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20 Feb 2025 22:10:35
Rumour on X is that Man Utd will trigger the £62.5m release fee for Cunha this summer. But let's not forget, just because a club agrees to pay the release fee, the player himself can reject the move.
1.) 21 Feb 2025 06:40:43
Wandering, I think wherever we are playing next season, he will be gone.
The best we can hope for, is there is a bidding war and we can leverage as much as we can from his transfer. Hopefully help build a decent transfer war chest for us to invest wisely (Fosun allowing).
2.) 21 Feb 2025 07:46:28
Same old record… great player sold for big bucks only for the money to disappear and for Fosun to later allow last minute panic buying of unknown players with no prem experience!
3.) 21 Feb 2025 07:53:04
I think he'll end up at Liverpool or abroad. My reasoning being, Man City have Marmoush, Haaland, Doku, Silva, Foden so don't need him. Arsenal have Saka, Trossard and Martinelli and will most likely pursue Sesko oe Sesko. Chelsea have ruined Pedro Neto and this will not have gone unnoticed by Cunha. Man Utd and Spurs cannot offer European football.
Liverpool may need to replace Jota and Salah and would seem the most obvious destination.
4.) 21 Feb 2025 08:27:11
Man u do not have the money to buy Cunha they need to sell to buy. I think a deal has been done with Arsenal and the money will cover the signings we made in the last transfer window, and Wolves have changed their accounting end of year to June from May so they avoid PSR issues. Just my opinion.
5.) 21 Feb 2025 10:17:09
Intriguing move by Wolves to push the accounting year-end to 30th June. Cunha's buyout clause is disappointingly low. I think several clubs will want to meet it. It would be in Cunha's interests if he is sold as cheaply as possible, so that he could screw his new club for as much salary as possible. If I was in charge I would have set the buyout clause at £100mil but Cunha would't have signed the contract then, for the foregoing reasons!
6.) 21 Feb 2025 19:56:45
He's not interested in joining Man Utd or Spurs apparently.
7.) 22 Feb 2025 02:40:14
Baza
I had noted that fact but didn't want to mention it as I sadly tend to agree with you and thus I would once again risk being "Thefutureis (very)bleak"
Clearly we will know the outcome of 23-24 in the next few weeks - some clubs have already reported.
But as we know the club passed PSR in 23-24 we can say that we must have broken even at worst.
Profits, (mainly losses), therefore for the last 3 years are
2021-22 -£43m
2022 -23 -£64m
2023-24 must be circa profit of £2m so that we get to a 3 year loss of no more than £105m.
How did we achieve that when pre player sales the previous year we lost well over £100m.
Well firstly we didn't sack a manager that year so perhaps our pre player sales losses did not increase from the previous year and may even have declined slightly
Secondly we sold a bucket load of talent - headlined of course by Neves, but it also included Nunes, Collins, Coady, and Jimenez etc etc.
Profits from these sales were probably in the region of £100m on their own.
However if we have moved our year end date to beyond the opening of the next transfer window we must have done it for a reason.
Perhaps we expected to sell a player in Jan, but didn't because we would be relegated if we sell another of our saleable players, (and to make matters worse actually signed 3 new players increasing both wages and amorts), then we would still need to sell at least one before the year end. This was not possible before as the market doesn't reopen until June, hence the need to move the date to the end of June.
Lets look at the numbers
Over the 3 years to 2024 -25 we need to have losses of less than £105m.
That means that
-£64m + £2m + 2024-25 loss must be below £105m, ie 2024 -25 loss must not exceed £43m.
Is it possible therefore that we are worried that this is not looking likely at the moment
A very scary statement given that we sold Kilman, Podence, Neto amongst others this year surely generating profits of over £100m.
Thus does this say that, including the pay off for GON our pre player losses have increased to more than £143m?
If that is the case not only are our accounts totally out of control but we would almost certainly need to sell further players at a profit of circa £80m in 2025-26 which is probably impossible given what will be left with after the sale (s) made in June 20025.
Surely things can't be this bleak but as Baza says what other explanation is there for doing this?
8.) 22 Feb 2025 07:08:21
It is the Premier League who have moved the deadline to 30th June, not the club.
9.) 22 Feb 2025 09:10:14
Wandering are you sure?
If so why?
Are you saying it is just Wolves the Premier league has forced to do this or is it all clubs?
As far as I can tell from Companies House Liverpool and Arsenal for example still have 31.5 as their year end?
Eds any info on this matter?
