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22 Oct 2021 16:57:14
Kevin Thelwell allegedly being linked to the Director of Football post at Newcastle.
1.) 23 Oct 2021 13:11:25
Indeed, maybe he is being head hunted or maybe New York was only meant to be temporary. I hope its the former.
19 Oct 2021 12:52:23
Media reporting that a US investment firm have acquired a minority share in Fosun Sports to help Wolves crack the American market.
From the Shropshire Star: "Chicago-based PEAK6 Investments will inject fresh funds, as well as offer expertise and give Wolves a presence in the US, as the club attempts to expand their reach across the pond".
1.) 19 Oct 2021 15:14:21
This was all part of the plan to build our brand across the globe and increase our revenue streams.
2.) 19 Oct 2021 21:57:55
Sounds good!
3.) 20 Oct 2021 08:22:50
Will they invest in the next generation of fans who are on “the waiting list” and are going to be lost by the Club forever, we’re being left behind in the stadium stakes, shouldn’t Fosun be “building the brand” in Wolverhampton and surrounding areas before targeting the rest of the World.
4.) 20 Oct 2021 08:57:37
Good and fair point Oxley but sadly the reality is that to compete we need an international revenue base.
Gate money is becoming an ever diminishing part of the revenue pie for the "big clubs" despite the huge stadiums and v high ticket prices they can charge and I don't see how we can compete any other way? .
Consequently whilst I agree a bigger stadium would be great the priority should be 1. Team 2. Team 3. Team 4 International brand (which actually costs v little if 1,2 and 3 are in place) and 5 Stadium (which has a long and high risk payback for the investment made - as older Wolves fans will recall all too well! )
If money is short push 4 and 5 back and have another 4 Team! |!
5.) 20 Oct 2021 13:26:02
Part of the attraction of watching the champions league and World Cup on tv is to see the magnificent stadiums. How can we attract all these new overseas fans if we have a small uninspiring stadium?
If the stadium doesn’t matter why don’t the England international games get played around the country at stadiums such as Burnley, Birmingham etc.
6.) 20 Oct 2021 13:46:12
Tbf E mate would you want to go to Burnley? :P
But on a serious note the stadium does need upgrading something like 12,000 on waiting list for tickets so increasing the capacity by 15,000 would go a very long way, it should have been done when matches were played with no fans imo.
7.) 20 Oct 2021 13:54:57
E from W.
We can attract new overseas fans by having a cracking good and successful team. The stadium will follow only when we are fully established at a higher level. England games need to be played in large stadiums for obvious reasons.
8.) 20 Oct 2021 15:55:16
The stadium project will have no bearing on our ability to spend unless it is paid for by incoming revenue. Fosun can and will build the stadium once all of the options are explored such as do they knock down or enhance current stands. If for instance they knocked down an entire stand, this would reduce income which in turn affects our ability to spend. If we do what Liverpool are doing with the Anfield Rd stand, this would mean the existing stand stays open whilst initial work is completed and then only closed for the bare minimum time until completion. This option would not affect our income as much as the stand will be open for longer. Obviously in that scenario, option 2 would be the best way to go. The only issue is the land surrounding Molineux. I know a colleague who has sat in on the strategic meetings re the Stadium and the club want to remove the dual carriageway, subway and buy out the Asda. This would give them a vast amount of land but at the moment there are a lot of hurdles in the way. A number of options are being looked at.
9.) 20 Oct 2021 17:14:35
Just a thought I wonder if it may be possible to play at the commonwealth games stadium in Perry Barr for one season after 2022, meaning that intensive work could be completed at Molineux without impacting the revenue stream.
10.) 20 Oct 2021 19:27:53
DT What is the benefit of attracting these overseas fans who couldn’t point to Molineux on a map when we are locking out the local next generation who want to attend the games? How Will the club make money from these new overseas fans?
The top European teams play in the top stadiums.
11.) 20 Oct 2021 22:40:30
E there are two issues here.
Firstly overseas fans generate revenues via sponsorship deals, overseas TV deals, merchandising etc which, despite the top teams playing as you state in big stadiums, generate far more revenue for the big teams than the gate money does. This would be the same for Wolves. Sad but true the game is now all about Sponsorhip, TV and Merchandising not gate money!
Real fans don't count as much as TV fans!
Secondly the stadium is only full, (and has a waiting list for tickets), because the team is doing well. It wasn't long ago that the stadium wasn't full!
So building a white elephant stand/ stadium instead of investing in the team - and Fosun aren't a charity and will only invest money they can get a return on and an empty Stand/ stadium doeSn't give a return - would be plain daft.
