Match Official impunity to do anything they want safe in the knowledge that the option to take action has passed and no one can do anything about it. The question now is how much influence the bigger clubs have.
It is obvious to all that we challenged the PL, FA and PGMOL and we are being punished as a result.
As I said the other day, Mikel Arteta called the ref a cheat and although charged by the FA, he was found not guilty. Gary O'Neil will definitely be found guilty. It's a given.
VAR has ruined football due to the corruption. Howard Webb has a lot to answer but he won't go against his paymasters.
2.) 24 Oct 2024 23:37:27
I very much agree with what you say Wandering apart from our punishment has now been going on for the past six years.
3.) 25 Oct 2024 15:44:37
Maybe it's just a lack of defensive skills.
21 Oct 2024 12:20:12
I've watched Refwatch with Stephen Warnock explaining that Silva backing into Jose Sa to move him back/putting him off balance is legal within the laws of the game. I've now read the following: A foul should only be called when a player from the opposing team illegally prevents the goalkeeper from touching the ball or blatantly impedes their movement, either by pushing, grabbing or running into them. Now I don't profess to be an expert on the laws of the game but I would suggest Warnock is talking out of his ar%!
1.) 21 Oct 2024 13:44:52
Sa should have fell to the floor when Silva backed into him.
Wonder what VAT would have made of it if he had.
City are a good team.A team of winners but they use every trick in the book and when they also get all the 50-50 decisions it’s no wonder they have a long unbeaten run.
2.) 21 Oct 2024 13:59:25
Every team should employ this tactic. See how long it remains legal.
Just have a forward bump onto the goalie a second before the ball reaches the box.
3.) 21 Oct 2024 14:32:32
Arsenal are notorious for this tactic against keepers. No prizes for guessing where Arteta picked up the idea! At his previous club! Out and out dirty tricks from the big boys, but only they get away with it.
4.) 21 Oct 2024 14:38:53
VAT ?
5.) 21 Oct 2024 14:42:19
Jesus! Sa is 6.4 and Silva is 5.8! Sa should of smashed him out the way, we failed to defend a corner (and not for the first time this season!)which was a well drilled set piece, something our coaching staff seem to be lacking!
6.) 21 Oct 2024 15:14:38
OOTD. Sa should have smashed Silva out of the way? Against the likes of City that's a yellow card and a penalty all day long. They're the Untouchables. Anyway, height has nothing to do with it.
7.) 21 Oct 2024 16:17:31
I wonder what Howard Webbs views are. He explained the rule last season when Kilmans header was disallowed so what has changed since then?
8.) 21 Oct 2024 16:49:38
Watching the replay it's hard to disagree OOTD. Silva was on Sa for every corner and Sa didn't make his presence felt on any of those occasions.
9.) 21 Oct 2024 17:05:13
And if Sa had smashed him out of the way it would have been a pen. GON is absolutely right, there is a VERY blatant subconscious bias in the Prem and it's one of the many reason I am falling out of love with footy! It's one rule for the top four and another for everyone else! ?
10.) 21 Oct 2024 17:40:42
If there is subconscious bias, why did Saliba get sent off against Bournemouth, surely Arsenal are big hitters ( no disrespect to Bournemouth). Let's Stop clutching a straws, at 1 point in the game Sa even pulls the ear of his Portugal team mate and has a laugh about it! Use your size and presence and defend your area!
11.) 21 Oct 2024 17:58:47
White does exactly the same for Arsenal at every corner time it was stopped or keepers going down to get a foul. Cheat the cheaters!
12.) 21 Oct 2024 19:03:14
Let's remember the ref did disallow it for offside, var overuled because silva was crouching away, so not in Sa's eyeline. No arguments there as such, but if VAR are doing they're job correctly they've reviewed the 'infringement' of silver butting into Sa and ok'd it. I still believe it to have been foul play in preventing our keeper preparing. They don't tolerate a lot of pushing and grabbing of shirts before corners/free kicks and I thought keepers were supposed to be protected. Nah, they missed it and simply looked at off side, it was too late when it was finally seen. No conspiracy but another case of now hurried decisions and inadequacy, and, lack of consistency.
