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31 Aug 2023 18:22:01
Che Adams on loan may be happening according to John Percy. Apparently, talks are in progress.
1.) 31 Aug 2023 18:29:33
Hope John Percy ain’t right. That’s all we need for a team that can’t score….A forward who can’t score
2.) 31 Aug 2023 18:50:44
He can score.got 3 already
3.) 31 Aug 2023 19:28:33
Oh give over ATM he knows where the net is.
4.) 31 Aug 2023 19:28:52
In the championship, and The Saints have bought another forward, if CA is that good why get another forward?
5.) 31 Aug 2023 20:01:48
Because he wants premier league footy Debs.
6.) 31 Aug 2023 20:21:12
Adams is a good player. He'll score at least 10 goals this season.
7.) 31 Aug 2023 20:46:17
Because he wanted to stay in prem Debbie and Saints wanted to reward him for having been loyal previously by not standing in his way. Player and club doing right for each other for a change.
8.) 31 Aug 2023 21:50:59
Some Wolves fans "we need a striker desperately." striker comes in "oh why are we getting him for" talk about fickle.
9.) 01 Sep 2023 02:57:38
The problem is Rated that for some reason when most peeps talk about a striker these days, what they really mean is 20 goals for the club! What no one seems to realise is that unless you are a top four club or very lucky (e.g. us with pre-injury Raul or Brentford with Toney) then those kind of strikers just don't exist! Jas is correct (as usual:) in this squad Adams would probs get 8-15 goals and just as importantly play a hand in 5-10 more goals! That's the way you HAVE to look at strikers in the bottom half of the Prem, if they can play a hand in 15-25 goals a season then they are good value! I said I wanted Iheanacho but Phil (previously:) talked me round to Che as a like for like alternative (and probs cheaper and younger). He also has the added benefit of being local, which means he won't want to be elsewhere unlike most of Mendes signings! We seem to be taking a more practical approach to recruitment. Hobbs and GON have taken us away from the 'best' (pantomime:) horse of Mendes stable and seem to be looking at the sqaud more holistically. Hobbs mentioned Bueno being left footed and that we now have a good balance of cbs (2xLf and 2x Rf). And for me Adams is similar, not prolific but brings attributes to the squad that are missing from the front line (speed, cutting in from the wing, poaching). If we are interested in Harrison I suspect it'll be the same, as in he'll replace attributes the midfield will now lack without Nunes (which I suspect is mostly ball carrying).
I suppose what I am saying (in a fairly round about way:) is that it's nice to FINALLY feel like our recruitment has some purpose again! C'mon Hobbs give us a transfer deadline day to remember! COYW??
10.) 01 Sep 2023 09:30:14
Correct BB outside a Kane, Sterling or Salah 15 is a good haul for a top flight striker, 19 is an every other game goal scorer.
11.) 01 Sep 2023 09:55:02
I welcome Che Adams he's great striker.he will help others up front all I got to say O'Neill's barmy army .so glad he's here he's a great manager who deserves a chance.
12.) 01 Sep 2023 10:51:14
Because they wanted Kane, Rated. More often than not the same fans are unable to come up with a realistic viable alternative but still moan.
22 Jun 2023 09:39:36
According to Football fantasy Wolves have made an approach for Nathan Redmond, probably on a free I would think.
Plus, having just seen the new away strip it got me thinking, have Wolves ever used red before? I quite like it.
1.) 22 Jun 2023 11:26:39
Seems a weird choice to me afterall apart from Luton Town, the only potential (mild) clashes are against teams that play in red.
2.) 22 Jun 2023 13:04:37
Redmond wants 2m pa aka 40k per week or perhaps 1k per hour. When you look at it and think my pension is 15mins of that. Am I jealous? Actually no I'm not but I do despair of values in society these days. I suppose it's no different with CEO's of public companies (though they don't have a squad of twenty five) I don't see anyone worth those salaries!
That gentleman in a nutshell is why despite loving the new away shirt there is not a hope in hell that I would ever buy one!
3.) 22 Jun 2023 13:06:23
Is it coincidence that it's Portugal's national team colour?
4.) 22 Jun 2023 13:32:00
Didn’t the club originally play in Red and White stripes?
5.) 22 Jun 2023 14:46:48
It's more Spain phil, a nod to JL perhaps?
6.) 22 Jun 2023 15:51:02
Ah I'm colour blind Portugal and Spain I can't tell the difference look same to me.
But yes Abbey a nod to JL perhaps.
7.) 22 Jun 2023 15:51:19
Your quite right HalfTimePie, as someone whose recently been around the Wolves Museum I should have remembered that. ?
It probably is a nod to Iberia but it makes a nice change to the usual colours used so for me, not bad.
8.) 22 Jun 2023 16:41:28
Perhaps we are hoping to get the refs on our side wearing red.
And yes we did wear red and whites stripes, changing from blue and white stripes in the 1800's.probably because we looked kak in blue and white.
9.) 22 Jun 2023 19:51:58
It's a nod to Sarabia.
10.) 22 Jun 2023 20:15:11
Reading more on the design the pattern supposedly represent 'iberian architechture' and the red is to make our iberian players more at home on their travels.!?
11.) 23 Jun 2023 09:24:55
Last ditch attempt to get traore to stay?
