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04 Dec 2021 23:59:12
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Also more posts are being added to the Wolves Discussion Posts page

04 Dec 2021 08:41:35
Newcastle poised to sign Adama Traore in January

04 Dec 2021 09:39:36
They’ve been linked with everyone from Adama Traore to George Best.

04 Dec 2021 13:43:22
Debbie they also tried to get the common taters ( deliberate ) from Match of the Day to turn out. Plus Malcolm MacDonald. Seriously I hope the fans get something to shout about at last, they've been shouting about nothing but rubbish for as long as we did I think. Only we didn't go on about it as much as they have!

26 Nov 2021 19:25:58
Tim Spiers saying Marcal fit, Jordao fit but will play in u23s to gain match fitness, Boly you guessed it injured.

27 Nov 2021 14:57:48
Traore on the bench again, no way is he signing a new contract.

What’s up with Boly? he’s had no luck with injuries lately.

27 Nov 2021 18:37:26
Memo to Bruno Lage, Adama Traore is a WINGER. Goodness knows how any manager worth the job can not see this. Trincao is so ineffctive yet gets the nod before Traore. Then when he finally is bought on he is played as a wing back, when this does not work he is back on the bench, while the team struggle to break opponents down, Traore is always likely to produce something special. Also first impressions of Hwang were good but looking quite ordinary last couple of games.

28 Nov 2021 12:21:19
Good comments Ray389,glad of collecting a point but that was bad to watch,we had nothing going forward, did we have a shot on goal, also free kicks and corners were terrible.
We need to change things against Burnley, because the team we played against Norwich will be to light weight against a physical Burnley side in my opinion who will be strong in the air as well.

24 Nov 2021 18:59:29
Fair few rumours we'll be back in for Botman in January - if Lille don't mess around again we'll be up against a few big clubs for him but in with a good chance supposedly.

25 Nov 2021 11:52:41
Let's hope so Wolfflea71, him and Kilman together, backed up by Boly, Saiss and Sanderson sounds pretty good to me.

24 Nov 2021 18:54:28
According to sky Traore now available for £20 mil. Someone is having a laugh!

24 Nov 2021 20:33:08
That is way too low wombourneron, I think that came from the belief that Wolves have to raise cash to buy Hwang in January. Which imo is BS as why would they start that conversation if they couldn't afford him. However, if a Traore transfer facilitates moves for the new players Wolves need/want and can get in January, I'm sure they will sell him.

24 Nov 2021 20:50:21
Agreed as long as the price is right.

25 Nov 2021 07:29:58
Not a chance we get over 30 for Traore in current form/playtime with the contract running down.

25 Nov 2021 12:28:07
Add ons deal may be an option, but yes the January window is traditionally a bit of a firesale storm, 25 mil might well be good value in the current market.

26 Nov 2021 10:31:07
Traore Sold already to fund Hwang and Trincao imo . Between 30/35 million.

26 Nov 2021 16:08:45
I'm not sold on Trincao rather us go for someone like Noni Madueke

28 Nov 2021 12:33:10
At the moment on is performances Trincao is not worth the money they want for him,we seam to be paying way over the odds for players all the time the list just goes on Silva,Cutrone,Semedo although I like him are just a few come to mind, but whoever is responsible for our recruitment needs to be sorted out.

22 Nov 2021 07:48:52
I see the papers and rumour mill are now claiming Hwang would be an upgrade on Origi and so Liverpool will be in for him in Jan. Obviously the reporters don't understand what an option to buy clause is (seeing as we have one in place as part of his loan deal) so unless Leipzig can pay us off Liverpool and City can't buy him.

I can understand rumour sites stating this sort of misconception but when paid journalists who should know better get away with it does make you wonder what they are being paid for!

22 Nov 2021 08:51:48
We can't force Hwang to sign. If he gets his head turned, bigger signing on fee, wages etc. he can go where Leipzig allow. The agreement only works if player and club agree surely?

