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20 Jun 2025 10:21:23
Leeds now looking at Hugo Bueno.
My opinion, Do one haha
1.) 21 Jun 2025 09:11:20
Hugo Bueno is a star in the making, Wolves through and through and more than worthy of replacing AN in my opinion. Should definitely NOT be sold or loaned out.
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18 Jun 2025 11:15:17
Do you think we will get Guessand and do you think he would be worth it? I'm being hopeful as I think he'd be a great addition to our club
1.) 18 Jun 2025 13:18:35
Stretch5 I think he would be a good addition but it depends how much they want. Considering Fernerbache offered 25mill plus 5mill in add ons was turned down so your talking maybe 30mill plus 5 mill add ons. Me I don't see what the problem is pay in installments over 3 seasons only costing over 11mill per season if Nice except deal done.
2.) 18 Jun 2025 13:32:09
If you see shada's post below stretch, muirinho and fenerbache are trying to hijack any deal, upping the price, as shada says we've pussyfooted before and missed out, but I rather think we have a budget and stick to it so maybe he won't be arriving.
3.) 18 Jun 2025 14:02:39
At Euro 30m he looks like he would be a very good purchase - see earlier post for my views on him
However we have very limited funds and have spent over £40m so far on JSL and Lopez. That doesn't leave a huge amount - obviously only the club knows exactly how much but I doubt much more than £100m - given the scale of the rebuild required.
However for me improving our front 3 is the most important task facing us. Given that Lopez is potentially a bench player this year, (Celta Vigo had picked him once - yes ONCE! - for their first team plus a dozen or so sub appearances and he is 22 this year, which presumably means that either he is a very modest player or they have had a "Damascene conversion" regarding his abilities. Guess Wolves showing interest might do that though I imagine!), then signing a starter or two in that area is pretty high on my list of priorities.
I therefore hope we do sign him but clearly if his price rises we simply may not be able to afford him.
That is sadly the reality of being a v poorly run club who are therefore financially weak and who, (probably for related reasons), are subsequently forced to sell players at disappointingly low fees.
4.) 18 Jun 2025 16:40:57
Tfg I understand what your saying but it's on installments over so many years Wolves have sold near 100mill and your telling Wolves can't spend money.if that's true ware is all the money going we have sold 100mill in transfers we gave got Lopez in for over 20mill to spread the payments over so many years.
5.) 18 Jun 2025 17:16:21
Shada we don't sell players to buy new ones but to cover our operating losses.
Where the money goes is of course a mystery, as it doesn't go to the players, but if you look at the accounts, before selling players, we lost
just over £240m in the last 3 seasons.
For comparison on the same basis
Brighton lost less than £80m, Brentford £7m, Palace £86m and even tiny Bournemouth only £156m.
We are therefore dwarfed financially by these clubs that I previously would have regarded as below us.
It also explains why we get such bad prices for our players as sadly we are a forced seller. Unlike most clubs, who only sell when it suits them, we have to sell to avoid PSR and everyone knows this.
We are therefore a price taker not a price maker.
Think you are selling your house to move into rented accommodation as the bank has sent foreclosure notices to you. To avoid losing the house entirely you have therefore contacted one of those "we buy any house" companies and they obviously offer well under a fair price but you sadly have to take it - that is Wolves under Jeff!
6.) 18 Jun 2025 20:06:17
TFIOG, I just don't understand where you get your facts from. Fer Lopez was involved in 20 matchday squads last season. 7 starts. 10 subs appearances and 3 games when he didn't get onto the pitch.
7.) 18 Jun 2025 22:08:41
Same place as you I imagine.
3 of those were not league games.
In his 17 league games he only played 90 minutes once.
He was subbed on or off every other game.
His total minutes as stated previously are well under 700.
8.) 18 Jun 2025 22:44:50
Again you've got it wrong.
League games started = 7
League games subbed on = 10
League games in squad but no used = 3
Copa Del Rey games = 3 sub appearances.
I got my info from Transfermrkt so everyone can see for themselves.
Just confirm where your info came from so people can check for themselves.
9.) 18 Jun 2025 22:54:03
And if you go to the Official La Liga site and select Celta Vigo, it also shows that he started 7 games. But fair play, you are correct in that he only completed 90 minutes on one occasion.
10.) 19 Jun 2025 02:18:06
As you have confirmed my info, which as you say you can see on Transfermarket, is correct I am not sure what point you are trying to make?
To make it easy for you if you only play 90 minutes once then in the other games you are either subbed on or off exactly as I stated.
What is difficult about this?
11.) 19 Jun 2025 06:06:03
This is what you wrote:
Celta Vigo had picked him once - yes ONCE! - for their first team plus a dozen or so sub appearances and he is 22 this year,
When I fact they picked him 7 times. See the difference.