15 May 2023 20:42:22
According to Goodison News 'Injury Expert' that two Wolves players will be out of this weekends Wolves side, apparently Chiquinho and Kalajdzic. I must say that's come as a real shock!
Secondly, apparently The Boy Hotspur and Football Insider are both claiming that Spurs are plotting a move for Lopetegui and Matt Hobbs. I suppose we should be used to this sort of thing by now.
1.) 15 May 2023 22:45:43
Well Longmynd, those normally astute chappies,the bookmakers, know nothing about it because currently Lopetegui doesn't feature anywhere in the betting market.
Current favourite is Arne Slot (Feyenoord)followed by Rogers, Allonso and Frank.
2.) 16 May 2023 07:02:36
Morning OW and L.If Lopetegui is not supported in the summer, he will be gone.wherever, but to a top team.
3.) 16 May 2023 07:51:57
That rules Spurs out then Rugeley, without Kane barely mid table, imo.
4.) 16 May 2023 11:01:39
Morning to you too, Rugeley. Can't deny that. His forthcoming meeting with Shi will probably be pivotal (for him and our future).
5.) 16 May 2023 11:29:46
He's entered the betting at 40/1.
6.) 16 May 2023 14:34:32
Considering Wolves pushed and pushed to get JL, part of which allegedly involved transfer funding promises, I can only see that meeting as being a positive one Old Wulf.
Especially if others are sniffing about as to do otherwise would be beyond stupid.
7.) 16 May 2023 16:23:20
Agree Long.the new structure must have cost a Fosun a fortune, they will not waste that investment. Also Lopetegui would not have come if he wasn't given the reassurance that the resources to fix the squad this summer would be provided.
Also Clubs like Spurs would only offer him a Coaching role, not the all-embracing "Manager's" Role he has with us.
8.) 16 May 2023 18:07:30
Good last point,Rugeley. That's got to mean a lot to any coach come manager worth his salt.
05 May 2023 19:55:18
According to sources in Spain (Spanish journalist Toni Juanmarti) Mendes is allegedly trying to broker a deal with Barcelona for their 20 year old striker Ansu Fati.
The price: Ruben Neves plus £30M, how good must he be?
1.) 05 May 2023 23:02:06
He's very good. He was touted as superstar about 2 years ago. We've also been linked to Nico Williams from Bilbao. Apparently Lopetegui has been given a huge pot of money to rebuild the squad and push us towards the European places.
2.) 06 May 2023 07:05:25
Let's just get over the line Jas first.then look forward not to evolution.but the revolution!
3.) 06 May 2023 08:48:03
We're also being linked with Coventry striker Viktor
Gyökeres (again).
4.) 06 May 2023 09:19:59
I saw that too Deb.
Be interesting to see if it materialises.
Imo every signing is not a certain that the player turns out as expected being the premier league is such a difficult league.
5.) 06 May 2023 11:52:32
He's good Longmynd but hasn't been pulling up trees and is far from being a regular. 4 goals and 3 assists in 31 league appearances this season. Only 20 though so has time on his side.
6.) 06 May 2023 16:06:04
This is one of my concerns about our striker pool Old Wulf, surely if we want to give it a serious go next season, we need proven finishers, not more potential.
7.) 06 May 2023 17:43:19
That's correct long but as I think BB regularly puts it, who? They cost a fortune and go to the big 6/7, it may be potential is the only way forward.
8.) 08 May 2023 11:53:25
Re Fati who does look a decent prospect. All I'd say Jas and I'm not knocking you but touted as a superstar a couple of years ago. I seem to remember we spent the family Silva on one of them! Just a thought pal.
9.) 08 May 2023 13:19:29
But you do realise that Lopetegui's agent is Jorge Mendes. Lopetegui really rates him and was on the verge of handing him his international debut when he was Spain manager. This is not a player who is not known. He just doesn't suit Xavi's style of play at Barca. Lopetegui will not be dictated to by Mendes and if he doesn't want him, he won't come.
There will be a clear out at Wolves this summer and if we are signing players of the calibre of Fati, then boy, we are in for an exciting ride.
I also think Silva will come back and prove that he really was worth the initial outlay.
{Ed001's Note - it is nothing to do with style of play. It is injuries and the fact that Messi is no longer there. Fati was being represented by Messi's brother while Messi was at Barca and so he got what he wanted to keep Messi happy. The injuries have made Xavi not trust him.}
10.) 08 May 2023 13:41:48
Either way, I'd still have him at Wolves over Podence and Adama.
{Ed001's Note - when fit and firing he is a fantastic player. Nice family too.}
28 Feb 2023 13:57:12
Not sure how realistic this one is but Mundo Deportivo claim Vinicious Souza will be signed by Wolves for next season
The City Football Group actually own Souza's parent club, Lommel and they allegedly have an agreement in place with Wolves for him to go to Molineux next season.
Nothing on if it will be a loan or permanent at this stage. Stand out player (on loan) for Espanyol so could he be a Neves replacement, if true?
1.) 28 Feb 2023 16:53:22
Was reading he is "Casemiro 2.0" - could be a good signing if true.