22 Nov 2021 10:17:07
Didn't Hwang join Wolves to get game time, pretty much guaranteed thanks to his performances to date. Surely the option to sign is already a pre-agreed deal between all parties, with Wolves holding the cards.
I can't see Hwang wanting to go back to bench warming duties when he can play every week for us.

22 Nov 2021 10:22:43
I explained this last week. Fifa rules stipulate that a player can be registered with 3 clubs during a season but can only play for 2. As he made 2 appearances for Leipzig, he wouldn't be able to play for anyone other than us or Leipzig (if they recall him).

We have a deal in place with Leipzig so if another club wants to hijack the deal there are 3 options:

Leipzig pay us a termination compensation fee and then negotiate with the other club.

The other club pay us a compensation fee to step aside.

The other club negotiates directly with us so that we buy the player as per the loan agreement and then immediately sell him on to the other club.

However the fact remains that Hwang cannot play for any other team this season and we will get compensation if Leipzig go back on the loan agreement. Its a win win for us in every circumstance.

22 Nov 2021 16:12:36
Agreed on the above we hold the cards in this one.

It's happened before player is signed for the option fee then immediately moved on.

He has that super sub quality that would fit a bigger team. Don't see the sense in passing first team football up for that. He would be another shaqiri.

Highly doubt he won't be a Wolves player moving into next season.

23 Nov 2021 12:10:31
Jas M.very clearly explained. Some sado journalists trying to create "clicks"

23 Nov 2021 13:21:40
Jas M might recall if it's a similar situation to Tammy Abraham a couple years ago. Nuno wanted him, but he was owned by Chelsea and loaned to Villa. I think Villa were willing to step aside as they couldn't afford him. I think we offered £27mil to Chelsea but the deal broke down. It was probably against FIFA rules.

23 Nov 2021 20:55:50
I don't think Tammy made an appearance for Chelsea that season so he could have joined us as we would have been the 3rd club he'd be registered with but only the 2nd club he actually played for.

23 Nov 2021 23:26:50
Jas is correct (as per:) Tammy didn't make an appearance for Chelsea that season, pretty sure we agreed a fee but he was just holding out on the hopes of breaking into the Chelsea first team. And there in lies the challenge Sellars faces. Most young players would prefer to stick with their high wages on the off chance of a top four app rather than take their chances on a mid table gamble. Just one of those things sadly.
As for Hwang I think peeps need to remember anything read in a paper comes with a serious does of salt! Pool could have signed him anytime in the last two years (like us) for a fee of £12-15m! Just paper talk, probs started by his agent as he knows we'll be talking contracts come Jan/June! I love Hwang and think he's an excellent addition but let's remember the graft that Jota and Mane had to put in to get recognition. Mind you I hope we sign him, like I said an excellent addition. It does beg the question as to why Nuno choose Jose instead back in Jan last year?! Me thinks it was an early sign of rebelling against the transfer team, clearly we wanted him all along (we being the club) and now we are all seeing why 👍🐺

15 Nov 2021 18:15:35
Wonder if we are interested in Tarkowski a few things in the press today but I suppose would he come in January probably a few will try but the temptation of a free with a signing on fee at the end of the season will no doubt be in his mind.

{Ed002's Note - James Tarkowski (CB) options are Newcastle and Wolves.}

15 Nov 2021 18:44:37
Would be a decent signing and a proven CB. I can’t see Burnley wanting to lose him on a free.

15 Nov 2021 21:56:31
You would have to be disappointed not at least to be in for a player like him.

Talking of things we don't want to miss out on. Watched Vitinha for Portugal under 21. Looked outstanding. Really hope that doesn't turn into a Pedro Goncalves situation. I fear it might. Could always go back in for him.

15 Nov 2021 23:03:21
Tommy. The thing is as I see it there's only so much in the pot. Sanches 25m a starter. Vitinha 20m. Is he a starter? I don't think so 10m on the bench then yes.
Tarkowski Jan say 5m yes please.
Bottman Jan 35m. I know value when I see it. My opinion obviously!

16 Nov 2021 07:20:08
Yeah completely agree Ken there is only so much we can do. I think we could have got Vitinha for way less than 20. I don't think we will actually spend big in Jan.

