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13 Jul 2021 19:30:35
From wolves official website as everyone has probably seen Ryan Giles joins Cardiff City on loan.
Hoping he does well under Mick Macarthy and Terry connor.
With our home grown always want them to succeed you never know a fantastic season at Cardiff and we could have a decent player in the making.
All you can do is keep an eye on his progress and hope he makes the headlines in the championship.
Good luck at Cardiff Ryan Giles.
Fwaw.

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13 Jul 2021 20:24:03
Sounds like a good move. Also see that Sanderson might go to Birmingham - hopefully after signing a new contract.
ps Phil started my new career and got paid for my first job!

13 Jul 2021 20:49:26
Agree on Sanderson Thefutureisoldgold.
Thats great to hear mate hope all goes well for you and long may you earn merit and enjoy all that you achieve.
Things are a lot better today from looking back 12/ 18 months ago.
Lol except our league position which can only be better this season coming.
FWAW.

13 Jul 2021 21:12:40
Think you are correct. Although we aren't out of the woods yet we are def on the right track.
Lets hope Wolves are as well. Interesting article in E and S by Bully talking about the need for experience partic at CM and CB.
Glad i'm not the only one beating that drum.
Re Job its great fun, outdoors and quite physical - i'd work for nothing but its great picking up a few quid as well.
Sadly the job is by its nature a zero hours contract and thus v sporadic. You only work when you are wanted, mainly eves and weekends, but it looks like there might be a bit this summer (weather permitting! )

13 Jul 2021 21:17:18
If Sanderson goes to Birmingham my work colleagues are Birmingham fans and one of them is a true running through his blood bluenose he will give me a regular accessment of Sanderson.
I will be watching the championship on Channel Quest Sunday mornings after MOTD.
For Giles and maybe Sanderson.
COYW.

13 Jul 2021 21:26:50
future, congrats on the job hope you enjoy it. Before all this C.V. thing arrived I worked a couple of days a week delivering cars all over the place. Great fun in retirement I thought, not for everyone but I miss it so much. Can't do it anymore anyway sadly! .
By the way the ad my son did streaking turned out to be for Danish tv. Quite funny. He's in a new series starting on ITV2 on Friday night called "Apocalypse Wow" sadly he wears a mask all the time, he's the referee. Mind you it's a reality thing at least it's deniable in the future if anyone asks. He got decent money and you need to start somewhere! I might manage the first one with luck!

13 Jul 2021 21:28:32
I agree with you we need experienced players.
I just feeling chilled at present as there is still 4 weeks or so till the season starts.
But after a couple weeks if we haven't signed a ready made quality first team signing I will start getting itchy.

13 Jul 2021 22:23:32
Ryan Giles to Cardiff is a fantastic move, for him, and the wolves. Cardiff is a team that will be fighting for promotion this year and will get loads of minutes since Macarthy pushed for this loan to happen. Sanderson to Birmingham would be a great move as well. Also rumors that our young gk Sarkic is currently training with Birmingham and could go out on loan there the next few days.

13 Jul 2021 22:23:32
Ryan Giles to Cardiff is a fantastic move, for him, and the wolves. Cardiff is a team that will be fighting for promotion this year and will get loads of minutes since Macarthy pushed for this loan to happen. Sanderson to Birmingham would be a great move as well. Also rumors that our young gk Sarkic is currently training with Birmingham and could go out on loan there the next few days.

14 Jul 2021 07:56:40
ken - will take a peak at "Apocalypse wow". If he is working he is doing well. Fingers crossed for him.

14 Jul 2021 15:48:19
future, don't blame me! He did say I would probably not enjoy it! The main thing is he had fun and got paid. He's also done his first film, small part obviously, gets murdered. Called "Jeepers Creepers III" out December I think. He also said I just won't want to see it either! As long as he gets paid and is happy I'm not concerned.

14 Jul 2021 16:15:01
Well Ken that's just made me more intrigued. It sounds as if he is starting to get some momentum. Work begets work.
Isn't the Jeepers Creepers horror film franchise quite well known?
Agreeed if they are working and happy you can't ask for more really.
At the monent my youngest graduated this year and is unemployed, my boy has 2 zero hours job and only contracted work for saturday and sundays and my eldest although fully employed is def not happy with much at all including job!

14 Jul 2021 17:54:41
future. I'd hate to be starting out now its very tough out there for them. Our eldest is a teacher also in London. He teaches sport which he loves. Whilst the youngest is getting work he still works nights as well which is tough so any film work he gets makes for very long hours. As a parent you just try to do your best, wherever they are you worry. At least we do anyway!

15 Jul 2021 18:49:59
Ken - As usual you are abolutely correct. When we, the wife and I, were starting out in the early 1980s we got jobs easily once we left education and those jobs, even though to start with mine was relatively poorly paid, allowed us to buy a place almost immediately. Now you fear that even a good job like a teacher will probably not enable you to buy a place - particularly in London - for several years, indeed if ever if you are doing it on your own.

15 Jul 2021 22:24:09
future when we first got married in the late 70's we got 100 percent mortgage on a bungalow in Warwick 11k scared the life put of us!

My eldest son teacher partner a nurse in London, zero chance of buying. Not like London needs them is it, not even any priority on council homes. The rent they pay scares the life out of me!

