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16 Oct 2020 12:38:28
Dion off to Sunderland.

16 Oct 2020 22:49:29
I always liked the look of Sanderson. Hope he does well.

17 Oct 2020 11:33:04
Yes me too.
I will be keeping an eye on Sunderland also Burton (Ennis) and Coventry (Giles)
Nice when we aren't playing to keep an eye on our loan players.
I forgot Swansea and MGW.
All of them do us proud.

17 Oct 2020 17:20:28
MGW fractured foot today 3 months out.

17 Oct 2020 19:41:18
That's terrible news😟
I wondered why he wasn't playing today.

17 Oct 2020 19:52:19
MGW is having no luck with injuries is he? It was his back last season.

18 Oct 2020 12:31:25
No faith for the game at Leeds. This will be the first of many thrashing or should I say second.

19 Oct 2020 14:45:19
Leeds are a good side we can all agree on that one. But defensively not anywhere close to top 6 quality. If we defend like we can this game is ours.

The holes will open up more the game goes on. Some big 'ifs' but I wouldn't be doom and gloom.

19 Oct 2020 18:27:49
Jimenez will score a hatrick at some point this season Hope it's tonight,45/ 1.

20 Oct 2020 10:13:11
Keep on predicting a thrashing for us Demon if it turns out we win.
Last night was our night, in the premier league anything is possible at the present.
I always keep faith however poor we have been playing but each to their own.

20 Oct 2020 11:50:09
Although Leeds battered us in the first half, we are the first team to really suss them out and blow the hype away. It took us 45 minutes. Our keeper actually had a fairly quiet night, which is proof. Leeds will survive well in the PL and build something lasting, but it will take a couple of seasons to get to our level and by then hopefully we will have moved up a level.

Well done Demon with the prediction; keep 'em coming mate. You obviously inspired the lads last night.

20 Oct 2020 12:56:53
Haha, Demon is that before or after we 'sign someone by the end of the day' not sure I've seen a single one of your predictions come off! I'll make one that I'm pretty confident in, Demons next prediction will be absolute tripe! Mind you I'm not sure I'd find a bookie silly enough to even give me odds on that one! 🤣.

21 Oct 2020 08:40:19
I notice Giles is playing regular for Coventry.
Ennis came on as sub for Burton last night not sure if that was his debut but I think it was.

Sanderson wasn't in the match squad for Sunderland last night.
Our club is growing with a good depth of talent coming through.
FOSUN are doing what they told us fans at the beginning of their takeover.
All is very good being a wolves fan.
Ps anyone keeping track of our over seas loan players would be nice if posted their progress. 😊.

21 Oct 2020 12:52:14
Phil789, nice to see that we're starting to do, in quantity, what the big boys do: develop youngsters, play them or loan them out, and then wait for results! Lots of young Wolf cubs will soon be all over the world. It's a bit like gardening, innit? You reap what you sow.

21 Oct 2020 13:41:25
Your bang on Deepthroat I agree.
Our club now is sowing the seeds and before sowing we're obtaining the best seeds from all over the world.

22 Oct 2020 10:13:20
Right Phil, and it costs peanuts relatively, compared to spending big money in the transfer market. It's also very helpful for FFP.

22 Oct 2020 17:07:40
Its also vital for fielding a full strength team (25 players) in any Euro Comp (4 homegrown to the club, 8 homegrown to the nation) . You look at Kilman last game and it shows that its working, these things just take time 👍.

25 Oct 2020 21:14:56
Keep laughing bully's boy we got lucky against Fulham and Leeds and I just watched that pathetic excuse against Newcastle. Nuno should go now if that's the football he wants. No pressing up front, no urgency and sum of the players look confused. Next Friday Zaha and Palace. Another loss.

26 Oct 2020 12:53:08
Demon- I'll keep laughing as long as you keep posting, your a joke fella. Everyone knows your a troll so why not just go back under ya bridge where you belong?! Let's have a show of hands who wants Nuno to go and who wants you to stop posting nasty nonsense?! I reckon it would be a landside sunshine 🙄.

27 Oct 2020 17:21:20
Demon out. Nuno to go on, and on, and on.

12 Oct 2020 18:17:15
God help us if this big 6 plan goes through. It is absolutely disgusting. What do the fans get out of it? Nothing. Fewer games, no League cup to give development games to young players. The power has been held by the so called big 6 and this makes it a stranglehold. Does anybody think Fosun will stick around when the chance of getting into the big 6 disappears and they have no say in anything. Total stitch up.

13 Oct 2020 15:58:01
I'm disgusted by EFL chairman Rick Parry. Yesterday he said that the PL had months to come up with a plan and didn't. Hang on, for one thing the PL DID have plans. But why I'm disgusted with comrade Parry is that the Yankee's Liverpool-Man U plan was first drafted in SECRET in January, and, 16 revisions later, was only published the other day. That plan took 9 months, so why the cloak and dagger stuff, when the PL was being transparent? Excuse my French, but it amounts to a fait accompli at best and a coup d'etat at worst. Vote against.

{Ed001's Note - Prick Parry is a clueless gimp. Anything he thinks is a good idea is almost certainly not: Rick Parry The Embodiment of the Peter Principle. You should always vote against anything he backs!}

13 Oct 2020 16:36:46
Thanks for the article Ed001. What a debacle Parry was as Liverpool CEO. He's the Alan Partridge of CEO's with an eye for how much he can milk out of it. He actually makes Moxey's time at Wolves look great.

{Ed001's Note - he is possibly the worst of all time. He is no better for the EFL so far.}

13 Oct 2020 17:26:30
That's an insult to Alan Partridge-Ah-Ha!

13 Oct 2020 17:28:30
You seriously have to worry though, how western democracy allows clueless gimps such as Parry, Trump, Blatter and Johnson get to shape and potentially screw up our World.