It rarely presents much in the way of value for money.

16 Nov 2021 10:33:10
Tommy - I admit I haven't seen him play for the U21s and so can't comment on that performance but would note that he has always been superb in junior football - when he was with us he ran the show for Portugal against England U21 - but to date he never reproduced that in adult football (similar to Silva).
Will he ever? For £20m that is a gamble we simply can't afford to take.
If we could buy him (and had bought Silva) for the sort of money we sold Owen or bought Yerson then maybe it would be an idea worth persuing.
Ps Yes to Tarkowski but fear that as Ed2 notes Newcastle will be in for him as well and will offer far more in wages than we will even though you are getting him way below value and so could afford a higher wage ( at the risk of upsrtting thr dressing room mind!)

16 Nov 2021 13:54:57
I too haven't seen too much of him this season but there must be a reason why he has only started 3 of the 15 games Porto have played. No goals, assists or big chances created during the 416 minutes he's been on the pitch.

16 Nov 2021 15:53:05
As an addendum to my comments above. I have previously mentioned Lingard who at 15m presents a bargain who would be a starter pretty much anywhere in the prem except where he is obviously! Problem only being salary but compared to Vitinha who to me is a lightweight its a no brainer.

16 Nov 2021 17:11:50
Ken - he is currently on 75kpw allegedly. If we can't pay that wage, (or indeed even a slightly higher figure!) to a player who would (if his time at WH is anything to go by) take us to another level - probably more than earning his wage just in the increased prize money we would earn then we have real problems and no ambition.
Sadly as you say it is a no brainer so there will be numerous clubs in for him and some may well be willing not just to pay him the 75k pw + I mentioned but in fact far far more which we probably can't or shouldn't do. Consequently I think it will be hard to persuade either him or indeeed any players of that quality to join us now.
To get back to where we were, (competing for Europa qualification) will now cost far far more than it would have cost us to push on and reach Champions league football.
Stich in time saves nine or penny wise pound foolish both sum it up perfectly.
We were so close but I fear it may never come again in my lifetime as the gap to the now big 3 is wider than ever due to the money differential and Arsenal who we had clearly overtaken have finally, on the back of a good youth program, recovered to some extent whilst the remaining members of the so called big 6, Man U and Spurs, who we were competing with continue to throw cash at the problem on a scale we can't even imagine. Just to rub salt into the wound several more clubs WH, Leicester and maybe even Brighton, etc etc (who, perhaps with the exception of Leicester, weren't even in our rear view mirror we were so far ahead of them) are pushing for the European places and it is hard to argue that they (or at least some of them) won't end the season above us.

16 Nov 2021 21:13:12
Linked in rumours with John Swift from Reading. Really like him. He was a huge prospect coming through the Chelsea ranks. Now 26 years old and looks quite a different player in recent years. Looks to have bulked up a bit and consequently stronger. Started this season, his last in contract at Reading, really strongly, with goals and assists. Plays a similar role to Dendonker and I think looks a better prospect for our style of play. Would also make a good financial deal, as Dendonker would demand a bigger fee than we would have to pay for Swift.

17 Nov 2021 09:31:03
future. Put quite a long comment on here about this last night where on earth it's gone I've no idea! Not the first time this has happened but anyway I agree with you on this. Plus I wrote a very long piece on it so I'm not best pleased but heh that's life! Can't be bothered doing it all again.

{Ed001's Note - was it this one?

16 Nov 2021 20:43:14

future. Shock I agree with you! The top six boat has sailed sadly. The reality being Seville proved a catalyst for a number of things. Though prior to that the loss of Thelwell who was the buffer and the glue. He kept Shi and Nuno apart. Seville fueled Nuno to push on but Shi in reality I knew the money wasn't there for a big push I think he wanted to consolidate hence the big spend on a young player for the future but also one quality player to partly fuel Nuno. As we know it didn't work! For Shi though I think he was very brave in giving the job to Lage which to me was a massive gamble, staked his job on it think. There were safer hands out there! I'm very impressed with Bruno so far and obviously support him 100%. I hope we significant funds to invest in the players that Bruno wants in January even though it's not the best time to buy historically. I fear though it will come at the expense of losing Traore who I will miss very much. I think he's on his way pretty sure his head has been turned he's clearly unlikely to sign the new contract. If that is the case now's the time to sell his value is only going to go down now! A massive shame really.