16 Jul 2021 13:19:58
Wow -11k. Suspect that is less than the annual rent of a flat in most parts of London today.
My eldest daughter, who has an MA in a relevant subject from a good uni, works for a charity in London and is paid peanuts. Her partner is a garden designer who is trying to make his way independently - so prob earns less than peanuts but works all hours god sends.
For them to buy a flat in south London you are lookng at circa £450-500k.
Never ever going to happen unless we, their respective parents, bankroll them but for me with 3 that's a big big ask!
Without being political their is clearly a link here: rent returns are v high relative to interest rates and with some tax breaks still in place for buy to let landlords - which aren't for actual home owners - it is not surprising that they can always outbid young owner occupiers and keep prices high.
Plus if you are paying an obscene rent how do you ever save to get on that first rung without help from parents.
Once you are away it is a virtuous circle hence Robbie Fowler allegedly has hundreds of properties - the surplus rent forming the deposit for the next few properties and ever onwards.
Bizare that the current government has not fully closed the tax loophole as it is clearly a solid and rationale reason why youngsters in London for example largely vote labour - you can't be a capitalist without capital ie a house!
oops that sounded like politics - sorry!

16 Jul 2021 14:16:19
future you are quite right. London needs young people! Those in power do little to help, part of the problem I think. Don't see any party offering any help. My eldest, the place they have is nothing special and they pay around 1700. You could get a palace for that anywhere else! Salaries don't really reflect housing costs tbh. They get paid a bit more but nowhere near enough. All they do is get by. Sad really.

16 Jul 2021 15:15:17
Ken - indeed however WFH might change all that. My daughter could live in Gloucester and buy a nice house for the price of a v small flat in London and if she can wfh and only go in once or twice a month why not?
Prices are crazy in London but as you say wages - outside of the city- are little different. Teacher's feeble London waiting being a good example and they can't WFH really.
Fortunately we are retired -well I am - and the wife works within walking distance of the house so life for us is easy- just the worry as you said for the kids.
I left home at 17 and frankly my parents were shot of me in all but name. Today I suspect we will be supporting/ looking out for our kids for most of our lives!
Goodness knows who is going to look after us though when we get old - I spend a fair bit of time and money looking after my aged mother these days. Not sure my kids will be in any position to return that favour!
oh well it could be a lot lot worse so no point in moaning!

16 Jul 2021 18:06:32
future I must admit I don't wish myself on my two! I saw my parents deal with parents and my brother and I with my Mum. Though I our case it was mainly my brother as he has been a Bachelor all his life. He owns and lives on a narrowboat now. Whilst I love visiting him I couldn't live on one. Not in winter anyway, not sure he will in a few years!

13 Jul 2021 00:41:47
Wolves plotting bid for Matthew Hoppe.

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13 Jul 2021 06:20:55
So far you've been on the money with *all of your rumours* #ITK (by the by, do you know a club insider? )

13 Jul 2021 07:37:06
This rumour had been doing the rounds since last week. But bravo for trying.

13 Jul 2021 09:06:28
Yes he does. News Now.

13 Jul 2021 10:38:41
Reading ITK RKM saves me the trouble of looking at News Now. He's like catch-up telly, to view what came out weeks ago.

13 Jul 2021 13:10:18
Been spot on so far can't see any reason to doubt you.

{Ed002's Note - Matthew Hoppe (S) American youngster has been advised to stay in Germany when Schalke likely sell him in the summer as it will be in his best interests. However, he has attracted interest from a number of sides including Bayern Munich and Spurs and the feeling is in the States that FSG might look to having him recruited for Liverpool as he is one of the up and coming American players. Certainly clubs like Union Berlin, Newcastle, Wolves and Crystal Palace have been scouting him and recent form has been good. Southampton had shown an earlier interest but seemed to be looking elsewhere now. I don't see that he would be a starter for any of the leading clubs and unless paying well over the odds a Work Permit may be an issue in England.}

13 Jul 2021 17:02:26
News now has links to were all sources come from. That's were I look everyday.

Whilst Hoppe would be a good addition, I think the wolves should spend that money on a striker a little more with experience. We have Silva (18), and we all know how much Banter he received for not putting great numbers, Hoppe will take some time to develop, that is just my opinion.

12 Jul 2021 13:39:28
Wolverhampton Wanderers will sign Bendeguz Bolla from MOL Fehervar in the summer transfer window, according to Fabrizio Romano.

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12 Jul 2021 14:03:27
He's normally spot on so could be something in this.

12 Jul 2021 15:07:01
Loaned to grasshoppers.

12 Jul 2021 16:38:39
Strange ITK RM J didn't give us this scoop! #ITK.

12 Jul 2021 17:27:07
Probably because this one wasn't on NewsNow Debbie.

12 Jul 2021 18:01:46
Grasshoppers is owned by Fosun owners wife now, hence the connection used to belong to Fosun.

12 Jul 2021 20:49:32
Yellowstone

Only positive thing about that is if Grasshoppers develops a nice gem, he's likely headed to the black country :D.

12 Jul 2021 07:07:50
NEVES TO ARSENAL HOTTING UP.

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12 Jul 2021 07:23:28
You claimed it was Man Utd a few weeks ago. Just admit it, you simply re-post what the clickbait sites post.