17 Oct 2020 15:42:00
SQ Trump has the worst gimp mask, or is it!

11 Oct 2020 21:14:46
So now the top six clubs have actually come up with mandate to allow them to actually run the entire league?! I very rarely agree with the FA but if this goes through it will be a very bad thing for fairness within our game! Part of the proposals actually show that you wouldn't need a voting majority across the league any more, just between the six biggest clubs. That's fair then 🤮.

11 Oct 2020 21:46:10
The Premier League seem to be against this too. I wonder then, if the big 6 insisted on driving this proposal forward, would the other 14 PL teams consider quitting the PL and organising a new league structure without the greedy 6 leaving them to arrange their European Super League.

11 Oct 2020 22:01:27
I read it was 9 clubs but that still isn't fair everyone in the league should have equal voting rights.

11 Oct 2020 22:09:46
Just realised I said the FA, not sure where they stand to be honest. Your right Jas it's the Prem that have come out agaisnt it. And nope Window (from what I gather) 9 clubs would get voting rights but effectively a motion could still pass (like extra subs) with just the backing of the top six clubs! It's disgraceful, Fenway Sports Group basically want to return Prem footy to a fuedal system, where only those with money get any power! 😡.

11 Oct 2020 22:32:50
I really hope the big 6 are successful and are able to take all the power. I also hope that the moment they do, the other 14 PL and 72 EFL clubs come together and form a new league. No one will want to join the big 6 clubs as they will not qualify for European competition as they're not affiliated to a national league. Their only hope will be a European League which will take a few years as other leagues need to negotiate their top teams to leave/ participate. Then there the question of how the poor fans are paying to watch the teams. Travelling from say Liverpool to Southampton is a lot cheaper than travelling to Madrid. As I say, I hope it happens.

12 Oct 2020 00:28:06
Who made them the big 6?

12 Oct 2020 07:15:23
They made themselves it.

12 Oct 2020 09:06:54
It would be interesting to see what the big 6 ordinary real fans think about these proposals.
Have you ed's seen anything on this matter on the big 6 fans sites?

{Ed002's Note - It has not come from the "top six". This all comes from the growth potential of Liverpool now flattening out – the owners would like to find a way to squeeze more out – and that is the reason that they have the support of Manchester United.}

12 Oct 2020 10:48:54
To me the new PL proposals are outrageous. It seems to come from the Liverpool American owners and is falsely presented in part as a rescue package. Long term they are trying to consolidate the big clubs into a cartel. the main reason to reduce the PL to 18 clubs is to have fewer Pl matches, and to delay the start of the season in order to have friendlies. It doesn't take much to work out that the friendlies will be between the usual suspects, the so-called top six! Turkeys don't vote for Christmas. Reject this insidious plan.

12 Oct 2020 11:00:21
Travelling to games? Actually going to any game would be a start! The FA run the England team so they could put their oar in and state that no player in a breakaway team could play for England.

12 Oct 2020 10:04:50
Thanks for the info Ed002.👍.

12 Oct 2020 13:23:05
Project self importance or Project I'm alright Jack!

Would any potential break away, as mentioned by some then invite Celtic and Rangers? Just a thought.

12 Oct 2020 13:42:40
If you look at US sport they are pretty much all a closed shop the NFL being a prime example. Not really surprising that this has come from US owners. If they could stop relegation I suspect that they would.

12 Oct 2020 13:10:19
ED002, if the new PL proposals get approved, parachute payments will be stopped. This will weaken the relegated teams. It may also create a permanent under-class of teams at the bottom of the PL, going up and down between the two divisions.

{Ed002's Note - They will indeed be stopped. It is there to try and boost the income of Liverpool and to some extent Manchester United because the growth potential has flattened out - nothing else. The Liverpool owners are investors and would need to get out and invest elsewhere where there is more growth potential if the value of Liverpool is stagnating or growing slowly.}

12 Oct 2020 14:44:06
The fa Cup has slowly losing its appeal.
Like when I was growing up the fa Cup final the programme started roughly 10 in the morning and built up to 3 o'clock kickoff. You don't see that anymore I would hate the premier league to go a similar way.
Football is our community what our dad's bought us up on and fans no matter how good or successful their clubs are should always remain like a heritage listed building.
My 2 pennith.

12 Oct 2020 15:26:23
Phil the Premier League and the 2 million or so extra per each successive finish place has certainly devalued both cup competitions but the Champions League and scrapping of the Cup Winners Cup has also been a factor.

12 Oct 2020 16:03:38
I think versions of this type of proposal have been lurking for a while. Foreign investors in UK football clubs often have little concern for football's history in this country, and how important it is that every club's supporters have hope that one day they will be the best in the land. Running a closed shop of franchises has no place in the UK. Let the top 6 clear off and play their European mates, and let's keep a league that is open to merit and skill, and within fan's affordability when playing away.

12 Oct 2020 16:51:48
Agree Arddunby my thinking was if the big 6 leave or and no promotion what's the point of all the other clubs.
I feel fortunate my dad was born in Wolverhampton not say like Accrington or Burton as if he was I would of been a Burton or an Accrington Stanley fan.

12 Oct 2020 17:50:57
Pure hatred between the two of them on the pitch. Pure hatred for everyone else except their own cash coffers and self indulgence. Typical arrogance from the Osborne Northern 'powerhouse'

12 Oct 2020 18:18:57
Pure hatred between the two of them on the pitch. Pure hatred for everyone else except their own cash coffers and self indulgence. Typical arrogance from the Osborne Northern 'powerhouse'

12 Oct 2020 22:02:29
I can't help but feel this has just been created with an actual eye on the 'European Super League' that has been banded about for a decade or so. Kind of a toe our line else we are off to create our own league. If that is the case then I agree with Jas, let um go. I accept it would massively devalue our league but to be honest I'd sooner support Wolves back in the Champ than bow down to a fuedal Prem league system, where we get no say and are at the whims of the self selected 'big clubs'!, 😡.