If it is not then the comment never came through. The likelihood is your internet dropped at some point and so it got lost. It used to happen all the time in the old days of phones as the connections were so poor.}

17 Nov 2021 10:19:31
Thistle I have also seen this rumour and it sounds interesting particularly as you would hope, given his contract situation, we can get a bargain.
Are you suggesting though that we sell Dendonker to fund this?
Surely we don't need to do that?
Plus as I said to Longmynd Wolf in an earlier thread I think we need to add 3 net not gross so swapping Dendonker for Swift numbers wise gets us nowhere

17 Nov 2021 11:06:17
You have to smile when you see some posts, seeking out bargains and value for money signings on behalf of our owners, makes no difference to fans What transfer and signing on fees are or any other financial arrangements, they didn’t seem too concerned about how their customers are fixed for cash when they increased ticket prices and quietly upped their car park charges to ten pounds, could ask the question “What have they done for us”, showed they could mount a challenge if they wanted to, then settled for glad to be here mid - table mediocrity.

17 Nov 2021 11:20:05
Ken - Bizarelly I think Shi was wrong if he thought we couldn't afford to push on. In fact I think it has cost us money, (a substantial reduction in revenues from prize money, tv and the commercial exploitation of the brand etc etc) not to have done so - even before you count the diminution of the value of the club.
I also actually don't think it did need a lot of money - just well spent money and in a previous thread I detailed what we could have done with the money we did spend that summer (note there were a lot of players sold that summer that would have assisted our move to the next step). Remember that year we had a really strong side - its still not a bad one today despite the failure to spend well over the last couple of years - so the step up required was a v modest one
In any case although we didn't buy a CB, CM or CF that now pretty much everyone agrees we should have we did as you say spend pretty chunky amounts JUST badly massively overpaying for Semedo, Hoever and most spectacularly Silva.
Losing Thelwell, Dalrymple and then Nuno was also a disaster.
To lose one is unfortunate to lose all three? - Ask Oscar Wilde!
The idea that you can consolidate is a tough one as well - everyone is pushing really hard, so standing still really means going backwards.
But we have had this debate a thousand times just like the Traore one. There are various threads on here about him even now as he is the ultimate marmite player.
I have stated my views on him, (his potential, end product etc etc) a million times which are in line with the views of the major clubs in Europe and their managers.
If he leaves you fear that just like Jota he will blossom and then even his harshest critics will be able to tell that we gave away a world class player that we may nver see the like of again at Wolves.
Ouch!
But yes Lage has done v well and given funds this Jan we may regain some of the ground lost -but top 6 let alone top 4 now seems unlikely?

17 Nov 2021 11:28:46
Ed001 yes thank you that is the one! I wondered where on earth it had gone!

Oxley. I like a significant number on here post because I see it as a group of people who like the club but for whatever reason like speculating about the club without any expectations of any of these things happening. Obviously I only speak for myself above all who does it harm? No one, bit of fun! I don't forecast stupid unattainable prices plus if the owners ever took any notice of anything I were to say I'd be shocked. Its a business is it not! It exists to make money that's all.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know where it went, sorry. It just appeared in the list we have of previous posts. I will get Ed33 to have a look and see if there is an issue.}