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05 Dec 2024 09:48:02
Well that certainly stirred up a hornets nest, nice to hear from some of the long term and occasional posters on here. Pity it couldn't have been under happier circumstances. Quite a variety of views but the vast majority reaching the same conclusion. Some against GON's appointment from the outset some, after last season hoped he may grow in stature and become an inspired appointment and some hoping for the latter but knowing the club had sold him a pup and aren't really surprised at what's happening.
But he took the job and why wouldn't he it's another Premier League club on his CV. I've no doubt GON will become a good Manager one day but he will need to do more in the lower leagues or just have a better team to work with. I know we have some talented footballers but many are young having never set foot in this country before let alone played at this level. To give that group to a rookie coach with little managerial experience is in truth, unbelievable.
Supporting Wolves has always been a roller coaster but this feels more like Disney's runaway train which as many may know rises to dizzy heights only to be let go eventually ending up underground. Sadly, I think from a footballing perspective the owners have let go putting all their efforts into collecting the money from those being taken for a ride, literally.
So what's to do? The jury is no longer out on GON it's a majority verdict, but at the moment I don't think they will sack him. Partly because I believe they plan to see it through until January so they can hopefully re-enforce the defence then see what happens. I doubt they'll want to pay off yet another Coach/Manager, so soon after giving him a 4 year contract, so yes, penny shy £ foolish. It seems we have a lot of specialists in the club but experts in nothing as the decision making in recent years has lurched from raising peoples eyebrows to wtf.
Periodically, Fosun have rode in just in time a bit like the US cavalry to save the day but I doubt that will happen this time, they've probably sold the horses. Let's hope they prove me wrong.
1.) 05 Dec 2024 09:52:42
You can’t keep him in a job till January they having a laugh or what
There is a old saying you have to pay to get rid of rubbish
2.) 05 Dec 2024 10:22:35
I agree GON should go now!
3.) 05 Dec 2024 10:24:15
When Fosun have sold off the crown jewels of the squad we will have the following to put in a Championship challenge.
GK : Johnson/Bentley
Defenders : Lima/Mosquera/Meupiyou/Toti/Pond/Bueno/Buenos
Midfield : Doyle/Andre/Traore/Bellegarde/Cundle
Forwards : Forbes/Strand Larsen/Gomes/Gonzalez/Kalajdzic
Plus any purchases we may make!
4.) 05 Dec 2024 10:32:46
No point even keeping him for west ham, he's obviously not good enough
I'm afraid times up gary
5.) 05 Dec 2024 10:40:07
I repeat myself again, Fosun must make a statement of intent, be it keeping GON on for whatever reason, or dismissing him today. Until they tell us something conspiracies will abound.
Sort this mess out Jeff.
6.) 05 Dec 2024 10:49:06
you ask a lot abbeywolf of jeff slow boat to china shi lol
7.) 05 Dec 2024 11:35:10
Derry-No chance that Andre, Strand Larssen or Doyle will play in the Championship
8.) 05 Dec 2024 11:36:20
Good Post Derry.
If we do get relegated, I think as you have highlighted, there is the makings of a strong Championship side.
Fosun will be pleased, because big money will be made on sales and still leave a strong Championship squad, with plenty of wiggle-room for new players.
It just needs a solid management appointment to steer us back.
I would still hope (have done for the last 4 years), Fosun strengthen the senior Leadership team, it is our biggest weakness.
9.) 05 Dec 2024 11:54:51
Don't think that's a strong championship side, Rugeley. Hopefully we'll never find out.Amazingly 6/4 is the general price on relegation and there are 3 teams at shorter odds, Saints, Ipswich and Leicester. Hate to say it but I might have a punt.
10.) 05 Dec 2024 11:55:25
I don't think Hugo bueno will be with us Derry, he's going great gums at feyenoord and attracting big attention.
11.) 05 Dec 2024 12:04:03
Interesting post Derry, two things here firstly I don't think even half those players would opt to play in Champ. Secondly with the way Fosun do contracts I'd be absolutely amazed if most of our players don't have a low lever relegation release clause. If we get relegated we could be in serious trouble cause we don't just lose the Prem broadcast money but we could also see a fire sale of our best talent (Cunha, Gomes and Andre) for a fraction of their actual value! ?
03 Dec 2024 22:21:45
Quite a variety of opinions about the solution to our predicament, but even If GON or anyone else got us playing well, would our best players be sold off again to raise money so he would have to rebuild?
Is this is the cycle we are now doomed to follow, unless we get relegated? Changing the Coach may be helpful, even necessary right now, but the overriding problem would still remain and therefore return to haunt us.
Only Fosun can sort this.
1.) 03 Dec 2024 23:38:50
I don’t understand the speculation every day. We’ve gone over it again and again and the general consensus is fosun are screwing the club and taking the money. But still people are posting the same thing over and over. What’s it actually achieving other than getting people more annoyed about the situation. What answers are you hoping the fans can provide? Talking of cycles it seems most on here are in a cycle of their own. Yes it’s bad at the moment most will agree, yes fosun are the only ones who can answer the questions so why ask on here. It seems your objective is to make people be fearful and worry about their club.
Personally I think we will be fine, yes we will sell players and buy more. Gon will stay until we are halfway through the season. Or start to get cut loose. I don’t think fosun will sell unless it becomes toxic which we aren’t far from. Challenging var isn’t the actions of a management who are disinterested. But I’ve said similar before so what’s the point saying it every day. The same questions are being asked and same statements that we are getting relegated, Gon isn’t good enough, fosun want to sell etc etc. Never understood the point in speculation, why not just wait and see.