Once the team is strengthened to the extent we are etablished- which we aren't yet - in the top end of the Prem a new stand/ stadium can be built which will give us greater revenues increasing the virtuous circle.
Finally TV fans/ sponsors don't give a monkeys about the stadium - just the team/ results.
This may all seem cold and hard for real fans to accept but it is business and that is what Fosun is a business.
12.) 21 Oct 2021 00:44:29
Are these new overseas fans already fans of other clubs that we intend to convert to Wolves fans by our attractive playing style and gold shirts or are they fans that are not currently attached to any other club?
Do they intend to ever visit Molineux?
If so where will they sit?
What merchandise will they purchase to make our team better and sustain players wages of £100,000 per week?
Why would they attach themselves to Wolves when top European clubs stadiums look fantastic on tv and our stadium tv view is dominated by away fans along the top of the screen?
13.) 21 Oct 2021 03:01:50
I would assume that most fans in America/ China/ India/ Malaya etc etc or any other major non European/ south American market we may look to exploit don't "support" a team in the way you and I do but will watch/ follow any team that wins - like in fact millions of people in the UK - the average Man U fan lives in Bournemouth and like these "new" fans will never visit the stadium of the team they follow.
if we get followers in new markets sponsors from those markets will want to associate themselves with us paying us money - check out the accounts of Man u etc - this is where they make the money. In 2020 over 50% of united's £500+m of revenue came from commercial activities - sponsorship/ merchandising etc.
In the year to May 2019 - the year we came 7th and weren't affected by C.V. our gate Receipts were just over £11m out of turnover for Wolves of £172m so even doubling the stadium is irrelevant financially.
The big clubs make hundreds of millions from overseas activities sponsorship, tv rights etc if we want to compete sadly it is the only way.
In answer to your last q - because the team wins it has absolutely nothing to do with the stadium.
How else do you define the big teams or how do you think they became big teams - the big 6 in England win all the trophies.
Its actually v simple - win matches money rolls in lose matches you have an empty stadium and no money
So to win matches you have to invest in the team and that requires revenue streams and as shown above they don't come from stadiums but commercial activities sponsorship/ merchandising so in this instance I can't complain at all about what Fosun are attempting to do ie develop commercial activities in the US markets.
14.) 21 Oct 2021 09:34:52
Good thread, I think Jas recently quoted Fosun as worth about 180 billion, they are a commercial company and I its probably a reasonable assumption that they have some experience of marketing and brand growth. We all want to see success and all know its not guaranteed however if it does suddenly happen out of the blue the club needs a slick marketing function that can respond quickly and cash in as quickly as possible. So whilst I would love to see a 50k capacity back asap no complaints from me about the marketing ambitions of the club. Realising thise ambitions may not happen quickly though.
15.) 22 Oct 2021 09:57:37
Arddunby - I have criticised lots of aspects of Fosun's reign - whilst acknowledging that relative to previous regimes of the last 50 years its has been amazingly succesful!
As I am v v greedy and like "Oliver" I want more before it is too late for me!
The transfer dealing of the last two years - and I know people have defendeed Shi and the club strongly against my view - have been v poor (no point rehashing as we all know the facts) and to date our exploitation of the brand in overseas markets and in the UK has been v modest ( the accounts prove this - sorry dull I know! ) .
However the recent steps show that we, as a club, are addressing the key issue of revenue streams and with Lage getting the team to play good stuff (some of the time) and win (some of the time - although oddly rarely it seems doing both at the same time! ) I am pretty excited and happy that we are moving in the right direction - albeit slower than I greedily want!
16.) 22 Oct 2021 11:06:32
Future I think we are probably in a longer transition period. than some of us realised. I recognise the ambition of the club and totally agree with your analysis about gate receipts not being a large part of revenue stream. I'm not a business analyst but if I was I would hazard a guess that investing in a new stadium compared to marketing would produce a significantly lower rate of return in both the short and long term. The more I think about it the more I realise what a difficult job Fosun have undertaken. Most of the other clubs that were taken over in the Prem era were established Prem clubs with existing 40K+ capacity and in the early days no need to worry about FFP either So the kitchen sink could be thrown at team rebuilding. Just for the record I believe we are watching the most consistently successful side since 71 to 74, yes that could change as with any club and I do not want to go back to continual championship struggles or worse.
17.) 22 Oct 2021 11:48:50
Arddunby - polish up your CV. There is a job as a business analyst waiting for you in the "City" as you are spot on with everything you say.