13 Oct 2020 22:48:46
And yes Gregg Clarke has now come out and confirmed that he left proceedings in Spring when a potiential ultimatum was mentioned! Let's call this what it is folks, cause Fenway want these six clubs to be the major share holders for the ENTIRE league! It's a coup on the Prem, plain and simple! Orchestrated by Fenway whilst the other clubs watch on in the hope for higher potiential yields! Parry makes me sick, of COURSE lower league clubs will support it! Cause they are fighting for survival and frankly it won't affect the vast majority in the current owners life time! For the first time it may actually be useful that the FA can quash such things. Although I suspect it won't be that simple, think things are going to get nasty! 😭.

14 Oct 2020 21:41:36
I think you are right BullysBoyII this is a step closer to a European super League if not now then in maybe 3 years time when the big clubs in Spain Italy France Germany might want to break away although I don't know if that will happen in every country

Scrapping the League Cup is a good idea.

05 Oct 2020 18:33:49
Liverpool have made us an offer of £35million for John Ruddy.

05 Oct 2020 20:06:24
Give it a rest Wombourn.

05 Oct 2020 21:58:34
You missed the decimal point out
3.5 mill.

06 Oct 2020 10:39:17
TBH when Adrian is your no.2 keeper you'd spend that much just to get rid of him as opposed to buying Ruddy.

06 Oct 2020 17:46:52
Jack Wilshire if he's fit.

06 Oct 2020 18:01:06
I think Jack Wilshire is a free agent now. We could use him on a pay-per-play deal. I'd love to see Nuno get him back to form.

06 Oct 2020 19:38:27
Two or three years ago a really good idea - today it would be a massive gamble but on a pay for play basis and assuming he was willing to fit in and not be a "big I am" disturbing the dressing room mood, surely worth looking at.
If fit a v v creative CM - who could share duties with Moutinho?

06 Oct 2020 19:48:32
He's not a magician Deep.

06 Oct 2020 22:21:14
Wouldn't mind Welbeck on a Free just to add a bit of depth to the bench. Good experience to help along silva with his development too. Had a few injuries but so did Ings, got to be worth a gamble.

07 Oct 2020 18:53:11
Only depth Welbeck provides is for the Physios work load!

07 Oct 2020 19:28:44
Wouldn't touch either of them with their own crutches! WHU thought they could get Wilshire back to his best and a couple of years and no doubt a LOT of wages later he's still the same player that never reached his full potiential! Not to mention a chopsy one at that, Nuno would have no time for his regular tweets slagging off the people that pay his wages! As for Welbeck in fairness he's always been very professional but his goal record is shocking for an attacker! In an ENTIRE career he's scored less than Raul has for just us already! 🐺.

05 Oct 2020 07:00:31
We expect any deadline day deals. Or are we done?

05 Oct 2020 07:10:58
All done i'm afraid.

05 Oct 2020 08:26:59
Need to think about looking at players in Championship. Watkins and Bowen are good examples of what can be unearthed. Teams who just miss out on promotion have players who very nearly were in the Premier League. Brentford are prime example and Benrahma.

05 Oct 2020 09:32:54
I think we could do with a big robust hard tackling midfielder or two, plus a centre half, at some point,

05 Oct 2020 09:36:30
I disagree Ecosse. The players wolves have brought in are important for the future in terms of Silva, Hoever, Vitinha and Rayan.

All the clubs that went far in ruope last season have struggled so far. We have lost to Man city and are disappointed which shows how far we have come. And West Ham away which should be a difficult game. Some clubs will benefit from not having fans in the ground such as Villa and West ham. Best to judge in 10 games time.

05 Oct 2020 12:44:55
Most likely I think no new signings but you never know.

05 Oct 2020 13:32:10
Missed out on alleged target Oussama Idrissi, who has been confirmed as Sevilla signing. Shame as he looked the business. May well have a back up plan, as we had apparently put in a €16 million bid.
Can’t believe we’re not on lookout for a midfield enforcer, preferably a mobile one. ANM is the one I would like to see BUT maybe need to let that one go.

05 Oct 2020 15:56:42
Clearly our Leader felt we needed to upgrade on the 3 regulars released. Think the replacements look the business, but I still worry about where the goals are going to come from?
OK, Silva maybe a great signing, but not sure he will contribute many goals this season.
Neaves is struggling for goals, Podence, Neto, maybe a few, but not
prolific by past records. Dendoncker, on or two etc etc.
A bit of a worry.
What happened to Cutrone? . supposed being sold for circa £15m, not sure that happened, is he with the Squad?

05 Oct 2020 16:07:37
Cutrone was on a two year loan

Which I believe Fiorentina have passed on to another italian team. Might be Genoa! Highly doubt we are making money back on him next year.

Looking like a complete flop.

05 Oct 2020 17:55:57
Many thanks TT. thought we might have at least got our money back!

05 Oct 2020 18:19:07
You can see our problems like I said before lack of goals, and what's worrying is who in our team is going to get the goals, on the performances of late I don't now about scoring, but how many shots at goal do we have or create in the final third, sorry to be negative but cannot see we finishing top 6 playing like we have been, think we are in for a hard season, how many wingers have we got, midfield and a striker we definately need.

05 Oct 2020 18:49:54
Rumours flying around Cheshire tonight, and we won't like them,
First scenario, if solksjar gets sacked, Nuno will take over,
Second scenario, solksjar gets sacked
Klopp takes over at utd, Nuno takes over at Liverpool, either comes true, Patricio, coady, Neves, traore, Jimenez expected to go at some point with him ☹️☹️☹️☹️.

05 Oct 2020 18:35:04
No we have not finished with transfers, there will be at least one more coming in.

05 Oct 2020 19:07:31
I take it as true the rumour you say but it int arf made me laugh the klopp one the best. 😂😂😂
How do they get away with such 2plus2 =5?

05 Oct 2020 21:24:02
Wolves fans like to now honestly with the millions we spent have we signed the right players, because I have not got a clue how good these players are, can someone tell me.