2.) 03 Dec 2024 23:55:20
Long, your post from a couple of days ago says about a self fulfilling prophecy, my understanding of that term is when you tell yourself something over and over again you eventually make it true. Isn’t that what a lot of posters on here are doing, say the manager is bad, you perceive the manager to be bad, say the club is badly run, you perceive that too etc.
I believe Gon is a relatively good coach who is learning on the job, I believe fosun have faith in him as a project and will stick with him as long as possible, I believe we will be fine, I also believe we have been unlucky with the start, we make good teams look average and lose by fine margins.
As someone said recently we play better away, maybe it’s because the away fans have more faith, or that the negativity of 28000 home fans is too much for the team to perform. Similar happens at West Ham when their fans turn. Sorry for the rant it’s hard to stay positive when there so much criticism of the club.
3.) 04 Dec 2024 06:55:06
I believe wolves fans must be the most faithful and patient fans in the world looking back at the last seven eight months. Its just in the last weeks that most people have started to get negative against GON. In any other club GON would have been long gone.
4.) 04 Dec 2024 07:02:24
Isn't the continued debate spawned from a silence of Fosun as to their what to express any desire and commitment? The incredulous sales of quality players without replacements? Then the what would appear to be strange decisions of which we all hold our own opinions, ie. Fitness levels over 90 mins, player selection, substitutions etc.
We all share the same love for our club, we all xare and worry what is happening to our club hence questions being asked continually.
Fosun arrived with a promise and an aim, it seems they no longer what to express anything. We the fans are left with big question marks and this banter page allows us to ask, share and try to make sense of the situations. So don't lock it Goatmark, until we've gotsomething definite to go on and look forward to it'll continue, and I'm glad it will.
5.) 04 Dec 2024 07:16:19
Morning Goatmark, as you say "But still people are posting the same thing over and over."
You have constantly seemed to ignore the serious state of our Club.
The reality is whether we like it or not, is Fosun seem to have adjusted their approach to the Wolves "project".
Gone are the heady days of pushing towards success at the highest level.
James Wang, head of Fosun’s asset management division, has been quoted as saying "Jeff Shi is Fosun's representative at Wolves". Says it all for me, all they are doing with Wolves is a holding job. So no serious investment and ambition is my take.
Shi is just with us as an administrator and not charged with growing the Club.
If tonight is anything like Saturday's performance even you will be worried things are not "fine".
Let's hope for better structure, team selection, tactics and players commitment and focus tonight and a win!
6.) 04 Dec 2024 07:48:34
Spot on Goat, all the negativity about Fosun, is a bit of a bore. Careful what you wish for people. I think Fosun are giving us more than you think. Look at the predicament of Everton and Newcastle under Ashley.
Do you all forget that without Fosun we would probably be a mid-table championship team at best. Also Fosun want to make money out of us? Well no s**t Sherlock, they're a business!
7.) 04 Dec 2024 08:31:55
That's exactly it tho Eastmids, we know where we were, we know what fosun have done and what they promised, we know they are here to make money, but now the ambition and investment seems to have gone and they're letting us slip back to a mid table championship team and we don't want that. Understandably we ask questions, Fosun don't give any answers. Until they do those questions will continue because we care for our club.
8.) 04 Dec 2024 09:49:52
Why would anyone be fearful and worry Goatmark, it's just LMW's opinion to which he's entitled. You've accused me of criticism of the club, because I dared to suggest that we weren't playing the new signings and perhaps some of the money may have been spent more wisely. That's my option and others may disagree. It's called BANTER. As fans we are entitled to our views. We all love Wolves and want them to succeed but we are allowed to be critical repeatedly when things are not. Yes things have changed since Fosun first became our owners and we should be grateful to where they've taken us. I'm also a firm believer in growing the club 'organically' with a top up from Fosun as needed to keep that momentum going without breaking PSR, or putting us into massive debt. Fosun's stance has changed though and as Fans we can criticise when things are on the slide, or applaud and congratulate following a degree of success. Not sure if you've been to Molineux lately, but it's looking 'tired'. The GH temp stand is still there but only 2/3rds full. What's happened to investment in the ground. Not sure that even comes into the PSR rules?
Essentially there are questions to be asked repeatedly like it or not. It's generally only when you keep asking the same question you get an answer.
9.) 04 Dec 2024 09:57:15
Im not ignoring anything Rugeley, I know we aren’t in our best state at the moment. I just have faith we will improve and finish mid table again. My point was everyday posters are saying we will get relegated and fosun are taking all the money and have no interest in the club. I don’t see how that is a productive thing to do. Yes have the debate but almost every day it’s the same debate.
Abbey is it any wonder fosun are keeping quiet, they’ve been accused of not communicating with fans since they took ownership. Yet every time they do try communicate it’s not good enough. Jeff said early on he doesn’t understand what us wolves fans want, after his communication was criticised. In may he tried to explain the state of the club and the project ahead yet still we want him to communicate more. Why does he need to tell us what the project is again already? He will only get shot down for being honest. These things take time, more than half a season as some may think. Even if he communicated today, by next week fans will be saying he doesn’t tell us anything and they have lost interest. It’s been the same for a few seasons now.
