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17 Aug 2022 07:07:46
Reading that Mendes is offering Neto to clubs

Man O war

1.) 17 Aug 2022 08:37:22
Who wants to go to Manchester United at this point of time? Think Neto is happy in Wolves. This rumour started when we bought Guedes."A team like Wolves surly can't have two first class players in the same position" so we are expected to sell one.

2.) 17 Aug 2022 10:17:12
Skrekken, I think Wolves/Fosun caught a lot of people out with these signings and it's not over yet. We must be selling Neves because we're buying Nunes or we must be selling Neto because we've signed Guedes, etc. Actually, didn't Neto sign a new contract recently?
To be fair many of the comments I've read from other football fans are congratulations for getting these players in, tinged with envy.
The so called pundits are suddenly changing their tune as well.

3.) 17 Aug 2022 12:00:19
Hands off already been issued by Wolves about Neto.

4.) 17 Aug 2022 15:30:06
Nunes hasn't actually signed yet, and there's journo talk of a late Liverpool intervention, his preferred destination. Let's get carried away when it's for certain.

5.) 17 Aug 2022 16:04:45
Abbey, you are not the only one concerned about the Nunes deal.

6.) 17 Aug 2022 16:37:55
Liverpool pulled out of the deal weeks ago as they would rather put there faith into the youth players they have



19 Apr 2022 11:28:14
Richarlason has asked his agent to find him a new club, I'd take a punt on him

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{Ed002's Note - Not going to happen I am afraid.}

1.) 19 Apr 2022 13:24:08
Too inconsitent tbf plus if anything he'd go to a club in Champions league/ European league.

2.) 19 Apr 2022 16:11:49
Richarlason Roma written all over him.

3.) 19 Apr 2022 16:22:13
I like him richalrson but agree with Ed002 and Rated we won't get him.

4.) 20 Apr 2022 16:10:29
Decent enough player but we have Raul Hwang Neto Podense Fabio and a couple of youngsters coming through so probably not an attractive option for him



12 Jan 2022 19:19:32
Rumour is we are looking at Carlos Salcedo, a Mexican defender 29, he's contract is running down and we can snap him up for around £7 million

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18 Dec 2021 14:30:18
Linked with Origi again, hows about Traore plus 20 million swap for Origi.

Man O war

1.) 18 Dec 2021 17:07:19
It does appear that a parting of the ways appears inevitable and you would hope that we are ensuring we maximise the return by running a proper process.
However Liverpool - despite Klopps very positive remarks - wouldn't appear an obvious landing spot for him as he plays in the same position as Salah, who surely is the best player in Britain right now.
But if they are interested they do have some assets that might be of use to us.
I agree that Origi, whose goal scoring record is good, might be a viable alternative to Jimenez but rather than taking cash to balance out the deal (and I would imagine we would expect far more than £20m) how about taking Joe Gomez - an experienced and solid CB (or a cheaper option might be Nat Phillips?) and the Ox, (if fit a v good ACM?).
Taking 3 players with patchy records and injury issues is a worry but we aren't in a strong position.
The success of Jota - who was the junnior partner to Traore when they were both at Wolves - might make Liverpool more maleable but unless Salah is moving on I can't see why they would be willing to apy his full value as he wouldn't get a game ahead of Salah.
All in all its not a deal I would want to do but I guess it will depend on what other offers we get or if we can get hin to sign an extension as we def don't want ot lose him on a free in 18 months time.

2.) 19 Dec 2021 12:51:25
Yes Origi would be an option and even one other player say Gomez in a swap deal

3.) 22 Dec 2021 16:23:47
I think some may need to readjust there valuations of Adama. I rate the guy but to other clubs he will be seen as an impact/luxury player who more importantly only has 18 months left on his contract with no intention of signing a new one! Under those circumstances I think we'd be lucky just to get Origi in a straight swap. Saddly when you are forced to sell a player it stops being about the value he has to our club and more about the value an erratic player with an 18 month contract has to another club! ?

4.) 22 Dec 2021 16:26:38
Ps- TFG when Pool were first tied with Adama even the reports said any move would rely on him being happy on the bench at Anfield. I think Klopp sees him as there perfect impact sub (he's probs not wrong there). I suppose (saddly) from Adamas pov if your going to be on a bench your better off on Pools bench than ours?! ?