05 Oct 2020 23:55:07
Big-only time will answer that one I'm afraid. In the mean time it comes down to weather or not we trust the scouting network used to find them. As its the same scouting network that's got our squad to where we are today then (for me) they've earnt my trust. Simples 👍🐺.

06 Oct 2020 07:44:54
Where the at least another signing coming in? Demon.

BullysBoyll I am singing off the same hymn sheet as you.
I hope Coady starts Thursday if not I'd rather put my walking head torch on and weed my garden than watch the England match.
COC (come on Coady)

06 Oct 2020 12:37:33
BB11, what's the weather got to do with anything!

06 Oct 2020 12:45:18
Just a shame ; re Cutrone, there was a connect between player and fans from the off. Just think he was a kid a long way from home, good player!

06 Oct 2020 14:10:51
Preston- didn't realise this was an English exam but I shall remember to check for grammatical errors next time you post about how useless Boly is! Can you spell 'short memory' for me please?! Sorry I couldn't resist! 🤣.

06 Oct 2020 16:16:31
BB11 : sorry, couldn't resist! As for Boly, was great in div
2, without breaking sweat! That is obviously his level. Kilman to start, with the Coady and Saiss. FWAW.

06 Oct 2020 17:39:29
He was pretty solid right up until he got shifted from his stronger side to his weaker side. Think it says a lot that out of the two of them Nuno still thinks Bolys more capable of adapting. I actually agree with you on Kilman, think he looks like a great prospect. Personally I'd drop Saiss for him, like Saiss enough but he always looks like he's about to give a pen away or get sent off! The problem we have is that Saiss, Boly, Kilman and now Marcal all prefer playing on the left side of the back three. Someone's always going to have to play were they aren't comfortable, not sure it's Bolys fault that Nuno thinks he's the best choice to adapt to it.

06 Oct 2020 19:42:57
BB II Maybe we should have sold one of them - Saiss given age and his current strong form (surely only way to go now and that is down! ) and bought a RCB?
Hoover actually looks promising - the best so far of the new boys although none have had much of a chance yet - and he in time could be the answer at RCB but today?

07 Oct 2020 00:13:17
Thefurtue-maybe but then, I thought we'd struggle when Nuno switched Coady to the back line and look how wrong I was there. I think Boly is actually right footed but he prefers to play more on the inside. I suspect Nuno thinks with time he'll make that side his own, but even I have to admit that his games taken a hit since being moved. Still Nuno knows best so I guess we'll just have to wait and see how Bolys game develops there. I agree with you though on Hoever, looks very solid from the cameos and he's played there before. Think him and Semedo have both moved for game time so I think by the end of the season we will have seen him play RCB (like ya say) . In Nuno we trust 👍.

07 Oct 2020 09:31:45
Great transfer window, some real class brought in, doc, Jota, Vin all go with my best wishes for the future.

I believe what has come in will prove to be upgrades on what has gone out, usual classy business done by the club can't wait for Nuno to get to grips and gel them in, not expecting overnight success definitely new tactics style of play, this will take time as we have seen a lot of work to be done.

Cant wait until it starts to click. Patience is a virtue and as a long in the tooth Wolves fan I have that in abundance, 40yrs at the mol does that to a man lol.

07 Oct 2020 09:32:06
Could be a nice problem - too many quality players at the back!
Wonder why we didn't get an experienced CM in as well as Vitor though - think that is the area, despite a good performance from Dendoner v Fulham, that now looks the weakest.
As you say though Nuno more than deserves our trust!

04 Oct 2020 18:13:50
Ait Nouri done deal.

04 Oct 2020 20:09:37
The YouTubes can make a crap player look good/ great but Rayan Ait Nouri seems to have a very good defensive side to his game (excellent at going forward and not Afros to take on a man) . This is what Ruben Vinagre was lacking (sadly) I have nothing but good wishes for RV in his loan move to Olympiacos or wherever he ends up.

As an FYI the only time I’ve witnessed the YouTubes making a bad player look bad was Rajiv van La Parra.

04 Oct 2020 22:21:55
Watching him against PSG on friday. You could tell he was a player!

Bags of confidence on the ball. Very neat and tidy but has a nice flair about him. Good at quick interplay pass and move.

Defensively I think it's going to be a step up. As far as prospects go it's a no brainer, ability wise I think we will see a big difference from Vinagre.

But early days! And it's an option not obligation to buy.

04 Oct 2020 22:53:04
Van La Parra was hardly bad, Debbie. Did you ever see Ray Hankin play for us?

04 Oct 2020 00:04:36
Ruben Neves needs to start performing or else he will be the next one up the road with Jota.

04 Oct 2020 08:20:39
For what it's worth I think you might be right. I could see either him or Adama leaving next year.

I think it will be a case of which one we can get the most money for at that point.

Barring getting more european football of course which is entirely possible. You might see both stay. But in any case I couldn't see us losing more than one big player each window. Makes everything a lot more sustainable that way.

Jota went this window and its completely balanced the outgoings. It's just smart business, Fosun have proven they can do it. Time will tell if we can keep the team moving on same upward trajectory.

Exciting times.

04 Oct 2020 08:32:12
he's very underated he's playing in a deep position at the moment if donks was along side him he could be given that free roam role and Excel at it when he's on it he dictates the pace of the game and everything goes through him so your comment is just laughable and makes no sense I'd understand if it was a fair point but it's not.

04 Oct 2020 09:17:14
what jota did brilliantly was drop ack and make that attackng link
between defence and attack, neves for all his qualities doesn't have that which makes podence all the more important, donk and neves will break up play but west ham played round them and tbh we may as well not have had a midfield for the use it was., for me podence has become vital in a short time and without his attacking option I see us struggling to break many teams down,

04 Oct 2020 10:06:05
I think a couple bad results and fingers get pointed very quickly. Some issues need to be sorted, but Ruben is far from becoming obsolete! Bit far, he is a midfield metronome keeps the play ticking while breaking the play. Not to mention his range of passing which is second to none. Add in the occasional worldie and he's still our wonderkid from Porto! I think it's a case of tweaks or additions to get the best out of them and yes honestly to get that midfield working properly

But to say he isn't fit for purpose I agree is laughable.

