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11 Jul 2012 22:40:59
Roger Johnson is set to sign for Southampton after West Ham pulled out of the running. Fee is reported 2m



Rj is part of stales plan time for fans and rj to build bridges he will be partnered by Danny batth.traing ground spirit is excellent players have taken to solbakken and lange.



My car is full of petrol what time does he want picking up



2million no chance he may have caused unrest last season but we will not take less then half what we paid for him



Give Johnson and all the lads a chance. Im 1000% behind all of them. History is exactly that !!



Batth n RJ are both right sided CB, so theres noway they will play together, sum1 needs to learn futi



Rj must stay forget last season roger was made a scapegoat by 2 very poor managers and 2 absolutely pathetic man managers.hopefully mm gets the forest job and takes cry baby connor with him



RJ and Batth both right sided CBs. So what! Ward played in nearly every position except goal last season.



So what if they are both right sided they are a best pairing learn ur futi let's ave Stearman and Berra then eh



Have any of you actually seen Baath play? Just because he did well in league one doesn't mean he is up to the standard wolves want to be.
Johnson and Baath wouldn't wok as a partnership as Johnson needs a footballing centre half next to him (ala Scott dann)
These two won't be our defensive partnership next season.



Its impossible to just change the side that a CB is, positioning, body shape, direction of turns, if you had played at any half decent standard you would know this! Berra n RJ will be 1st choice unles they leave or a LCB is bought in! {Ed001's Note - Terry managed it, he started on the right and now plays on the left. It is ludicrous to suggest it is impossible, it depends on the player. Some players are adaptable and can play different sides and others struggle to adapt.}



If he has trained as a RCB, which he wud have, then it is impossible to do within a pre season, terry started as a RCB, but had to train as a LCB, this was the only way to break into the chelsea team. He is 1 of very few that can do this! {Ed001's Note - that is simply a lie. Many players play different positions, being left or right side of central defence is not that big a step for a player, certainly less of one than playing full back for instance. The body shape is mostly determined by whether you are covering in behind or pushing up to make a challenge, not the side they are on.}



Its not a lie at all, as why the biggest discussion before the euros was the CB partnership, its only becuz terry has played n trained for that position. If not then it wud have been a big problem! Its not about footed of anythng other than position n turning, CB for instance are taught to turn towards there fellow CB, this isnt easy to change allthough it sounds simple! Im not saying it cannot be taught, but it cant within 1 pre season! {Ed001's Note - funny that, Terry managed ok without being trained, he was thrown in on the left due to injuries. Centre backs are not taught to turn towards their fellow centre backs at all, they are taught to stay goal side and guide attackers away from the goal. The issue with playing on the opposite side comes down to them having to play the attacker towards their weak foot. It comes down to technique, a player with good technique will be able to cope, one with poor technique struggles to compensate. The talk before the Euros about it was down to gormless journalists with no idea about how to play football. They spend so much time worshipping at the feet of long ball merchants, such as Howard Wilkinson, and believe everything these people tell them. They fail to see that England has fallen so far behind countries like Spain is because of idiots like Wilkinson controlling the coaching players receive. I prefer to listen to those with a clue about playing real football, on the ground, passing to feet, such as Dario Gradi.}



All these people who want RJ out is fine, name his replacement, put up or shut up



He'll play on Which ever side solbakken puts him. For god sake he's a professional footballer hes on 40k he'll play left or right not as if if miles out of position.



Danny Batth = Mark Davies MkII



Roger johnson is definately not good enough for the premiership and is not worth 2 mil bout 1 mil



JTwas thrown in on the left? He is a LCB. N trust me, on the turn CB r told to turn inwards to be able to see their fellow CB, Its nothing to do with their weaker side, JT is a right footed LCB, vidic the same, nothing to do with what footed they are. I agree with the standard of coaching and style. But trust me, the seemingly simple transition from ledt to right or visa versa CB is maybe one of the most technical changes, n batth will not play with RJ, which was the original arguement {Ed001's Note - you must live in some kind of fantasy world, you still have not understood anything said to you and you are talking complete nonsense. Vidic played on the right side and the left side, he just settled in on the left at United. Give it a rest, you clearly have no idea about these players, you also have no idea about defending. This is embarrassing. You only turn inwards to keep a line, it is nothing technical or difficult for a player to do, no matter which side they are on.}



