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06 Jan 2022 18:22:28
This Doherty/Traore thing seems to be gathering momentum. Can`t see the sense in it. Do we really need the Doc back? Is Semedo on his way just as he is establishing himself as a very good signing?

wombourneron

1.) 06 Jan 2022 19:47:10
No way should Docherty come back, he wanted to go and failed miserably his time has gone.


2.) 06 Jan 2022 21:02:25
Hope the powers that be agree with you Mike!


3.) 07 Jan 2022 00:24:36
Athletico supposedly want Semedo to replace Trippier so that may be why we're looking at Doherty (or journos think we are looking at Doherty)


4.) 07 Jan 2022 10:53:29
Putting Doherty to one side for a moment, would Semedo leaving be a good move and at what price? Is Hoever ready to step up? If the answer to these questions is yes and we can get the majority of the transfer fee back I might be inclined to go with it. As other posters have said why sign young players and not give them a chance. The downside however is do we have sufficient injury cover?


5.) 07 Jan 2022 12:22:09
Arddunby - the majority of the fee?
Given he has improved significantly defensively and is no worse offensively than when he first played for us either you believe we hugely over paid for him or you are happy for the club to be selling him cheap?
Neither says that you think management have/are going to cover (ed) themselves in glory.
Surely as a player who is clealry better than he was when he arrived 2 seasons ago his fee, if we were selling, should have gone up not down?


6.) 07 Jan 2022 13:06:38
Future, I suspect fees will be down across the market for the next few windows, did we overpay? that's a matter of opinion, maybe the market will decide that.


7.) 07 Jan 2022 13:40:32
Arddunby -V sorry. I was merely stirring. I actually am on record as saying we over paid for him and although he has improved (markedly) I agree we still wouldn't get our money back - that is how much we over paid!
All that being said I still wouldn't sell him as our recent record in the transfer market, (Sa and maybe Marcal excluded), indicates we would almost certainly merely double down on the error and end up buying a far worse player for not much less than we sold Seemdo for.
Not a Jeff fan!
Not as certain as you however that fees at the top level (where Wolves play!) will be down, although of course covid must have had some impact. Not as much as people think though as the vast majority of the money in the top end of the game comes via TV and commercial activities, (not impacted greatly by Covid) not gate money (which of course was decimated for a period by the virus). I accept this isn't true outside the top end of the game particulalrly if you are a lower league team but they don't exactly drive the transfer market.
If prices are down though then we def should be buyers not sellers - see Warren Buffet's first rule of investment!


8.) 07 Jan 2022 14:13:27
So the latest rumour is that Atletico are readying a £50m bid for Semedo. Would you sell him for that price and buy Doherty back?


9.) 07 Jan 2022 15:07:31
Future. I think we overpaid, and we were buying from a club with serious financial issues also, but I wouldn't like to try to put a valuation on the player, its always easier said online than a real negotiation. Yes we should be buying if prices are down, and you sure have a point about spending money wisely. Not much point if you waste it, better to find an alternative investment. Regards the fees last window I think City overpaid for Grealish and that is probably the current going rate. I also have doubts Spurs will get much more than that for Kane if he leaves.
Judging by the transfer news it seems clubs are interested in loans and swap deals more than usual at the moment.


10.) 07 Jan 2022 15:40:13
Jas v good q!
Not sure though that i'd link the two
As I have stated elsewhere on here I'd only take Doherty back on a free/loan and then only for modest wages - i.e. he would have to take a big pay cut or Spurs pay a chunk of them for the rest of his contract.
Although I loved him - unlike many - he is two years on from his glory days and it is a big ask to expect him to come back.
However if the risk was low enough i.e. low wages and no fee then maybe you take a gamble that he, (with Lage's help/coaching), can return to his former self?
Actually I think both issues - gambling on a Doherty return and/or selling Semedo may be linked to Otto's situation.
If he is fit and we are comfortable he will come back to his best, (best defender of all the FBs/WBs discussed here and ok going forward - not as good as Doherty was or Semedo and RAN hint, (but sadly, for various reasons dicussed regularly on here previously, rarely deliver) they might be), then he could be first choice at RWB. Given we have Hoever as cover and have RAN/Marcal on the left we would be better than adequately covered for FBs, WBs.
If money is tight, in reality only Jeff knows the answer to that, then £50m is an awful lot to turn down when we have pressing needs elsewhere that £50m would really help fill. Originally I thought our biggest needs were an ACM and a back up CB sadly now however I believe a new CF to cover/replace/help Jimenez (who it seems needs longer to get back than we had intially hoped) is a further and possibly even more pressing priority. {Of course the longer than expected return time may as discussed on here only recently with respect to Netto may apply to Otto as well!}
Further point worth noting that a Semedo sale would reduce our wage bill markedly - he is a top earner - and give us a huge uplift in our FFP situation as a £50m sale would represent a large profit on his ammortised value!
Net net if we could get £50m then yes I think I would sell and if we could get Doherty on my terms then again i'd love to take the gamble - sadly though I don't see either happening.
What would you do Jas?
Anyone else?