04 Oct 2020 10:33:44
Agree with most of this thread West Ham lined up 451 and overpowered our midfield 2, when our attacks broke down they just came straight back at us.

04 Oct 2020 10:39:32
Agree to an extent cornishwolf.
I think the first priority is to tighten up defensively and rely on the counter attack for now.
After shipping 4 goals against West ham and it could of easily of been a few more I think 3 up top is leaving the midfield over run and having last seasons both wing backs out of the the back 5 we need an extra man in midfield to help the defence until all is back like last season in defencive back 5.
It may not be pretty to watch for a while but getting results is priority.
This is just my thoughts.
Against West ham neves had a great opportunity to score on another day could of scored and changed the game completely so all is not lost and something positive to build on.

04 Oct 2020 11:52:14
Neves is a brilliant player but he struggles to finish chances inside the box and he isn't particularly mobile getting forward. His natural position is 2 yards inside the opposition half. We need to find a way to keep width, switch play free up Neto Podence or Traore to run at defences, get support into Raul and fall back into a solid defensive shape. Glad that's Nuno and his team's issue not mine.

04 Oct 2020 12:55:08
As usual an interesting and thought provoking thread
Tom I was wondering why you believe we will be selling "top" players regularly going forwards?
Subject to the impact of the virus we don't need to for FFP reasons and as a football strategy it is v v risky.
Wolves currently will not, ( unlike Liverpool when the sold Coutinho), be able to attract ready made superstars to replace the players we sell so will have to gamble on unproven talent (as we are doing this year with Silva, Vitor, Hoover and now seemingly the French lad) .
Also this year have we really sold a top player? Jota obviously had been a star for Wolves and did have the potential to be so again but at present was merely a squad player unlikely to get much game time ahead of Podence, Neto and Traore let alone Silva! Vinagre was never more than a squad player, Costa was considered below standard and Doherty the one first 11 player who has left was given away not really sold!

04 Oct 2020 13:36:34
Victory - All you need is 14 players!
But seriously I think we can all agree the system worked really well over the last 3 years but is now looking awful!
So what has gone wrong?
Re your issues:
Keep width - 2 WBs and 2 Wide forwards in the system so that should be easy - although new WBs have to prove they are as good as the ones missing - v early days yet but big ask.
Switch play - we have really good passers of the ball Coady, Neves, Moutinho and Podence!
Wide men run at defs? Traore def does that as does Neto.
Support Jimenez - well a bit of problem there both before and def now, {Doherty, {a RWB! } was principal support player previously! }
Solid def shape - unchanged in system but seemingly struggling greatly due to Moutinho's legs and new WBs still to prove quality Marcal due to injury and Semedo only just arrived.
What has changed then?
Well both WBs are missing
Jonny is injured and so is his replacement Marcal - who looks limited but ok
But Doherty only just replaced by Semedo a v different type of player and unlikely to be able to give us the same things that Doherty did - attacking threat, physical presence in both boxes and "out ball". Hopefully he gives us other things - pace, skill on ball, passing?
And Moutinho has got old and lost his legs
1) Must buy a ready to play now box to box CM with a physical edge and goal threat - LC?
2) Assuming we can't correct the error of giving Doherty away, (you don't know how good someone was until they aren't there! ), buy a new ready to play new LWB (who can give you two way play unlike Marcal) so that the 2 WBs BETWEEN them can give us what Doherty did on his own.
Sadly despite the vast amount of money spent so far this summer we have done neither of those things.
Consequently whilst the squad might be far far better in two years time, (Cleary Nuno believes it will! ) the first 11 to day is markedly weaker, (presumably we, {not me! }, are happy to have a down year to consolidate)
However looking around the league - not just the big 6 who have all moved away from us - but Everton, West Ham, Newcastle, Leeds and others, {who have had far better summers and often spent less money than us in terms of preparing for 2020/ 21 football if not future seasons} now look like serious threats to us and the " down" year could be painful.
Fingers crossed for a reaction from all this afternoon!

04 Oct 2020 16:26:00
3 Points, by no means perfect but job done. A nice present of a midfield player tomorrow would be nice. Nice touches from a few today. We are not the only ones struggling a bit at the moment. Hopefully a bit more fluency will come after the break but with so many players away it may sadly take a bit longer!

04 Oct 2020 19:20:56
Agree with you thefututeisgold Doc was a crafty player that didn't stop at the last pass forward he kept running for the 1 2 with Adama usually or was the pivotal player so Adama could run in then it's a case of lining up Raul

Neves isn't a box to box player when do we see him in the final third unless he's lining up a shot at the edge of the box?

Jota the opposite he runs at defenders so does Podence so the side isn't balanced but the skills are there across the park

What are we missing? The killer ball forward we were so good at from Coady or Moutinho or even Saiss maybe Nuno has changed the strategy I don't know

There were some strange results this weekend so last week at West Ham probably not so weird

Concerned we have out 6 points from the bottom 2 clubs and all matches from now on will be tougher.

04 Oct 2020 20:41:14
I think we will definitely sell if we don't get european football. Is as simple as that.

Like I said wouldn't see it a problem keeping any of em if we do.

Way football is going this season we might find it tough. Early days of course. Neves Adama ect will need European football in the coming seasons.

05 Oct 2020 08:06:54
Tom - ok. So you think it will be the players wanting to go not us exiting them. let's hope not but fear you are correct!
Suspect our failure last season to secure Europa again has already impacted on us this summer.
Incredible to think that we are now "expecting" European football only a couple of years on from struggling in the Championship.
Must not forget that!