12 Jul 2021 10:43:59
Can’t see any of the first teamers going anywhere before the speak to lage first, Portugal players not back till next Monday at least.

12 Jul 2021 11:43:31
ITK RM J is bang on *yet again* #ITK

Who are your sources?

12 Jul 2021 13:22:52
ITK RM on the ball again with his breaking exclusive news.

12 Jul 2021 13:41:06
RAUL TO ASDA wife needs some shopping. You heard it here first!

12 Jul 2021 14:05:31
Another swing and a miss by ITK RM J.

12 Jul 2021 14:10:35
HP and Worcestershire.

11 Jul 2021 14:23:27
Wolves are looking to swap Rafa Mir for Guedes of Valencia.

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11 Jul 2021 15:10:32
Would honestly prefer Kag-in Lee in a trade, but Guedes would be a good option as well.

11 Jul 2021 15:51:25
ITK RM J, got to admit, you've been bang on the money so far. Can't wait for Cakir, Diego Costa or Ferro to show us what they can do!

11 Jul 2021 16:47:58
Nice one Jas! Should be IDK tbh.

11 Jul 2021 17:16:11
ITK RM strikes again with one of his correct rumours, so far he's not been wrong.

11 Jul 2021 18:20:38
ITK RM has been 100% bang on thus far #ITK.

12 Jul 2021 13:40:17
I'm going to follow his lead now then - cut 7 paste coming up

Wolverhampton Wanderers will sign Bendeguz Bolla from MOL Fehervar in the summer transfer window, according to Fabrizio Romano.

12 Jul 2021 16:01:22
Love it Nuno. ES.

10 Jul 2021 08:07:57
Looks like Kurt Zouma has turned down an approach from Wolves. The good news is Lage is addressing the problems with defence.

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10 Jul 2021 09:51:00
Shame as he is a good defender and a real goal threat at set pieces. Loads of premier league experience and only 26. If others are only looking at loans we might be able to get a change of heart by looking at a permanent deal. Showing faith in a player can make that all important difference.
May well be one of these deals that goes right to the wire. Not ideal but would rather Zouma than Tarkowski, who I thought showed some vulnerabilities in his game last year. Wear and tear taking its toll!

10 Jul 2021 11:23:21
For sure Wolfthistle.
I'd go for dunk and Zouma all day long. i'd also monitor Laporte at Man City. He had a great euros and Man city want to offload according to reports.
I don't rate Tarkowski. I think he has had good seasons but they have been near the bottom half for a few years now.
Id also keep an eye on Ben White. If its 50m for one of the most outstanding cb in english football he may be worth a massive punt. Not sure if Arsenal are serious. As I think we might find they just offer the lowest fee and then back out when its not accepted.

10 Jul 2021 13:17:42
Zouma? His loss not ours. We only want players who want to be at Wolves. End of conversation we can do better!

10 Jul 2021 13:30:59
If we were after Zouma, that shows sense and ambition. If he doesn't want to come its probably because he wants to stay in London. Any London team could do with him. He will have options.

{Ed002's Note - That is not the reason he is not interested in Wolves.}

10 Jul 2021 13:51:32
Intriguing Ed. Do tell.

{Ed002's Note - He has better options.}

10 Jul 2021 14:52:04
Deep whilst you should note Ed 002 is not a Wolves fan and therefore may not rate Wolves as a destination as highly a you do it is also fair to say that after last year we aren't as attractive as we were. A year ago we were the next cab off the rank euro 1/ 4s fa cup semis and 2 7ths but sadly not only did we move sharply backwards last year others WH, Leeds, Everton and even Villa moved sharply forward.
Add our v low wage structure and let's be honest the somewhat limited charms of living in Wolverhampton cf London, the south coast or indeed many other places not in England and it is not surprising that he may have better options.
This does present us with a serious issue. I know many won't want to hear it and will claim there are still weeks to go in the transfer window and we don't have to stress but the cold reality is that we do need to sign several "oven ready players" and getting the first one in is the hardest. Doing it early sends out a marker of our ambition and status as an "established" premier league team that a player can safely and happily join. It will therefore obviously make it far easier to attract the others.
Our problem is that the squad was not good enough last year - without the v impressive and unlikely to be repeated 17 points from the first 10 games before Jimenez was injured, [we have no real idea if he will ever return to the level he was physically or mentally], we would have been in serious difficulties.
Since then the squad has got markedly weaker - Otto re injured, Neto injured, Moutinho and Patricio one year further beyond their prime, Boly and Saiss AFN bound to name but some of our issues.
So signing a few unproven kids, which is all we have done so far this summer, is not going to persuade many that we have solved all of our problems and it is safe to sign for Wolves.
Ironically if we can just get a couple of genuine solid pros in we will be fine as there is still the skeleton of a strong squad there particulalry once/ if Jimenez, Otto and Neto return but at the moment this board seems to prefer to sell the remaining handful of stars we have Neves, Traore, Podence etc.
Just don't get it?

10 Jul 2021 15:40:00
Are you classing Trincao as an unproven kid?

10 Jul 2021 16:45:58
Jas M

I think what he meant by unproven kids is they aren't signings that will attract a experienced ready player, but we all know silva, trincao, vitinha, all are very talented.

