Wolves banter 3

23 Sep 2025 07:39:05
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22 Sep 2025 15:08:12
Coaches have to learn to capitalize on the skills of their players instead of trying to shoehorn them into the coach's style.
Bull wouldn't make these coaches' bench, even.

22 Sep 2025 21:02:59
We can all see what is wrong with the team, we defend too deep and do not press the attacking players and we allow them to pick out their passes with no pressure. When we attack we are far to slow to get the ball into the opponents box and this allows our opponents to get into their shape. I still believe we can turn this around and give the fans something to get behind.

23 Sep 2025 09:32:54
VP's tactical is to play the ball sideways - he's talked about it before. I don't think it works in English football and why we've given a 3 year contract to a manager who never lasts on average more than 18 months at any club he's managed is complete craziness. Just like last season with GoN.

VP won't last the season which means more money wasted in pay offs and trying to bring in someone to improve the team based on the bottom of a very empty barrel.

The running of the club right now is a shambles.

22 Sep 2025 14:49:33
Why oh why didn't vp
Play mateus mane Saturday
For God sake
Start him against everton
Drop sa
Play 2 wingers 2 up front
We did OK
With this system in the past
And vp
If you can't pick 11 players
Let the fans choose.

22 Sep 2025 19:01:51
Probably because he's only just turned 18 (last week) therefore expecting him to start a Prem match is aittle unrealistic?! If we've spent almost £50m on strikers (JSL and Tolu) but still need to pin our hopes on an entirely unproven 18 year old then our problems are genuinely worse than even I have considered! 😒

22 Sep 2025 21:40:01
Lets not make the same mistake with Mane that we did with Fabio. let's nurture him and let him grow rather than throw him in at the deep end.

22 Sep 2025 21:45:47
There are a lot of people here blaming everything on Jeff shi. I am not a Jeff shi fan but how can it be his fault that we score after 8 minutes and then think we can sit back and defend the lead for the next 82 minutes? Even at 1-3 down we are playing side to side and backwards with no idea what to do in the final third of the pitch.

That is down to the players and more importantly the instructions they are given to by the manager. I’m watching Millwall v Watford right now - both teams playing fast attacking football trying to create chances at the end of the pitch where you can’t concede a goal. What’s wrong with that tactic?

22 Sep 2025 22:11:59
Last time I looked we'd got rid of all our wingers ! Converted full backs is the best we can do.

22 Sep 2025 22:58:18
Wayne Rooney, Michael Owen, Robbie Fowler spring to mind.
What have we got to lose?

23 Sep 2025 06:06:37
Old Wulf, Jhon Arias, Enso Gonzales and Hwang Hee Chan are wingers. Not very good or fit to play, but still wingers.

23 Sep 2025 10:28:10
Didn't we also get Sutherland, a young lad from Scotland last year? Wandering? He was a L winger I think. Although he maybe lwb in U21s.
If you havnt seen Mane's goal v Arsenal u21 last sat have a look, it's a beauty, but as is wolves they squandered a 2-0 lead to lose 3-2.

23 Sep 2025 11:26:11
We'll have to disagree on that one, Wandering.Enso maybe but as he's young and seemingly perpetually injured I think we can rule him out. As for the other two, they bear nothing in similarity to the likes of Neto, Waggy or even poorer quality versions like Chiquinho. A winger needs to have the basic qualities of being able to beat a player and to cross the ball with a degree of accuracy and I've seen nothing from either to suggest they remotely fit the bill. More central roles suit better but Hwang seems to have completely gone.

23 Sep 2025 16:49:23
I know, hence my last comment about them being not good enough or injured. They are still wingers though.

22 Sep 2025 14:04:13
December could be a make of break month as we have MGW rocking up at Molineux with Boly on the bench.
Nathan Collins and Keith Andrews will be here with Brentford.
We face Matheus Cunha home and away as well as Arsenal and Liverpool away.