13.) 21 Oct 2024 19:53:05
Abbey, the issue isn't with the technology VAR works, the issue is with the subjectivity of those who operate, there is no bias or subconscious decisions, without VAR at all on Sunday the goal would have stood, play the game, defend set pieces, don't concede possession and score goals!
VAR is here to stay the best league in the world (premier) are not going to get rid of something that FIFA and EUFA are operating and the club executives showed their complete and utter niavity last year by bringing the motion to the AGM.
Lets stop bemoaning it and using it as an excuse for bad defending!
I said it earlier, nearly a quarter of the season has gone, we are bottom with 1 point, and not even the nice words from Jack Grealish make a shred of difference, something needs to happen and it needs to happen now!
14.) 21 Oct 2024 21:13:57
OOTD if you read my comments yesterday you'd know I wasn't bemoaned VAR as a tool, but the operators who form the decisions. It has been proven to to be fallible from that point of view, and not in wolves games either.
I merely refer to what I would deem an infringement on the keeper, yesterday it was Sa, which hinder them from assuming a fair position for the cross that is foul play. I don't think the VAR review was looked at further than the header and positions at that time, and when it may of been realised it was too late.
We know the position we're in, we know how poorly we've defended, read some posts from the Brentford game, but one week a decision goes one way the next the other, its complacency that's lacking and interpretations by said VAR reviewers that give rise to conspiracies. It's not hard to see why. No excuses OOTD but I don't enjoy being defeated under a question mark, you seem to be overly pleased to pour salt on things?.
15.) 21 Oct 2024 22:26:24
OOTD, the obvious decisions will always be made such as the Saliba red cards. The subconscious decisions that GON is referring to is the 50/50 ones that are sometimes given and sometimes aren't.
For instance, Kilmans goal against West Ham last season. It wasn't given and Howard Webb said on the TV it was because Chirewa was stood in front of the GK therefore impeding his view and not offside.
So what was the difference to yesterday's goal? Silva wasn't offside but he did push Sa backwards as the ball was crossed in therefore impeding play.
16.) 22 Oct 2024 05:33:11
OOTD, the goal would not have stood. The onfield decision was to disallow it. Therefore if there's no VAR goal stands.
17.) 22 Oct 2024 11:23:42
Fair enough OOTD, that's your opinion. My opinion is that the subconscious bias in football is pretty blatant and if our own manager is even calling it out when it's likely to land him in trouble then he clearly thinks so as well. Hang on though, it can't land him in trouble can it? Cause we all know that Arteta has previously accused refs of cheating and Pool have even threatened to not play a game because of decisions agaisnt them and in both cases no action was taken agaisnt there managers. So if there's no bias then we can expect no further action on Grays comments, right?! Haha let's just see how that plays out shall we and I will be happy to discuss bias with you again AFTER we've been fined! ?
I don't know why people act like this is a new thing, it became a running joke in the 90s that playing at Old Trafford meant playing the ref as well. Was it because the refs supported United, of course not! It's because Ferguson would spend the whole week BEFORE a big match talking about the refs decisions and how important they were. In short he ensured that every time a ref blew his whistle at United he would be terrified not to upset Alex and get scolded after. And it worked incredibly well, so well in fact that Jose (and others have always adopted a similar approach). It's worked for years and isn't a new thing, so not entirely sure why anyone is acting like they've never heard of this before?! ?
18.) 22 Oct 2024 13:28:06
Bully, I agree with you on the fergie time, we all remember that. But fergie and arteta, pep, klop, mourinho, and countless more are empowered strong individuals who are backed by strong clubs that want to be winners and will use everything at their disposal to achieve that aim!
VAR is open to the fact, that humans are by their very nature subjective
and will be swayed, but that's not going to change!
We can argue that the game was lost in the last 20 seconds by an undefended header or a dodgy VAR decision, or we failed at a set piece yet again, we had limited possession, we gave the ball away to easy and we didn't create enough chances!
I am not trying to rub salt in the wounds as abbey has said, it's quite obvious at the moment the team isn't good enough! We have played Liverpool, city, vile, nufc, chelski, who were all under par Arsenal were just above average and we couldn't take advantage, Brentford was a shambles and we were lucky at forest!