{Ed001's Note - I think he is getting mixed up between the dates of accounts being released and PRS calculations being done.}
10.) 22 Feb 2025 09:47:54
Ed - do you know therefore if clubs that report at the end of May 2025 can include transactions done at the start of June 2025 in the 2025 PSR calculations.
If the answer to the q is yes then why have Wolves moved the date?
If the answer is no - which seems more consistent with accounting concepts - it does suggest does it not that perhaps Wolves do have PSR issues?
Regardless though all in all I tend to agree with Wandering that it would be sensible for all clubs to align the PSR date with their Financial year end.
{Ed001's Note - the reported accounts are separate, so it makes no real difference. It is just sensible and easier to produce the full accounts at the same time as you are producing the PSR documentation for the Premier League.}
11.) 22 Feb 2025 10:15:23
Tks
So it may be a totally innocent piece of admin, simply doing as you say "making it simpler and easier to tie up the 2 reporting requirements"
Guess I am so sceptical I am seeing "issues" where none may exist.
Shame the club hasn't put out a statement explaining what it is doing and why - assuming they haven't and I haven't just missed it.
{Ed001's Note - you could well be right, but as they are changing the way it is calculated, it seems more likely to be just about making it easier to deal with. The 85% threshold has held a lot of clubs back from transfer business though, so who knows until the accounts are released? It is all guesswork until then, as no one knows what terms finance has been taken out on or payment terms of players coming in and leaving.}
14 Feb 2025 09:17:49
Liam Keen reporting that Nelson Semedo will most likely leave the club in the summer as his wages are deemed too high.
Who replaces him? Is Pedro Lima ready to step up? Is Doc up to the job?
1.) 14 Feb 2025 13:01:28
His wages, (£80k pw), have always been too high as he is not a superstar, (nor is/was he worth the £30m we paid for him!).
BUT
He, at 31, so with perhaps 3 or 4 years at the top level left, is a rock solid mid-table Premier league right (wing) back.
To buy one of those this summer, (assuming no one believes Doc, (33 years old and not as obviously fit), is the answer anymore and Lima may or may not be ready), we would surely be looking at significantly more than the £12.5m we would be paying Semedo over a say 3 year extension - unless of course he is asking for an increase in his current wage?.
If he resigns for us or signs with another club there will be no transfer fee paid to his former club - i.e. us!
It is this feature alone that means he can attract wages far in excess of his ability from over clubs.
Consequently we - who are surely in the driving seat - can pay him say the £12.5m over 3 years or pay at least £12.5m to another club for his replacement, (who may or may not be up to the job), and then pay that replacement say a conservative £60k pw or just under £9.5m on top!
It therefore would appear to be a no brainer to resign Semedo even for the "outrageous" £80k pw he is currently on both from a football and financial point of view.
I hope Jeff agrees.
2.) 14 Feb 2025 14:42:46
There are others who are on similar wages who could go so we free up money to better quality.
Hwang £70k pw
Sarabia £90k pw
Dawson £45k pw
Guedes £90k pw
All likely to leave in the summer.
Add to this Cunha.
So I think Liam Keen is speculating at this stage.
3.) 14 Feb 2025 14:43:14
I would let Semedo go he is a very good defender but does not give us much going forward. I think the manger wants a more attacking player in this position and Lima could fit the bill but we need to try him out to see how good he is or not.
4.) 14 Feb 2025 14:44:53
Craig Dawson removed from the 25 man squad for the remainder of the season.
5.) 14 Feb 2025 15:53:35
Guedes is likely to stay he is in Vitors plans and has settled now.
6.) 15 Feb 2025 08:43:07
Absolutely TFIG!
I think some folk don't take those figures into account.
Just as you say if Samedo (a known quantity) goes, we would be in for saving only half or a bit less of his wages if we buy in a replacement plus in top a significant amount for buying a replacement. Unless of course Lima really is ready to step up to that full time fir the season.
That approach of course can't go on forever as players get too old, or are doubtful in the job. Eg where some. might say guides or sarabia, and perhaps Hwang too.
.our £35m boy wonder is another matter entirely of course ?
7.) 15 Feb 2025 11:20:29
Indeed Rollo but as you say Wolves hopefully already have Semedo's eventual replacement in Lima.
By resigning Semedo for free we can, perhaps in 6-12 months time, buy Lima's replacement for a modest fee, (the fee you pay for a youngster not yet ready rather than the multi million pound fee you need to pay for a rock solid mid table prem league player).
Then in 18-24 months time as Semedo is edged out of the side by Lima we are still "covered" with Lima's replacement bedded in and presumably measured/tested to ensure they will be ready if and when Lima in turn needs replacing.
