Wolves banter 6

17 Jan 2026 23:59:53
Like I said no point in selling larssen if it happens in the final week, if he was being sold he should have gone last week.

18 Jan 2026 08:55:43
Agree with you demon, unfortunately they will more than likely sell him at end of window with no replacement. That has been our history recently, we will see if new Shi is any different.

18 Jan 2026 09:01:06
Final week demon? That’s optimistic considering how badly fosun have ran the club the last 4 years I would put money on him going in the final hours

17 Jan 2026 23:58:37
Would anyone agree we should put out an unchanged team on Sunday in the hope they are learning how to interact with one another under the new coaches. I do see areas where we still need work i.e. how quickly our defence can be turned but we are getting better! If players wish to leave the club so be it just so long as their value is met and the club works to fill the gaps I appreciate it looks as though nothing is happening but that has been the way the club has been run for some time keep the faith

18 Jan 2026 13:20:14
Agree

18 Jan 2026 00:11:24
Forget all the B/S that's occurring at the moment and hope whatever team we put out today can invoke the spirit of new years day 1990 and stuff Newcastle come on me babbies

17 Jan 2026 21:41:08
I have read various people, including I think Jeff, saying at least Wolves are better off than when Fosun took over.
Lets look at the facts
In the summer of 2016 when Fosun bought the club Wolves had just lost a negligible amount, circa £2m, pre player sales in the year 2015/16.
On the same basis in 2023/4, the last set of accounts available, it was £75m.
The loss in 2016 was about 7% of the turnover now it is roughly 42%
In 2016 Wolves had zero net debt - including debt to banks, other clubs and its owners.

In fact it was owed money!
Now it has a net debt of over £300m!
In 2016 the club was going nowhere fast and was a boring stable Championship side.
In 2026/7 it is quite possible that this will be beyond the reach of the club!
Is that really better?

18 Jan 2026 09:04:37
Exactly future, it gets on my nerves all this “ fosun have given us the best times” malarkey, they are also giving us right now the worst times. I was only 6 when the bhattis were around so don’t really remember that much but I’m certainly experiencing this now under fosun, just because they were great at first shouldn’t mean the have a pass with what’s going on now.

18 Jan 2026 10:33:37
Fosun have given us some of the best times. Who can forget us romping to promotion or the two 7th place finishes, the European adventure or the FA Cup run?

None of this looked possible under Steve Morgan when we were relegated to League 1.

The times are clearly not so good now and Fosun have clearly lost interest but if anyone says that Fosun have not given the fans the best time in recent history is simply lying to themselves. Or maybe they sincerely believe mid table Championship and League 1 is better than Premier League.

18 Jan 2026 11:43:31
GWIL I think The Futures point is that while we did have the best time in our recent history under Fosun the cost could be that we may not have a club to support at all if the mis-management continues into the next couple of seasons.
Future is asking if a couple of seasons as best of the rest is worth losing the club for.

18 Jan 2026 12:19:25
Good - undeniable that Fosun was excellent for 4 years up to Seville - as I said in a post on "rumours" only yesterday.
But it is not true to say that currently or in all likelihood at any time soon they will have put the club in a better place than it was when they took over from Morgan.
He never got the club to the heights Fosun did but never took them financially or quite probably in table terms as anywhere near as low as Wolves are now and are on track to achieve.


As First says it is quite possible that the club could go into admin and thus unlike under Morgan could well end up in Div 1 or worse.
£300m+ of debt is totally unsustainable outside pf the Prem and player sales will make very little debt in that whilst obviously if you can't operate in a cash positive fashion in the Prem what chance have you when turnover falls by £100m+ in the Championship?

18 Jan 2026 12:24:15
Your missing the point good, I say that fosun have given us good times no one is denying that, but just because of that they should be given leeway for the mismanagement now? No they shouldn’t, yes we were going nowhere under Morgan and moxey I agree but we also weren’t in absolutely horrendous debt which we now are, fosun have zero interest in the club hence why they have not invested in infrastructure, we will go down and still have obligations debt wise so you tell me where that money is coming from? Because it won’t be fosun that’s a sure fire fact.