What will the excuse be next week, the ball was to round, the grass to green, the lines to white, the pitch to rectangular or the seats in the dugout had no heating in them and that's really unfair because our coaching staff keep their football brains in their arse!
19.) 23 Oct 2024 08:10:28
OOTD, I'm not making any excuses, we are what we are, but we also need a fair crack of the whip, a consistent approach. The VAR decisions aren't exclusive to wolves, the mistakes occur regularly, and its human interpretation of human written rules that cause problems. Offside fore example, 'not interfering with play', 'not obstructing an eye line', who decides? Not the ref on the pitch seeing and hearing in real time close/r to the action. No a detached observer in slow motion freeze frame silence. The benefit of doubt will be given in a way which must have some level of 'weight'.
No matter how badly we've played, defended, naive we've been it's no excuse to expect to be treated fairly. I will reiterate my comments of the infringement on Sa, the FA have not mentioned that aspect in the VAR decision, only stating the offside/eyeline factors.
VAR as a technology can work but as normal its human 'choice' that causes problems. I ask you this, do you think there would be this uproar about the incident if the goal had indeed been disallowed? I don't think so because it would not have been regarded so contentious.
20.) 23 Oct 2024 08:32:41
Ps, meant to add, although pepe would have been moaning with little if any question or action from the FA.
Forget the football skill side of things OOTD, do you personally think wolves have been subject to questionable VAR operators choices?
21.) 23 Oct 2024 09:39:00
Abbey, I think all teams have been subjected to questionable VAR decisions, as I said that's not going to change because of the human factor, we just have to suck up it and get on with it!
But what can be changed is the fight on the pitch, we concede at will, we struggle to hold possession and when we do it's sideways and backwards, we take the lead and don't have the fitness to close a game out, we don't close down the opposition, we don't stay with runners, we don't prevent crosses! But do we address this No we moan about a decision that's out of our control!
Let's start by controlling the controlables! Because if we don't keep our eye on the here and now, we are going down ?!
22.) 23 Oct 2024 11:18:43
Yes OOTD, on pitch problems are ours and GON etc now seem to recognise that. There's never been a question over that.
VAR however is a different beast, so let's see how the FA address the problem.
Instead of staunchly jumping on the back of 'interpreted' laws why don't they make them clear and obvious, uncontentionable so that VAR can help the ref not intervene unless they've missed an off the ball situation, maybe like silva's push back? As I said before they'll spot shirt tugs and arms in the area.
VAR is not the magic some would have it be, a picture speaks a thousand words as seen from different viewers.
No I'm not making excuses for our form, but some people, for whatever reasons, want to excuse VAR.
At the end of the day VARs decision can cost money, possibly status. We lose by our short comings, I'm not happy when it can appear that it's being taken out of our hands.
07 Oct 2024 16:31:54
Shock news coming out of Molineux. Wolves have parted ways with their set piece coach Jack Wilson. Now why on earth would they want to do that I wonder? ??
1.) 07 Oct 2024 16:54:22
Seriously he joined from Man City in the summer. We’ve conceded 5 so far from set pieces and yet to score from one. How did he last this long?
2.) 07 Oct 2024 16:59:39
Haha, I'm not surprised at all as I have said MANY times on here we have definitely got worse since he arrived! Again though it does beg the question as to who's hire was he Gary's or Jeff's?! Either way if they have any sense they will now go all out to bring Keith Andrews home, he's currently working miracles at Brentford! COYWs ?
3.) 07 Oct 2024 17:54:12
Interesting, looking at his CV his recent roles have been as a performance analyst, at Man City his role seems to have been analysing set pieces. I'm not sure how that differs from coaching set pieces but it looks like someone in a role that he wasn't really suited to.
4.) 07 Oct 2024 18:01:24
Now that would be an excellent move Bullysboy.