The future
Yes I agree, we did have a lot of problems last season with injuries which made us finish past the mid table, and main reason players aren't tempted to join Wolves like Zouma is because this team has no UCL or UEL this year. Still time to get more signings on the team. I think we will be okay with another CB/ CM/ ST.

10 Jul 2021 16:50:12
Yes I am.
He has played a couple of half seasons at Braga and then was a squad player at Barcelona - he made 28 appearances in La Liga but his minutes played are equivalent to handful of full matches.
He is a v young player who has had injuries and is joining a totally different league - much more physical and faster whilst playing for a very different side - not all conquering favourites - but, let's be honest, a small unfavoured mid table or lower side.
He won't be getting the protection from the refs that he got in Barcelona or the benefits of having world class players all around him creating space and opportunities.
It is completely unfair to burden him with any sort of expectations as many did with Silva.
I am hopeful he will be great and will contribute over the year but it is madness to place that sort of pressure on him or to rely on him. He may stand up but he may fail - we don't know as he hasn't done it before here or in reality anywhere on a consistent basis. He may have potential and look great in highlight clips, (6 caps for Portugal are also a massive positive), but he is not an experienced and proven Prem league player.
The you can't win anything with kids mantra is not wrong just because 4 or 5 super stars of the UK game (Beckham, Neville, Giggs and Scholes) playing with some all time great like Schmiechel, Cantona, Keane and Irwin were so succesful.
If we had a v strong side he is potentially the cream on the cake but at the moment we don't need cream we need cake.
Absolutely nothing wrong with taking him on a sensibly structured loan deal but its not the final piece in our jigsaw or frankly even a major one. We need to be signing the oven ready players to ensure their is a base from which our young players can develop without crippling pressure - look what happended to Silva. Even Jose - who didn't pull up trees - helped deflect pressure from Silva and he looked much better in those later games!

10 Jul 2021 17:20:55
So what signing are fans looking for?
If we had a squad like this at the end of the summer I would say it is a step in thw right direction.
Sa
Dunk/ Tarkowski Coady Zouma/ another
Semedo Palinha Diawara Marcal
Podence
Trincao Raul
Bench
Ruddy
Boly
Vinicius
Silva
Donk
Ait nouri

To return Neto and Jonny.

10 Jul 2021 17:59:03
I can see everyone's point of view but the first thing we need to sort is the spine of the team. That's what got us up to 7th place, with that the rest will come together. Two or three first team regulars to follow who I assume will be Sa if Patricio goes and it will fall into place. I'm my opinion obviously.

10 Jul 2021 18:08:08
Madman - can I keep Neves and Traore instead of Diawara and Trincao/ Podence in first 11.
Strongly suspect though that the 2 news cbs will be v expensive as will Palinha so money might dictate that you have to sell them to fund the acquisitions. (Assume you have sold Saiss, Moutinho and Patricio as well as the aforementioned 2 plus some fringe players like Cutrone, Mir and Vinagre)
Would sacrifice Vinicius and Diawara if that helped keep Adama and Reuben.
Your team will be fine though and won't go down but might be a bit light on goals unless Trincao really is as good as his hype and Jimenez comes back flying.

10 Jul 2021 18:53:22
Yeah the future is old gold sell the players mentioned.
Can see us changing the dynamic of our midfield. Out of all the players we may lose I'd keep Neves. Maybe deals can still be done for a Sissoko or Kessie?
Traore is to hot and cold and not consistent enough. His deliveries can be poor. Unless he wants to stay as an impact sub.
He probably got us 10 points and lost us 10 points last season.
Id also argue we probably still need another lwb. Someone like Telles on loan would be good.
And an attacking midfielder like Goncalves or Olmo who we've had or been linked to under Nuno. Maybe Coutinho? 😉
I don't trust Podence consistently either. And see him as a squad player.

10 Jul 2021 19:36:24
Dont need to tell you my views on Traore.
If Marcal is fit he is solid defensively but seemingly gives you little going forwards so unless we can pick up a free - like Van Anholt - or as you say a loan - like Telles - I wouldn't prioritise LB over a better CM/ AM - maybe your Coutinho (fear that might be a break too far)!

10 Jul 2021 20:31:04
Madman,

Telles would be a good option loan, but other players also worthy to look at are Dembele (Barca), and Perisic (Inter) . Both clubs are in some financial situations so I wouldn't see inquiring about a loan. Coutinho, last I heard about rumours is Barcelona is negotiating him at 21m taking a huge loss in profit.

I don't know what his demands on weekly wages would be, but worth a try in asking. And last I like your option of Goncalves at attackinf mf, but another option I really like is Kang-in Lee from Valencia. Such a phenomenal player and he's declined a contract extension that's up in 2022 so maybe cash and players like mir/ cutrone their way would open a nice trade?

10 Jul 2021 21:41:50
I mentioned Kang-in a few weeks ago, I think we should get him as a straight swap with Mir. He was valued then at 7-10m so should be possible. He has what we are looking for and is a good age.

11 Jul 2021 04:02:58
Ken68

Missed your post, but it’s a nice suggestion. I think his value might be around 20m now that a couple teams are interested but no serious bids have been launched. I would give up Mir and possibly cash if it were to bring Kang-in to the molineux.