10.) 04 Dec 2024 10:00:11
I personally don't think Fosun are trying to screw us over. I don't think GON is a bad manager or coach. I do think that GON doesn't have the experience to save us from this predicament but do think that rather than sack the management team, maybe he could benefit from a specialised Defensive Coach. I said a few weeks ago that Joleon Lescott was part of the backroom staff with the National team. Maybe someone like him could be approached to see if they could help out.
11.) 04 Dec 2024 11:11:03
Score predictions for tonight’s game folkes
12.) 04 Dec 2024 11:14:13
Looks like lop is going to get the push don’t think they will waste much time unlike us where GON is concerned fosun will wait until there is no decent manager to replace him
13.) 04 Dec 2024 11:36:58
There you go Goat, it's called a debate for a reason, it's a mix of facts, opinions and observations all of which are relevant and heart felt by the supporters who state them.
The danger is that if you try to shut down any of those views because you don't like to hear them then we're into censorship. Nothing I post is ever offensive or demeaning to any other poster but for some reason you have a problem with me calling out Fosun as I believe that their transfer policy is dangerous. This isn't the first time you've done it, so I'll cut you a deal.
I don't like that policy or mushroom management but I'll stop pointing it out if you promise to stop trying to put a positive spin on everything even when there isn't just cause. Because guess what? that's both boring and irritating to me.
14.) 04 Dec 2024 12:54:58
Long I stated that of course people can debate these things it just felt like it was every day for the last few weeks. And as I stated we can all see it’s not going very well at the moment, I just don’t see the need to go over it repeatedly. I didn’t say you have to stop and I didn’t call it boring. I just asked what benefit it has when as far as I know Jeff isn’t on this forum, but anythings possible I guess. I will do my best to stop putting positive spin on things, generally I try keep it to a minimum anyway as most people don’t like to hear they might be negative and they def don’t like someone positive being all chipper about things.
Blackford i'm not sure I accused you of criticism of the club, my point was not many new signings for any club play straight away and it seems more of the signings are now getting more chances. Imo it takes time for most players to settle in. Could we have bought players we needed instead of investments yes of course I’m not denying that.
It’s interesting that people keep saying it’s opinions yet when I give mine I get told I’m ignoring the serious state of the club. So basically I’m wrong. It’s all perception, one persons serious is another’s not so bad.
15.) 04 Dec 2024 12:56:13
Goatmark, Shi to my knowledge anyway, hasn't had a lot to say other than wolves aren't the club for me if I want to see silverware. Fosun have seen off lopetegui under a question mark, appointed an unproven manager in GON, who worked wonders up until the Coventry game (maybe that was more players ambitions doing?) And his record since tolerated.
They've sold off our 'asset' players without replacing with experience or equal quality.
The mol from what I hear isn't in the best state of repair and there's no further sign of development.
We're now in real danger of relegation and should that happen well lose a fortune in income. Our quality players will leave at the best price we can get, and we will be a team struggling in the championship. Lose tonight and the trap door opens wider.
GON as zero worries about his job, I'm sure he hasn't as he'll be paid handsomely whatever.
The owners, Fosun, meanwhile seemingly go about their business of making money at our expense.
Why havnt/can't they give GON their backing or dissatisfaction. Why can't they assure us they'll endeavour to bring in players we need in January, assure us our best players won't be leaving?
I may have missed something not living in Wolverhampton, but I don't feel confident in my clubs future at the moment.
I've seen it all before, and the long time in the lower leagues. My support never waned. All I expect is a committed club ownership who rewards fans loyalty and cash with dedication to their cause.
I'm not sensing any loyalty to wolves as a football club at the moment, only a business reclaiming financial investment.
Maybe Jeff disagrees, maybe he is working hard putting our best interests forward, and that's the point, we just don't know, do we?
16.) 04 Dec 2024 13:17:29
Kiddywolf, despite my doom and gloom responses I do actually think we'll win tonight. Hopefully the lads will find the unity and stamina to see this one through, won't be pretty, and may require some moment of brilliance but I think we'll do it. My bet will be 3-2. COYW
17.) 04 Dec 2024 13:41:27
Some very valid comments on here. Bringing in mediocrity during the summer window hasn’t helped. Jury out on GON but when I hear the likes of Moyes banded around plus some others I begin to wonder if perhaps we’d be better off sticking with what we’ve got. Big Sam was always the answer to keeping sides up until one day he didn’t! Lopetegue hanging by a thread I see.
18.) 04 Dec 2024 14:44:16
Again it’s different perceptions Abbey, to me shi said everything in his statement in may, we are building a self sustaining club. I’ve said before his comments weren’t worded in the best way, but to me he was saying the process will take a while to build us in to a team that can push for Europe more regularly. 6 month isn’t a long time so I don’t know what you expect him to say that is new. From what I’ve seen we will be bringing in at least 1 cb in jan. Being disappointed we didn’t replace Neto with experience or similar ability doesn’t make sense to me as surely that replacement would cost similar if not more than we got for Neto. Also was Neto a 60mil player when he joined us? Developing players is a good if not the only way to make big money in football. Obviously we would all like the mol to be developed more and yes that is a disappointment but does it indicate fosun have lost interest? I’m not so sure.