Also remember in 71-74 football was a lot simpler as no one had any money and it was all about talent development/ scouting, tactics etc.
Hence Ipswich for example could be a European super power on the back of Bobby Robson and Derby and Forest bestrode the game as a consequence of the genius that was Brian Clough.
Now the CEO/ owner is the most important person at the club as the game is simply about money and global money at that.
Hence Chelsea are European Champions and the big 6 exist and have won virtually all of the domestic trophies for many many years now.
In Fosun we have a pretty good owner but as you say it is going to be v v hard as the big 6 aren't going to let us take their ball away without a fight ( and a dirty one at that! ) .
I also struggle to see Newcastle sweeping to the top any time soon despite the owners ambitions as the big 6 will ensure every barrier that can be put in their path will be.
Leicester, WH and one or two others including hopefully us are pushing at the door but it isn't going to be easy and I accept patience - not something io have in abundance is going to be needed. [I guess that is why I am so intolerant of the obvious mistakes made by the club in the last 2 years - we were/ are close to becoming a member of the big "7" (or 6 or 8? ) but we have v v few chances to cross the divide and mistakes that put us back a couple of years and several places in the league are thus v hard to stomach! ].
18.) 22 Oct 2021 19:58:59
Great thread gents good to read. I've always thought and obviously this is just a personal view that the building of the John Ireland stand was a totally wasted opportunity. For me once the clock and the stand went it was a chance to go and build an out of town stadium with space around it so it would be easier to cope with crowds and keeping visiting crowds out of the town centre. I guess even then it wouldn't get support from everyone but maybe people would see the logic. I think even now it would make sense and easier to manage crowds and think of the multi use it could have with easier motorway accessif built in the right place. Not needing so many reasons for not having events and generating funds for the club? As I said only my opinion back then we had massive crowds crammed in. Obviously you can't do that anymore.
19.) 22 Oct 2021 21:15:28
Ken - also apologises to you for not replying re Derek Parkin.
Surely if Terry Cooper - one of the best 3 English LBS in my life time ( Cole and Sansom being the other 2) had not played at the same time he would have got a bucket load of caps. V solid player in a team that was - even including Nuno's team - our most succesful side since the 50s!
20.) 22 Oct 2021 22:00:04
future you are right in that respect Derek just arrived at the right time for us but not for England. Great shame. Likewise for quite a few players back then. Kenny Hibbit for a start though I think he played for the Football League in a representative game against Italy I think or maybe that's in my imagination!
21.) 23 Oct 2021 13:16:38
The old Division 1 was full of English International calibre players back in the 70's, John Richards being another who missed out. How we failed to qualify for the later stages of international tournaments from 1972 to 1980 is baffling to me.
22.) 24 Oct 2021 11:00:08
Arddunby and Ken - it was a strange period. The "greats" according to the fans - Bowles, Marsh, Hudson, Currie, Mckenzie, Worthington, Osgood etc etc were not really recognised by England but Peter Storey, Brian Greenhof, Mike Pejic, Bob Latchford, Trevor Cherry and countless other solid uninspiring journeymen were often choosen.
Sadly not unlike many Wolves fans today the various England managers of the 70's weren't too keen on erratic skill and preferred stable solidity - Brian Greenhof and Peter Storey probably got more caps than Hudson and Currie!
ps Ken I had purple velvet flairs in the late 60s and lots of flower power shirts and big big ties!
Maybe the 60s and 70s weren't all that great after all!
23.) 24 Oct 2021 20:18:25
Future you're correct and you've failed to mention the greatest manager of the period who was regularly overlooked.
24.) 24 Oct 2021 20:40:09
future and I thought we had great taste and pride in what we wore, or maybe not!
19 Aug 2021 09:55:35
Barcelona have offered Wolves Ilaix Moriba for £12.8M, apparently.
1.) 21 Aug 2021 18:59:56
So when you lot are cheering for that two faced scab person tomorrow just remember that if he had been offered the arsenal job he would have been gone like a bullet. How he engineered a way out and will probably try and poach our best players. Horrible bloke. No time for him whatsoever.
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18 Oct 2021 07:44:18
Well that was a weekend to remember, Villa proving they are better than even Man City. at emptying their ground. Sorry to all the sensible Villa fans but that was quick, probably a Premier League record.
1.) 18 Oct 2021 12:58:08
Sure was mate.
Another tough away game infront of another big home crowd at Elland Road.
We are along with Chelsea the inform premier league team going on last 5 matches won 4 lost 1.
Arsenal win agaisnt Palace tonight they will be the outright form team on last 5 matches won 4 drawn 1.