11 Jul 2021 09:26:25
Siisenor

I agree I like all thw players mention. But as I've said before it maybe loans before we sign.

I do think the club really has to sell a project to some experienced players. The prohect shoukd be winning a domestic troohy and getting european football.

The obstacle around Coutinho is his salary and whether it is so much more than other players at the club. that's not forgettingn if everything went to plan with Coutinho and Raul wolves really would be looking up the table. Especially if some of the big teams falter.

11 Jul 2021 10:23:11
Madman - From the various websites I have seen his salary ranges from a modest (? ) £165k pa upwards to something crazy like £20m a year. That is 4 times what Moutinho and Patricio, who may be gone anyway earn - leaving Silva and Semedo as top earners at circa £4.5m pa.
Assuming the worst and he earns just over £400k a week a deal where we pay Barcelona £21m and him say £21m up front for a 3 year contract might mean he (if he accepts his salary has to plummet - which surely it must as no one will pay him £400k a week now will they? ) might be willing to play for similar money ie £5m a year. This means that over a 3 year contract he earns £15m + £21m = £36m or £12m pa, but as he has 2 years left on his Barcelona contract not sure he would as seemingly he makes £40m just by sitting still over next two years?
However if the worst case scenario is wrong and we take a midddle case this might well work
But can Wolves stump up just over £40m for a fee.
It would be a massive statement and if we just kept the rest of the side together and Jimenez comes back flying adding Coutinho alone may well mean we would be challenging to be a top 4 side. Ironically thise would mean that the money would rapidly flow back in.
If ony we hadn't wasted £70m on 2 over priced players last year.
Neves and Traore are too important to lose and Saiss, Patricio, Moutinho and the fringe playrs don't move the dial but perhaps we could sell Semedo - who isn't bad - for mid to high £20s and replace him with a cheap option even Hoever looked ok?
Really like the idea but strongly suspect he will, as Ed 002 will undoubtedly point out, sadly have much better options.

11 Jul 2021 10:43:58
Love all this banter about what the club should do and who they should buy and at what price.

I've just finished watching the Spurs documentary and in it, Daniel Levy who a lot of Spurs fans don't like gives an insight on how the transfer market works. Also the Sunderland doc is good as it looks at a club at a different end of the spectrum.

Well worth a watch.

11 Jul 2021 11:14:55
I understand what your saying the future is old gold. However I doubt the club want to keep all the team as it was last season anyway. a lot of players let us down.
For example if they keep Moutinho, they then have 3 players that can play that position (with Neves and Vitinha as it seems that will be finalised) that have cost the club 40m. Does Bruno want to play with a midfielder like those three?
I can see a lot of change in midfield. It was to predictable last season. No driving runs from midfield and fire from the midfielders. We missed Jonny and Jota on the fire front.
I don't think the club would be able to offload Semedo as he has a long contract. Plus its almost admitting we got it wrong trying to play possession based football.
Although we finished 12th with raul we would have finished higher. So don't look at Semedo and Silva as bad deals. They were deals that could be done during a C.V. Most top clubs held onto top players last season. Even last summer I didn't expect Silva, Vitinha, Hoever or Ait Nouri to play many games. I think they did okay for first season in the circumstances I didn't expect Silva to play 20 games let alone score 20 goals.
I also can't see bruno playing silva and Raul as they are similar. Silva is a young inexperienced raul. So that leaves the strike force to be sorted out.

Jas- your damn right mate. There so many different factors that turn players heads. From the missus knows her favourite shop isn't in the city. To the dog has no where to play. 😂 I just hope the club are selling a project that is achievable within 2 years. A trophy would entice players in more than europe maybe? Winning the prem and fa cup over the last 6 years has definitely helped Leicester attract young talent from across the world.

11 Jul 2021 12:53:58
Madman - I had assumed that Moutinho had gone and we didn't sign Vitnha. We obviously won't sign Coutinho ( I really don't think we have much if any chance of doing so even if we wanted to! ) and Vitnha.
Puts the putative cost of Vitnha and for that matter the actual cost of Silva into context though doesn't it. Silva doesn't cost that much less than the scenario above and whilst I don't know what wages we might offer Vitnha the suggested £20m fee is insane!
Agree we won't sell Semedo (as he is one of our better players and pefectly competent in his role) but he is probably the only major player we can afford to sell. I accept his contract, where he is overpaid on a multi year deal, will limit how much you'd get anyway.
Of course if Jimenez had remained fit we would have come much higher up but not sure your next statement follows though?
Indeed your next 2 paras pretty much confirm that the Silva deal at least was v v bad. You don't pay £35m and top top wages for a player you don't expect to contribute for 2 years if you are Wolves. That is well over 25% of our latest annual turnover. Look up what City, United, Chelsea etc etc would have to pay to represent 25% of their latest reported annual turnover (its well over £100m) and see if that sort of player would be expected to contribute?

11 Jul 2021 14:24:26
Your right as a fan it looks odd thefutureisoldgold. But remember no club has really took on the top 6 like Wolves have planned to under Fosun.

Fans need to differentiate between investing in players for the future and players ready for next season.