5.) 22 Dec 2021 17:38:33
BB agreed a seat warmer at Liverpool probably pays better. I guess its down to personal ambition do you to actually play football and be an international player or fill your wallet. He could have earned more in the last 18 months by resigning though. Not sure where the guys head is tbh. He is probably the best frustrating player we've ever had tbh!

6.) 22 Dec 2021 21:09:05
BB - we are indeed in a weak position to extract value no doubt so Jeff will have to earn his corn. Also there is no disputing that Liverpool would be an odd place for him to go as he would struggle to get into the first team ( as he would at City as well - but there because they just have so many options rather tnan an obviously superiror rival a la Salah. Frankly if you look at for example Grealish v Traore surely you have to say Traore every day of the week {faster, stronger and far more skillful}? Note they also paid mega bucks for Grealish) but elsewhere?
Obviously it is all about opinions and some don't see what I see in him but his "weakness" and lack of consistent output is in my view more a feature of the team he plays for than him.
We effectively play 8/9 at the back and on the handful of occassions we do go forwards expect him to perform miracles against 4 or 5 defenders with little or no support, (and let's be honest some of the players we have asked him to work with over the last 18 months have for various reasons been woefully inadequate and consequently even when he has produced the required miracles - which last year he did regularly particularly in the 2nd half of the season - they missed the chances he created) and of course zero protection from refs.
Under Nuno in 2019/20 we were not exactly an attaking side but even with just Doherty, a fit and firing Jimenez and an occassionally in form and motivated Jota (none of which we now have), to compliment him he was a totally different beast.
Consequently what other teams will be looking at is what they could get out of him. If they surround him with better players, play a style more suited to his game and of course realise that he will enjoy protection from refs what would he bring them.
Plus how many players of his quality are ever available in their prime.
He is undeniably the fastest, strongest and most skillful player in the Prem and that surely means a team should be able to extract substantial value from him - but I obviously accept that over the past 18 months we havent!
Consequently Shi will need to create a market AND not deal with a single team. He needs to play one off against another both here and overseas - Traore is probably better suited to European football.
Which club will want not just to lose out on the best player on the market but see a rival gain him for a mere few million more?
Despite all this sadly I fear that we will lose him for peanuts as I have no faith in Shi - full stop.
Many moan about the Jota deal but we all know that by the end of the 2019/20 season Jota was quite correctly buried deep on our bench as for long periods in his last season at the club he wasn't at his best and consequently not a patch on Traore or Netto - or frankly even Podence
But now?
Just think how we will moan when Traore similarly blossoms and we all can see what he can do and the "end result" is reported week after week!

7.) 23 Dec 2021 00:56:36
TFG- as usual fella I agree with most of what you say. Although I would caveat it, so whils I might prefer Traore to Grealish as an all round player I'm afraid the 'stats' are still stacked in Jack favour. For a start when you look at assists and goals over the last three seasons (which top clubs will) then the stats say on average Jack plays a hand in around 12-16 goals a season, whereas Adamas is around five (with his best season being 14). Now I actually agree with you in that it's partly down to our system but we also can't ignore that it's also a large part to do with Adamas lack of composure (both in front of goal and finding the through ball).
The other BIG caveat I would also add was that Jack had JUST signed a five year deal with a £100m release fee, add to that he helped City with an English quota (which they also needed). Like you say its all about the position the respective 'selling' club has put themselves in to negotiate and yet again we are sadly found wanting! I've moaned about the back room staff before but do you think Thelwell would have let him run his contact down?! I suspect not, I think he would have got tough (like we should have done) and said sign or we are forced to sell at the beginning of the season! We won't get a good fee and not because he isn't a good player but because we have left ourselves very little room for negotiation! ?