05 Oct 2020 16:13:02
Yeah 100% future, it's a funny old game. We have come a hell of a long way.

I do think many of our younger squad such as Neves + adama ect have long term aspirations of been in the champions league, and why shouldn't they. Would say if it's a matter of if they are patient enough to stick around for the fruition of our project. If we have a couple of average seasons the might second guess it.

Then we would be in a position of trying to get the best price for them naturally.

That said Traore looking to sign new deal potentially. These are all very much maybe situations

I always hope for the best and that they all stay. I guess there's still a realist in me at times.

07 Oct 2020 09:32:08
Future, I do not believe its a case of what's now gone wrong at all.

It is a case of a new style of play as Nuno has said numerous times of late they are trying something new a few new ideas.

To me it is clear we are going through a transition period, I think Nuno set up the old squad and tactics to reach where we are from the championship and 7th was as far as he believes that style will take us give or plus a position or two.

I believe he is now looking at playing a more attacking style further up the pitch more akin to the top 6 clubs style of play.

If you look at the normal style we sit back compact defend everyone knows their job inside out, and then hit on the break.

Look at our last 3/ 4 match's no compact defence midfield not in tune with the defence it is simply not the same shape despite starting positions, its a bit of a mess, and i believe that's because the players have been given slightly different instructions that they are, as a team struggling with, that's why I say we are in for a rough ride for a time, until as before the players get used to and understand the new system Nuno is introducing. Patience people :)

07 Oct 2020 16:08:35
Actually Thor I don't disagree with much of what you say - we are changing system, (although I am not as confident as you that I can see what the new system is) and have, as a result of bad luck and perhaps in Moutinho's case poor judgment, changed several players, so patience, (something I sadly lack after 50+ years of watching wolves), will be required.
However I think we were better than you think last year and could easily with just a smidgen of luck, {or as I said before bought Fernandes instead of Vitor and Silva/ Semedo) finished 3rd.
Consequently as I have said before I would have preferred evolution to revolution but luck hasn't been with us and maybe our hand has been forced.
Otto's injury, obviously not planned, has meant both WBs are missing and although highly predictable we don't seem to have been prepared for Moutinho's loss of vim (so far this year - although I am hopeful he will be better once we get everything settled down) .
It should however also be noted that most of the changes we have made to the squad are not very relevant as actually only one first 11 member has been sold - Doherty and only 1 first 11 player bought Semedo. All others are either for the future or cover for Otto (Marcal) .
The change to the system is though I agree obviously planned (or forced upon us if Doherty forced his move) as the whole system was predicated on Doherty's almost unique skill set (and possibly vice versa so he may well struggle at Spurs! ) and he was the one first 11 player sold!
It would have been better, I am sure you agree, to do this with a preseason to iron out the grmelins - like Patricio hitting balls to the RWB to head when they, (Semdedo or Traore) are small men unable to win much in the air! But we are where we are and I accept I will need to put up with a few weeks of less than spectacular results/ performances.
I think the timing is particularly frustrating though as this summer was a real chance to buy well - and we may have but only for the future not it seems today- and others have done so.
Hence whilst we are going backwards to go forwards others are going forwards.
Fingers crossed we can develop the new plan, integrate the new players and catch up the ground ceded to several of our rivals this year and next year or shortly thereafter be in a position to actually challenge!
Sorry - being retired gives you too much time to stew on these things!

08 Oct 2020 14:46:01
Future- I generally agree with what your saying and enjoy your posts but we were NEVER going to get Bruno Fernandes! I'm afraid it's not as simple as just adding up other transfers and going well we could have got that one instead mostly because we are talking about footballers and not patio sets! What I mean is simply being able to afford a fee does not mean you can sign a player! I guarantee you that at a conservative estimate Fernandes will be on around £180k-250k a week! That's before you include the huge bonuses tied to that, add to this the fact that when United signed him he was one of the most sort after CM in the world! Like I say I generally agree with the rest but have noticed you mention a couple of times that the club should of got Fernandes (like they didn't realise till he'd gone) but I'm afraid there's no reality to it! By the time he went to United we were probs about 2 years past our window of opportunity to be honest 👍.

09 Oct 2020 16:08:58
No I wasn't seriously suggesting we can currently compete in terms of wages or more likely aura for those type of players -we are 60 years past that (before either of us were born) . But illustrating both that we have paid huge amounts on these totally unproven kids (Iand that we aren't actually that bad already.

09 Oct 2020 16:18:15
Oops sent by error
was saying we had spent lots on these kids, (I accept some of you seem to know more about them than me but even at best surely we have to acknowledge that they do have v little experience) relative to the amounts others were spending on proven quality - Fernandes being the ultimate option AND that we are actually not a bad side already (think we were above Man U when they signed him) and don't need to rip it up and start again to move further up the league as perhaps I felt some seemed to think we do? .
As you know I am both v cautious re change and v loyal to what we have - perhaps lack the courage for the gamble that is change having seen it blow up so spectacularly over the years ( look at the money sir Jack spent on solutions - that never got us anywhere! ) .
Loving where we have been these last two years and just want it to continue!

03 Oct 2020 15:09:59
New 4 year deal for Jiminez.

03 Oct 2020 15:17:58
This is best news of the window next to Nuno. I said he was priceless for us.

Mean I wouldn't sell him for 100 mil.

03 Oct 2020 15:22:53
😀 another top signing.

03 Oct 2020 15:36:40
Good news!

03 Oct 2020 15:44:06
Fantastic news. :)

03 Oct 2020 16:04:19
Great new and shows commitment to wolves when he could of easily have joined a club who are in the champions league he must be confident of success with wolves this along with Nuno is the best buisness we have done this season fantastic news RAÙL is a true WOLF🐺🧡🖤🇲🇽🇲🇽.

03 Oct 2020 16:24:03
Very interesting news that Raúl has signed a new 4 year deal given he could literally have gone to any club he desired in this window. The thing I would take out of it is that Fosun have clearly given Jiménez assurance about what they intend doing in the next couple of years I think maybe failing UEFA ffp rules has hampered us this window but on paper we have plenty of young talent for nuno to nurture. The progress over the last 3 years has been staggering and maybe this season will be a consolidating one and we push on next season. don't think there’s any doubting Fosuns commitment and ambition for our club remains as strong as ever onwards and upwards.