11.) 07 Jan 2022 16:47:38
At £50mil I would sell Semedo but want Doc on a free. Bruno might get Doc back to his best for a couple of years. There's no doubt that Bruno has improved Coady, for example, so there would be hope for Doc.


12.) 07 Jan 2022 16:58:45
I am if on totally honest not overly worried about Jimenez. His work rate is as good and he's not exactly been overwhelmed by a massive number of chances either taken or missed tbh.

Personally I would give him more time. I know it was a massive injury but was a top quality striker and I still think he can get back to top form. My opinion and hope!


13.) 10 Jan 2022 16:40:51
Good debate gents (as always). For me I would go with option c, I mean why does selling Semedo have to equal Docs return?! Personally I'd sell Semedo for £50m on the simple basis we'd never get such an offer for him again (nb in fact I suspect the whole things academic as if honest I can't see anyone offering that for him:)! Whatever us fans might think the whole reason we did what we did with Nelson and Docs was to improve our quality at RB so I'd stick to that programme. Take Athelticos hand off at £50m then take £20-30m and offer it for another quality young RB (Lamptey or Jayden Bogle spring to mind) ?


 

 

24 Nov 2021 18:54:28
According to sky Traore now available for £20 mil. Someone is having a laugh!

wombourneron

1.) 24 Nov 2021 20:33:08
That is way too low wombourneron, I think that came from the belief that Wolves have to raise cash to buy Hwang in January. Which imo is BS as why would they start that conversation if they couldn't afford him. However, if a Traore transfer facilitates moves for the new players Wolves need/want and can get in January, I'm sure they will sell him.


2.) 24 Nov 2021 20:50:21
Agreed as long as the price is right.


3.) 25 Nov 2021 07:29:58
Not a chance we get over 30 for Traore in current form/playtime with the contract running down.


4.) 25 Nov 2021 12:28:07
Add ons deal may be an option, but yes the January window is traditionally a bit of a firesale storm, 25 mil might well be good value in the current market.


5.) 26 Nov 2021 10:31:07
Traore Sold already to fund Hwang and Trincao imo . Between 30/35 million.


6.) 26 Nov 2021 16:08:45
I'm not sold on Trincao rather us go for someone like Noni Madueke


7.) 28 Nov 2021 12:33:10
At the moment on is performances Trincao is not worth the money they want for him,we seam to be paying way over the odds for players all the time the list just goes on Silva,Cutrone,Semedo although I like him are just a few come to mind, but whoever is responsible for our recruitment needs to be sorted out.


8.) 05 Dec 2021 15:18:15
That would be Jeff then, big. Surely everyone has noticed that the quality of the signings has reduced since Dalrymple et al were moved on.


 

 

04 Aug 2018 19:56:54
So, Pulis has confirmed that Traore will leave next week if his valuation is met.

wombourneron

1.) 04 Aug 2018 20:32:18
But that is only if the valuation is met and wolves are reluctant to do that but I do hope we get him.


2.) 04 Aug 2018 20:42:43
Just as telling is that Boro have been bidding on Freeman from QPR who would be a natural replacement, think it won't be long now.


3.) 04 Aug 2018 21:22:19
I don't see us spending 18M on vida and traore. I think it will be one or the other.


4.) 04 Aug 2018 21:57:14
Traore bid to go in Monday morning to activate release clause. Nuno sees him as a starter in the front 3 and a back up RWB.

Offer still on table for Zinchenko hoping and pushing for an answer early next week.

Still looking at Mina, Lindelof and Mangala.

Deal for Guedes is just tentative enquiry atm.

If we can get these players in then we have cover for all positions.


5.) 04 Aug 2018 22:36:54
What is your source Dot Cotten?


6.) 04 Aug 2018 23:29:36
Ian Beale.


7.) 05 Aug 2018 03:07:07
Hey if they sign him it will be exciting but I think if that’s our only bug business for the week would seems strange to me, we must be signing 2/ 3 as suggested. who would drop to allow our record signing Traore to play? Watching the game today I looked like we need a strong CB and ST (Leo has lost his lion) + a backup for Docherty.