Even though our wins wasn't through fluid attacking football we got the results.
On my phone on premier league fixtures and table the league table shows the last 5 games win draw or lose.
Ed001 Mo Salah what a pass with the outside of his left peg inch perfect for Mane goal and another quality pure quality quick feet and goal.
Good to see Bobby score a hatrick too.
{Ed001's Note - it was a great day to be a Liverpool fan to be fair. It was a top class all round performance, but Salah still made everyone else look average!}
2.) 18 Oct 2021 18:18:32
Interesting stats Phil, I wonder if we're going on a long winning run that Lage has got form for.
It's results that matter and a decent winning run right now would do nicely.
Big away crowds with the usual vocal Wolves support seem to spur us on, so fingers crossed for this weekend.
3.) 18 Oct 2021 19:53:20
Whilst remaining totally positive I suspect Leeds will be a very tough game. Mind you who knows with our lads sometimes they make the impossible look attainable! Still quite high after the amazing comeback win tbh. Look out Leeds if we are in the mood!
4.) 19 Oct 2021 06:28:50
Football as it is a win agaisnt Leeds the feel good continues a lose at Leeds dragging myself around the floor deflated lol its what's it all about.
Arsenal 2 apiece agaisnt Palace we 10th after this last weekends round of matches Alrighty?.
5.) 19 Oct 2021 09:32:30
Take nothing for granted, Leeds are going to be a tough nut to crack. If we can perform like we did earlier on then we should take it, but, as ever, who knows which wolves will turn up. I'm full of confidence we can get another 3 points but every game seems to be a new experience.
6.) 19 Oct 2021 10:14:14
No easy games, yes Leeds will be tough despite their current low position and it looks like we may be back to the old rollercoaster rides that we all used to experience not just on a seasonal basis but match to match, frustrating as it was!
7.) 19 Oct 2021 15:56:04
On radio this morning they were discussing Arsenal after last night's game and then giving their verdict on other clubs so far this season. Arsenal, Villa, Leeds, Palace, Leicester, Brentford and Brighton are all doing well, whereas Wolves are underperforming and form suggests a relegation battle. Then another expert pointed out that we were actually higher in the table than all of the teams mentioned bar Brighton and Brentford.
And no it wasn't Gabby talking his usual Anti Wolves nonsense.
8.) 19 Oct 2021 16:54:49
Has since when have "experts" ever spouted anything but tripe that the average fan couldn't do better! Except maybe the few neanderthals that cause and give football fans a bad name!
9.) 19 Oct 2021 19:08:24
As Phil pointed out earlier Jas Wolves are the joint (with Chelsea) top form team in the Prem based on the last 5 games. Who was it, let's hope he feels suitably embarrassed?
You do have to wonder who employs these clowns and why?
10.) 19 Oct 2021 20:45:03
Apologies Jas my reply autocorrected to say Has damn the thing it was meant for you! Sorry about that.
11.) 19 Oct 2021 22:22:59
Other than first season back in premier league under Nuno where we were given credit for good performances and results against the top teams we do seem to be largely ignored or under-estimated by the big name pundits - not necessarily a bad thing to go under the radar a little though as long as players we try to sign (and their agents) notice the potential of the club.
12.) 19 Oct 2021 22:23:34
Just heard Gabby spouting off about how good are and how they'll be pushing for top 6 this season whilst we were lucky and will be facing a relegation battle.
Ken68, no need to apologise.
13.) 20 Oct 2021 06:49:34
Gabby is a tool I switch talk sport off when he’s on he needs to take his villa rose tinted glasses off he’s so biased he once said Grealish is better than Gascoigne.
I just hope wolves make him eat his words this year.
14.) 20 Oct 2021 08:28:22
We stay under the radar go quietly and confidently about our business with the majority of fans staying humble and honest about our prospects is what we are imo.
Long may our winning streak continue.
15.) 20 Oct 2021 10:48:28
I remember 2 league Cup finals and got no praise and also reaching a final of importance against spurs when gary newbon said it was a 2nd rate trophy but couldn't shut him up when vile won the league Cup. As for that gabby bloke I just turn him off and laugh.
16.) 20 Oct 2021 11:31:38
Just to add to the fun, Agbonlahor mentioned Neves's 'wayward free kick' on Football Insider that only went in due to a deflection. That was probably on target but would have been saved. No mention of McGinn's deflected goal that would definitely have been saved by Sa if not for it hitting Neves.
17.) 20 Oct 2021 11:52:26
First of all Villadaz gets huge credit on here for his generous comments-not sure I would have the same generosity if the roles were reversed!