8.) 23 Dec 2021 13:31:43
BB - Excellent, articulate and rationale response!
Sadly we are both of a similar view as to where we will end up albeit with perhaps a slightly different emphasis as to why.
(I accept that no one would regard Traore as a natural finisher but actually I think his ability to get the cross in is 2nd to none. To be fair I can't deny that at Wolves there is rarely anyone on the end of them and so goals do not tend to ensue. At other clubs though they would have players willing to, able to and aware of the need to make the correct runs and therefore be on the end of the cross - like for example Dendonker did so magnificently against WH last year)

9.) 28 Dec 2021 09:20:37
TFIOG, I like the idea of a couple of Liverpool players for Adama. Phillips and Origi would work for me (Ox is a good player but we have MGW who’s time will surely come and soon). Sadly I think Liverpool will overvalue their players to prevent this deal (tbf they always do).
One option that might work for both clubs is a straight swap between Adama and Guedes of Valencia. He would be a serious upgrade on Trincao and provide central support for Raul especially if we pull out of the Hwang deal. With Neto, Podence, MGW and potentially RAN (if we push him further forward once Johnny is fit) then there are plenty of forward permutations.

10.) 28 Dec 2021 21:12:27
NES - I guess you are correct - it all depends on where each of the parties see the relative values of the players.
I had seen that Liverpool were willing to let Origi go for £10m but suspect his little flurry of goals and the desperation of others (Newcastle post Wilson?) will push that higher whilst Phillips a v limited but effective Premier League stopper will presumably attract bids in a similar space £10-15m. But with WH amongst others interested (allegedly) I don't think we would (as we gave up our place at the fringe of the top table to them and several others), stand much chance.
But even valuing the two at the top end do we want more than say £30m of "value" for Traore?
As BB correctly pointed out many people value attacking players by looking at things like goals and assists
I think those are merely the end products of good players, in good teams playing attacking football.
To value an attacking player I look at things like can he control the ball, can he retain it under pressure, can he beat a man and move up the field, can he under pressue and marked play the ball into the right areas of the pitch to provide opportunities for other good players and (sadly of course this is where Traore falls short) can he finish.
If we think Hwang - who can't control the ball or retain it etc is cheap at £10m+ or Trincao is even vaguely not insane at £25m, (and don't let's even mention Fabio), then Traore is surely worth substantially more than £30m.
But others see it differently and I suspect that until Traore is playing with better players in a "bigger" team playing attacking football - and thus racking up the assists (and even a few goals) as Jota is now doing they won't see it the way I do.
Lets hope the rumours of Barcelona, Valencia, Chelsea, Spurs, City, Real Madrid and Liverpool to name just a few of the teams linked with him mean that we can get an auction going.
But as stated above I am fearful that we will sell him for somethng like or even less than £30m
v depressing!



14 Nov 2021 14:47:32
Paper talk: Liverpool and Man City are targeting Hwang. Good job we have an option to clause

Man O war

1.) 14 Nov 2021 21:24:57
The options available to Man City and Liverpool regarding Hwang Hee-Chan:
1: They can only negotiate with RB Leipzig at the end of the season but only if we don't take up the option to purchase the player.

2: Either team can pay us a compensation fee for us to 'step aside' so that the loan agreement can be terminated and they negotiate with his club in the summer.

3: Negotiate directly with Wolves in January so that we buy him earlier than agreed with RB Leipzig and agree a fee to sell him in the summer to either Man City or Liverpool.

However, the fact that a player can only play for 2 teams during a season means makes it highly unlikely that he will be joining either of them teams in January.

2.) 14 Nov 2021 23:00:37
Tks for the clarification Jas.

3.) 14 Nov 2021 23:04:04
Yes we need to tie this guy to a contract asap. On another issue interesting article in the daily mail the other day from some academic on how much each club can spend based on ffp and recent published accounts.

4.) 15 Nov 2021 17:01:00
Please excuse my ignorance but has he already played for Leipzig this season

5.) 15 Nov 2021 17:48:09
Answering my own question he played 2 Bundesliga games, so he cannot play for a third team this season

6.) 15 Nov 2021 18:38:52
Thanks Jas for your comment




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18 Aug 2022 07:05:54
Future lineup


Jonny Kilman Collins Semado

Nunes Neves Moutinho

Neto Jimenez Guedes

Man O war

1.) 18 Aug 2022 08:25:10
Oh Oh Oh it’s magic you know Nunes Neves Neto
You know you all want to sing it lol

2.) 18 Aug 2022 09:11:39
Superb northbank22, maybe they'll Pilot us to great things?

