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24 Jul 2024 18:54:04
Eds can you confirm if Aini Nori has a buy out clause at 45 mill Euros because I have never known Wolves to do that before. And if so Wolves are going to loose a lot of money in any transfer unless they get him to sign deal on better wages without the buy out clause.
{Ed002's Note - There is no elease clause listed in the TMS but a significant sell on clause in favour or Anger, which Wolves could try to buy out from them.
1.) 26 Jul 2024 06:57:18
Thank you.
12 Jul 2024 09:48:36
According to transfer centre Wolves have rejected a bid from marsellie for Hwang doesn't say how much.
1.) 12 Jul 2024 10:47:27
Some reports are saying £21m
2.) 12 Jul 2024 13:20:11
30 mil and I will drive him there myself
3.) 12 Jul 2024 13:36:11
East Midlands not enough to sell Wolvesshould be looking at 30 plus mill.
4.) 12 Jul 2024 14:12:01
Don't rate Hwang as much as Wolves do, get 25 mill. and I think a real good deal.
5.) 12 Jul 2024 14:29:35
Problem is, he is a GOOD footballer buts BRILLIANT marketing asset.
6.) 12 Jul 2024 16:10:52
Put him down all you like, he scores goals. When healthy.
7.) 12 Jul 2024 16:14:27
I rate Hwang in this GON team, if it had of been Bruno Lage's team I'd say take the money.
8.) 12 Jul 2024 16:19:35
Hwang has hardly ever put in a bad performance. While he was injured he was certainly missed. Who would we buy for £20 million that would be as good?
9.) 12 Jul 2024 18:39:46
He is a class finisher. One of the best we have. He needs to stay unless it’s stupid money.
10.) 13 Jul 2024 10:26:37
He puts in a fair few poor performances goggs but knows where the net is and that's a very valuable and important asset.
11.) 13 Jul 2024 23:36:14
I've not always been Hwangs biggest fan but those saying they would drive him there need to take a long look at the goals spread in our team! In all comps Cunha first with 14 and Hwang second with 13, the guy scored almost a quarter of our Prem league goals! While your looking at that Prem league scorers chart also just ask yourself how many of those names on there (even those below Hwang) could we realistically sign for £30m?! Thank goodness the club are paying more attention than some of the fans, if we sell those goals aren't going to be easy or cheap to replace. Cunha scored one more goal than him and is now looking like a steal at £43m! Goal scorers (generally) ain't cheap and neither should ours be! COYW ?
12.) 14 Jul 2024 06:52:30
More good sense again Bully's.
13.) 14 Jul 2024 11:07:57
If it wasnt for the asia cup and then injury he'd have scored 20prem goals last ssn making him worth 50mil
14.) 14 Jul 2024 11:31:03
BB- snap!
Cunha had 19 premier league goal contributions but only played 70% of the time.
Hwang 15 in 60% and Neto 13 in 40%. If, and I accept it is a big if, all 3 had been fit/available all year where would we have ended up? Far higher than we did! So why break up what is obviously a v good thing, (surely better to supplement it - as we have with Larsen and Gomes {R})? Particularly for pennies, cf the prices other teams demand/achieve for their players, (look at the number of totally unproven premier league players moving for double digit millions already this summer and the suggested levels others like Arsenal are seeking for their reserves!)
Note how much money you lose if you get relegated and spend a mere season out of the Prem.
The risk of selling your better players surely isn't worth it?
15.) 14 Jul 2024 15:48:16
Correct as always Old and TFG old buddies ? I am starting to get the impression that one or two fans on here REALLY don't seem to get how precariously balanced the goals in this sqaud are?! We really aren't in a strong position to let any of our best attacking players go. For example if we lost Neto and Hwang (as some are suggesting) then we've lost half our goals with no guaranteed way to replace them?! As I keep saying one or two really need to recalibrate and be careful what they are wishing for! A pleasure to see ya on here as always TFG fella, ??
16.) 14 Jul 2024 17:10:02
Apart from Channy’s goals, I reckon the one big reason he won’t be sold, is where he comes from- Korea. That market, Asia, is one that Fosun have been doing a hell of a lot to promote the club, the Wolves image, the ‘one pack’ idea. Have you seen the queue of Korean/Asian fans, standing in line outside the South Bank after every game, just waiting for Channy to come out to see them, speak to them, sign autographs and have photos taken. He is a marketing dream for Fosun.
10 Jul 2024 13:55:27
According to reports Olympiarcas don't know about the spelling want podence but only want to pay between 6-8 mii. We paid 17 mill he's just scored 14 goals and assisted 14 surely he's worth mone than that 20 to 15 mill we should be looking for.