Secondly, it remains to be seen in the long term if the results at the moment are papering over the cracks with reference to the actual play and form. The spirit and attitude is there, but will the lack of quality have ultimate consequences?
Finally a bit of advice to those listening and watching for praise regarding our club. Don't waste your energy. Wolves have been reviled, hated, and disregarded nationally since the early 1960's. Anyone who watched Match of the Day last Saturday with the disgusting analysis will know where I am coming from. I am guessing a lot of the ill educated analysis on the radio is Talksport? I stopped listening to that a long time ago. Talentless presenters, talentless ex footballers and joke journalists in my view.
18.) 20 Oct 2021 12:29:16
SQ, I don't know your generation but I can tell you that I have never encountered hate towards wolves, in fact we have always been regarded as a giant after our 50s exploits. People around my area wanted us to beat all of Spurs, City and Forest finals, even now when I'm out in my ww clobber I always get a thumbs up or positive comment. I have to admit I think the Charisma of Nuno and our rapid success took some by surprise. But the ignorance on TV and press is really because they're selling to the urban 'big 6' because that's where the money is. As I say maybe it's a generational thing, or location, or that the majority of 'not really football fans' wear man u, Chelsea, arsenal, Liverpool spurs or man city shirts. Whatever they see us as the old relative who's past it. Fosuns and now peak6 ambition may see the tide change in coming seasons.
19.) 20 Oct 2021 13:42:24
Funnily enough Abbey I tend to have similar experiences. For the first couple of years since our promotion we seemed to be everyone's 2nd favourite team because we were beating the so called 'big six'.
More recently, I walked through Schiphol airport with my black training top on under my open jacket and one of the staff spotted the Wolves logo. It took me 10 minutes to get away. Love it.
20.) 20 Oct 2021 13:47:47
Good to see you back posting SQ mate.
21.) 20 Oct 2021 14:58:55
Cheers Rated-hope you are well.
22.) 20 Oct 2021 15:45:04
I agree about papering over the cracks to a certain extent sq, I don't think Saiss is good enough defensively but occasionally pop's up with a crucial goal, I can't understand why Boly hasn't been bought back into the team yet, as in my opinion he is our best defender at the club.
Lage obviously see's something the great unwashed does not.
06 Oct 2021 08:15:22
I want to pose a serious question. Are the FA really dedicating themselves to stamping out head injuries?
When did it become acceptable for an attacking footballer to go into a challenge feet first against a goalkeeper whose coming out head first, going to ground to collect the ball? It was always the case that the attacking player was expected to pull out, jump over the keeper and not make contact.
How did the referee know that Sa didn't have a head injury, in truth he didn't. Not only no foul but he seemed more interested in keeping the game going than attending to Sa's situation, then justified it when questioned by Neves:
"We spoke to the ref and he said he didn't stop the game because Sa got up".
He could still have had a head injury, then there's last years injury to Jimenez still no foul. Had Luiz have broken his leg it would have been a red and a lengthy ban. Discuss.
{Ed002's Note - There will always be some situations where there is contact. The efforts are made to reduce head injuries as far as is possible.}
1.) 06 Oct 2021 08:34:37
With respect Ed that's not my point. Accidental contact head to head happens, eg, Dendoncker/ Mendy last year, I get that. But to challenge a goalkeeper, on the ground feet first has never been acceptable. Similarly, Raul's injury last year was not 'a clash of heads' it was a challenge resulting in a fractured skull, again no foul, apparently.
{Ed002's Note - And of course things will always get missed.}
2.) 06 Oct 2021 09:13:32
Missed or dismissed? Hard to miss someone clattering into a goalkeeper feet first while they're on the floor. My point is simply that referees are not applying themselves consistently to this issue and too often these situations are just shrugged off.
{Ed002's Note - I would not see a referee dismissing something like that. Due to the human aspect of decision making you can only strive for consistently having the same results I am afraid. It is obviously unfortunate.}
3.) 06 Oct 2021 11:15:03
Just a thought!