17 Nov 2021 12:16:04
Oxley totally understand your frustrations and view re the relationship of the club with its fans.
Sadly though football is not a local community thing any more with the butcher owning the club and the players being lads who the fans went to school with and who live in modest houses in the area.
It is a multi trillion pound global industry whose owners, players, managers etc live, (as a result of the countless millions thrown at them), in a gilded palace far away from reality and us!
This means the key man at the club is no longer the star striker, the captain or even the manager but the CEO who organises the millions/ (or even billions) required to compete at the top level these days.
So to your point sadly it is all about the money and its careful/clever use so its no surprise posters comment on it.
In days gone by a Brian Clough or a Bobby Robson could take a modest side and make them winners - not any more! All (well virtually all) the trophies go to the big money teams.
If we want trophies you must manage the money!
For us yes the last couple of years haven't been as succesful as the 2 or 3 that preceeded them and I have (regularly despite being castigated for it) pointed out Jeff's failings.
But we are still in the game and Lage is doing ok with what he was left with and as a fan I still (perhaps foolishly) believe/hope that the Future will be old gold - (not Chelsea blue or Man U red!)

17 Nov 2021 12:25:28
Ed001 no worries. I know the internet didn't drop because it conks the tv when it does. As she who must be was watching and I had the use of the laptop (for a change) instead of trying to follow my own thread on my phone!

{Ed001's Note - wow mate, you were spoilt!!}

17 Nov 2021 12:46:31
future. Quite I don't think we were that far away. I didn't understand our buying policy that summer not much logic to it. Semedo though has become far better this season though maybe took a long time to settle. Remember Henderson's first season at Liverpool, fans I knew didn't have a good word to say about him him, then! One of my oldest friends who is a Sunderland supporter just said wait and see. Semedo seems to have become a good club man supporting young players, good for him.
Hindsight is wonderful and we can speculate all we like I just hope they make a difference in January.
Swift is interesting a rare thing a chance to get British player with little prem experience and normally you'd have to pay a premium to find out if he's good enough. It's a rare opportunity to not have to spend a fortune to find out though there could be a lot of competition for him.

17 Nov 2021 13:11:06
Ed001 yes I know awfully generous of her I thought! Generally if I'm good she allows me to drive her wherever she wants to go! Never wanted to drive purely I reckon to avoid becoming the designated driver! No fool is she!

{Ed001's Note - that's so she can make sure you can't drink, after all she wouldn't want you to go enjoying yourself or anything.}

17 Nov 2021 13:40:53
Ed001 doesn't work just means we have to find the car the day after!

{Ed001's Note - then she has a nice ready-made excuse to be angry with you. It is win-win for her!}

17 Nov 2021 15:37:08
Ed001. One is always in it, it's just the depth that varies!

{Ed001's Note - fair point, it is amazing the lengths a woman can go to in order to be angry with you over something that you have no control over. My friend's wife didn't speak to him for a week because she dreamed about him kissing another woman. A whole week before he even found out why she was giving him the cold shoulder!}

17 Nov 2021 17:15:20
Ed001. That's a new one, mind you after 43 years I'm inclined to believe anything! I did recently read a sentence that had "wedded" and "bliss" in it. Never thought that happened or was allowed for that matter! I just keep my mouth shut first thing and see how the land lies first.

{Ed001's Note - to be fair, I think he would have called that week about as close to wedded bliss as you can get. I find it helps to apologise early, just in case and let them wonder why I am apologising. It keeps my gf busy trying to figure out what I have done wrong so you can get angry with me, but as she can't find out what it is she is extra nice to try and get me to lower my guard and admit my indiscretion.}

17 Nov 2021 17:53:23
Good luck with that one, don't hold your breath though. Generally I just accept I won't win, they can go on ad infinitum.

{Ed001's Note - fair point.}

17 Nov 2021 20:43:14
future. Shock I agree with you! The top six boat has sailed sadly. The reality being Seville proved a catalyst for a number of things. Though prior to that the loss of Thelwell who was the buffer and the glue. He kept Shi and Nuno apart. Seville fueled Nuno to push on but Shi in reality I knew the money wasn't there for a big push I think he wanted to consolidate hence the big spend on a young player for the future but also one quality player to partly fuel Nuno.

As we know it didn't work! For Shi though I think he was very brave in giving the job to Lage which to me was a massive gamble, staked his job on it think. There were safer hands out there! I'm very impressed with Bruno so far and obviously support him 100%. I hope we significant funds to invest in the players that Bruno wants in January even though it's not the best time to buy historically.