Planning in advance not only saves money but improves the team/squad.
All it requires is good management!
Shame we have Jeff!
8.) 16 Feb 2025 19:55:42
TFIOG are you talking about planning a competitive team for the future in an organised way? Are you some sort of trouble maker? ?
9.) 17 Feb 2025 08:46:14
Fifth column near the turnstiles methinks. Far too radical all the thought of forward planning is giving me the vapours and Jeff will be panic stricken.
10.) 28 Feb 2025 18:39:09
Guedes will be gone if he is not injured.
02 Feb 2025 23:08:19
Marshall Munetsi. Zimbabwe Midfielder reported by John Percy.
1.) 03 Feb 2025 10:25:48
Hard to tell from highlight reels but he looks like a big unit who loves a tackle and a block and is good in the air. Maybe offers more physicality to our midfield and a willingness to get from box to box. I guess only time will tell but if nothing else he doesn't look as if he's one to shy away from a challenge
2.) 03 Feb 2025 10:57:22
Just what we need PaghamWolf! VP did say he wanted to make us more a physical team. Started to show against Villa. Let’s see more! UTW ?
3.) 03 Feb 2025 11:49:52
Nasser Djiga deal nearing completion too.
4.) 03 Feb 2025 12:09:13
Watching the highlights reel for Djiga, he looks big, strong in the tackle and has pace. Seems to be a no nonsense type of player.
5.) 03 Feb 2025 12:16:01
Djiga medical booked for later, he's flying to the UK apparently according to Liam Keen. 12 million Euros, and 18m agreed for Munetsi in principle.
31 Jan 2025 19:24:03
If Wolves make no further signings, I think VP walks away.
1.) 31 Jan 2025 21:24:47
Agree wandering, but he seems abit stubborn in his style, it may not be suiting some either.
2.) 01 Feb 2025 06:43:27
In didn't take Pereira too long to learn, like others before, he had been sold a pup.
Wandering, you sense he will be gone soon, along with many players and football staff.
Why Fosun have allowed Shi to damage the Club so badly, is one of life's great mysteries.
3.) 01 Feb 2025 07:43:09
The funniest thing is that some Arsenal fans are saying they're the worst run club in the world because of their transfer window!
4.) 01 Feb 2025 07:54:25
Most probably financial Rugeley, Fosun most prob have a contract that won't tie them to big compo deal and VP only wants the prem manager on his CV, we're a stepping stone. Who knows how or why this mess as been allowed to come about. Maybe there is or should be big survival payments, but he won't be getting that if we lose again tonight. Lord knows what's going on. I said before I hope I'm wrong, I hope Fosun surprise us with two or three solid signings come Monday, just can't see it.
5.) 01 Feb 2025 08:02:37
can you blame him like lop others told pack of lies has were us fans
6.) 01 Feb 2025 11:15:36
Rugeley he wasn't so much sold a pup just a big heap of waste product from one like all managers after Nuno. A recurring theme common denominator Jeff Shi.
22 Jan 2025 17:23:28
Liam Keen has apologised.
1.) 23 Jan 2025 11:08:34
I have very much enjoyed Liam Keens reporting (together with Nathan Judah) this past few years. He is clearly a Wolves fan and like many of us is likely to be concerned about Wolves current survival battle. Many of us may be quick to judge the performance and behaviour of the players. I would urge that we take care here and that we do not antagonise players either in the street, stadium and in the media. Let's not be a final straw that would tempt a player to talk to another club.
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22 Apr 2025 15:41:11
I would have no problem with Cunha leaving for Man Utd as long as the money is used to buy Yuri Alberto and Mohamed Amoura.
22 Apr 2025 00:15:47
So Man Utd have more or less agrees terms with Cunha even though they haven't triggered the release fee?
Isn't this 'tapping up'?
What if they offer him £300k per week but refuse to pay the release fee and Cunha throws his dummy out of the pram because he wants the massive pay increase.
1.) 22 Apr 2025 07:43:54
The sooner Cunha has gone the better for our team, we need to move on and give some other players a chance, there is no point to keep playing someone who is leaving, let's start building for next season.
2.) 22 Apr 2025 09:08:31
I thought Cunha wanted European football, trophies, etc, Wandering. Money or not that's hardly likely with Man U, ok maybe the Carabao Cup.
3.) 22 Apr 2025 09:10:31
Hi WS,
I was reading an article (not sure if it was the same one) saying it's a done deal. Cuhna seen talking to the MU Manager in the tunnel. I know they're still a huge club and a draw for players, but they're a complete mess. Manager after Manager, player unrest. No champions league and certainly they must be close to PSR breaches ( Maybe one of the Ed's has an idea). They might even have to sell before they can afford Cuhna.
