Wolves banter 4

22 Sep 2025 00:03:14
Maybe wrong but didn't Bruno Lage play 4-4-2. Best football I've seen in years tbh, but he bottled it after 3 losses and went to a back 5.

21 Sep 2025 18:32:18
i remember when we were signing harvey elliot, and/or mcafee. Anyway we still have got bellegarde so everything is ok

21 Sep 2025 19:20:10
No we weren't unless you read comics and Bellegarde is nowhere near the worst of our problems.

21 Sep 2025 21:19:40
He is.along with sa.agbadou.munetsi.and 90% of the new signings who are championship level at best.but when wer playing ther nxt ssn I bet theyr not even that level.and vp is going the same way as gon.nice big/long contract but sacked within 10games of signing it🫣

21 Sep 2025 21:56:25
Vp. Will be gone if we lose to spurs
Sacked or by mutual consent
He can't do anymore with this shower
Only kreckji, jsl, look anything like at moment, a couple will be ok next season

21 Sep 2025 17:09:19
Agbadou is not playing like he was last season, VP has now come out and said there was a lot of good things he did against Leeds, I personally think he was awful. Agbadou needs benching for a bit for himself and the team.

21 Sep 2025 19:09:21
You're not the only one Man O War 4. He was given 2/10 as his player rating by the E&S. I can't remember seeing one that low for sometime.

21 Sep 2025 21:23:31
Agbadou has been garbage every single game.and virtually gives goals away.literally passing to the opposition.who then score.hes garbage.along with sa who is surely the worst keeper in the prem and probably the world at the minute.sam HAS to start from now on

21 Sep 2025 16:46:25
How can wolves keep a manager that's got only one point from the last 27 available. Answer because they have an incompetent chairman and incompetent owners.

21 Sep 2025 19:22:57
Don’t forget he won six in a row. 🙄😉
And also you might well ask how those same incompetent owners can get rid of a manager who got us to 7th in the prem, a European quarter final and an F.A. Cup semi final…but then that would be because you have forgotten that he had no plan b. 🙄😉

21 Sep 2025 16:21:30
Last week, we cut VP some slack as he had spent the previous 2 weeks working with only 8 players in training and we put up a good but ultimately fruitless fight against Newcastle away.

So you would've expected a better performance considering he had a full week to work with a full squad including all 8 of the players that he himself wanted against a newly promoted team who were there for the taking, but no, we seemed to regress.

Is the issue the home crowd? There must be an underlying reason we're abysmal at Molineux (4-0, 3-2 and 3-1) and only not very good away from home (1-0 and 1-0)

21 Sep 2025 17:56:50
So it’s the fans fault now W!

21 Sep 2025 18:19:15
No. I'm not saying that at all. What I'm asking is why are the performances so different when we are playing away? Is there too much pressure for them to perform considering how bad the home form has been over the last season or is it something else? Surely having the home crowd behind you would give the team confidence.

I personally think VP has got his tactics wrong and is too stubborn to make changes.

21 Sep 2025 18:19:44
100% fault of VP and the players.

21 Sep 2025 19:22:23
We are expected to be more attacking at home and consequently leave ourselves more open whereas in away games we sit more.

21 Sep 2025 21:32:09
Exactly.we gon1up v leeds and then sit back.instead of going at them and finish them.off.we sit back.make mistakes.cant defend.cant score and end up getting beaten easily.we wer garbage.worst showing this ssn.AT HOME TO LEEDS.FGS.we look clueless.we had adama and never used him to our advantage.wev got the new guy whos even quicker and we don't use that either.clueless.we look so so so poor this ssn.and wots with the square passing and passing back all the time.we play like wer 3-1 up or 1-0 up not the other way around.no urgency atall.so i'm afraid thos ssn is the ssn we go

21 Sep 2025 15:48:01
Couldn't get to the game yesterday so had to watch on TV.
Switched over to the rugby at half time I was that discussed.
We look like a bunch of players who simply don't know what they're doing.
VP must decide on his starting line up and stick to it . I would even go so far as to say start with the Everton game. Chopping and changing is no good for the team.
My preferred line up would be,
4. 3 3
JSL and Tulo up top with Arias just behind them.
Andrea Gomes and krejci in mid field.
Doc Masquera Agabadou Bueno
Sa.

21 Sep 2025 16:11:45
Be interesting to see if VP will change his methods, formation and personnel. The only way we can improve is to learn and make changes, Agbadou needs to have the game off in my opinion, would not start Bellegarde or Hwang either, Johnstone starts for me as well.

21 Sep 2025 16:13:49
1st time poster on here but long time reader so please be gentle. Everyone is blaming Jeff and fosun but surely we should be blaming the people who have identified these players and said there good enough for the premier league when obviously there not, so in my opinion you have got to be looking at vp and his recruiting team. He asked for a right back and got one (jury still out on him), asked for a left back and got one (nowhere near as good as what we sold or have), asked for a centre half and got one then chooses to play him in midfield when clearly our centre halves aren’t good enough. In my opinion all the new signings are championship quality at best, and when you buy championship quality that’s where you will end up.

21 Sep 2025 17:02:23
Welcome on board Sedgley, personally I think it's a combination of all of those things, but the book stops with Jeff as the CEO and Fosun's man on the ground.

VP got the positions filled in the main but were they all first choice or did the budget preclude preferred signings? Not sure on that one but thanks to the owners the club has been on a downward spiral for the last 3-4 years, this being the predicted (by some) consequence.

All I know for sure is we are here now and VP will be left holding the baby, it's happened before and will again.