I fear though it will come at the expense of losing Traore who I will miss very much. I think he's on his way pretty sure his head has been turned he's clearly unlikely to sign the new contract. If that is the case now's the time to sell his value is only going to go down now! A massive shame really.

14 Nov 2021 14:47:32
Paper talk: Liverpool and Man City are targeting Hwang. Good job we have an option to clause

14 Nov 2021 21:24:57
The options available to Man City and Liverpool regarding Hwang Hee-Chan:
1: They can only negotiate with RB Leipzig at the end of the season but only if we don't take up the option to purchase the player.

2: Either team can pay us a compensation fee for us to 'step aside' so that the loan agreement can be terminated and they negotiate with his club in the summer.

3: Negotiate directly with Wolves in January so that we buy him earlier than agreed with RB Leipzig and agree a fee to sell him in the summer to either Man City or Liverpool.

However, the fact that a player can only play for 2 teams during a season means makes it highly unlikely that he will be joining either of them teams in January.

14 Nov 2021 23:00:37
Tks for the clarification Jas.

14 Nov 2021 23:04:04
Yes we need to tie this guy to a contract asap. On another issue interesting article in the daily mail the other day from some academic on how much each club can spend based on ffp and recent published accounts.

15 Nov 2021 17:01:00
Please excuse my ignorance but has he already played for Leipzig this season

15 Nov 2021 17:48:09
Answering my own question he played 2 Bundesliga games, so he cannot play for a third team this season

15 Nov 2021 18:38:52
Thanks Jas for your comment

13 Nov 2021 19:16:41
Micky van de Ven is on Wolves radar for January window

{Ed002's Note - He will not be moving in January and would not get a Work Permit to play in England.}

09 Nov 2021 13:55:08
Hwang deal will be confirmed in January. While Wolves will look to try and get Sanches on loan to buy deal from Lille. Which will leave funds to buy a central defender. The club are willing to listen to offers for Dendoncker who isn’t popular with Lage.

10 Nov 2021 12:04:50
Another from ITK RM where would this site be without him?

11 Nov 2021 14:17:42
Scroll down 6" ITK RM J, we've already had this conversation

03 Nov 2021 09:19:29
I've been reading that in addition to the Donny van de Beek interest Lage is still keen on Renato Sanches so Wolves will re-visit that one. One or the other I would imagine.
Also, they are looking to sign Hee Chan Hwang permanently for about £14M. Let's see what January brings.

{Ed002's Note - There is still interest from clubs, including Wolves, in Sanches.}

03 Nov 2021 10:50:46
Obviously Sanches is untried at PL level, but Hwang isn't. Four goals in eight appearances says that, plus a good disallowed goal against Everton. Hwang has taken to the PL like a duck to water. We could sign him in January. I would be interested in Donny as well, as he has at least settled into life in England, which is sometimes difficult to do, unlike Rafa Mir, etc.

{Ed001's Note - Sanches isn't untried at PL level - he played and flopped badly for Swansea in the Prem.}

03 Nov 2021 11:10:10
Longmynd I think in Jan we need to add 3 bodies - net not gross! .
I was thinking 2 CBs and one CM but if you take both of those 2 plus one CB it would make a great Jan.
If we get two mids you move Dendonker back to CB cover not CM cover!
If i'm being greedy I would want a back up CF in case Jimenez gets an injury as i'm not sure Hwang down the middle on his own would work?
Thoughts?

03 Nov 2021 12:34:18
To be fair Ed002 that's been a few years ago now 2017/18, he does appear to have come on a bit.

TFOG I think that's not far off, however, with Kilman and Saiss playing so well now and with Boly in reserve and Dendonkers ability to cover at CB I think Lage will focus on a skilful attacking midfielder to play with Neves. Moutinho will inevitably need more downtime.

Maybe, a loan striker to cover Raul, but as they've said they won't take just anybody.