ED tbh you both have strong points but i guess you play the guy on what ever side he feels most comfortable=confidence {Ed001's Note - yes, you do, but, like I said, there is no real reason, other than having to show attackers onto a weaker foot, that a centre back can't play on the other side of the defence. If the players are brought up with good technique, there is no real reason they can't play anywhere you put them. It is a pathetic English joke that our players are so poor technically that they are not comfortable playing numerous positions. Look at Crewe, in the play off final, they had a right back playing left mid, a right back playing left back and a centre back playing right back. Did that cause them any problems? Not at all, because their players are taught to be comfortable on the ball and they learn good technique. If Batth can't play left or right sided centre half, then there is a serious issue with the coaching at Wolves. It is not a big shift, despite the nonsense being talked about by the other poster, most centre halves play both sides at various points in their career prior to breaking into the first team. Often they will play both sides then. Like Rio Ferdinand last season, he often played on the left side, because he tends to drop deeper than his centre back partner and so could provide cover for Evra's wanderings.}



Was it to cover evra, or because he is more experienced than smalling or jones (both right sided CBs) im not saying players shouldnt be taught to play both, but they usually arent! I play with a CB that came through the crewe academy, he allways plays left sided due to how he turns, this was bought up at the academy and they switched him to the left, him being right footed he had previously played right, but due o his own natural movements got switched, as much as you want to tell me this is rubbish, i know it isnt! N yes you turn inwards to look at you fellow cb, for line n distance, which is what i said! Positioning and movement is the single most important thing about being a CB! This is all off the ball, so no matter how technically good you are, if you dont do this well your not even going to be CB! You only have to see CB to work this out, united have jones smalling rio competing for 1 slot, vidic n evans the other, only rare occassions will this change, wolves have RJ batth n stears for 1 slot, berra n george after the other, thats how it works, no matter how much u want to believe ur right, your not, its not simple to train natural movement, ucan try n force somebody todo unnatural thngs, but that will only happen in times of need and only with experienced ppl usually (jt ateuros) {Ed001's Note - sorry but you are talking nonsense, like I said in the past, it really depends on the player. Nothing to do with experience at all, more to do with the intelligence and adaptability of the player. You have obviously never heard of total football. It is simply down to being badly coached, if a player can't play both sides. They are not trained to turn left or right, they are trained to look at their partner, normally they stand straight on, until faced with an attacker they are moving with and then their body shape will be determined by what they want to do. If they are fronting up an attacker, they will shape their body to guide him away from the goal. If they are covering, they will stay face on to the play so they can run either way quickly. I really don't know where you have got your ideas from, but your mate is clearly not a coach and has little understanding of how to play the game. But then most players don't think, they just play with no real thought about why they do things. And yes, Rio was played on the left to cover Evra, Evans was partnering him on a number of those occasions, even though you say he only plays on the left.}



Eds right terry might be right footed but he prefers the left side as he has said this himself n anyway whats the big deal im sure batth or johnson could play left side any center half should be able to most footballers now are both footed so should not be a problem n i saw something about england the reason we dont win nothing is cause we dont pass and move brooking n wilkinson have not got a clue they dont care



To the last post, iv never sed its about what footed you are, if u had read the posts u would now this..... Most of what a def does is when the ball is no where near them, so facing an attacker is only in 1 on 1 def, which is diff n i agree, in this instance it doesnt matter where you prefer to play, you push a play as far away from goal as possible (not on to the weaker foot as i saw before, as this may be a more dangerous place) n. do know football, total football has nothing to do with a players natural instict on turning and ability to do this with out thinking! JT obviously turns off his left foot, hence y he plays LCB, this would mean he turns inwards! {Ed001's Note - he turns off both feet! Jesus you really don't get the point at all.}



Anyway, im bred of this, if any1 wishes to have a wager on RJ n batth not playing together im more than happy to do this!



Turned out nice again hasn't it?



Holy moly......cant believe what i just bin readin on here.....Pro footballers now aparentley can only turn on one foot. ...Get of your high horse mate...ya bin found out......lol....utw



Would love to know how Danny Batth is another Mark Davies...



Hello ......... anybody still awake?