The first team squad of last season under performed regardless of injuries. Our forwards included Neto, Podence, Traore and Jose.
Vetween them they scored 10 goals. that's rubbish for Portugese and Spanish internationals.
Same goes for midfield not enough goals. Neves was the top scorer.

I'd class Trincao as experienced he has more games under his belt than Neto did when he arrived.

The non purchase of Vitinha and the possible sale of Neves and Moutinho would show Bruno wants a very different midfield. Although I would keep Neves.

There is no comparison between the purchase of Vitinha and Silva and a loan for Coutinho. Also throw in the mix Coutinho may have thought he had a better chance under Koeman last summer or did he go on loan to Bayern again. Emotions feelings and attitudes towards options move with times.

08 Jul 2021 15:32:03
Coutinho to wolves use it as u will.

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08 Jul 2021 17:26:58
Hahahahaha #ITK.

08 Jul 2021 18:12:08
Way to Waitrose for us at the moment! Not being silly but wages etc we are at Lidl and Asda for this year I think. Though I hope he's not going to stump up 20m Euros on Vithinha. If they think he's good enough a price to take into account C.V. etc needs to be negotiated!

08 Jul 2021 20:59:53
Doesn't seem likely, not even if he comes on loan. Just his weekly wages will be quite alot, even Shi had a hard time giving Rui 100,000k weekly.

08 Jul 2021 21:40:53
It was Cutrone not Coutinho.

09 Jul 2021 09:40:03
Morning everyone just reading that liverpool are willing to offer upto 25m for traore that's hilarious🤣 try 40+m and by the way you still haven't settled Jota's payment to us
Pay up🧡🖤🐺🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿.

09 Jul 2021 09:47:08
What made me chuckle was the arrogance of some Liverpool blogger on Monday. He wrote words to the effect of "Wolves have done well to secure a player of Trincao's quality. If he does well, Liverpool should agree a transfer fee with Barcelona to buy him at the end 8f the season using the outstanding money owed for Coutinho as payment".

{Ed001's Note - that is stupidity not arrogance. Barcelona do not owe Liverpool anything for Coutinho, Liverpool sold the debt off a long time ago to get quick cash.}

09 Jul 2021 11:54:50
In that case then if Williams from Liverpool is a target for us we can deduct some of what they owe us for Jota?

09 Jul 2021 12:01:21
Nothing in it same as the Felix one nothing in it, just because they're following Wolves instagram doesn't mean we're signing them.

09 Jul 2021 13:24:31
I've started following Real Madrid on the 'Gram - looks like I'm signing for them! who would've thought a former magician's assistant/ wife would be turning out for RM at sixty-two years young?
#Believe and anything can happen.

09 Jul 2021 14:07:14
Cant see Coutinho being as expensive as he was in 2018.
Maybe a loan fee and wage struture in our favour would be a way of getting an excellent experienced talent and helping Barcelona with there financial woes.
When you think about it a lot of the 'big' clubs will be struggling to balance the books. Leaves City, Wolves and Chelsea being able to spend money this summer. As they have either had a lot of success league and champions league last season. Or balanced the books in Wolves case.
Only Man U have spent big so far, but I reckon that was agreed last summer.
Villa over paid for there new creative player. 😁.

09 Jul 2021 14:41:44
Debbie at least you could dance past a lot of La Liga defenders!

09 Jul 2021 15:19:42
Well Debbie if you sign we can rename it Real McGee.

09 Jul 2021 22:25:55
Maybe they followed the wolves because trinco signed or they like our new boss either way its all good.

08 Jul 2021 13:32:11
Vitinha joining the wolves after all? Rumors are wolves are going through with the bid of €20m (£17.1m)

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08 Jul 2021 15:25:00
3rd time i've seen this today so think it might have legs.

08 Jul 2021 15:35:07
No legs at all unless he's playing back up to coutinho (Barca) just saying 🤷‍♂️.

08 Jul 2021 17:47:35
To Rated RKO
Got it from a Portuguese news outlet, but hasn't been reported on wolves side as of yet.

To E
Is the coutinho move official?

08 Jul 2021 17:58:08
Only seen one mention it so far on twitter Siisenor mate and they've only started the rumour based on Coutinho following Wolves on insta, same with Felix he followed Wolves so some are putting 2+2 together and coming up with 5.
Nothing has been said by Molinuex news the rss feed I have set up.

08 Jul 2021 21:09:35
Rated RKO

It's been a crazy day with those rumours mate, cout and felix following wolves on insta is quite odd, but it's doable to at least bring them out on loan if wolves move Traore and Neves, giving us the funds. I am excited for this year though!

09 Jul 2021 10:09:48
Coutinho would be an amazing signing, even though he has had a disappointing time since leaving Livwerpool he is till a top notch AM for which we have areal need. He is also available for a fee of only £25m apparently. However his wages make it impossible - even if he took a massive pay cut - he would still earn far far more than anyone else particularly if our two current top earners Moutinho and Patricio both leave as is rumoured.
Lovely idea but I'm not holding my breath.