I genuinely fear for the future of the club, Chinese ownership nearly bankrupted reading, Birmingham, Albion even the mighty ac Milan were in the doo doo, what makes us so different? But hey Ho don’t worry we got into Europe under them so maybe all the companies/clubs we owe money to will take that into account and write off what we owe them!

18 Jan 2026 13:19:04
I don't think the finances are as bad as people think. Yes, financially we are not in a good place but we do not have as much debt as some of the other Premier League clubs.

Jeff Shi has 100% mismanaged the club and his incompetence will cost us dear. Hopefully Guo and co have taken note and Nathan Shi can in the short term steady the ship before a proper football person comes in and drives us forward.

18 Jan 2026 13:22:54
Forest, Bournemouth, Brighton and Palace as well as the Big 6 all have higher debts than Wolves. The difference is that they all have people who in place to ensure the football side of things is still ticking over whereas we had Jeff Shi who let everything collapse.

18 Jan 2026 13:58:01
Good - first Wolves won't be a Prem league team next year and in the Champ average debt is under £70m and Wolves have over £300m.
However second I do accept that some sides will have bigger debts.
I would have assumed that was because they were much bigger teams so I was surprised at your list.
However having checked the obvious one - Brighton deemed by everyone to be a v well run club I'im not sure about your figures.


Wolves have over £300m of debt Brighton just over £200m.
Equally relevant over the last 2 years Brighton lost under £50m across the period Wolves lost £182m!
Adding Wolves much vaunted player trading profits Wolves made roughly £108m over the last 2 years. Brighton made £232m.
So relative to Brighton at least yes Wolves are in a real hole financially

18 Jan 2026 15:30:46
I just took the figures that were published by the BBC. I don't know the ins and outs of football finance.

18 Jan 2026 16:51:30
Good the problem is your saying we don’t have as much debt as other premier league clubs and that’s correct but we won’t be a premier league club next season so we will have one of if not the highest debt outside the premier league

18 Jan 2026 17:14:38
De Wolf was God. As I said. I just took the figures from the BBC. I'm no finance expert so I can't say how much debt the club will have. I do expect there to be some savings as usually when a club gets relegated, the operating costs reduce and staff are let go. Add to that, the more saleable players are sold.

18 Jan 2026 19:49:56
Well if you remember our esteemed ex chairman said that no staff member would lose their jobs due to relegation, another lie of his, so you have to ask where’s the instructions coming from? I find it difficult to believe that Jeff was given carte Blanche to just do and say what he wanted, and I personally wouldn’t believe a thing that I read on any bbc article. It’s a fact an absolute undeniable fact that we are in debt to the tune of 300 million pounds, no amount of staff redundancies ( which apparently won’t happen 🤦‍♂️) or player sales are going to come close to reducing that, if you figure Gomes, Andre, circa 70 million.

Jsl maybe 40 now where do you see the other 190 million being raised? And the efl are a lot quicker to punish clubs who fall into admin or can’t pay their debts.

18 Jan 2026 20:58:40
I honestly don't know why you're having a go at me for. I didn't print the figures. I don't know if they're true or not. I know the figures that were submitted to Companies House last year but other than that, I don't know the inner workings at the club.

I have no idea where any of the money has gone or will come from. I'm just using the figures that are publicly printed. There are posters on here who have a better understanding of finances than me who could assist.

17 Jan 2026 13:09:12
Sa ; Doc Santi Mosq ; Lima Jaoa Andre Hugo ; Rodrigo Strand Tolu.! got to go for it! FWAW.

17 Jan 2026 09:49:24
What do you all think the team will be tomorrow, same as last league game or changes?

JSL up front or Tolu, Jackson or R. Gomes probably only possible 2 changes, however, I like to stick with a good performing team when and where possible.