1.) 10 Jul 2024 15:14:01
i am sorry to see him go wolf
2.) 10 Jul 2024 15:42:26
It depends on his book value to some degree he signed in January 2020 so he can't have long left on his contract surely.
3.) 10 Jul 2024 15:44:05
Podence has 12 months left on his contract. Maybe this plays a part in their valuation.
4.) 10 Jul 2024 17:12:52
I thought although his contract end in summer 2025, but we also have an option for a further year. I'd assume his value on the books is now 0, as the fee would have been depreciated over the term of the original contract.
5.) 10 Jul 2024 18:42:40
The club activated the 1 year option last season.
6.) 10 Jul 2024 19:07:55
He's in Marbella with the squad so who knows, will he stay or will he go
7.) 10 Jul 2024 19:59:18
This was the wording on the Wolves site last September "The loan comes alongside the news that Podence has signed new terms with Wolves until 2025, with the option for a further year’s extension, protecting the Old Gold in the future."
8.) 11 Jul 2024 13:36:24
I would love him to stay and fight for a place in the team.but I guess we will sell if the offer is right.
9.) 12 Jul 2024 07:53:22
Would rather he went. Divides opinion amongst staff and I think he is equally divisive amongst players.
If, and I would have him over any other names being mentioned, we want Murillo, from Nottingham Forest, we can use Podence as a ‘third party’ sweetener, by letting him go back to Olympiacos on loan. We would have to pay big bucks for Murillo or player exchange plus money. Who would Nuno want that we would be willing to release.
Murillo would completely transform our defence and add the bonus of carrying the ball out from the back with real conviction. Think we could operate a back four with him in the team, if that is something we wanted to do.
Don’t think he is on huge wages, so we would have to make him amongst our highest paid.
03 Jul 2024 16:51:54
According to rumours Ain't Nori has a 45mill release clause which I find strange as no Wolves player that I know of has ever had one and that seems to under value him big style.
03 Jul 2024 13:58:37
Eds can I ask a question have we paid the full amount for Ain't Nori or if we sell we have to pay fifty percent of the sale price can't remember who we bought him of.
{Ed002's Note - Wolves agreed to a 50% sell on clause of any profit they made. They had an option to buy this lause out but that opportunity elapsed. He played previously for Angers.}
1.) 03 Jul 2024 15:36:17
Thank you didn't know it had a clause in Wolves should have paid the extra because now its going to cost them if they sell
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24 Jul 2024 17:20:14
Here's a question if things go well in the USA and GON likes Guedes plus persuades Podence to stay. Plus another striker and CH would
people be happy I would.
1.) 24 Jul 2024 19:30:27
We just don't know what's gone on in the past. Guedes never wanted to be here in the 1st place but if he is prepared to knuckle down, then there is a decent player in there somewhere.
2.) 24 Jul 2024 20:02:50
Think people are already happy and looking forward to the new season Wolf 123.
Don’t think Podence will be here.
Guedes could have something to offer.
Don’t really need a CH as we have Toti Dawson Mosquera and Santi and GON is maybe looking to go to a back four.
3.) 25 Jul 2024 07:19:43
We know Dawson is good enough to play in a back four but the jury is out on the others. Toti is improving but still prone to positional errors, Santi needs to beef up and I'm sure we'd all like to see Mosquera play so that we can properly judge and assess him. Fingers crossed he's the answer
4.) 25 Jul 2024 10:26:40
Yerson had abit of a history discipline wise I believe and whereas I like no nonsense solid defending it's no help if he's suspended for spells. Toti as improved but needs his awareness to be abit sharper. I like Santi but he does goabout his business quietly. Matt is fine, but remember his age and expecttheodd injuries. I still think another experienced CB will be needed.
5.) 25 Jul 2024 16:38:12
Craig…. Matt was a rugby player. I’ve done the same in the past.
6.) 25 Jul 2024 17:43:19
Spotted goatmark, I'm always doing that duh!
21 Jul 2024 14:50:59
What does everyone think of Guedes playing thirty minutes for Wolves against Bristol City is GON trying to reintergrat him back in the Wolves squad.
1.) 21 Jul 2024 15:50:19
Might help with his fitness and also put him into the shop window.
2.) 21 Jul 2024 16:02:54
No chance, the guys made it VERY clear he doesn't want to be in the country. It will be to give peeps a chance to scout/see he's fit I suspect. We should never have signed someone who SO clearly didn't want to be at the club! ?
3.) 21 Jul 2024 16:19:29
well if whang and neto go that's £70 million in jeff shi piggy bank
4.) 21 Jul 2024 16:24:32
You're clearly forgetting the players that have been *bought* as well.