19.) 04 Dec 2024 14:46:05
Goat you did call it boring in an earlier comment because I posted something on this subject, but that's your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to hold it. I wish it would go away, I really do.
Nobody wants to be negative but I think Abbey has summed it up perfectly and the lack of communication just re-enforces those views. I'm also not sure GON will be sacked unless we get slaughtered at Everton and West Ham, the defense will be re-enforced in January and they'll give him chance to turn it round. That's just what I think they will do, rightly or wrongly.
Incidentally, the club does or always used to follow the different forums quite closely to gauge the fans mood, unless they've given up on that. So never give them 10 out 10 as we need to keep them on their toes, lol.
20.) 04 Dec 2024 14:16:48
Well its GON for the foreseeable 47Vintage, these two games this week will be a deciding factors one way or the other, we just have to keep the faith whilst biting nails and sometime cursing.
21.) 04 Dec 2024 15:31:41
Goatmark I'm not contending anything you say, I guess we're all feeling a little 'nervous" over things and looking to blame, but we can't sit quietly hoping we're in good hands and that all will be OK. This forum gives us, well me anyway, the means to discuss my concerns now I don't get out and about so much.
So I'll try and shut up about it now. Concentrate on tonight and if all goes well we'll have moved on tomorrow.
22.) 04 Dec 2024 16:20:46
Not meaning to cause any offence or to make people shut btw. Believe me I’m hoping what I believe is right. Don’t want to admit that fosun don’t have our best interest at heart. I understand fully the frustrations and other views. Fingers crossed we can all laugh about it in a few seasons when we are making progress and not fights at the bottom of the prem.
03 Dec 2024 12:56:17
Does anyone else think that we'll probably beat or at least, get something away, at Everton and West Ham. If so, are we becoming an away side whilst struggling with the expectation of winning just because we're playing at home. In other words the opposite of what you would expect.
I know we beat Southampton at home but the performance at Fulham was vastly better, imo, than that and a country mile away from what they produced against Bournemouth.
Is their confidence so fragile that they can only turn it on when expectations of a result are reduced, or is it because GON sets the side up differently away and that just works better.
What is interesting is that Fulham who are playing well of late lost to us but in their very next game against Tottenham played very well again. I know Cunha was on fire that day but to me it really looked like as a team, we had turned a corner.
I suspect there will be bumps in the road to come but was that just a one off or was it the performance against Bournemouth? I can't decide.
1.) 03 Dec 2024 13:10:51
I suppose time will tell Long
2.) 03 Dec 2024 13:50:35
I honestly expect us to beat Everton, and I think (hoping) the players will have a point to prove against West ham. I think we might get a draw at WHU. Not enough for me though to save GON. He's still not good enough in the PL to move us forward if we can even survive this season. Not sure who can move us forward mind you, but that's another debate.
3.) 03 Dec 2024 14:03:33
Not sure that you are right about the performance against Fulham. Let's not forget that our goal frame was shaken on three occasions so apart from two worldies from Cunha the result could have been very different.
I'm not confident that we will get much from the next two games as teams now see us as vulnerable so they will be confident against us.
4.) 03 Dec 2024 14:07:30
The big worry for me is more to do with how games are being lost. A number of games already a draw should have been achievable, only to throw away a lead and come home with nothing. This is the biggest reason GON should be moved on. When it comes to the end of the season and those 5 or 6 points or even 1 point could be the difference between survival it's where we could be found wanting if it's to be a relegation fight and not a capitulation like the last relegation from the Premier League.
5.) 03 Dec 2024 14:23:51
Well looking at what happened, firstly Fulham, you quite rightly point out Cunha being on fire that day longmynd, but also we had a make shift situation that may have taken Fulham by surprise and that allowed us to exploit the situation, but also had raul scored and other efforts gone in it may have been different. We also had our luck that day.
Bournmouth, we didn't prepare for the speed and number in their attack, GON's decision to leave Dawson on the bench relying on a midfielder in the back with Totti allowed the high ball over and we conceded the pen. Lemina and a poor semado let us down. Sa I felt slightly for, although careless in not knowing he had a 'man on' gives another pen and attempting to get a needless back pass from Dawson concedes the third. So Bournemouth benefit from our doing.
The point is I think we've been riding our luck, yes we can score but it's the same old story of poor defending that let's us down.
I believe we can win at Everton, GON will set up a different team and we'll play to prove ourselves.
West ham I think we'll be back to 'the norm' it'll be interesting but I'll be surprised if we get more than a draw.
I'm sorry to say I don't believe GON has anything new to offer.
6.) 03 Dec 2024 15:00:18
I think most have concluded it's our defence or on occasion the lack of it, that keeps coming back to bite us. Our goals conceded and the potential scoring opportunities we are handing to the opposition whether they manage to capitalise on them or not, is scandalous.
I suspect the club won't want to pay off GON but have recognised that not replacing Kilman plus one more CH was a major blunder. It wouldn't surprise me if they retain GON but bring in a defender or two (loans) in January in the hope that will fix it.
To quote Wolvo1963 'time will tell I suppose'.
01 Dec 2024 12:17:29
Several of us on here, posters like TFIOG, Bullys and me have been warning this has been coming for several years now and sometimes got berated for doing so.