03 Oct 2020 16:45:07
How long did Diogo have left on his contract when he went . The only thing contracts mean is that we get a bigger price if we sell.

03 Oct 2020 17:03:15
Si senor!

03 Oct 2020 17:06:28
So he's down the road then!

03 Oct 2020 17:55:20
Good news let's see if jimenez earns his money with some goals or assists tomorrow.

03 Oct 2020 18:36:14
He's always earned his money up until now.

03 Oct 2020 18:45:12
This is good news, it's a shame some can't see that. Perhaps they would be happier if he didn't sign?

03 Oct 2020 19:45:45
Wimbornewolf, don't worry there's always someone handy with a bucket of water!

02 Oct 2020 14:32:46
From Britney Spiers on Twitter - Ruben Vinagre is set to leave Wolves, looks like he's off to Olympiakos.

I'm told Wolves will sign French left-back Rayan Ait-Nouri, aged 19, from Angers to replace Vinagre in the squad. Loan deal with an option to buy.

02 Oct 2020 15:18:21
Maybe in lieu of payments we still owe for Daniel Podence, just a thought.

02 Oct 2020 15:23:55
2020 summed up! as stated below 'this is the weirdest transfer window"

02 Oct 2020 16:05:25
I've said it once before this summer. it's the borussia dortmund model we seem to be following of present. Buying the young wonderkids selling them for a premium down the line.

Whether that translates to that level of success I'm not sure.

02 Oct 2020 16:38:43
I wouldn't complain if we become as successful as Dortmund.

02 Oct 2020 16:52:06
Our squad for the Fulham game on Sunday would tell us if there are any major departures! Can't think we would risk a player if he's leaving on Monday! The prime worry would be Jimenez or Traore. It's not that we need the money, we don't. It's more about a player relishing a move to a higher placed club either here or abroad. I think Doherty and Jota were examples of this. Fingers crossed.

02 Oct 2020 16:52:32
I think your spot on there Tom, we are basically using Portugal (and occasionally France) the same way Dortmund are using England! Go hard for the best young talent we think we can get and use the long term financial gains to improve the team. Its a risky model no doubt, but if done well (like Dortmund have) then you end up with quality youngsters opting for your club because they know they will play/ develop. Look at Haaland, he had many of the biggest clubs chasing him and he went with Dortmund cause he knew he could make his name there. Yes he will probs move once he does but I suspect they will make at least £80m+ profit when he does!
Also let's be honest most were saying on here after the last game that Vinagre isn't good enough defensively (something I wouldn't disagree with) so for me it's great business! We switched a player Nuno already feels isn't up to it (long term) for a younger player who he clearly thinks could be! It is a weird window indeed and it will be a tough one for the club to sell positevly cause most of the gains won't be seen this season. For me I think its great! I always liked clubs that trusted and developed young talent, never thought I'd see the day when we would manage to attract such high calibre youngsters! COWY 🐺.

02 Oct 2020 16:54:35
Whats happening with Alex Telles?

02 Oct 2020 18:01:21
Telles is in talks with Penchester United apparantly (Manchester United) .

02 Oct 2020 18:28:06
We still need a midfielder I think.

02 Oct 2020 19:04:13
On a well known betting site, we're now clear favourites to sign Costa, will it happen?

02 Oct 2020 19:13:13
You're right guys, Telles is in talks with Penalty United. As some have noted, this is a weird window for Wolves, a ground-breaker in fact in my view. From ancient history, right up until last season, we signed players to gradually improve the team, and/ or get money in (Moxey selling Afobe comes to mind) . This window is not about improving the team gradually and strategically this season. If it was, we would have only strengthened in certain positions. Now it's all about juggling, trading players, shuffling the pack, making risky investments in young players (at the expense of experience) that might give us mega profits in the future. In footballing terms we've become like a puppy farm. That's fine if we improve our final league placing season after season, but it's giving Nuno huge headaches in assimilating inexperienced youngsters into the first team. These investments can only pay off if the kids are in the first team. Fabio Silva might notch up 25 goals for us this season and we might sell him for £100 mil, but the kids in our defence might be shipping goals at the same time. We're not growing organically like Liverpool (the Jota signing is classic Liverpool strategy, a player already proven in the PL) . What we're doing is like playing the stock market or the casino.

02 Oct 2020 19:20:27
I think the Douglas Costa one is just paper talk.

02 Oct 2020 19:21:25
No chance. need a midfielder not another winger.

02 Oct 2020 19:52:22
Deep - worrying? And is it really necessary?

02 Oct 2020 21:17:22
Apparently telles transfer to utd on hold as utd want to pay 10mil, not the 25 or the drop to 20,then 15,come on wolves step in quickly.

02 Oct 2020 21:38:43
Typical arrogant Utd. Depends if he'd come to us doesn't it?

02 Oct 2020 21:48:33
I suppose so ken, don't know who they think they are, is it Woodward or what, makes me think they not fully behind solksjar, there loss if they don't get him.
We should hammer Fulham shouldn't we?

02 Oct 2020 23:16:34
It would be nice if we did. It would paper over some cracks that need to be filled! There big lad up front could cause a bit of trouble but if we can't beat them comfortably then we should be concerned.

03 Oct 2020 09:26:15
Fulham will be no easy game, they had a hateful of chances against villa, Mitrovic missed loads of headers which he normally puts away, they play a lot of high crosses for him to get onto to, so we will need to be at our beat to take points, Prem has no easy games, so we need to be patient.

03 Oct 2020 10:47:31
Need striker, midfielder box to box, and defender not wing backs all the time how many wing backs have we.

03 Oct 2020 16:29:34
Heard rumour Rayan Ait Nouri had opted for Valencia. If true then Vinagre will not be moved on. Not a reliable source but he had both clubs chasing him and Mendez works closely with both.