I suspect Fosun can do nothing right in your opinion. Here is a question have Chan or Neto been sold?
5.) 21 Jul 2024 16:31:51
Cant see hwang going or neto2be honest.guedes and podence and silva should bring in more cash.obviously we need a cb and possibly another keeper if bentley goes.theres plenty of bargains out ther instead of the inexperienced and inadequate bench we have presently.but wel be in a big mess if we don't extend at leastva few of thos coming to the end of their contracts nxt ssn
6.) 21 Jul 2024 16:45:21
123northeast where do you get that figure from as Neto is worth 60mill and Hwang is worth over 30 mill at least that's 100mill no probs bot GON will not let Hwang go Neto different story.
7.) 21 Jul 2024 17:41:04
Guedes. No chance. Just a brief opportunity to showcase his fitness. Let's get what we can. Bin him off and get someone who wants to play for Wolves.
8.) 21 Jul 2024 18:48:47
I was wondering the same about Guedes and also Hoever. Also noticed Sa didn’t play, anyone know why?
9.) 21 Jul 2024 20:06:28
Sa still on holiday after being involved with the Portugal squad.
10.) 21 Jul 2024 20:15:50
Correct me if I am wrong but Podence didn’t feature against Bristol City. That is significant, possibly signalling his imminent exit.
11.) 21 Jul 2024 20:43:27
Goatmark I think those who were part of the Euros like Sa neto samedo etc are having their hols if they want them.
12.) 21 Jul 2024 23:44:48
That makes sense Wandering Star and Abbeywolf, for some reason I had erased the whole euros thing from my mind.
13.) 22 Jul 2024 08:55:32
Does anyone know why Podence didn't get a game against Bristol?
14.) 22 Jul 2024 09:27:08
Anything to do with his sending off? Don’t really know how it works in friendlies.
15.) 22 Jul 2024 11:42:44
Think you’ll find Podence was serving a one game suspension
16.) 22 Jul 2024 12:37:53
The Jeff Shi piggy bank is overdrawn 123northst. The losses need paying back before it has funds. Might be quite a while.
17.) 22 Jul 2024 12:51:53
So if we sell Fabio and maybe Guedes and hold on to the rest have we got enough depth?
I think we would be fine if we revert to a back 4 with 4 centre backs already, loads in midfield and the addition of Larsen, Podence, Chiquinho and Rodrigo Gomes up front is far healthier.
15 Jul 2024 13:45:12
A report in the sun is saying Hwang has agreed personal terms with Marseille how true don't know. But reading other reports Hwang is really happy at Wolves and looking forward to next season.If he does go Wolves should be asking for upwards of 30 mill and if true how many other star players are going to be sold Cunha Neto Gomes surely there not going to rip the team apart if so GON walks.
1.) 15 Jul 2024 20:20:09
I've read that hwang has had personal terms agreed, most probably his agents doing, but we've not had any approach and we don't intend to sell. It's the rumours roundabout starting Wolf123.
I also see that lemina is named captain for a friendly against Como tonight.
2.) 16 Jul 2024 07:17:52
Interesting events in the friendly, which we won 1-0, where hwang was apparently racially abused and podence sent off for striking a como defender. Seems the team supported hwang and were 'comforting' him. Will this have an effect on his decisions? Was podence his 'normal' self or looking to leave us? Am I just reading too much into nothing? Guess time will tell.
3.) 16 Jul 2024 11:44:23
Can't see us letting Hwang go. Apart from the fact imo he's a good player he also has good commercial value overseas. I don't how you can put a value on that?
I like Podence too as a player, it's just his antics that let him down. This is just another example of his poor discipline and maybe trying to force the move.
4.) 16 Jul 2024 12:16:45
Podence punched the defender after he made the racist remarks about Hwang so he was sticking up for him!
5.) 16 Jul 2024 14:29:35
Yep and we were down to 10 men. We would lose a player then for 3 matches in competition and any such antics could and possibly would change the outcome of a PL game. Just a training match I know, but you need to retain your discipline. The player, Manager and captain should deal with it!
6.) 16 Jul 2024 14:56:27
When there is racism involved, yes podence should keep his head but he is backing up a player so fair play and racism should not be tolerated.
7.) 16 Jul 2024 15:10:30
No room for Racism. Full Stop. UEFA have come our and said that they can't take any action against Como as it was a friendly game so therefore not a sanctioned game.
Good on Podence for sticking up for his team mate. But I do get your point about keeping discipline but sometimes you just see the red mist.
8.) 16 Jul 2024 17:14:52
The statement from Como is a disgrace.