22 Sep 2025 17:03:51
We will be well on the way to going down by then.
And may go down with no points or the lowest tally ever
The way were playing I can't see where we can get a point.
Its frightening really

23 Sep 2025 10:30:00
You could well be right Greyleg, I can't see us getting anything as it stands and Fosun promising to buy in January will be wasted money.

22 Sep 2025 12:58:58
I have a question should Wolves sack VP if so who do Wolves get as a new manager. Imo no manager with any credibility would not touch Wolves with a barge pole under Fuson. So your left with someone who nobody has heard of just like VP and if they do appoint someone new would he have the same affect. Fuson need to look very closely at what there doing because relegation is going to cost Wolves a fortune. So if relegated are Fuson going put there hands In there pockets to get Wolves promoted or be happy to stay in the Championship time will tell.

22 Sep 2025 13:42:52
They won’t sack him now. Just gave him a 3 year deal unless they have something in the contract that states if he hasn’t won in 10 games or so he can be fired with no payout. I know I know who would sign a contract like that. And then if he does go there would be a big payout for him and all his staff. Then we are in the same cycle of having to spend in Jan and hope we stay up and then during the summer sell off the last of the best players like JSL, Andre and Gomes, and then we are even more weakened.
I hope we do a wolves and go on to somehow win the next two games against form and instill some confidence before the Sunderland game.
Would be nice to have a cup run also.

22 Sep 2025 14:49:46
VB Wolf, I guess the contract VP just signed could have performance related clauses. Like, X number of points by Xmas or you're history, senor. I can't believe Jeff would give a blank-cheque contract. Jeff would want to keep his options open for a January spending splurge, by a new coach/manager if necessary. If things don't pick up, January will be the last-chance saloon, and VP might not be ordering the drinks!

22 Sep 2025 14:53:07
I see WHU are apparently lining up Nuno to replace Potter, so that's another team that will soon be pulling out of the relegation zone and towards safety if true! 😭

23 Sep 2025 12:07:47
If they di sack vp
Might aswell appoint ronald macdonald, he couldn't do any worse 😂😂😂😂

22 Sep 2025 10:06:15
Been away on holidays and off line for two weeks.
Since I last looked, 4 significant things seem to have happened
1 good, 1 not surprising, 1 bad and 1 insanely surprising.
JSL signed a new contract without a release clause
Wolves lost away at Newcastle .
Wolves lost, seemingly quite badly, at home to Leeds. The 2nd of the 8 must win games I identified in an earlier post "the road to survival" both lost at home!
Wolves gave Vitor a new contract!
As Wolves have picked up 1 point from the last 9 league games in normal circumstances he would be on very very thin ice and in my view should actually be gone now! However sacking him either this week or even over the next few weeks will both be highly embarrassing and very expensive!
What is going on?

I can totally understand why Vitor signed a new contract as he was, (in the rational world), just about to be sacked and a new contract hugely increases the pay off he will receive. However, why did Jeff offer him a new contract as, even as a non football man, he knows he is likely to have to sack him soon - lesson learnt from not sacking GON soon enough?
Was he frightened that Vitor would walk and no one credible would take the job?
To be honest I have no idea - but is Jeff really this stupid?

However the far far more relevant question is why is the club in this mess?
The short answer for anyone with the wit and willingness to see is that this has been coming since Seville.
Phil, (an ex-poster for those that don't know him), used to ask me if Wolves would go down this season and I would reply no not this year but its coming. Now I am not so certain that the club has done enough to avoid the drop this year.
But specifically this year?
I tend to agree with Wandering and say that to a large extent it sits with Vitor
Yes Wolves had yet another abysmal transfer window - selling high quality and experienced players and buying, for not insignificant sums, 6 largely younger players with no Prem experience. (Incredibly Wolfe already appears written off - 3rd choice LWB now? - and only Krejci is seemingly currently playing at the levels required.)
Also to be fair to Vitor I question if this really is his side?
I know I have read that he has said he is "happy" but given he was being given a new contract to quote Mandy Rice Davies "he would say that wouldn't he?"
We certainly know he wanted Krejci as he was on the "list" but if he is happy with the rest of this squad he is even more damned than I had thought. I suspect that he wouldn't have wanted to lose the quality players he did and we know he wanted to buy "better" players, including some of those on his "list". He can however only operate within the restrictions of the market - prices Wolves will pay, wages Wolves will pay and even more relevantly players willing to come to Wolves.
But it is far worse than this. The squad is awful but nothing like this bad. Vitor seemingly has lost if not the entire dressing room at least elements of it - Andre, now one of the 2 best players is clearly out of sorts and the body language of several others including seemingly JSL is apparently poor.
Selections, tactics, fitness and morale all are poor according to numerous pundits and social media posters.
Like Emmanuel's form in the second half of last year was that brief flurry of results against the bottom 6 last season the high point of Vitor's reign?