In all sports where contact is allowed and football is one, there will be times when injury occurs. The momentum of players going into a tackle or challenging for a ball does mean that on many occasions contact will be made. The game has changed due to the better fitness of players and the faster pace and skills of players . Society has become more aware over the years of potential serious injury and particularly head injuries. The campaign to stop youngsters heading the ball and the advent of concussion substitutes in football and rugby are examples of the way things have improved. However, playing contact sports will never be totally without risk. The incident with Sa was in my view just players challenging for the ball. There was no intent to hurt or foul the keeper. Yes his head was struck accidentally. He also got back to his feet very quickly when he realised the game was proceeding. As a supporter it was disappointing that a goal was scored when he was clambering back into position. However, I don’t believe that under these circumstances it relates to not being aware of the concussion protocols. Anyone who plays this game does so knowing that injury can occur. We have all taken the risk and many of us more so in days gone by with inferior equipment and the old leather case ball that nearly knocked you out when it got wet due to the increase in weight. Society has become risk adverse but contact sports by their very definition mean risk is present. In short I agree with being careful but not every challenge or tackle where contact is made means they game should be stopped.
We would end up with a disruption of the spectacle of the game we love. A foul is a deliberate act to gain an advantage. In the case of the Sa incident I believe it was not deliberate and unfortunately for Wolves the ref got it right.
4.) 06 Oct 2021 13:52:10
As I commented on here a few minutes after the collision Sa should have stayed down and causing the ref to make a decision. By getting up he saved the ref from having to make one. I'm not being critical of Sa it was a natural thing for him to do to help the team. I didn't see it as a foul simply a fair challenge albeit with contact. I think Bruno's instruction in future will be stay down and make the ref make a decision.
5.) 06 Oct 2021 15:42:55
My point was Ken that Sa shouldn't have to think like that, the game should have been stopped immediately and it's not about the goal. Personally, I think the game has gone a bit 'soft' as it is a contact sport, so long as the contact is both fair and proportionate.
Contact between boots/ legs and someones head is neither fair nor a 50/ 50 challenge. But as ExRef pointed out there is more awareness now about head injuries so I was a bit puzzled to see that on this occasion keeping the game going seemed more important. I would have felt the same if a Wolves player clattered into an opposition keeper.
6.) 06 Oct 2021 19:27:18
I take your point and agree with you all I meant was that I thought that the ref looked like he 2as going to blow but Sa jumped up quickly and dashed back towards his goal making the ref think he was OK then going down again when the ball was in the net. Who'd be a ref! Though he was poor throughout the game.
{Ed002's Note - You are right Ken - the refs do not have an easy time.}
7.) 07 Oct 2021 23:40:21
The problem is Long that whilst I entirely agree with your premise (who couldn't) it unfortunately completely discounts the biggest problems refs have to deal with and that is cheating! If we are saying that for any potiential/ possible head injury (regardless of seriousness) then play is immediately stopped then we will never see a counter attack again! You watch footballers who get injured on the byline and what do they do?! That's right, they ACTUALLY role back onto the field to slow down play, which is nuts when you think about it! Again, I agree with you premise (that head injuries need to be taken more seriously) BUT for that to happen properly then football needs to stop shamelessly turning a blind eye to cheating and that (sadly) ain't going to happen any time soon! It boils my blood when commentators say 'that's a professional foul, he's taken one for the team' cause what they should be saying is 'cheat, that there is a massive cheat'! Players/ clubs need to start being called out for it, they do in rugby and its the only way we'll see change! Footballers should feel embarrassed by cheating, instead we call it 'experience', 'being clever' and 'gamesmanship' ?.
8.) 08 Oct 2021 10:01:22
Bully - absolutely brilliant post!
A I have said before clearly many teams must have "cheating tuesday" training session as they do it so well and so often.
I am proud that Nuno made it clear that we dont/ won't cheat - although even then we had the Coady and Silva diving incidents - but we do suffer terribly as most refs totally fail to punish cheating sides indeed some seemingly condone it and even support it.
For a moment forget Wolves - who are presumably just viewed as a stupid and naive team- surely it must be stamped out for the good of the National side if for nothing else as non cheating requires players to have much higher football skill levels and that can't be a bad thing for England can it?
9.) 08 Oct 2021 10:59:55
Good points Bully's Boy/ O;d Gold it does complicate matters and is something that had crossed my mind. As you say it already goes on with players feigning fouls and injury for tactical advantage, which is a cultural thing based around what you get away with. If this could be stamped out then the games could really flow with less interruptions.
I'm probably more sensitive to this particular issue being a former goalkeeper (amateur) and my background exposing me to the consequences of head injuries, concussions, etc which can of course, prove fatal.
10.) 08 Oct 2021 23:48:47
Cheers gents, straight back at ya (good posts:) And as is often the case TFG I agree with your 'cheat tuesday' comment. Not sure how true it is but they always used to say that Jose would regularly tell his back line to ensure they 'shared' the yellow cards during his time at Chelsea! The whole of football is rife with it and I can only speak for myself but it really is starting to put me right off a game I've always loved! ?.