5.) 07 Oct 2024 20:38:19
So Wilson has been with the club since the summer coaching the set pieces and during all that time O'Neil and his staff went along with what he was coaching and putting it in to practice on the pitch without question? Or they simply ignored what he was coaching and used their own set piece routines? and now they sake him when the s*"t hits the fan as a scape goat and so the pantomime goes on! Whatch out pinnoock is behind you! Oh you didn't see the 6.4" defender, what a joke
6.) 07 Oct 2024 21:49:29
Fosun just found a scapegoat. For a while, had to be seen as doing something, untill they have the guts to sack oniell, the longer it goes on the harder it will become, in staying in the prem, at this rate we will be lucky to get to ten points by Xmas,
Then it will be a forgone conclusion,
7.) 08 Oct 2024 06:47:17
We had got 10 points from 15 games when Jlo came in.I doubt we will even have that this season!
8.) 08 Oct 2024 10:02:26
Fosun are business people so when it comes to firing people I suspect they won't lose any sleep over it and I can't honestly believe they'll sleep walk into the championship unless owning a football club is not fashionable enough for them anymore and they'll sell after cashing in on our more valuable players. If GON is laying blame at the set piece specialist is he not there during training, watching the games and let's not forget defensively we were poor last season before this guy arrived. We need a change of coaching staff now to try and salvage something from this season before it's too late. A coach with fresh ideas, someone to rejuvenate and assess this squad before the January transfer window. I just doesn't make sense than Fosun would want to lose the millions sloshing around in the PL for the pittance by comparison in the Championship.
9.) 08 Oct 2024 10:30:38
It's a sinking ship blackfords, do fosun care now? Have we been too lenient because of what they did do for us, what they promised us?, because it can't go on.
We've had mixed messages over finances and the need to sell off our prized players. We've been told that the club isn't for us if we want success.
We've seen a distinct shortfall in planning and squad recruitment.
Yes they've invested in young promising players who if given the chance will bring in more cash when sold, we're like a budget store relying on loss leaders in order to make the big bucks. We won't last long at this rate, so we'll drop from the high st. to the back lanes and fosun will toddle off with a little credit in the history books for getting us to the prem, but a bigger entry for ruining a once famous club. I'm stunned by it all at the moment.
10.) 08 Oct 2024 13:38:33
The zonal marking failed hugely, it was clear defending set pieces caused us lots of issues, That being said the whole defensive system
Seems to be non existent this season.
12 Dec 2024 20:12:49
Local man certainly but never seen anything saying he’s a Wolves fan infact I think he turned us down in the past. Tell you what, why not get Terry Connor back!?
12 Dec 2024 09:49:39
Well Wandering if its true that these managers have turned us down and not just fake news that’s doing the rounds let’s hope Gary doesn’t decide he’s had enough and quits because we really would be up rubbish creek without a paddle!
Cast your mind back a few years when they tried to replace Mick and no one wanted it.
10 Dec 2024 20:37:35
Think Mr Guangchang himself is controlled by the Government in Beijing. All the other Chinese owners have packed up and gone. Plans for a Chinese super league gone. Investment dried up. Isn’t that telling us something? As Bullysboy has tried to tell you for the umpteenth time Jeff Shi is a mouthpiece, just a little cog in a vast, Government controlled organisation.
12 Oct 2024 23:31:22
No thanks but really what is the point of this speculation. Exactly what qualities could Solskjaer bring to our club? Oh I see must be somebody who’s out of work. Personally I’d get behind Gary until Fosun decide otherwise.
03 Sep 2024 13:13:49
A little ungracious. Thought Podence did a reasonable job and netted some vital goals but very frustrating the way he always tried to over complicate moves and ended up losing the ball. Think Podence is no different to most players in chasing money where they can. The days of loyalty have long since gone.
08 Jan 2025 15:45:22
Good riddance! Hope that’s the last we see of him
07 Jan 2025 10:37:29
I was 17 at the time but still remember the same bull that tried to justify the sacking of Stan Cullis. Massive consequences.
06 Jan 2025 18:57:30
Anyone know why Semedos absent?
23 Dec 2024 15:36:03
Just read your post Abbeywolf. Hope you are making a speedy recovery mate.
15 Dec 2024 18:50:42
Yes good to see our old striker screw it up for City! I refer to him as a striker as that’s what he did?