3.) 18 Aug 2022 09:56:43
To improve is to change
To be perfect is to change often

Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference

If your going through hell keep going

If we open a quarrel with past and present,we shall find we have lost the future

4.) 18 Aug 2022 09:41:01
Just hope we don't sell Neto.rather Traore and maybe MGW if we need to

5.) 18 Aug 2022 12:15:57
A cracking line up that is Man O war.


6.) 18 Aug 2022 12:29:08
That`s my big worry Nigel, keeping Neto and Neves.
Will wait till the end of the window before I get my humble pie out.
Briliant window so far.

7.) 18 Aug 2022 13:08:08
Wombourneron, Not sure how they know but the Athletic are claiming that Wolves don't need to sell anyone to 'balance the books'.
Any outgoings will be by choice and not necessity and don't forget it's not just a rebuild of the team but the bench as well, just as important.

8.) 18 Aug 2022 13:59:07
Yep, saw that Long.
I AM Wombournes biggest worrier!



16 Aug 2022 07:36:03
Fosun have been made some smart investments this window and haven't spent money just for the sake of it, I have never lost faith

Man O war

1.) 16 Aug 2022 09:53:53
I'm ashamed to say I did start to doubt.

2.) 16 Aug 2022 10:33:41
MOW - Fosun are smart, evident from their business successes and company growth, not to mention how far they've brought Wolves. Unbelievably some have been calling for them to sell the club predicting relegation, which I know they do every year for some bizarre reason as Wolves have been nowhere near that under Fosuns ownership.
As a measure of their commitment to Wolves, when needed, they brought in the heavy mob not only to back the manager to get this deal done, but break the clubs transfer record in the process. As I've said before very often the addition of just a couple of players, the right players, can transform a team.
Wolves are rebuilding, having had the clear out, yes, squeaky-bum time for us fans, but now are assembling some amazing players to mould into a team with great potential imo. Yes, we need that striker but I have no doubt now that bus will be along shortly.

3.) 16 Aug 2022 10:42:53
Gone from having to be self sufficient to laying out on a new record signing (who just happens to play in the same position as Neves) in the blink of an eye. I get more sceptical every day, my guess is if he proves himself he’ll be taking the same route as Jota, couldn’t do that deal with West Ham.

4.) 16 Aug 2022 11:02:46
It hasn't actually been officially announced yet, let's not get carried away to soon, and if we're cynical 45m out for same as neves then fosuns business might be 80-100m for Ruben out, 40-50m in pocket!?.
More likely MGW out 25/30m Adama out 10+m. Though obviously we'd prefer to keep all three. Not raining on the parade I'm over joyed. Just need the next moves to allay the pessimism .

5.) 16 Aug 2022 17:39:22
Right to be cautious Abbeywolf, a fee has been agreed with his club but not personal terms with player. Until all is done and dusted and signature on paper you can only sit and hope. I still think a striker is priority but such quality is very welcome.



11 Aug 2022 11:59:56
Just watched some highlights of Guedes, and he looks class. Hope we get Bounacar Traore, Nunes would be a nice signing but I wouldn't be upset if he didn't sign

Man O war

1.) 11 Aug 2022 13:22:52
I'd rather we signed Traore tbh at least he wants to come unlike Nunes.

2.) 11 Aug 2022 13:36:24
MOW - After watching those highlights Guedes, Neto and Jimenez will do for me. Chuck in Podence and Traore occasionally, plus, someone in the middle who can also drive the game forward. Get the defence fully integrated into a back four with the support of our top goalkeeper and the jobs a good 'un.
Of course, ahem, while keeping injuries to a minimum.

3.) 11 Aug 2022 16:55:51
Delighted to see some positive incoming, of real quality too. We are still a light squad, and have suffered for that in past years. Another couple of Prem ready players would give us the depth and choice to sustain a real chase for some silver, and allow youngsters to grow without huge pressure.

4.) 12 Aug 2022 08:36:11
Light would be an understatement! Happy to get Guedes but in terms of numbers we've added nothing, it's been one in one out. Look at our bench last week and compare it to any other team in this league and I think saying even light is generous if honest! Yet again this wkend we will have two first team players on our bench, we are two injuries away from having a bench of academy olny players (and Podence hasn't gone six weeks yet without getting injured)! It's bizarre to me how newly promoted teams and teams that finished well below us last year are capable of fielding a proper bench and we aren't?! Sorry folks but we will keep losing games from the bench until we actually have a bench! Guedes is a good player but he's not a striker, he scored 10 goals last season so when you convert that to the Prem he'll do well to get 5 first season! So I'm still not sure where our goals are going to come from right now?