20 Sep 2021 13:33:32
Wolves have apparently collaborated with Warner ADA to launch a Wolves record label, seriously.
Let's hope Lage can use it to get the team all singing from the same hymn sheet.
1.) 20 Sep 2021 14:51:37
Its a rocket up the backside is what they want, Marcal, Saiss, Trincoa, Neves, should be dropped to the bench and replaced with Nouri, Boly, Podense, Donk. Probably sounds harsh on Neves, But his constant crying and holding his face or legs everytime he is tackled is starting to boil my P1$$ a bit.
We need an injection of urgency, we have a big enough squad to change it about.
2.) 20 Sep 2021 22:48:18
Maybe we should put the U23's out. They seem to score everytime I watch them! ?.
3.) 20 Sep 2021 23:53:09
This is a major move by Fosun. They've appointed one of the biggest and best names in the industry in Peter Rudge.
4.) 21 Sep 2021 08:15:23
Wish they would spend more time and money on the team and stadium tbh.
5.) 21 Sep 2021 13:14:06
No they've spent a lot on youngsters who never get a chance, Time the young and hungry were unleashed, kick a few of the overpaid prima donnas up the bum.
09 Sep 2021 12:36:41
Fun fact. George Russell who will be replacing Bottas and partnering Lewis Hamilton next season in the Mercedes F1 team is, in fact, a Wolves fan and his dad is a season ticket holder. He's faster than Traore, apparently.
Apologies to those who already knew this.
1.) 09 Sep 2021 13:35:51
Hi Longmynd,
I can think of one famous wolves fan, Robert Plant wonder if you or anyone else knows anymore?
2.) 09 Sep 2021 13:40:04
Ps my favourite music band UB40,
Robert plant and UB40 I'll be your baby tonight.
3.) 09 Sep 2021 13:48:51
I got it wrong robert palmer with UB40
I go and give my head a wobble.
Sorry.
4.) 09 Sep 2021 14:50:05
Roland Orzabal from Tears for Fears
Suzi Perry, Denis Irwin, George Best, Eric Idle, Kevin Rowland (Dexys Midnight Runners), Ben Bevan, John Lloyd, Steve Edge, and Mark Hamill (yes, Luke Skywalker)
5.) 09 Sep 2021 15:19:02
Nice 1 Jas,
I thought of another,
Jaqueline Oakley, from Codsall 1st female football commentator I believe on MOTD.
6.) 09 Sep 2021 15:24:06
Don't forget Noddy Holder and Slade, and former Deep Purple Bass/ Vocalist Glenn Hughes.
7.) 09 Sep 2021 16:36:37
There's a couple I know off Suzi Perry, Beberly Knight, Former WWE star Sin Cara, Clint Marshall, Andy Murray, Mike Tyson (the last 2 are taken from birmingham mail)
8.) 09 Sep 2021 16:37:45
Apparantly George Best was a fan too.
9.) 09 Sep 2021 16:59:36
Edit Jas already mentioned Perry and Best.
10.) 09 Sep 2021 17:45:14
Sir Edward Elgar
Tito Jackson
COYW.
11.) 09 Sep 2021 17:46:44
I believe Edward Elgar was supposed to be a fan as well.
12.) 09 Sep 2021 18:56:42
Elgar used to cycle from Malvern to home games. From a TV program about him and his life.
13.) 09 Sep 2021 20:06:05
Elgar apparently wrote the first football chant, something like ' he kicked the leather ' I think. Its more a song. I heard a rendition of it on QI or similar, it's awful, but it's for wolves by renown English composer so I'll take it.
14.) 10 Sep 2021 03:13:05
Sue Lawley the "Nationwide" presenter from the 70s and I think Mark Speight from Art Atack a childrens tv show is a fan as well.
15.) 10 Sep 2021 07:47:09
Hi Phil789, sorry for the late reply, just dealing with all the stuff needed following 2 weeks in the Netherlands visiting family.
Some really interesting names put forward, some I'd forgotten about.
I've always liked the Elgar stories about him cycling from Malvern to the games, imagine that. However, I think he was also sweet on a certain young lady in Wolverhampton, as well.
16.) 10 Sep 2021 07:52:16
One final one we've all forgotten about. Didn't Mark Hamill aka Luke Skywalker get roped into the Pack by some Wolves fans on twitter.
{Ed001's Note - yes he did. I remember that.}
17.) 10 Sep 2021 09:24:51
Sound Longmynd?
All is great being a wolves fan with like minded on here.
May the force be with you. ?.