9.) 17 Jul 2024 10:20:43
Bucks what? Erm… no. Red cards don’t carry over that’s why UEFA won’t investigate. So if they won’t investigate because it’s not a real match then the red card wasn’t real neither.
10.) 17 Jul 2024 13:03:10
Maybe the statement is a reflection of reality and Hwang has to stop taking offense. He's a grown up.
09 Jul 2024 16:58:34
Well so far it's been a good transfer window but who does everybody think we'll sell and who do we need to buy. For me would like at least one more CH and a striker but it depends who leaves. Plus GON has stated he wants to back to four at the back so am taking Yerson plus a left footed CH.
1.) 09 Jul 2024 18:34:48
It will be interesting to see how GON sets the team up. He has been very clever with his tactics during the past season and if he does switch to a back four I would expect that he may switch between three and four at the back during different phases of the game. With Toti being well able to play at left back presumably with Ryan in front of him that would certainly make it very flexible on that side of the pitch. On the right it is likely to depend on what happens with Neto. It's going to be a very interesting start to the season with the tough start we have!
2.) 10 Jul 2024 19:10:58
Am guessing that's why we've signed Rodrigo Gomes and Lima as they can both play as a full back, wing back or winger
3.) 11 Jul 2024 11:15:15
Not really I would say they are meant to add depth which is what the team lacked last season and couldn’t cope when players got injured. Given Neto gets injured a lot …
05 Jul 2024 18:57:05
If as there reporting 40 mill for Kilman where do we need to spend that money on.And who would you like to sign. One or two CH another striker.
1.) 06 Jul 2024 08:35:44
I think we may have already spent some of it on our four signings so far.
2.) 06 Jul 2024 11:56:27
Guess there are two issues that have to be addressed before you can answer that, Wolf 123.
Firstly of course who else will be sold.
Secondly as Baza points out we have already spent some money and no one really knows what our financial situation is, i.e. can we spend anymore if we don't sell anyone else.
Assuming however that everything is sunshine and roses in the garden I would pretty much agree with you and maybe add a better back up GK if I'm really greedy.
If we still have the £40m to spend and wages aren't an issue (they will be of course), I'd say we need at least one new CB, (possibly 2 - read that the boy at Hull is a real prospect so if we have the money a punt on him at the rumoured £15-20m asking price might be interesting), and that CB needs to be a battle hardened pro hopefully prem league experienced.
I know I will be slaughtered for this but if United really are letting Maguire go for £15- £20m, (wages def would be an issue), he is exactly that and at 31 still has a few years at the top left (yes he is a top defender and the hostility towards him is way over the top and merely refelcts his status as a United player).
To go into the season with only Dawson (old and following his injuries might be on borrowed time), Yerson ( never played in the Prem and a major gamble albeit one I am hopeful on though), Bueno (looks ok as a 3rd CB in a 3 but nothing more than that) and Toti, (Great athlete and showing huge promise but still v inexperienced and often looks like Bambi on ice), would be a worry!
After that a couple of frees - yes Adams as 5th or 6th option would ok but Kele from Leicester as a free (wages?) might be even better.
Finally again caveated, as BB stated, on his aims and wages Kasper would be a major upgrade on what we have as back ups for GK.
My preference, as I have said before though, would be to sell Sa for £40m and buy the chap from Liverpool for £15 -20m ish helping financially and planning for future as he is 5 years youngers than Sa.
Almost anything that allows us to hold on to our key 5 irreplaceable players though is the way to go!
26 Jul 2024 06:57:18
Thank you.
15 Jul 2024 16:20:39
Wolfwhistle Liam Keen has reported we have no interest in Hameror the CH.
15 Jul 2024 14:07:01
Rated its on Wolves Banter
15 Jul 2024 14:04:36
Rated RKO mate put a post on just waiting on coming through about same thing.
12 Jul 2024 13:36:11
East Midlands not enough to sell Wolvesshould be looking at 30 plus mill.
26 Jul 2024 15:23:44
Fordhouse-Jack you mean like Macathy
With Johnson that worked out really well.
26 Jul 2024 07:03:34
From what I've red are wage bill is between40 and 50 mill nowhere near 160 mill.
21 Jul 2024 16:45:21
123northeast where do you get that figure from as Neto is worth 60mill and Hwang is worth over 30 mill at least that's 100mill no probs bot GON will not let Hwang go Neto different story.
18 Jun 2024 16:37:38
Wandering star never say anything till you see how the transfer widows gos we need a striker big style.
24 May 2024 19:09:14
I agree but I still think it's 80% of your income that includes transfer fees agents fees and wages are all included Edoo1's I might be wrong but I'm sure what I've said is correct.9
{Ed001's Note - to start with, it is the intention to reduce it inline with UEFA.}