06 Feb 2023 12:54:34
Looks like Man City are in hot water over ffp I wonder if they'll get away with it again.
I can see Forest getting into hot water too.

1.) 06 Feb 2023
06 Feb 2023 15:45:10
Points deduction would do nicely.

2.) 06 Feb 2023
06 Feb 2023 17:27:50
Man City have been referred due to 100+ breaches of rules involving FFP rules. This means they will be found guilty and given a fine of £1m suspended for 5 years.

Forest will be found guilty of breaching FFP by a couple of pennies and be fined £50m, deducted 50 points immediately and warned about being expelled from English football and a winding up order issued if repeated.

3.) 06 Feb 2023
06 Feb 2023 18:05:19
We were the 10th biggest spenders in the summer I believe. That's 10th biggest in Europe.

4.) 07 Feb 2023
06 Feb 2023 22:02:09
I must be honest I thought this had been swept under the carpet but in reality and for whatever reason this investigation has been going on for 4 years and goes back as far as the 2009/2010 season.

There's a couple of clips on YouTube posted by Talksport about this that are worth a listen. If even half of these charges are proven City could well get the book thrown at them. This is a can of worms, no doubt.

Jas I know you were being facetious but I don't think this is a slap on the wrist situation, as a fine of any size is no punishment, in reality. It could involve a massive points deduction or even expulsion from the Premier League. It's unlikely, however, that any sanctions will be applied this season.

5.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 06:49:12
Just to clarify by expulsion I mean relegation.

6.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 06:50:20
I'm just thinking back to when Wolves were fined for making 10 changes to a team under Mick Mccarthey but Man Utd and Chelsea did the same thing the very next week and nothing happened.

7.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 06:52:38
Sadly the way the legal system works in many situations, it is easy for top Lawyers to do a good job and have very guilty clients let off.
City have the best and they have successfully kicked this problem down the road for years.
The tactics are to tie up the Prosecution in Process challenges
until they just give up.
A cynical view on the legal system I know. Anyone involved in the "justice" system will tell you the same.

8.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 07:56:39
That's true Rugeley but the Premier League needs to get this done and dusted now as the Government plans to introduce a football regulator with presumably powers to ensure fair play in the game.

Even City's response statement claims to welcome the opportunity to put this to bed once and for all (paraphrase), it's been going on for far too long. Will they survive the court of public opinion? Not sure how many players will want to join a club subject to this number of charges, even the manager says he'll walk if he finds out the club have lied to him.

{Ed001's Note - Pep says that, but he knows full well what was going on as part of his salary comes in under the table payments. So he knows they haven't lied to him, as he was a part of it all as are all the players.}

9.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 08:45:20
They won't expel them,if they do then it gives them the green light to forge a super league with those other clubs.

10.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 10:21:39
Longmynd, the new regulator will probably have as much authority as often, ofwat, ofcom and all the others that are supposed to stop Joe Bloggs getting ripped off!

Anyway Offside as a good name for it anyone?

11.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 10:53:13
Spot on ED001 Pep is far from innocent in all of this.

12.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 11:57:10
Nothing serious will happen. Probably a big fine and a suspended points deduction at best. Don't hold your breath on this one.

13.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 12:15:51
Demon haven't they all signed a legally binding commitment not to do that?

There are over a 100 charges which if proven mean that City have been massively breaking the rules for years. I don't think all the other clubs will settle for a slap on the wrist type of punishment.

Championships lost, European spots missed out on, there'll need to be blood spilled for sure.

14.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 14:53:17
UEFA found them guilty but they went to arbitration and ended with a slap. This time if they were found to be guilty there would be no arbitration as we are not signed up to the Swiss get off service!
We were done under FFP and had to cut our cloth when possibly we could have kicked on. Let's hope that if found guilty they get hammered.
Let's face it if they are guilty its good old fashioned cheating and they deserve what ever happens to them!
Sadly in this and every case the innocent ones are the fans that find out that the club they love is built on lies!

15.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 17:22:20
Ed - was that his salary or Mancini's?

{Ed001's Note - both.}

16.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 20:27:18
These are the big boys (?) What was it that Swindon Town did that saw them relegated from the prem into the now league one? That was a massive punishment for a small club. You can bet your life that city won't get that type of justice. If they remove their titles, so what? Big fine again simply sell a couple of players. They should be thrown out the prem, denied live TV coverage to reduce sponsorship income. Again why did rangers get demoted in Scotland and have to work their way back?

17.) 08 Feb 2023
08 Feb 2023 06:59:52
I guess Abbeywolf, those two Clubs didn't have the Top=class Lawyers Man. City have.
As I said above. at this level, in any case, the tactic is to constantly challenge the processes used by the Prosecution and kill the charge.
A former Partner in Freshfields, one of the oldest legal firms in the UK (now Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer LLP), once told me: "Don't imagine there is much of a relationship between what is right and justice"
say no more.

18.) 08 Feb 2023
08 Feb 2023 15:24:29
If you happen to be squeaky clean you don't usually need 80k a day lawyer's I wouldn't have thought!

19.) 08 Feb 2023
08 Feb 2023 17:41:16
Perhaps he's being paid with sponsorship money they never had Ken.