I'm not here to say "We told you so" but this really is a self fulfilling prophesy coming home to roost. Yes Fosun have spent plenty, not always wisely but in truth thanks to PSR it is the club that has to fund transfers not the owners. The owners roll as I see it is to invest in what they can, if needed and help the club boost it's income to enhance it's potential to recruit/employ well.
That's where it starts to unravel as imo they've failed to do much of that. Diminished funding restricts everything and eventually water finds it's own level. GON may well be failing but with the waters so muddied would any other Coach do much better?
If we lose to Everton and I suppose we'll find out soon enough. If Fosun/Club don't take action to at least try to get the nose up, we're down.
1.) 01 Dec 2024 12:44:56
The record of wins/draws over the last 25 or so matches signals a complete failure from the coach (s). Why on earth a decision hasn't already been made is beyond me, we tend to blame various parties for our demise but the responsibility for team performance falls squarely upon the shoulders of the coach and his staff and it has been very poor for a long time now and what is more frustrating is that we have some very good players from whom they cannot get the best performances so something has to change and soon.
2.) 01 Dec 2024 12:59:40
Hi LongmyndWolf,
I agree in part with what you're saying above, but yesterday was the grass roots basics which we couldn't or didn't get right. Even watching non league football where you can hear pretty much everything, when you score a goal you need to keep it tight because you know the opposition will come directly at you at the KO. Yesterday we equalise to make it 1-1 after camicarzi defending for their first goal. Within seconds of equalising they go down the other end and we concede a needless penalty to which they score. Second half was identical. We scored again to make it 3-2, but with seconds we concede another stupid penalty from which they score. We simply cannot keep a clean sheet. We can debate on how Fosun/Shi are running the club, but that is just downright poor coaching and purely down to GON. As the guy said behind me, he tried the same team that beat Fulham because it worked. Not because we had players back who would better fill those positions. It clearly wasn't working yesterday and he should have made changes earlier. Sorry LMW but that display was purely down to GON IMO.
3.) 01 Dec 2024 13:16:34
Well said Derry.
Team shape and performances fall squarely at the feet of the coaching staff' none of them are up to the job.
Again, Bournemouth didn't get rid of Oniel for keeping them up did they, no' they could see he wasn't a good fit long term or upto the job.
4.) 01 Dec 2024 13:42:38
Im not convinced tbh but no surprise there. I thought the first pen was soft, not a huge amount of contact, if it had been the second or third pen I’m not sure the ref would have given it. Their second goal the defending was poor but ultimately I believe Sa should have saved at his near post. Speaking of Sa he clearly had a poor game, always hot or cold with him imo. His mistakes for the other 2 pens shouldn’t have happened. I know it’s up to Gon to get the team playing well but when it’s individual mistakes I don’t think he can be blamed. Although I do think he should have changed the defence despite last weeks win. Lemina made some crucial blocks but I’m not convinced toti was the best second defender. But again Dawson didn’t cover himself in glory when he came on.
5.) 01 Dec 2024 14:07:45
Tbf to Sa the third pen was on Dawson for his awful backpass.
6.) 01 Dec 2024 14:14:01
Hi Blackfords I wasn't at the match or even in a position to listen to it yesterday but I totally understand the points your making, it does sound like a coaching problem, as no one seemed to understand their roles.
I totally accept that it isn't working with GON, the inconsistency being a prime indicator. He got it right at Fulham but as you suggest it probably needed something different against Bournemouth, that wasn't forthcoming. To play rubbish and win is fine but to play so poorly and lose certainly isn't. Yes, we're going to lose some games but chaos on the pitch is another sure sign of a coaching issue.
However, how did we end up with GON? because our existing 'top manager' walked out on us over the transfer policy or allegedly broken promises and GON was probably a cheaper readily available option.
I accept that we can't afford to repeat yesterdays fiasco. However, if Fosun don't get a grip soon they won't be owners of a Premier League club for too much longer. It all comes from the top and this just ain't working.
7.) 01 Dec 2024 14:30:07
I partly agree Rated but Sa didn’t need to dive in, their player was going away from goal and lemina was back covering. I felt his decision making was very slow yesterday.
8.) 01 Dec 2024 15:44:02
Your right goatmark, but who was the idiot that riled Sa up so much? It obviously got in his head for him to react the way he did going towards the stand and being held back. Mentally he wasn't fully on his game which may explain some of it.
9.) 01 Dec 2024 16:29:57
I guess another so called fan who is supposed to support the team but I’m guessing he was hurling abuse. Probably had a few too many and has the child like mentality of forgetting all the times Sa kept us in games and decided he isn’t good enough and needs to be told. I don’t think it helps the players want to give it their all for the team.
Another positive, villa are struggling and their fans are calling their football terrible. Saying Gerard was a better manager. Guess they have forgotten where they finished last season and trying to juggle champ football. Some fans have such short memories.
10.) 01 Dec 2024 17:41:32
I have backed GON and disagreed with some of the posts on here berating him and believed we would soon be well clear of the relegation zone.
We do look like we are staying in the bottom 4 and no better at the moment but in my opinion we do not have anything like the 15th or 16th worst squad in the league. Based on ability alone we should be top 10 or so.