03 Oct 2020 19:18:46
Surely you still sell Vinagre - at that price it is a great deal - and if the French boy won't come invest the money elsewhere. Telles (? ) Saka (? ) Alonso (? ) if LWBs needed. But isn't Marcal set to play there and With Otto back in the New year we will be well set there.
Personally I'd take the cash and not buy a new LWB but maybe take a box to box CM - big strong but comfortable on the ball. - LC from Chelsea (although I gather only available on loan) that would buy the time to allow Vitor to be eased into the Moutingho role without too much pressure and Moutinho out without us losing too many points!

03 Oct 2020 19:50:42
Thefutureisoldgold, I'm with you midfield player in before Monday or a couple of weeks if English. That would make me very happy. As the wife would say I'm easy pleased. LC would be great!

03 Oct 2020 20:56:04
Read this eve that the French lad is coming and for circa £13m
IF we are selling for north of £20m we could still pay a loan fee and wages for LC from the change?

03 Oct 2020 21:53:06
That would be great. Let's hope someone like that comes in.

04 Oct 2020 00:13:00
Deep Throat - if it is giving Nuno headaches, why is he doing it? It is him and Mendes who are doing the buying and selling. Jeff is just signing the cheques.

04 Oct 2020 19:53:13
Timmy - v good q.
The upside is vast - if just one of the kids becomes as good as some on here believe and we therefore sell for £100m Fosun make a massive profit BUT the downside is what we are seeing over the last 3 games i. e. the first 11 is not only not getting stronger it is actually getting weaker.

I agree Nuno must be onside with this as I can't imagine any manager being willing to risk the present for the owners future profit but it is brave to say the least.
However this would indicate that Nuno is in for the long run and Jimenez signing a new contract is also a v positive sign of his believe in the future at Wolves?

02 Oct 2020 13:46:20
Vinagre out to olympiakos . loan with 25 m by out.

02 Oct 2020 14:29:33
Think Pepe and Palhino to come in paid with the 25m of f vinagre.

02 Oct 2020 14:48:46
Olympiakos can't pay 25 m.

02 Oct 2020 15:31:29
Behave Vinagre worth 10 at best. Pulling their pants down if they buy him for that.

02 Oct 2020 17:20:48
If true hopefully we will buy someone who is an experienced premier league player can go into the first team and make it stronger not another 1 for the future or a gamble on a player adapting to British football.
With all the other sides around and about us strengthening - some markedly- can we afford to play the long game?
At the moment the only changes to the first team are the WBs out and Semedo and presumably Marcal in (and Moutinho got old! )
Hard to judge the new guys on such limited evidence so far and maybe individually they may be just as good or even better but I fear we haven't realised out how important to the system the old guys were. Doherty was not only the second most likely to score, (from RWB! ), one of our most creative players and a big physical presence in both boxes, he also gave us the "out ball" - enabling Patricio or Coady to relieve pressure by playing it up to him on the half way line where he either brought it down and played, (linking well with Traore and Jimenez), or nodded it on. But at least we were starting 50 metres+ from our goal
Now without him we simply can't keep the ball and are being over run. Crazily Patricio was still aiming punts at Traore's head!
Lets hope Semedo is good in the air and can replace Doherty but despite a £30m + price tag that isn't going to be easy especially as he is markedly smaller in a league where physicality is at a premium.
Oh dear said I wasn't going to go on about Doherty anymore BUT didn't expect us to be quite so awful as we have been for the last two games!
I know its not a popular view but Doherty was absolutely vital to the system and without him its showing!

02 Oct 2020 18:39:11
Thefutureisoldgold. Can't disagree with much you've said here. Obviously Ait Nouri is young but from what I've read looks better than Vinagre which is positive! The whole transfer thing is crazy at the moment all clubs seem to be scrambling around, maybe we're not done yet who knows. I'm inclined to give Nuno the benefit of doubt and see where we are after the international break. On a very positive note we've not bought a 40 million pounds Joelinton!

02 Oct 2020 18:57:47
Ken you are completely correct!
I have also read that this French lad is GOING to be great and clearly Vinagre wasn't AND yes still v comfortable that Nuno will do a great job again this year.
But I am nervous about the present - where due to time (Moutinho) Injury (Otto) and a bizarre give away (Doherty) the first 11 currently looks a lot weaker whilst most other teams look a lot stronger?
Beat Fulham with a good performance and maybe we can go to Leeds with confidence - a bad performance/ result and the international break could be a worrying time.
ps Do you realise we have paid significantly more for Silva and Vitor than Man U did for Fernandes.
That is the Fernandes who is prob one of the top 6 players in the league.
If we had bought him last Jan we would now be Europa league champs and would have finished 3rd in the league. The two boys from Portugal have a lot to live up to!

02 Oct 2020 19:32:14
Thefutureisoldgold. You're right about Fernandez. No doubt we had the money but he wouldn't have come to us I don't think, I suspect Vinicius was the same even though we offered more. Sunday will be interesting if Marcal isn't fit! Who plays? Buur is going. I'm guessing Bennett will be, I hope he gets his move to Norwich he served us well! Sanderson probably will go, maybe sold. We are certainly trimming the squad a bit. I'd very much like a really class midfield player so Vitinha can play gradually rather than chucked in the deep end. Anyway what do I know!

02 Oct 2020 19:46:29
After a couple of our displays I'd love Palhina.

02 Oct 2020 20:07:29
Nuno, agreed. He hasn't played the last couple of games, maybe he's waiting with his bags packed! We can but hope!

02 Oct 2020 23:18:38
Agreed Nuno. I think he'd do a good job for us.

03 Oct 2020 09:17:14
Agreed Ken68.very physical and played well against us.

02 Oct 2020 20:07:29
Nuno, agreed. He hasn't played the last couple of games, maybe he's waiting with his bags packed! We can but hope!

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