Still a bit mystified with the Traore situation unless a deal is already done for a January move. It was interesting how well the team worked on Monday without him. I always felt Nuno unbalanced the side just to fit him in.

{Ed001's Note - it's 1 not 2! Not convinced he has come on, he is playing in a weak league, constantly picks up niggly injuries and still the same slow-thinking player he was back then. He doesn't look suited to a fast-paced league, it is that simple. He has the speed of thought of roadkill, but you can get away with it in France where you have time and space on the ball. Similar to international footie, it is a totally different game to the Prem.}

03 Nov 2021 13:57:51
Sorry Ed001 I didn't notice that it was you commenting. Apparently, Liverpool and Arsenal are amongst the clubs considering him, besides Wolves.
Personally, I don't follow French football so I can't comment, but as you say the Prem is another level, in terms of pace of play.

{Ed001's Note - I know, I dread the thought of Liverpool signing him! Given time and space he is a good player, but so are most professional players as it is easy to play when given time and space. He also has a terrible fitness record and carries way too much weight, I have no idea why Liverpool would have any interest in him, he does not fit Klopp's style at all. At least he has stopped passing to advertising hoardings now, so he has improved from his Swansea days....}

03 Nov 2021 15:06:36
Ed001. Nothing like being a bit bitchy, speak your mind why don't you! I think with Bruno knowing the player well ATM I trust his judgement and I think if he get his shirt on the right way round he'd be better than some of the players we've been linked too in the last twelve months or so!

{Ed001's Note - hardly being bitchy, I could have said a lot more if I was. You can trust his judgement, but it was him that pushed to take him to Swansea too, so not sure I would be that keen to trust that kind of judgement.}

03 Nov 2021 16:11:58
I can see both sides of the argument here. During Euro 2016, Sanches was a revelation and got a big move to Bayern Munich but couldn't replicate his form. Swansea was a disaster and the move to Lille has rekindled his career. If Bruno can get him adjusted to the pace of the PL, he could be an asset to us. There are many players in the PL who have come from France and some have adapted well, (Marcal and Ait-Nouri spring to mind) whereas some won't (Morgan Sansom). Hopefully we will loan him in order to see how he settles rather than buy him outright.

{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed if you get him, he works out for you.}

03 Nov 2021 17:55:10
There talk of wolves in for highly rated Stoke defender 23 years old apologies I don't have his name.
I'm sure someone will put his name on.
I think sanches can be a cracking signing and hopefully like Ed001 says if we get him he works out to be a cracking signing for us.
All I do is put my trust in fosun and Lage if they sign him to me they must have the belief that he is a quality addition.
When he in a wolves shirt then all will be decided good/bad.
All a matter of opinions and this is mine.👍

03 Nov 2021 18:00:43
Passing to advertising hoardings 😂 I might be jumping to conclusions here, but I'm guessing you're not a fan. 😉

03 Nov 2021 18:02:49
I think Hwang is obviously a no brainer.

Donny van de Beek makes sense as an addition too. More attacking threat from midfield. I actually think he is slightly underrated on the defensive end too. Can definitely put a tackle in.

I'd love to see the Renato addition especially with the progress he has made. I hold reservations whether he would jump from a Champions League team, albeit its only Lille not a top tier CL team. The ingredients are there. Gestifute cleint and Portuguese. Let's see.

03 Nov 2021 18:12:15
Harry Souttar the highly rated Stoke defender.

03 Nov 2021 19:52:49
Phil - seen that but as BullyB always says the British premium may put us off?
Longmynd - I hear you re Kilman but Boly and Saiss will be gone for AFN this Jan and are both the wrong side of 30 and in Boly's case in particular are starting to become injury prone. Given we play with 3 and only have 4 plus Dendonker we are probably a body short anyway so I think we def need to add 1 and as I say would probably prefer 2 as I think Neves, Moutinho and 1 backed up by Dendonker is more "adequate" than our back 3 options plus 1.
Interesting the views on Sanches - I have to admit my only knowledge of him is Swansea so tend to agree with Ed 01 but his reviews from France have been v strong and Lage to date has done enough more than earn my trust and if he wants him v happy to go down that route.
Surely we could also have the same thoughts on Van de Beek - his time at United for whatever reason has been far from successful but his time at Ajax was a huge success?