From this, the blame must fall squarely on the coach who has had plenty of time now to sort his squad and tactics.
I've altered my opinion on GON and now think he's just not good enough and if we persevere with him we will go down. He's had a fair go now and there are no signs of improvement.
If the owners want to keep him as he is so popular with the players (not always a good thing), then at the very least get an experienced and successful defence coach!
Come on Wolves, this is desperate
11.) 01 Dec 2024 18:05:38
Keeping GON WILL SEND US DOWN
27 Nov 2024 11:34:35
So the dust has settled on what was a great result last weekend for so many reasons and we look forward to the visit of Bournemouth, another team playing quite well at the moment. Nevertheless a winnable game as hopefully GON has got through the preliminary stages of getting these players up to speed in the Prem and we can start to look forward to a progressive revival. He did imply that we were indeed moving into that second phase now in a post match interview, a view supported by recent results.
However, something else came to mind, have we seen VAR behaving better towards Wolves? For several years the opposite was the case, a fact born out by the stats. However, I've not seen or heard so much about inexplicable VAR controversy's so far this season with some even going in our favour (unless anyone begs to differ) so I started thinking as to why that might be:
1) VAR adjudication and the rules around it have improved somewhat.
2) We were just unlucky, for a couple of seasons.
3) Refs/VAR know the spotlight is on bias, unconscious or otherwise.
4) Wolves proposal to remove them shook them up a bit and made them think.
5) Our opening 6-7 games were mainly against 'top sides' and due to our circumstances we were losing those games anyway.
If we do recover and start to push on both in terms of performances and league position can we expect further fair and just intervention from VAR when needed, or will we see a return to the bad old days when the outcomes of certain games were definitely influenced to some degree?
So what do we think?
1.) 27 Nov 2024 13:35:11
Hi LM. In regards to your views on VAR I suppose it's just a matter of which team it has disadvantaged in any given week. Barely a week goes by where there isn't some controversy involving VAR in some aspect. I'm fairly sure that we will be disadvantaged again at some point during this season and if we are scratching around for points those decisions could eventually create a very difficult situation for us.
2.) 27 Nov 2024 14:29:56
The John Stones winner against us springs to mind but other than that, I don't think we've had too many decisions against us.
The Cole Palmer goal should have been looked at by VAR and and disallowed as the ball was moving when the free kick was taken.
3.) 27 Nov 2024 16:45:06
It'll be a return to the previous I'm afraid.
4.) 28 Nov 2024 08:26:36
VAR won't go away. Will AI be making impartial decisions? That might level things out, although 'old gold' may not make its algorithm.
22 Nov 2024 12:13:40
Can he play at the back? I shouldn't joke someone at the club might think that's a good idea.
11 Oct 2024 12:20:01
That's potentially about another 6 games Nando. I would have thought if things haven't changed after the next 3 then it'll be game over for GON, which will be a shame, imo.
19 Aug 2024 09:34:05
When have Wolves ever made public their transfer intentions? This window is just following the same pattern as all the other since Fosun took over. We get to hear about a transfer if and when it happens or at least when the deal is done and dusted.
I'm sure they are working on deals, some will happen, some won't. The wisdom of selling your best players before you sign others is the questionable strategy. The price we pay for Wolves having to become 'self sufficient' I suppose, money in before money out.
14 Aug 2024 09:54:16
Both I think is the short answer Rollo if reports are to be believed. As you say Sa has been linked with a move to Saudi for £20M so this may a 'no or low cost' move.
31 Aug 2023 21:32:55
Totally agree WolvesNutta, if that's true, welcome Che would be my reaction. However, I thought Southampton wanted to tie him down to a new contract first, maybe they have or will.
This season may be more interesting than many have predicted and we may yet be glad that Nunes did a runner. It seems to have opened the floodgates a bit.
Time will tell, of course, but I'd rather have a team of players who actually want to be here.
05 Dec 2024 16:58:09
As things stand Wandering probably no one would.
Someone wrote that the Club acknowledges that they let GON down in the last window but I'd be surprised if, nevertheless, they weren't talking to potential replacements or at least the rumours seem to imply that they are.
So without going over old ground will Fosun's stated desire to stay in the Premier League be at all cost. If it's yes, then they may be forced to change their ways simply to attract a Manager/Coach good enough to pull us out of the mire. That would be music to my ears because it would not only give us chance to survive this season, but in future ones as well.
05 Dec 2024 15:25:03
I doubt it Mikebayleaf1, in the Prem £500M in the Championship about £100-150M Plus whatever they rake in from top player sales and wages. I think they would still lose far more if relegated.
05 Dec 2024 13:33:49
Nice on Handsome but what is weird for a team in our situation Matheus Cunha occupies three slots in the MoTD goal of the month awards.
05 Dec 2024 13:28:01
Acle I doubt GON will be sacked today or any other day in the near future, otherwise he would be gone by now.
He has literally just been given a 4 year contract and we have not yet reached the January window when defensive re-enforcements could be sorted.
Maybe the club are searching for a replacement but can you think of any half decent football manager who would take this on given our backstory?
04 Dec 2024 23:11:23
Preston 'go watch the boggies then' is exactly what we will be doing next season if this carry's on. I've always felt GON was given a poisonous chalice and needed more backing and still do, but I realise that he is not going to turn this around.