09 Jul 2021 13:44:31
future, glad you're going to be OK holding your breath for that one would be fatal!
Ideas a couple of weeks a go that Shi had requested the deal for Vithinha to be carried over until July 20th. Can only assume that can only be for financial reasons. Probably someone will be sold by then and we have money available. As we have in reality only moved very much equal amounts in and out that would seem logical! We shall see! If we sell our not required players, Mir, Cutrone we may have a war chest available, albeit not very big, unless he's holding back!

09 Jul 2021 15:03:17
Ken - i'd much rather spend any war chest on things we actually need now like a dominant RCB and/ or a top notch CM than invest it in a kid who may or may not ever contribute. Not sure we afford to be so casual about matters planning for some glorious future whilst ignoring the pressing needs of the present. We got away with it last year becauase Nuno wa brilliant, Traore put the team on his v large shoulders over the last couple of months and there were 3 awful teams in the league.
Dare we do that again - especially with Neto and Otto out and Qs surely remaining over Jimenez not forgetting AFN means we lose Boly and Saiss and father time won't have stopped pinching Moutinho and Patricio?
Surely we realise that you have to ensure your back is protected before venturing out prospecting?
I understand some of the youngsters on here getting carried way with emotions but the cold hearted pros that run football clubs (maybe excluding ours) don't and will be v happy to exploit our naivety!

09 Jul 2021 16:28:35
future you are spot on with everything you say. We need experience on the pitch now! The ones coming through can sit on the bench and learn and be coached by someone I hope is good! I thought at the end of last season Gibbs-White looked to be improving so maybe in time he become a first team regular. He's not there yet but he looks like he going in the right direction. Let's hope so anyway!

09 Jul 2021 17:27:33
I agree with you Future
Last season was awful finishing 4 spots shy of regelation zone, luckily for us, the bottom 3 were worst. We already brought in a couple youngsters in last season, and with the addition of Trincao, maybe its time to add some experienced players on the team. We definitely need a RCB and CM for sure, would be nice to bring on 1 more forward to back Raul/ Silva.

07 Jul 2021 17:05:01
Now rumoured that Nuno may want to take Traore to Spurs. My reaction is please do at the right price, he's over rated as seen by Spain at the Euros, difficult as seen by contract talks and the money, providing it's enough could be better used for the team.

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07 Jul 2021 17:21:00
Would hate for Traore to leave the club, but I think the wolves will be fine with the addition of Trincao. I hope that money could be used to bolster the center midfield and bring in another CB or two.

07 Jul 2021 18:12:28
Funny how Nuno is being linked with all the Wolves players who ended up costing him his job last season. Today its Traore, yesterday it was Jimenez and last week it was Neves and Moutinho.

It's just the papers making stuff up.

08 Jul 2021 09:34:32
Jas M pretty much summed it up.

08 Jul 2021 09:41:17
99% true Jas. Trouble is the 1% of rumours that turn out to be accurate. For example, Jota to Liverpool, Doc to Spurs, Nuno to Spurs (earlier this year) .

08 Jul 2021 11:13:44
Who out of current squad would you sell?
Personally i'd sell.
Traore think he'd struggle in a 442 in prem. Imbalances the team as he doesn't track back. I do get that he can be unplayable but was it 4 goals and 4 assists last season? isn't consistent enough for what wolves want which is european football. Plus likely to get 40m for him.
Boly-not the same player since C.V. struck not sure why.10-15m
Moutinho- if he doesn't want player coach role then I thibk we should move on for both joao and the club.5m
Mir-17m
Cutrone-10-15m
Vinagre-13m
Question marks over
Rui, Neves, Donk, Saiss
Cant see
Neto or Coady being sold.

08 Jul 2021 11:24:23
@ Madman Mir-17m, Cutrone-10-15m, Vinagre-13m not sure about the costs you've suggested, but I'd agree that they're all but sold.

Really need to look at another CB as Boly will likely be gone for the AF-Con and as suggested the 'Rona may have affected him in terms of health.

I can see Dendonker being kept as Bruno likes to play with DMFs which is his natural position. Neto is injured until October so he isn't going anywhere this season.

I really don't envisage Traore staying, if the price is right sell him, he was found this last season. Plus he doesn't seem keen on signing a new contract.

08 Jul 2021 11:29:37
Blimey, Madman, you don't half put inflated prices on our cast offs. If only! I think it was pretty obvious that Boly didn't fully recover from C.V. so hopefully he'll be back to his commanding self next season. Apart from Neto who may not return this year, Adama is our only fit player who can make a difference by running with the ball to effect. I wouldn't want to lose that option personally.

08 Jul 2021 12:58:35
Blimey Old Wulf, you've forgotten Trincao after only 4 days and Podence too.

08 Jul 2021 14:01:38
Tell you what, if we well all those players mentioned above, and for the money quoted, we will be the richest club in the world in five-a-side football. Hang onto Kilman, he's represented England at Futsal football. He's used to the 1-3-1 format. Bruno may prefer 1-2-2 though!

08 Jul 2021 14:17:20
Interesting lads.
To be honest i'd say those fees due to age and the markets you would be selling to.
Mir had a good season in la liga ina struggling side.17m for a 23 year old seem a fair.
Cutrone aged 23 at 10m seems fair as I think he would do a job at a Torino or similar side in Serie A.
Traore 40m would be fair. He hasn't signed a new contract and I think its time to move on.
I had actually forgotten about Podence. I'll put it out there i'd sell him. He was a poor mans jota. And he hasn't hit the same dizzying heights.
We really do need to look at the balance of the squad and having a few options on our bench. Which we lacked last season.