21 Sep 2025 13:40:22
Wolves Talk posted this and I totally agree with the - Wolves' downfall has one name: Jeff Shi. Wasted pre-seasons, panic buys, managers doomed, best players sold, zero ambition. He told us not to dream-he's made sure of it. Every failure points to him

21 Sep 2025 15:09:49
There's only one man to blame for the poor performances on the pitch and that is VP poor team selection no tactics refusal to make the right changes in personnel and changes in formation as I've pointed out before was told he was stubborn and not good enough let's see if he will change Tuesday night

21 Sep 2025 16:01:28
Hate to say it but VP was responsible for that shambles, ok Shi has allowed us to drop into this position but VP is managing on field. The sight of him sitting in the dug out scribbling things down at half time amazed me, then to leave agbadu on and taking off our speed in lopez and rigardo made no sense to me. Munetsi for bellagarde fair enough, surely krecji should have dropped back, agbadu off and Andre filled MF with gomez. But he's the gaffer and I'm in me armchair so I know nothing, but his changes didn't set us alight.
Changes will be made to personnel on Tues I'm sure, our style of play?

21 Sep 2025 11:09:56
Imo VP has to go to a back 4 Krejci and Mosquera then put 3 in mf that gives you 3 up top. Try on Tuesday against Everton in the cup Arias Lopes plus Tolu or Larsen. That gives Wolves more of a threat going forward and with Krejci at the back might not make so many mistakes just a thought.

21 Sep 2025 11:27:17
Unfortunately Shada can’t see VP dropping Toti, maybe not even Agbadou listening to his interview, he seems to think he had a good game except for 1 mistake.I agree Krejci has to be in defence, would also play Santi and Doc as our back 3, as VP will stick with his preferred formation. What a mess.

21 Sep 2025 11:31:52
I reckon that we should play the following team-

Johnstone - play more balls forward - long kicks
Tchatchoua - get the ball to him and put crosses in the box
Bueno - Ditto
Docherty - Captain
Krejci - calm things down at the back
Toti - listen to Krejci
Andre - win the ball and give it to Lopez
Gomes - ditto
Lopez - drive forward. Run at them
Strand Larsen - get on the end of all those crosses
Tolu - ditto

Quick question - these are all strong athletes. Lifting weights etc and building their arm and leg muscles. Why doesn't every team have one or better still two, long throw specialists? An extra missile into the box.


Even if you are on the right track, you will get run over if you just sit there!

21 Sep 2025 15:55:08
We've got to go 442. I've put the alternative in bracket

Either Sa or Johnstone in goal as their isn't that much between them.

RB: Tchatchoua
LB: Bueno (Moller Wolfe)
CB: Mosquera (S Bueno)
CB: Krejci (c) (Agbadou)

Ring Wing: Lopez (Arias)
Left Wing: Rodrigo
CM: Gomes (Munetsi)
CM: Andre (Munetsi)

ST: Tolu (Mane)
ST: JSL (Mane)

21 Sep 2025 10:06:33
Only two teams have survived in the Premier League after losing their first five games.

No team has survived in the Premier League after losing their first six games.

Thomas Frank backwards becomes
Frank Thomas.

First The Points

21 Sep 2025 10:55:07
2 teams out of 5 which isn’t bad odds, in the last 5 seasons the highest position we have been after 5 games is 16th, the highest points we had at this stage are 3, we have survived every time. And actually it’s knarf samoht.

21 Sep 2025 11:09:55
Or would it be samoht knarf goatmark? Either way it's lost on me?

21 Sep 2025 11:14:36
Firstthepoints I read somewhere that the last team who survived after losing their first 5 sacked the manager. I don’t think we will do this, however, if we continue in the same way, what does Jeff do then?

If VP continues with the same team selection and thought process, surely we will continue in the same way. Our defence will always provide at least one good chance for the opposition, Sa will confuse the defenders and let in goals that he should save. Then we have attacking players who are giants but have no positive impact.

Just can’t see a good way forward at the moment, unless Everton play a much weakened side, we will lose their first next 3, Everton, Spurs and Brighton I think. Really frustrating and embarrassing now to be a Wolves supporter, don’t want relegation but it is what Fosun deserve after the previous few seasons.

21 Sep 2025 11:30:02
Banksy I think Sa is a good keeper but I just don’t think he can see that far as he has been beaten a few times from distance.
Remember the free kick from Ward-Prowse for instance and the corner?

21 Sep 2025 11:53:31
Excellent FirstThePoints, Sa can’t see anything outside the box, maybe Agbadou struggles to see short distance as he keeps passing to the opposition directly in front of him 👍

21 Sep 2025 14:59:11
Sign them.up for a specsavers commercial!

21 Sep 2025 07:47:57
Utter garbage I'm sick of playing a back 3 let's change the formation to a 4-2-3-1 against everton Tuesday and let's get at them
Johnston
Doherty
Mosquera
Kleci
Bueno

Andre
Gomes

Fer Lopez
Arias
Rodrigo

Laursen

21 Sep 2025 10:34:19
Why not James? What we all need now is some entertainment I think some genuine desire and reason to believe again. Go gung ho in the cup and give us some hope, even if we were to lise 4-3 we'd see some excitement.
Sadly I don't think VP will agree and he'll stick with his plan, he'd said somewhere he didn't want to drop agbadu as it would affect his confidence, he's not getting it back under performing in embarrassing defeats is he?
Expect Johnstone to play anyway ditto santi and doc arias and hwang.
Can't be any worse than yesterday.
Can it?