03 Nov 2021 20:27:19
Thefutureisoldgold
I think January window it's going to be very hard to find a club where they going to sell a premier league quality c/b.
The homegrown route agree the price will be inflated in the Stoke defender.
The rise of kilman this season has been brilliant.
Mosquera I looked back the forecast for his return is an estimate with such surgery he had usually 4 to 5 months so it looks a little too close for his return when boly and saiss are away in Africa cup of nations but it may be, (there's still 2 months before January.)
We could get a loan.player who knows it's just a guessing game at present.

03 Nov 2021 20:30:04
Sorry Longmynd didn't comment on your Traore point. If you have ever read my posts on here you know I am a massive fan!
However with Neto coming back and Hwang playing so well we do appear well stocked with "Widemen" {Podence is excellent and Trincao will have his fans as well) cf CB,CM CF.
Surely if we do sell him though we must get far more than the £35m being touted. He is twice the player Jota is and he went for £40m and look how he has worked out playing for a side able to exploit his talents better than we did/can.
To get the best out of Traore we do need to play faster and more directly than we currently are doing so but if we want to be a top side we need to do that anyway!

03 Nov 2021 21:13:52
Phil as always you make sensible points.
Yes it is going to be v hard - Jan is normally even tougher than Summer!
But despite Kilman's emergence, who has been a revelation, I think we do need to get someone in (sadly agree Jan will come too soon for Yerson and he is still a player with potential not a proven article as he has virtually no adult football behind him and what he has is in Columbia - hardly Prem league standard).
Could Sanderson be brought back and do a job - although he is also unproven at the very top level?
However you look at it its going to be interesting.
ps Do you remember us discussing the next 8 games - 5 games ago. The predictions looking good now. Fingers crosed we can close out the 8 undefeated and with perhaps another couple of wins!
pps Merry Christmas!

03 Nov 2021 21:33:45
Phil - wacky idea
What about taking that chap Nat Phillips from Liverpool as part of the money they owe us?
He was excellent for them as an out and out old fashioned stopper - something we lack when Boly isn't playing - and we shoud be able to negotiate a good deal given the "relationship" between the clubs I e they still owe us a bucket load for Jota and want to buy Traore (as will half the top clubs in Europe!).

03 Nov 2021 21:40:41
Sound mate I do remember your predictions think we both smiling now.
Long may it continue our good form.

Ps cheers 🍻

Lol the fireworks are too loud my cat is shivering under my Xmas tree.
Lol up the wolves.

03 Nov 2021 23:27:52
I must admit TFOG that I hadn't considered the AFN re; Boly and Saiss, so yes another central defender may well be under consideration. May even be a Sanderson recall, as you suggest.

No problem on a Traore response, I admit he is a real crowd pleaser and I do agree the game needs to keep up with him. Maybe this has contributed to his 'no end product' reputation as only the very best can do it all alone.

As the team evolves into Lage's faster attacking model he may become more effective but I just think he will get sold as his 'imminent signature' hasn't happened. The club seem pretty adamant on £50M, however.

12 Nov 2021 16:51:40
Hi Thefutureisgold, I really do have to disagree with Traore being better than Jota .
Yes he is more dynamic and exciting moving forward but loses the ball to often same when he tries to bring the ball out of defence causes us problems,and of course not much of an end product.
Jota who I rated very highly was excellent when bringing the ball out yes he lost it sometimes but had great link up with Raul hence both scored goals. As someone has said I think Nuno unbalanced the side because he had to have Traore in and I think the tactics were wrong. Jota was a tough cookie and didn’t sit on his ass slapping the floor when he lost the ball,
Don’t get me wrong I love to watch Traore in full flow but he’ 25 now and we cannot wait forever

12 Nov 2021 16:58:54
Forgot to say that Jota was a far far better team player than Traore


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