18.) 10 Sep 2021 11:35:00
Apologies Jas, looks like you beat me to the Mark Hamill one. Need to get my reading glasses on.
19.) 11 Sep 2021 00:49:49
Andy Murray became a "Wolves Fan" after being taken to a few games by his then coach David Lloyd who is a lifelong fan.
10 Jun 2021 15:18:06
According to 'Inside Futbol' the Nuno to Crystal Palace deal that was looking done and dusted is off, due to additional demands the club won't meet. Interesting to see if this one has any substance.
1.) 10 Jun 2021 17:35:01
Is it possible Nuno's requirements are too demanding and were also do for Jeff?
2.) 10 Jun 2021 17:48:17
Apparently nuno wanted to take his own back staff and palace wanted to retain those left by Hodgson.
3.) 10 Jun 2021 17:55:34
Nope. Literally every source and people inside the club have said he was pretty much sacked. Even Jeff alluded to as much. People inside the club know he was told this in Feb and that is when they first looked at Lage. Why do you think this all happened so quickly? Nothing to do with money, they were just not happy with how Nuno handled this season and had lost confidence. They also saw the fans comments about the defensive and stagnant football. Literally the reason they've gone for a manager shown to be attacking.
Palace were shocked by the additional demands coming so late in the day and also had been insulted once or twice by Nuno's apparent lack of speed in communicating and seemed to be in no rush whereas Palace want it solved ASAP. This is what I've read from Palace reporters that have probably paid cleaners and others inside for info and what they have seen or overheard at the club. A lot better than assuming based on zero evidence.
4.) 10 Jun 2021 20:28:54
Nuno is Loyal to his backroom team and so he should be, this also could be a stumbling block at Everton.
Regardless of wether Nuno was sacked or not, it has no relevance to what he does now, I was gutted he left whatever the circumstance was, but now we should move on.
We should all focus on Bruno and his dream.
5.) 11 Jun 2021 06:11:06
I agree Sydney,
We in new era can't change the past but can plan for the future.
COYW.
6.) 11 Jun 2021 15:21:25
Of course but Nuno remains a legend in my memory and would be welcomed back any time.
20 Sep 2021 14:01:34
Funnily enough Sharesum I was thinking exactly that myself.
14 Aug 2021 10:44:16
Mixed feelings about Cutrone. You're right in what you say Jas, I remember him being interviewed at the airport, he was in shock. He simply did not want to leave Milan, let alone Italy.
But on the flip side he's a professional footballer and as such, you have to accept these things so if you're sold you have to adapt and get on with it. I don't think he wanted to accept this which would have been like a red rag to a bull for Nuno, hence the fall out. This lead to Cutrone accusing Nuno of having his favourites and it's been downhill ever since. We should forget him and move on.
11 Aug 2021 06:52:07
That sounds like an okay transfer Tommy. 😉.
03 Aug 2021 20:03:53
Haven't Wolves said categorically that Coady is not for sale. Plus I don't think Coady would want to go, given his often stated love for playing for Wolves.
02 Aug 2021 13:24:59
When I heard that Nuno had got the Tottenham job my first thought was "I'll give it 12 months", suspecting Kane would want to leave.
Without Kane's goals Spurs will find it hard and if/ when he goes who'll carry the can at the end of the year if they 'under achieve', it won't be Levy.
20 Oct 2021 13:42:24
Funnily enough Abbey I tend to have similar experiences. For the first couple of years since our promotion we seemed to be everyone's 2nd favourite team because we were beating the so called 'big six'.
More recently, I walked through Schiphol airport with my black training top on under my open jacket and one of the staff spotted the Wolves logo. It took me 10 minutes to get away. Love it.
20 Oct 2021 11:31:38
Just to add to the fun, Agbonlahor mentioned Neves's 'wayward free kick' on Football Insider that only went in due to a deflection. That was probably on target but would have been saved. No mention of McGinn's deflected goal that would definitely have been saved by Sa if not for it hitting Neves.
19 Oct 2021 19:08:24
As Phil pointed out earlier Jas Wolves are the joint (with Chelsea) top form team in the Prem based on the last 5 games. Who was it, let's hope he feels suitably embarrassed?
You do have to wonder who employs these clowns and why?
18 Oct 2021 18:18:32
Interesting stats Phil, I wonder if we're going on a long winning run that Lage has got form for.
It's results that matter and a decent winning run right now would do nicely.
Big away crowds with the usual vocal Wolves support seem to spur us on, so fingers crossed for this weekend.
16 Oct 2021 21:39:24
Nice touch Villadaz.