22 Sep 2025 10:47:39
As I said in my previous post TFIOG it's a multi layered mess no doubt and sadly it won't get any better whether we survive relegation this season or not.

For Shi and VP to both claim he got the players he wanted is pure PR nothing more, nothing less. The Club is on it's knees now thanks to the owners lack of investment and Shi's incompetence controlling the way whatever money they do have, is spent.

Everyone is trying to work under continually deteriorating circumstances, it makes no sense.

22 Sep 2025 11:20:36
Unfortunately my friends Jeff is guilty of the old doing the same things over again and expecting a different result. As they say good luck with that one!
Obviously I do hope we get a different result but I am not going to hold my breath.
COYW

22 Sep 2025 11:32:14
Clearly something is amiss, what? I don't know. Is Jeff really stupid enough to give VP a new contract knowing he will need to fire him before Christmas, I don't know and without knowing the details its hard to say, but yes it may be difficult to replace the manager this time.

22 Sep 2025 12:29:19
I have started to question as well if VP has lost the players as Future mentions. Krejci I think looks a good player, Lopez has potential, the rest of the new signings, to be kind, need more time to settle. Arias and Wolfe not looking likely to ever be good replacements for Cunha and RAN.

I do still think we are a better team than the way we are performing, maybe this poor form is due to the players not being happy, whether this is down to VP or the actions of Jeff and Co, something is not right.
Will we beat Everton, Spurs or Brighton?

Best chance seems to be Everton if they play a weakened side, real possibility we lose the next 3 unfortunately, then what?

22 Sep 2025 14:50:50
They always say the first sig of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, well step forward Jeff Shi who is the ultimate proof of this statement.

As stated no one with credibility will want to touch us with a barge pole. If people think Nuno would come back when the problem is still here (Jeff again) then think again, would you go back to a company you had a fall out with the boss I think not.

When the same story is being peddled out by 4 previous managers then the issue is still there (Jeff again).

On Fosun they may look at it different and think they bought it for £50 odd million and now worth £350 million so in theory he's done his job.

I don't know how it will turn out but unless something changes quickly we will go down. It will be worse in December when at least 5 players leave to the Afcon.

22 Sep 2025 09:55:22


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22 Sep 2025 08:01:32
I was thinking ahead a bit and assuming, whether it's under VP or not, we survive another relegation battle what happens next Summer? I think we probably will because let's be honest we've had more practice now than any team in football history.

Given that there will be yet another hole in the accounts by then who will the Club sell to bridge that gap and given the seemingly diminished performances of most, how many will it need to be to raise the required funds?

In this self inflicted race to the bottom will we even have any standout players left to panic sell. If the worst happens how many will want to leave or will they stay and be relieved to play at a level they can cope with.

This truly is a shocking state of affairs, a sort of self fulfilling prophesy, which has been predicted for some years now, the end result being where we are today facing a continuous year on year fight against relegation, inevitably failing at some point, that's a statistical inevitability.

Even if the 'penny has dropped' is it too late as the quality of player we now have has diminished to the point of no return? Are Shi/Fosun really still that clueless after all these years, do they even care? Has VP been sold a pup or have they found yet another Manager who flatters to deceive, there's so many layers to this it's hard to tell anymore?