8.) 05 Aug 2018 14:47:27
Shhh. That is heresy to suggest! We all know Leo is the best striker in the land and he will score loads.

I am being sarcastic. Leo will not score more than half a dozen goals in the Prem. You are the first person to actually notice we don't need another attacker. We need a striker. Right now we have plenty of lamps but not one lightbulb.

But you say anything and you are labelled as disloyal. Forget the fact that to be loyal means you resolve is questioned. That someone thinking everything is okay is not loyalty cause you are only there cause you think it is ok. Someone thinking a ship could sink and staying is loyal.

And I genuinely think that without a striker we will struggle. We will have a load of draws.


9.) 05 Aug 2018 16:18:39
Traore will cost more than 18m according to so called itk sources -figure being mentioned is £26m -this because the £18m activation clause fee is wanted to be payed in full by Middlesbrough but wolves don’t want do that so now talking £26m payed on instalments rather £18m lump sum so if this true expect announcement poss Tuesday 🤔.


10.) 05 Aug 2018 17:52:56
What day do you all expect this deal to be completed?


11.) 05 Aug 2018 22:34:01
Flawed- no one has a problem with peeps saying they would like another striker, truth be told who in the league wouldn't?! What is frustrating though is the fact the the windows still open, the leagues not started but still we get this NOW NOW NOW attitude from many on here like some child in a toy shop! Laurie was VERY clear and VERY open about the transfer window before it started where he (basically) said that with a WC and new window dates it would go right to the wire and be a tough window for all the promoted clubs so tell me how exactly were you expecting things to go? I mean we were LITERALLY told this was how it would be!
The other element of this point that frustrates me Flawed is that what your are basically saying is 'well us fans chatting on a forum can see this ice berg, oh if only Nuno could see it like us seasoned pros' which frankly is an insult to the mans intelligence. So no its not heresy BUT it is VERY patronising to a man who is without doubt the best manager I have seen at the Mol in my lifetime!


 

 

22 Jun 2018 15:48:07
Just had the local carpet/ flooring guy in to quote me a job. Loves his footy/ Wolves and has a lot of contacts in the area. Been informed when/ if the Rui Patricio case goes to court and he loses it is in his contract that Wolves will pay Sporting £40m!
His request. Sounds a bit strange but its a funny old game!
UTW.

wombourneron

1.) 22 Jun 2018 16:41:39
Can I ask why we’d have to pay 40m when the transfer fee was around 18m? I’m sure a tribunal would make Wolves pay part of a transfer fee rather than double the original fee?


2.) 22 Jun 2018 17:05:38
The carpet guy was in the room fitting a carpet when Jeff Shi and Jorge Mendes got the deal signed up by Rui. They asked the carpet guy to proof read the contract and countersign it and ecerything!
I thought that was obvious! 😂🤣😂🤣.


3.) 22 Jun 2018 17:34:29
At the very worst, we'd have to pay off the remainder of his Sporting contract which ran until June 2022.


4.) 22 Jun 2018 18:33:43
What a load of crap.


5.) 22 Jun 2018 19:01:01
Hope his carpet fittin is better than his story tellin,


6.) 22 Jun 2018 19:11:45
Don`t shoot the messenger!
Just thought it time I took a bit of flack!
However he is a very good carpet fitter!
UTW.


7.) 22 Jun 2018 19:16:34
Think he was pulling the Rug over your Eye's mate.


8.) 22 Jun 2018 19:28:01
You don`t think I was sucked in do you?
Why cor we ave a loff?


9.) 22 Jun 2018 20:13:19
carpet bagger!


10.) 22 Jun 2018 20:38:27
My "leccy" just done my rewiring. Said we were after a Spartak Moscow
Striker. Bit of a live wire he reckons. I am neutral on this one but it could be positive.


11.) 23 Jun 2018 01:12:30
Sounds as if this carpet man has a problem with his piles.
Lovely story. Wolves agree 18mill for Patricio, then their president demands another 2 mill which excluding inflation comes to 20 mill. We turn that down and then write a contract stating we will pay 40 if Patricio loses the case. How much will we pay then if he wins.
Still I suppose that is the price you pay if you get Del Boy to lay your carpets for you.


12.) 23 Jun 2018 06:13:59
How can he lose a case when he was beat up by fans errr rui you are completely in the wrong you should stay and get pelted again 🤣🤣🤣🤣.


13.) 23 Jun 2018 08:20:34
Yeah and my plumber says there is another deal in the pipeline

I don't know the legalities of the Sporting contracts but I reckon the agents and lawyers do just like Rangers a few years ago when the players declared they were free agents after the club went bust the action is against the players for breach of contract and the players won.