08 Jul 2021 15:52:35
I hadn't Jas. Just that Podence is too injury prone and we've yet to see Trincao in the flesh. Let's hope that he can produce the goods but I reckon he'll need a fair amount of time to bed in.

09 Jul 2021 10:31:40
Siiisenor - how much are we selling Traore for if we can buy a CM and 2CBs oven ready to play in the Prem?
However I obviously agree we should hang on to Traore - our best player by far and at the moment only major attacking threat- at least until we discover if the new players cut it or, like seasons crop, fail to measure up or the injured ones can come back as they were pre injury.
However I agree with you that we need to buy at least 2 or 3 oven ready players as the squad remains v thin and signing 2 new kids plus RAN may well ( let's hope not but we don't know) not move the dial.
Odd that on here criticising certain players - Traore, Podence, Saiss etc etc is abolutely fair game - but others, who haven't delivered, as they have over the years or haven't even kicked a ball yet are viewed as messianic figures and any hint of criticism or scepticism of them or Jeff Shi is met with opprobrium.
I find it strange that our premier league status is taken so casually by so many of you and balance/ conservatism is so poorly received.

09 Jul 2021 12:07:58
I agree Future is old gold.
The issue we face though is we took a gamble on Boly, Saiss, Raul to name a few that were senior players and they all came off.
The 'experienced heads' some fans especially older fans by an large want cost far to much and we have struggled during our success to convince them to sign (whether that's Nuno or what we offered contractually the jury is out) . We also struggle with our location as shown in the reports of the Zinchenko and Franck Kessie negotiations as both players were notsold on Wolverhampton.
If you look at Citys success they have brought players aged between 18-26 normally english players younger to avoid the price increase such as Stones and they have kept tabs on the likes of Laporte and Ruben Dias to purchase as cheap as possible. To think laporte cost less than Raul. And Dias cost nearly 30m less than Maguire.

09 Jul 2021 15:10:08
As usual Madman despite your name you write a v sensible and good post ( as was the one above re Coutinho) .
Wolverhampton is no Vienna and yes our wages are among the lowest in the Prem so its not easy.
But for the money spent last year I showed in an earlier post what we could have got, (others did), and many of them were experienced pros. But agreed it is not easy as everyone wants what we obviously want hence Burnley quoting £40m+ for Tarkowski
ps everyone put that value into mind when valuing Traore.

05 Jul 2021 14:18:06
According to Molinuex news Patricio will be departing to Roma this week.
I think we all kinda knew this though tbh I recall a few saying it'd happen once Portugal were out of the Euros.

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05 Jul 2021 15:33:11
Goodbye and best of luck Rui Patricio. Did we (I know I didn't) ever think we'd be getting players of his caliber?

05 Jul 2021 16:44:14
Yes good luck Rui all the very best for the future. In answer to Debbie that's a big NO I certainty never expected any international capped players arriving.

05 Jul 2021 17:08:44
My answer the same never in my wildest dreams.
This new kid from Barcelona really looking forward to seeing him play.

Thanks Rui good luck at Roma assuming there mo last minute hitch.

FWAW.

05 Jul 2021 17:35:02
Same answe Debs never in my wildest dreams.

06 Jul 2021 11:33:08
I don't think he'll go.
Most top players do this when they want a higher salary and better contract.
Can see him staying on £130,000 a week. I'd pay it for two years extra on his current deal. So we'd get Rui for another 3 years.

06 Jul 2021 11:45:45
With Patricio going to Roma and a player being signed from Barcelona, it's all routine business at Wolves! It just goes to remind us of how Fosun have catapulted us into the big time in five seasons, from mid-table championship mediocrity.

07 Jul 2021 12:15:05
Everyone as a shelf life tho, Patricio was a dream signing but perhaps age creeps up, I think we'd all agree some aspects were slowing down. I'll never forget his performance in the Asian Cup against man c. Cut head played on and then the penalty saves. Whoever takes the gloves will have a big job on their hands.

07 Jul 2021 14:42:34
It's odd that there's rumours. But nothing really from any really reputable sources.
I know Fab is seen as a glowing source. But it seems odd that Mourinho hasn't said he is after a keeper. Or nothing really tangible about a Wolves replacement.
It seems like he was looked at by Roma and Jose. But the fact nothings come out about Sa is fishy. And the British press have concluded we will want Ramsdale and Johnstone seems like they are trying to create a story from nothing or initial enquiries whether that was from Roma to Wolves or whether it was from Wolves to the clubs of Sa, Ramsdale or Johnstone.
However getting rid of Rui and Joao makes sense. Get rid of the highest salaries means we can meet FFP and have a bigger squad. Is that what the club meant by creative aswell as different deals for Ait Nouri, Vitinha etc etc.

07 Jul 2021 17:17:07
Wishing the best of luck to Rui in Roma. With that being said, I would love for the wolves to go after a goalie from the relegated teams being Ramsdale from Sheffield, or Johnson from WBA. Both have PL experience and don't run the risk of going after someone outside the league and having them adapt.

 


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