4.) 22 Apr 2025 11:59:53
Sorry to say it but I actually think we scored an own goal here! What was the point in the new contract if the release fee actually weakened our negotiating position?! United have paid absolutely stupid money for players before (please see Hojland and Antony) and if we didn't have such a stupidly cheap release fee we could/should have taken then to the cleaners! More top work for Jeff's negotiation skills! £62.5m is an absolute steal! ?
5.) 22 Apr 2025 12:07:41
It it's a done deal for Cunha to Man U, it may be subject to Man U winning the Europa League and therefore qualifying for the Champions League. Not exactly a prize destination for Cunha, but he may have scared off bigger clubs with his tendency to get red cards. We will survive him and prosper next season.
6.) 22 Apr 2025 12:20:52
I think it's speculation at the moment. I don't see how Man Utd can afford to buy Cunha. I get that they generate massive revenues, but they need nearly an entire new team and have made big losses. Things could get worse at Old Trafford before they get better.
Hand on heart hypothetically what players do Man Utd have right now who we would actually be happy to see in a Wolves shirt and see as an upgrade on what we already have?
Is Cunha's release fee a definite £62 million regardless, or was it only on relegation?
He probably will leave in pre season, but I'm not sure he'll end up at Man Utd
7.) 22 Apr 2025 13:01:21
Apparently we are happy to receive Cunha's fee in 3 instalments!
Is there any financial logic to this or are we just glad that someone will pay his release clause?
8.) 22 Apr 2025 13:38:04
Tim, it may seem strange but most players are bought and sold on the never-never. Wolves would rarely or never pay for a player outright unless the fee was minor. There's the financial logic.
9.) 22 Apr 2025 14:43:09
That's true Deep but as the Ed has previously pointed out that doesn't (technically/necessarily) mean they are meeting the release fee. Which often relies on the entire fee being offered, if we are doing it in instalments I would seriously hope that it suggests we are getting more than the bargain basement release fee with put on the contract!
I also wonder on this (as Acle suggests) is this deal reliant on Rashford going to Villa? Cause somehow I'm not convinced that will happen, his wages at United are currently CRAZY! ?
{Ed001's Note - do you not think this story is just his agent drumming up interest? By revealing Wolves will accept instalments, it massively increases the clubs that will be able to afford him.}
10.) 22 Apr 2025 16:13:14
It's musical chairs sometimes, Bully. Clubs are often waiting for other clubs to cough up. You may be right about Rashford, it's not a given that he will move to Villa. All that has been proven is that he was probably sulking at Man U and not trying as hard as he should. Would Villa take a chance on him for next season, at his crazy wages? Is his resurgence temporary or permanent? I wonder. And Ed001, I wouldn't put it past Cunha's agent to reveal the payment plan, as it might flush out clubs prepared to offer higher wages, and we just get the same release fee.
11.) 22 Apr 2025 16:21:20
My thoughts exactly Ed001, it just seems an unlikely destination for him. But we'll see.
13 Apr 2025 10:11:11
I don't think there is a single Wolves fan who would say Fabio Silvas time at the club has been a success.
But he is interesting Atletico, Villareal and Real Betis who hope to make a swoop over the summer.
What's the betting that if he continues in his current form (11 goals in 23 games), these very same fans will be asking why we let him go? It was the same with Vitinha who let's face it, was useless when here.
1.) 13 Apr 2025 10:31:47
Probably true WS, but the difference for me is Wolves have given Fabio plenty of opportunities, but with Vitinha less so. Not sure if Nuno didn't rate him, didn't think he trained hard enough, whatever but barely had a decent run out.
2.) 13 Apr 2025 10:47:20
Get your point wandering, fabio was well liked at rangers too, wasn't he? Lol. I was excited by all the hype when he arrived, thought he had a rough ride being thrown in after raul's injury and thought he'd improve after beefing up on loan but sadly he seemed lost every time he played.
Vitinha on the other hand I actually liked, his goal at chorley was spectacular on an otherwise drab night and I hoped would be the start of something. He didn't get his chance with us but has certainly prospered since.
The problem with getting 'shot' of fabio seems to be his wages so I think it'll be a loan deal if anything, but he won't be wearing old gold next season.
Ironically had we/if we go down he could perhaps be crowned a hero in the championship.
3.) 13 Apr 2025 11:08:36
Could he become a part of the team if we lose the likes of Cunha, Guedes and Sarabia as he is already registered with us and any incoming money utilised elsewhere?