14.) 23 Jun 2018 09:29:19
What about the electrician he’s done a short circuit and got a power cut.


15.) 24 Jun 2018 12:52:20
Even if he loses it won't be 40m it will be a compensation fee more like the 16m-18m we offered them.


16.) 25 Jun 2018 12:08:32
Some people believe anything - apparently Wolves have already agreed to pay for him anyway as they don't want to see Sporting go belly up, it will be 16-18m as agreed before their chairman got greedy

No carpet fitters were listened to in the making of this rumour.


 

 

04 Jun 2018 21:57:50
Regarding signings, Nuno has only made 2 "questionable ones". One up top one at the back. Peeps who go down regular will know who I mean.
He has done a great job bringing on established players and integrating the new ones. I have no doubt he (and the owners/ recruitment) will establish us as a force in the Premier.
UTW.

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28 Dec 2021 13:06:25
So, Hwang out til Feb`. What could have been a few weeks made into a couple of months by the stupid idea of asking him to try and run it off.When your hamstring goes it`s gone! Idiots.

wombourneron

1.) 28 Dec 2021 17:29:25
Don't worry. Fabio's waiting in the wings,?????


2.) 29 Dec 2021 12:16:38
That makes me feel sooo much better Grey! Lol


3.) 29 Dec 2021 13:44:17
I keep saying it gents our backroom is a shadow of what it was! Traore going cheap cause we never replaced Thelwell. Then this will be about the third time we've taken a minor injury and turned it into months on the bench through poor medical management, like I said before that is not replacing Phil Hayward. We've got a championship back room and I'm afraid it shows in its own ways (like this Hwang injury and the ridicolous £30m option we have on Trincao)! ?


4.) 29 Dec 2021 14:25:33
To be fair, a hamstring injury was always going to keep him out for 4-6 weeks which was always likely to take us to February anyway.


5.) 29 Dec 2021 15:24:03
I get your point Statto but injuries have moved on a fair bit and it's rarely that simple. If it's a minor hamstring tweak then a bit of sports science can often limit the time out. The point is still valid that he should never have been left on, he clearly couldn't run so at that point all he could do is make it worse! The stats speak for themselves our injury record has been markedly worse since we let Hayward go!


6.) 29 Dec 2021 17:26:24
I totally agree that he should not have been allowed to continue by the medics when he first felt it go. I don't disagree with the points about the medical team but given the nature of hamstring injuries, it didn't surprise me at all that he was going to be out until February. They aren't injuries that can (or should) be rushed.


7.) 29 Dec 2021 20:19:19
Not sure the reason whang stayed on whether he was asked to stay on or if he said to the medical man I'm alright to carry on.
I assume he was asked to stay on as Wombourneron you must of heard or read that he was.
I do remember when whang went off he had as I can only see was his translater coming on and walking off with him. (who else could it be a youngish Korean woman the person I saw as his translater)


 

 

30 Oct 2021 19:26:16
When Samson lost his hair he lost his strength.
Nuno has trimmed his beard.

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22 Oct 2021 17:37:29
Seems like Boly crocked again.
Def need a centre back or two.

wombourneron

1.) 22 Oct 2021 20:45:52
He's not injures, he's ill.


 

 

31 Aug 2021 18:34:52
If things stay as they are I wonder what the spin will be from the Mol` tomorrow?

wombourneron

1.) 31 Aug 2021 19:17:07
Now sky reporting we're in talks for Kiefer Moore.


 

 

30 Aug 2021 21:48:01
Renato Sanches now heavily linked on loan.

wombourneron

1.) 31 Aug 2021 06:39:31
Superb if cones off.

COYW.


 

 

 

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12 Jan 2022 14:48:40
Bloody cheek!
Spurs now rumoured to want Traore on loan.
Tell `em to take a hike Jeff.

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06 Jan 2022 21:02:25
Hope the powers that be agree with you Mike!

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24 Nov 2021 20:50:21
Agreed as long as the price is right.

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14 Nov 2021 23:00:37
Tks for the clarification Jas.

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01 Sep 2021 20:50:28
Typical!
Tks Madman.

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12 Jan 2022 15:56:39
Nice one Oxley.

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06 Jan 2022 21:04:40
Probably be next season for him to get back to how he was Rated.

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31 Dec 2021 22:01:04
Come on Phil, give us a clue.
Won`t get a wink tonight. Lol

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29 Dec 2021 12:16:38
That makes me feel sooo much better Grey! Lol

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17 Dec 2021 21:30:25
I am not adding anything.
I think you all know my feelings on this fiascoe.

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