18 Aug 2022 14:30:06
Long time reader, first time poster.Spiers quoting David Ornstein as Forest having agreed with Wolves £44.5m for Gibbs-White. Think we done good there!


1.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 15:08:34
35m flat fee plus the add ins. Great business.


2.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 15:10:38
Very good price Forest must see something special to pay that amount on a virtually unknown quality.


3.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 15:29:13
If this is true and it appears to be let's hope we have negotiated both a sell on - in case he does turn out to be as good as his early promise hinted so that when Forest sell him for massive money to be big 6 team we still benefit to some extent AND a realistic, i.e. lower than we are selling for, buy back option if Forest go down - which must still be possible - but he is still worth a place in the Prem.
ps
From a cash perspective Nunes for MGW may be nearly square (hopefully that is a major win for us?) but from a FFP/P and L perspective it is indeed massively in our favour. We take the entire payment up front as profit - he was in the books at zero - but are able to spread the Nunes acquisition over the life of the contract.
Given the pressure on our accounts for various reasons over the last two years this is a major plus.


4.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 15:30:11
Gibbs-White is a very competent footballer but it has to be said, Bruno has played a blinder over the last few weeks talking up G-W's abilities and hence his price!


5.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 15:50:48
If that's correct I'ld take it and let the lad go if he thinks its a good move for him. MGW may come good and maybe Steve Cooper has a different system which could utilise him better but so far the chances he's had at Wolves in a top 10 side haven't been taken. That said if he wants to sign the new contract and stay that's also fine by me to.


6.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 16:08:12
However good MGW turns out to be, thus is too good to turn down. Utterly insane to pay these amounts for a player not proven at top levels


7.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 16:18:10
I liked MGW but that kinda money is a no brainer, I don't think he would of signed a new contract with us anyway


8.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 16:21:58
Money was too good to turn down, wishing MGW all the best for the remainder of his career.


9.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 16:26:40
MGW won the u17 World Cup a few years back and had a good season the one before with Swansea- both under Cooper who seems to be able to get a tune out of him. Good deal for both and someone was going to pay for the Nunes deal- could've been worse


10.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 16:52:19
I never wanted him to go but at 44.5m it's a no brainer unless Forest know something we don't


11.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 17:10:05
Welcome to the site Bullys Magic Boots. He said he wanted to play for Wolves but wouldn't sign a new contract, (not sure what they were offering him though) said he'd matured but I doubt that. For me, swapping him out for Nunes for roughly the same price is superb business.
Of course I wish him well but for me, he's just one of those 'nagging doubts' sort of a player.


12.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 20:20:04
Yeah I have to echo others here, I wanted to keep MGW but I think at that price we'd be silly not to! As always Future's on the money re: sell ons and buy backs but not sure its likely. Copper has worked with him a LOT so may well know something the rest of us don't but if you'd offered me him or Nunes at the start of the window I think you'd struggle to find a single fan that wouldn't take Nunes! Not to mention the fact to get that kind of money for a player whos not signing a contract with only two years left and who's only ever really shone in the champ REALLY is impressive (credit where its due:)
Don't want to put a downer on things but it does make me wonder what's happened to the home grown plan?! Best case scenario, we get Ramos (or another striker) and we crash the top six this season. We get Europe again but again we can only name a squad of 21 cause we STILL don't have any home grow players?! Cause originally Fabio, Hooever and MGW were going to fix that problem taking three of the four homegrown slots. Out of those lot MGW is off, Fabio now won't qualify cause we loaned him abroad a season before it was due (still not sure why to be honest with the end in sight) and Hooever increasingly looks like a player who has decided Football may not be his profession of choice (another manager saying his attitude stinks this early on is frankly shocking)! Like I say not complaining cause the clubs done well here. I am just wondering why the basis of our transfer policy seems so sporadic when it comes to homegrown players. There was talk of a Sporting Director and that would be equally exciting news (for me:). Anyway they are tomorrow's problems, for today we've signed what really could be one of the best young cms in the world right now! Happy days! COYW ?


13.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 20:59:19
I think this is a great deal for Wolves.
They buy a proven European superstar who (eventually) wanted to come here and play, and then sell a decent but unproven player for the same price.
Best of luck to MGW but it seems a massive price to me. Well done Wolves.
What I don't understand is selling players who have been a big part of the pre-season. Players that have knowledge of our strategies, our strengths, our tactics. It's probably all down to timing bit it seems a bit daft to me. Same as Benfica waiting Ramos for first two CL games. If they do well then why sell him after two games.
Football. It's bonkers! Ha Ha!@


14.) 19 Aug 2022
19 Aug 2022 08:18:37
Bullysboy hard to argue with anything you say and my initial thought with Fabio was exactly the same, why not loan him to championship instead but I have read that he will still qualify for homegrown as he would have had 3 years on our books. I'm not saying what I read is true but I do think it was in the e and s ?


15.) 19 Aug 2022
19 Aug 2022 09:16:31
Not been reported but Wolves put a sell on clause into the deal, it all adds up I guess


16.) 19 Aug 2022
19 Aug 2022 12:09:06
Just going back to what Bully boy said on homegrown we selected on the bench last Saturday Campbell Cundle and Ronan surely these kids are the future and homegrown could I also ask would Toti and Chiquinho fall into this home grown talent eventually?


17.) 19 Aug 2022
19 Aug 2022 15:05:42
South- it's no longer just 3 years on the books you now have to play/train for the club. I believe there is a way round it if like you say they stay in the country (thus allowing them to still play in the occasional reserves match but that has to be agreed in the loan and rarely is).
Stour- I believe that Chem Campbell and Cundle will already be qualified as they've been at the club for. years. As for Toti and Chiquinho both arrived in the 20's I believe so saddly neither would be able to qualify.


18.) 20 Aug 2022
20 Aug 2022 00:32:28
Ps- I'm also pretty sure Ronan won't qualify as he's spent most of his time with us out on loans (but might be wrong depending how early we got him) ?


19.) 20 Aug 2022
20 Aug 2022 07:45:04
Bullysboy that's exactly what I thought but I know I've read it somewhere ? fingers crossed we get a striker in soon