11 Jul 2012 19:36:31
wolves being linked to man utd player Evans again
and looking to get Dann with player swop



Evans is vidic's back up at present and played first team for united last year if he were available he would command a decent fee and would join a top 10 premier league outfit!
Completely unbelievable!
Q



Not going to happen.expect cb to come from germany



I sent Wolves an email about mancienne, i got a very nice reply syaing he is a top class player and that is what is required at Wolves. I asked if he would be signing, the second reply said they cant confirm or deny but once again stated what a good player he was and that we would always be interested in players of hi calibre.
He has also been playing at left back which makes alot of sense to me.
Regarding Danny Bahht, so many of you are going to be disapointed if you think this guy is the saviour. Im 17st and trust me i cover 10yds quicker than DB. We should get behind Johnson, give they guy a chance and lets see if he turns it round, as Jody did years ago.
Berra can go. Stears is ok. Zubar, and ward should both be took to the side and shot.
Wouldnt mind one of Stokes 300 centre halves as part of a deal with Jarvis and Fletcher.



Berra can't go he is our most consistent defender by a mile. One of the most underrated players we have



11 Jul 2012 19:31:04
sheffield wednesday to put a 750k bib for batth with the promise of first team football



If we let him go and get some rubbish from norway, we might aswell get neill collins back.



Don't think so. He will be playing next season.



Danny was part of the official mega store launch with davies.
I can assure all #wwfc fans that neither will leave this summer as both are firmly in SS plans for first team football this season



Ebanks leaving , im sure of that , with the 2 striker names that wolves bought its clear to me .



Zubar shot ? him elekobi and guedioura give 110% every game (although elekobi and zubar dont always get any luck guedioura is quality and would love to see him sign a new deal and not be flogged) get your facts right mate & danny bath would be quaity with an old center alf so he would learn alot more and improve more



I love how everyone rates Batth.
I bet none of you have ever seen him play!



Have a mate who has season tickets at wednesday went to watch batth play on 4 occasions he was commanding decisive and domineering and was mom twice.



Danny Batth is a local boy and been at the club from the age of 10 and wants to play for this football club, is it any wonder people want to see him succeed? Then on the other you have a giant dollop of dog turd like RJ who thinks he is to good for wolves and was suprised Man City and Man Utd didn't want him last summer.



11 Jul 2012 11:37:40
Ebanks-Blake signs for Leicester for 1m



?? 26 Years of age, 25 goals in last year of championship , would expect a lot more for him...unless we don't know full story (assuming your post is true)



Hope so, he has done a thing in the last 3 seasons. We can't keep being sentimental for the one and a half good seasons he gave us. Can't find this confirmed anywhere though



You sure?!



No way.



Not a chance



What goes through wolves fans heads on here. Ebanks Blake will score 20 goals minimum. OK he didnt do well in prem but not many did. whatever players put on the old gold and black shirt we shud support not slag them off!



Blake is living breathing wolves and will see at least 15-20 goals this season. he wont move



Just because they wear the shirt doesn't mean we HAVE to support them - they could be s**t!
Ebanks-Blake isn't and he only didn't perform in the Prem because he didn't play very often.



Ebanks-Cake is past it



He hardly had a fair crack in the prem to be honest. He will score a hatful back in the championship if SS gives him a chance.



Total rubbish



£1mil is about right for some1 who was not in first team for 2 years n is in last season of his contract



What a rubbish fan. who do you support the players themselves or the actual club.
get behind them good or bad.



Ebanks-Blake is Wanderers Number 9



To be honest if everybody is say sell him sell him and see him score a hattrick against us next season then you'll see why we should have kept him



Club have denied it !



Jermain Defoe aint been in the spurs team 4 a while either. doesnt mean they'd let him go on the cheap...



To all the haters ( i know theres no i in team but who singlehandedly got us inthe prem in the first place) deserves more respect than that . but if he does infact go i hope his future is a good one because he wasnt given a good chance in theprem and id like to keep him , if not see him go for 2 and a quater million pounds



11 Jul 2012 10:03:47
starting 11 ideas anybody?? comment below.



De vries
Zubar. Johnson. Berra. Ward.
Kightly Ohara Henry hunt
Doyle. Siggurdson

This is realistic atm. Until Henry Ohara etc are sold. I doubt the two will be but fletch and Jarvis are IMO gonners.
I can see a bid or two for a new cb and potentially a new left winger coming in unless zeli is given a chance then hammil will play left wing
Q



Your back 5 is a joke Doherty batth ikeme n rekord have more right to be in there n hunt naa he's useless I'd go with Gorman n Davies in the middle



Theres still a long way to go, 4 or 5 will be moved on, n 1 or 2 come in, but who knows



De vries
Doherty. Batth. Berra. Ward
Kightly. Davis. Ohara. Hammill
Doyle. Sigurdasson



GK) De Vries
RB) Doherty
LB) Ward
CB) Johnson
CB) Batth
RM) Kightly
LM) Hammill
CM) Davis
CM) Milijas
FW) Doyle
FW) Sigurdsson



Would put Batth in for Berra, new left back (real left back) is required, foley or Doherty in for Zubar. Hammill for Hunt, Geuadioura (spellcheck) and Davies could quite easily play in the centre. All saying that Stale could have 11 different names in mind and new systems, hopefully they are entertaining and successful. FWAW.