17 Jan 2026 10:28:54
It's got to be Tolu and jackson starting for me Banksy, Sa in goal, santi kreicji Hugo, Andre gomes, Arias and Mane, then the big one, do we play Hwang?, I think he'll begin and see how he does.
Really think we've got a chance tomorrow mate.

17 Jan 2026 12:00:38
I agree Abbey they have Schar, Liverimento, Murphy and Burn out plus they played Tuesday and have psv in the champions league on Wednesday so seems like a good time to play them. I think it will be 2:1 wolves Tolu and mane to score COYW

17 Jan 2026 12:56:26
Sa, Santi, Agbadou, Krejci, Jackson, Rodrigo, Andre, Gomes, Arias, Mane, Tolu

Johnstone, JSL, Doc, Wolfe, Mosquera, Hugo, Lima, Hwang, Lopez

17 Jan 2026 15:57:30
Dunno about agbadu goodwhile, he's spose to be off to besikstas.
I forgot mosquiro before, slot him in and drop hwang from my suggestion.
Didn't realise they had so many out major Frank but that gives me more optimism.
Looking forward to the game, I didn't think I'd be saying that a few weeks ago.
COYW

17 Jan 2026 22:29:27
After today's results Abbey I think the fat lady is about to sing

18 Jan 2026 07:16:24
Harvey Barnes is the dangerman.always scores against us.

17 Jan 2026 08:59:29
One of my favourite seasons of watching Wolves was the promotion season under Nuno in the Championship. So I actually wouldn't mind another season like that. Plenty of 3pm Saturday games for one thing.

17 Jan 2026 10:17:30
The problem being RonsSon, it may be more than one season.

17 Jan 2026 10:24:33
Better get use to 12:30 KOs then RonsSon . If Sky are still showing the championship you can bet we'll be featuring a lot at that time.
I know what you mean tho, no VAR, potentially challenging instead of hoping and wishing for points etc.
Will Fosun still be with us tho? Will we have then funds and the allure to get the players we'll need?

16 Jan 2026 19:50:46
Big gamble from the baggies on Eric Ramsay I had never heard of him although he has got a street named after him so he must be good 😊

17 Jan 2026 03:21:49
We don't really care about them lot on here mate.

17 Jan 2026 09:01:55
No worries rated it was my best effort at a neighbours Ramsay St joke 😊

17 Jan 2026 09:03:39
Is that the team that are down under.

17 Jan 2026 11:11:41
🤣 I think I will leave the jokes to you next time Baza

17 Jan 2026 11:17:52
Me and mrs watched neighbours for 15 years shame it went down under hopefully there's a new era just like with wolves rest and restart

17 Jan 2026 11:23:38
Nice one, baza. By the way Major, I got your joke.

17 Jan 2026 14:51:31
They're certainly going boing boing though down to league 1 the way things are going lol.

16 Jan 2026 18:34:59
Grimsby v Wolves has been selected for tv, Sunday 15th February, 1:30pm TNT Sport 1.

17 Jan 2026 08:43:22
Thanks rated.

16 Jan 2026 17:20:31
More than halfway through January now. Nothing apart from krecji in term of signings. Have fosun accepted our relegation? Or are they planning to sell the club?

16 Jan 2026 18:43:18
I'm sure that even they can see relegation is nailed on but I hope they're planning to sell.

16 Jan 2026 19:28:22
If as many have said. Most of our current players are only championship standard.
Then shouldn't we try and keep as many of them as we can, if were going down.
Surely they could improve in that league

17 Jan 2026 07:21:32
Championship players on premiership wages greyleg, can we would Fosun fund them?
Plus I'm not convinced that they're committed to the shirt. We need players who'll give everything for Wolverhampton wanderers not just their bank balance.

17 Jan 2026 09:06:17
I believe all players at the club have a pay cut in there contracts and it could be up to 50%.

17 Jan 2026 12:26:59
That'll see a few of em off then baza!