My conclusion, for what it's worth, Fosun need to sell Wolves. It's that simple and it's primarily for two reasons, firstly, their lack of financial input has put the club into a nosedive and secondly, even with the required levels of investment they are seemingly incapable of knowing how to spend it. That day has come, my concern is for the Club, not them.

22 Sep 2025 09:53:25
Didn't Jeff Shi say last week that the club have no financial worries. So its clear that Fosun have decided to ruin the club simply for profit.

22 Sep 2025 10:23:52
Wandering - Firstly I don't think we can take anything he says with anything other than a large pinch of salt.
However he may well be referring to the fact that in the extended financial year just ended Wolves made vast profits from player sales - Cunha and RAN were both additionally shoehorned into the year at the end.
Consequently from a PSR perspective Wolves almost certainly have no problems.
However from an underlying profitability - before player sales - it is highly likely that Wolves are still massively unprofitable and from a cashflow perspective it may be no better - Wolves have bought a fair few players as well.
Long hard to disagree with anything you say other than if they don't sell this year it is quite possible that they will have nothing to sell.
The club may have no issues re PSR but with relegation causing turnover to plummet I am not certain if it will be possible to re-base the finances fast enough and Fosun far from having its loans repaid may be forced to either inject substantial further sums or throw in the towel and file for insolvency.

22 Sep 2025 10:25:06
I've voiced all along my concerns that they were cashing in, ready to go. I know Tfig will explain the losses or drop in values that relegation would bring, but I honestly think Fosun are running us down on purpose.

Ah but, I hear some will say, look how much we spent in the transfer window, money recycled from sales I'd answer, even leaving a small profit? I don't know.

The players we have brought in are not of the quality we need, or in some cases not fulfilling the roles we'd expect them to, why? I don't know.

Th VP contract is a little mystifying given our points from games ratio and the defeats in friendlies, we've retained a manager come what may, to be blamed, maybe happy in the knowledge he'll be blamed, I don't know.

The general gist is that we're in a pickle, staring the championship in the eyes. VP seems confident it'll come right, Fosun happy in their choices, and if Jeff's to be believed, if he said what was written, about a meeting the London wolves fans, then fosun will spend in January, how much, who on, who'd want to come, I don't know.

Maybe VP will oversee his last game at spurs this weekend if results continue, would Fosun have the guts to do that? I don't know.

Perhaps a miracle will occur whereby everything gels, and we go on another amazing run and get to the top of the Lower half and everyone can breathe a sigh of relieve until the circus starts again. I don't know.

I don't know!

22 Sep 2025 11:22:23
I for one wanted moyes. West ham would welcome him back and look at Everton now. For vp to not know his 1st eleven 6 weeks into the season is unacceptable.there's a lot of unhappiness in this team and it's spreading. 4 or 5 new signings aren't good enough.

22 Sep 2025 11:44:46
I was quoting from the post by Deep Throat last week between Shi and London Wolves.

'Regarding recruitment, there are no PSR [Premier League Profit and Sustainability Regulations] worries at the club and therefore this did not have any impact on decision making when considering transfers. Equally, there was no policy of 'sell before we buy' in place, which gave the recruitment team a clear field to operate in. Of course, Wolves wanted to bring new players in as early as possible to give Vitor the longest time to work with the player and that the players to be able to settle down at their new club. This was not always possible due to the market and the reluctance of other teams to let their best players go, equally, the end of the window was also challenging as clubs were reluctant to let players go so close to the closure of the window which did not give them time to replace them.'

22 Sep 2025 15:11:02
Why do people just ignore the facts here?

22 Sep 2025 03:26:56
Does anyone think VP might have lost the dressing room?

22 Sep 2025 10:27:15
Yes Rated. Lingering in the dugout doing his notes at half time on sat, leaving the stunned players to go in alone suggested that to me.

22 Sep 2025 10:31:55
I think 100% VP has lost the dressing room. Surely no professional footballer can play that bad intentionally.

22 Sep 2025 07:39:11
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