4.) 13 Apr 2025 11:29:46
Wandering Star Fabio has said he does not want to play for Wolves they need to sell can't loan him out as he has only 1 year left on his contract.
5.) 13 Apr 2025 16:02:59
If Vitinha was useless, blame the coach for not using him properly.
Nuno out!
6.) 13 Apr 2025 16:23:29
I get your point Wandering but the truth is that outside of the top four La Liga is a VERY different league to the Prem. Not just in terms of quality but also in terms of physicality. So Fabio currently has 10 league goals, Ayoze Perez (failed Newc striker) is two goals above him on 12 league goals. Would you be excited/happy if we spent money on Ayoze Perez cause I know I wouldn't. Also worth noting that most the players around Fabio on similar goals are midfielders and not strikers again showing that he's hardly prolific yet! On a similar note Larsen has now scored more goals on his first Prem season than Fabio has ever managed in one season!
Some players just aren't up to/ made for the Prem, I suspect Fabio will be one of those players. Doesn't mean he won't score goals elsewhere but I for one can't wait to see the back of him. We put a lot of faith in that lad and I never felt like he really wanted to be at the club, he wanted the wages though didn't he just didn't want to graft for it! ?
7.) 13 Apr 2025 18:01:59
In all honesty, he will go but as long as we spend the money wisely and allow VP to mould the squad as he wants, we should be fine.
05 Apr 2025 20:55:23
My player of season top 3 is:
1: Cunha
2: Agbadou
3: Joao Gomes
1.) 05 Apr 2025 22:34:56
Agbadu is number one for me. He has transformed our defence and enabled us to go on a good run. Ten points from four games without Cunha. But, of course, the lion’s share of the credit goes to VP; he inherited a shambles and has built a team with winning mentality.
2.) 06 Apr 2025 14:12:39
1. Cunha
2. Andre
3. J. Gomes
Honourable mention for v strong second half of season Agbadou
All outshone as Innocent says however by Vitor.
If he stays you have to believe that with a pre season and the further development of some of the youngsters including the returning Yerson we might have a somewhat calmer season.
3.) 06 Apr 2025 16:51:35
Jao gomes all day long for me.
But some promising individuals
We have
02 Apr 2025 13:52:46
Toti was poor last night. Luckily Agbadou was available to cover his mistakes. Mosquera Agbadou and possibly Djiga is the way forward next season I feel.
1.) 02 Apr 2025 20:53:41
I still see alfie pond finding his way in at some point wandering, but yeh toti wants to hang on to it when the old adage when in doubt kick it out would be the better option.
Wandering Star's rumour replies
21 Apr 2025 19:22:01
Apparently there is a 10% sell on fee on any profit.
01 Apr 2025 15:38:53
I thinks it's an April Fools joke.
24 Mar 2025 23:02:14
Depends on which report you read and believe. I've read one report today stating that only 4 clubs are in danger of breaching PSR - Villa, Everton, Leicester and Newcastle. Then another saying Chelsea, Arsenal, Forest Man City and Palace aswell. Crucially, none of the reports listed Wolves as close to a breach, therefore it seems the decision to sell our better players is not to stave off a breach, more a decision by the hierarchy.
24 Mar 2025 21:10:16
The £62.5m Cunha price is a offer which will trigger the buying club to negotiate a deal with the player. It doesn't mean that Cunha will be obliged to go.
24 Mar 2025 18:57:43
They can offer what they like. It's up to the club to reject it.
£150m for both or no deal.
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24 Apr 2025 21:04:14
If he has agreed the move then that should be the end of his time at Wolves with immediate effect. We are safe so we don't need him to save us. Let him for. He doesn't need to be anywhere near the 1st team. Seems he's turned into this season Matheus Nunes.
But if I was Fosun, I'd tell Man Utd it's the half of the money immediately and the other half in January or no deal.
23 Apr 2025 21:22:34
Personally, I'd let Cunha go if that's what he wants and use the money to buy Yuri Alberto from Corinthians and Mohamed Amoura from Werder Bremen at £25m each.
22 Apr 2025 14:18:12
And to think, some pundits said West Ham had the best transfer window of any team in the Premier League at 144m euros.
And Man Utd have only spent 246m euros to be level on points with us.
13 Apr 2025 18:01:59
In all honesty, he will go but as long as we spend the money wisely and allow VP to mould the squad as he wants, we should be fine.
13 Apr 2025 11:08:36
Could he become a part of the team if we lose the likes of Cunha, Guedes and Sarabia as he is already registered with us and any incoming money utilised elsewhere?