5.) 12 Aug 2022 09:52:03
Hi bullysboy thinking for us wolves fans there is always something that keeps us biting our nails.
But really hope you have a good experience tomorrow at the match and banish the collapse at the end of last season.?

With jiminez Traore semedo to come back from injury it won't be long before we have 5 experienced subs on the bench.
But Traore and MGW may leave.
We'll wait in great anticipation as to how the rest of this month unfolds.

6.) 12 Aug 2022 11:01:36
Phil- as always Phil you are bang on the money fella! I actually thought the idea was to use the youngsters this season but then we've sent the most expensive one out (Fabio) then Brunos done an interview saying the most senior of them might not be staying either (Ronan)!
I hope as you say it'll all be fine but then I read Connor comments that somethings not right at the club and I have to be honest fella I'm concerned! Let's hope we get a win tomoz i'm front or a roaring Mol and start to feel a bit better about things. We better win cause lose again tomoz and peeps really will start asking questions! COYW ?

7.) 12 Aug 2022 13:23:02
Agree lose tomorrow and there will be more questions asked.
It's time now well tomorrow the time to see if Lage change of formation 4 at the back at home gets us 3 points.
I'm looking to see a good all round commanding performance.
The molineux crowd is there for the team an early goal and let's put Fulham to the sword.
A defeat by conceding sloppy goal or goals will not go down to well with the crowd.
I think that's always there for any team but with our circumstances this close season just gone as obvious the Anti is sky high.
We will see if Lages plan is fruitful or not.?



07 Aug 2022 08:03:50
Watched the highlights, build up for our goal was great, Jose Sa should of saved the 1st goal. RAN is not a full back he is a WB, go back to a back 3 of Kilman Coady and Collins. Thought Hwang looked good but he needed to come off earlier cause of his injury. Overall we played alright only the 1st game we have players to come back but we do need another 2 more signings COYW

Man O war

1.) 07 Aug 2022 08:57:19
If we go back to a 3 then you might aswell sack Bruno. That's never going to happen and I for one will always encourage a back four. Yes RAN was at fault which annoyed out of me. Clear your lines you Muppet. MGW still looks light-weight. I'd sell and recycle the money into getting a striker asap. Everton are in the same boat as us for the need of centre forward so come on Jeff, pull your finger out.

2.) 07 Aug 2022 10:36:42
Don’t agree re MGW,first half he really wasn’t in the game second half I thought he played well. Defensive panic for almost the whole of the 1st half after we scored but settled down after the break,maybe nerves with new system 1st game of the season,
But how we need some additions. I said to Abbeywolf the other day how I thought Ran was too flashy,he got caught out today trying to be clever.

3.) 07 Aug 2022 10:37:00
Ragingbull : nobody’s in the same boat as us, Everton took 10 points from their last 7 games of the season, their manager gets the best out of what he’s got, they know what system they’re trying to play and they just gave Chelsea a decent game, we took 2 points in the same time, our players haven’t a clue what the manager’s trying to get them to do and storms off up the tunnel after being beat for the second time in a few months by a poor Leeds side and their recently appointed American manager with no experience of the Premier League, if we are in a boat it’s a submarine, a yellow one of course, as we used to sing from the terraces of the real North Bank, we used to win most of our home games and the occasional League Cup back then.

4.) 07 Aug 2022 11:30:24
We're picking the bones of the game and ignoring the flesh. Neves no doubt the engine room and the ball to neto for the goal and example. Hwang, by no means the answer, was much better yesterday but his reactions to things always theatrical, it was his overreaction that sparked brunos upset with the Leeds bench. Going back to neto he's a gem up front. Podence is always trouble and a great asset. MgW does look abit light in the tackle and maybe if the moneys right? Sadly lacked moutininho and dendonker didn't really impress, as I think nigelt says below perhaps coady should have been given a chance in the spot for a while. RAN as Norfolk pointed out was caught out trying to be clever but I have to say Sa should've stopped the goal, whether the pitch was uneven that end or Sa just unsure I don't know but he almost walked the ball in off his foot too, fantastic save from Bamford tho. Leeds also had their keeper to thank remember, dendonkers header even when dendonker should of scored. Jonny was excellent I thought and I think it really is finding two/three suitable newcomers to get us running and that's where the real worry is, who? When? And why aren't they already in place?. Jeff, Scott Fosun the ball metaphorically is in your hands. Our season isn't over, end of last season irrelevant, it's securing the future. Coady is a must in retaining (although I respect his world cup aims) neves likewise, pay him whatever he's essential. MGW (who I would like to keep) and traore could go for the right price and help fund purchases, but the questions still there, who can we get to come to molineux?