De Vries (Hennessey)
Zubar Johnson Batth New LB
Kightly O'Hara Davis Forde
Sigurdarson Doyle

Doubt fletcher or jarvis will stay even though it's looking more promising now that they want to stay.

TWOLF



Why have you put ward person he has got to go cos he is useless



I like the look at that side mate

still think theres a long way to go before we can guess the starting line up doh

Mills Wolf



GK - De Vries

DL - Ward or Reckford
DC - Stearman (Until new CB signed)
DC - Batth
DR - Zubar

ML - Forde (assuming Jarvis sold)
MC - Guedioura
MC - O'Hara
MR - Kightly

AM/FC - Sigurdarson

FC - Fletcher

Everyone seems to be leaving Fletcher out. He will not leave as nobody will match the £15 price tag.



De vries
Foley batth Johnson *new left back*
kightly Henry Ohara Jarvis
Doyle fletcher

Gone for current available players, apart from a new left back which has to be essential! There's a lot of argument for playing youngsters but I think they should be blooded in rather than thrown in, apart from batth who had really impressed on loan and Davies who I thought looked a real talent last season. Think Johnson should be given a new leaf because even if you hate him you can't deny he's a good defender, maybe putting him with youngster batth to help coach him will bring out a better and more professional display.

Also everyone (including me) has gone 442 but what about 4 5 1
Same defence;
Kites Davies Henry Jarvis
Sig
Fletcher

That would dominate most championship midfields and from what I've seen of sig he looks really good from running a bit deeper, linking up with a front man. What do you think? Any thoughts?

Either way I think that's a strong championship team, please stale just teach them to play some football!

Mikey



Ward was one of our best players last year!



No foley at right back? best defender in our squad!



Couple of posts up "£15 price tag" think u missed out 1 word somewhere



^^ That's not hard



GK-de Vries (until Hennessey recovers)
RB-Foley
CB-Berra
CB-Jansson
LB-Valgardsson (assuming Ward sold)
RW-Kightly (assuming Jarvis sold)
CM-Henry/O'Hara
LW-Aluko/Forde
AM-Björn Bergmann Sigurðarson
AM-Henriksen
ST-Doyle/Blake (assuming Fletcher sold)

If players listed are not sold then the replacements will be subs along with:
GK-Ikeme
DF-Zubar
DF-Elokobi
MF-Hammill
MF-Milijaš
ST-Doyle
ST-Blake



What would happen if henry and o hara get sold



Pierce.
Palmer.
Munro.
De Wolf.
Parkin.
Waggy.
Carr.
Bailey.
Hibbit.
Dougan.
Richards.



How did de Wolf get in the halcyon '74 team?



No Andy Gray?
The team from my younger days.

Bradshaw
Palmer
Parkin
Daniel
Hughes
Berry
Hibbitt
Carr
Grey
Richards
Eves

subs Bell, Brazier



Wheres god aka bully?



If you look again no one said it was the 74 team. willie carr not signed until a couple of years later . just the team from my era and yes bully could av been in it.



I hope we dont play under 5's teams like wenger



11 Jul 2012 05:17:21
Heard Juventos are interested in Jarvis and Fletcher....and Fray bentos like to buy our defence



You mean Juventus ? or was it spelled wrong for the purpose of the joke ? (a very bad one at that)



And it wasnt all that funny when first told in 1987



Yeah that sucked ass mate, dont give up your day job and become a stand up what ever you do

Mills wolf



11 Jul 2012 00:14:40
Its now 2 days until we can officially call sigurdarson a wolverhampton wanderers player, yippppeee:)



Might be a bit longer than 2 days cause he's allowed to leave lillestrom to talk to wolves on the 13th July but he still needs to agree personal terms and a fitness test.

TWOLF



He's already agreed personal terms all that's left is to sign on the dotted line.
Q



Both half right , just the medical.That was the problem if he got injured. but he is not so he is ll but a Wolves player.



 
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