5.) 07 Aug 2022 12:09:12
The club's owner or owners need to get this club up and running in the right direction, if they want to continue with a football team to get in the top 6 which they promised not the fans.
To do that they need to address the people they put in charge who keep making same mistakes after mistakes which is laughable,10 losses I think in about last 15 games is not acceptable,you only have to look at the bench against Leeds to know that our club is in real trouble, over to you Mr.Shi get the cheque book out or we will be fighting relegation,no more excuses please.

6.) 07 Aug 2022 12:47:13
Just wanted to say regarding dendonker, I noticed him stop Leeds attacking around 7 times, yes he had some mistakes etc but he was doing a fairly good job of breaking plays us and getting us going again. Could Coady do that? Maybe but he’s fairly slow and although dendonker looks slow I think part of that is just the way he runs. Personally I’d keep Coady, we need big characters, I was hoping he would be shouting from the sidelines but looked fairly placid from what I saw.

7.) 07 Aug 2022 13:50:17
Agree. Coady was especially quiet,
Not like him. I fear the worse.
Don't think he's going start many games if any,and I'm sure he wants to go to the world cup,so needs to play regularly,feel sorry for him,tbh,best team man I've ever come across,Bruno hang your head,in shame,or play him,

8.) 07 Aug 2022 14:22:50
Every pic of coady showed him biting his nails. Big things to chew over?

9.) 07 Aug 2022 19:24:43
Oxley moor ron. I was referring to Everton needed a striker like us only as Rondon and Calvert Lewin are out .

10.) 07 Aug 2022 20:36:09
Nothing up with hwang only that he's useless and now knows he's not good enuf himself.and ait nouri is no better than vinagre was.



23 Jul 2022 18:00:42
Dazzling Dave on YouTube live streaming Wolves v Besiktas

Man O war

1.) 23 Jul 2022 19:07:08
Case of oh arghhh, ough arhhh, and a stroll in. Hopefully jiminez not too bad, neto literally running em ragged. Some lovely moves just not making it but good performance so far 3-0 half time, who will bruno give a second half run out?

2.) 23 Jul 2022 20:08:47
Starting back four looked good as did midfield. MGW key if we are going to play with more emphasis on attack. Play in the first half was encouraging but lack of real depth is still an issue. Not sure what future holds for Coady if we persevere with a back four. Look on his face at end of game looked like he was having the same thoughts. I think Toti is better option as left sided CB and Boly, for that matter. I think, if an offer comes in from a prem team, committed to playing three at the back, Coady will jump at the chance and who could blame him?




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18 Aug 2022 16:18:10
I liked MGW but that kinda money is a no brainer, I don't think he would of signed a new contract with us anyway

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27 Jun 2022 12:15:51
Exwolves, it would be fantastic if Neves signed a new contract with us as for Renan I've been reading he's one for the future, I believe we have got a few players for the future I would like to see a player for now who can improve our team

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22 Jun 2022 15:40:14
I've been reading today he wants to stop in SA and doesn't want a move

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09 Jun 2022 15:14:09
Been reading that Barcelona don't want to sell Gonzalez

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17 May 2022 13:12:32
We have got great future prospects within our squad/under 23s I think we could do with couple of ready made players

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18 Aug 2022 07:19:21
Agree with you Longmyndwolf

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13 Aug 2022 14:07:21
Like the line up like bench going for 2-0 Wolves win

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12 Aug 2022 18:18:04
Totally agree Italia Wolf

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09 Aug 2022 10:39:22
Looking forward to watching Guedes play need 1 more midfielder imo, the transfer window has been slow but never lost faith

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08 Aug 2022 18:32:08
So true Oxley

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