It's like the time when you said Wolves accounts were different from the ones they submitted to HMRC.
12.) 19 Jun 2025 06:10:58
TFIOG, you have got to be one of, if not the most negative Wolves fan. Every signing seems to be cheap and penny pinching. Ever sale is because we're struggling financially. If Fer Lopez (who you've already written off) is a success, who takes the credit? If we finish in the upper echelons of the table, will Jeff get any credit for bringing in VP?
13.) 19 Jun 2025 09:58:41
Interesting football news story here with an unusual point of view: Brentford and Bournemouth made the 'mistake' of winning more PL matches last season than they did previously! While it doesn't mention Wolves, it does clearly allude to the problems that relative success brings, i.e. your star players will be poached:
14.) 19 Jun 2025 10:09:16
What are your thoughts on Pablo Sarabia? Using your own theory, he can't be any good as he didn't complete a full 90 minutes at all last season in his 28 games. So he was used zero, yes ZERO times last season.
15.) 19 Jun 2025 10:28:36
Wandering I have to give you that one. In my later post I clarified one full appearance but I accept that in my first post, for the sake of brevity, I did allow ambiguity to creep in which you spotted.
Does it change the point though? You don't accept he is inexperienced and you are, as you are in virtually all your posts, wrong!
Re your second point that is nonsense. We had a very long discussion over the accounts which you, and there is no shame here as accounts are complex, totally misunderstood.
I only ever pointed you to the official accounts on the GovUK web site, these are the ones HMRC use.
Re your second post. I AM a Wolves fan and praise good moves, see my post on the signing of Andre and the possible signing of Guessand etc etc. But unlike you I do not praise actions that either do hurt the team or are inappropriately balanced vis a vis risk reward.
Now it could be you don't understand the difference? As in you don't seem to understand that its not good going from 7th to 16th or, (and I hate to mention accounts again), its not good losing money hand over fist so that we have to sell our best players every year, perhaps that is why we have dropped down the league maybe?
Or as I suspect you don't care?
If you are a Wolves fan why aren't you - like me - angry at how Jeff, since Seville, has hurt Wolves. This is either due to his incompetence or as a result of a new, (and misguided) policy from Fosun that foolishly believes the model of buying and selling talent leads to anything other than a steady decline - see last few years for evidence!
Either way why aren't you unhappy with the evolution of the club since Seville?
16.) 19 Jun 2025 11:16:47
That is interesting Deep, although we didn't win as many games as either of them and our star players have already been poached so not sure that tracks to be honest.
Wandering as I've said previously this is a forum, the very nature of a forum should SURELY be to discuss different viewpoints?! You may feel someone is negative (usually me:) but they would say it's realistic and not sure why your take on that should be more valid than there's?! We have lost a LOT of good posters on this forum (Phil and Jas both spring to mind) and that was largely because of the devisive rhetoric. So instead of calling someone negative would it not make sense to just debate their position instead?! Personally I've always enjoyed TFGs take and feel it offers something different and usually very well informed. I really don't understand why people on here just seem to want everyone to have the same opinion and just tow Jeff's company lines?! Do we want a forum or an echo chamber buddy?! Cause frankly an echo chamber is entirely pointless and somewhat tedious, I know what I think about something and re-reading that ten times over would be VERY dull! What I want to read is how and why someone else thinks/feels differently, I may not agree but at least that's interesting to read! ?
17.) 19 Jun 2025 11:32:58
Wandering - apologies if I have over stepped the mark. If you are a Wolves fan I have to take my hat off to you for your loyalty to Jeff and the club. They are very lucky to have such supportive fans.
Re Sarabia - My view, was pretty much the same as Vitor's. He was not a first 11 player, but was merely a squad player who played a few minutes here and there - I see Trasfermarket has him playing just over 800 minutes over the season.
I actually think he was a very talented player but just not suited to the physical nature of the league. Given the low cost - low transfer fee, albeit with high wages. - he was an acceptable risk that didn't really come off - albeit with some magic moments that reflected his undoubted underlying talent.
18.) 19 Jun 2025 11:39:40
Addendum - Sarabia's cost despite the low fee was not that low as his wages were indeed high. However I imagine we expected much more from him and given his record to the point we bought him I guess that was fair. Sorry I can't recall my view at the time he was bought.
Clearly in retrospect it was not, in my and Vitor's view, (he didn't pick him other than as you say a few minutes here and there despite the paucity of options available), a good deal and he has moved on
19.) 19 Jun 2025 12:05:03
TFIOG, I don't doubt that you are a Wolves fans like me. My issue on this occasion is that the club finished 16th last season WITH AIT and Cunha. They happen to be 2 of our most saleable assets.
Cunha would only sign the new contract IF a release clause was inserted, otherwise he may have allowed his contract to run down (like Adama) and we lose him for NOTHING or for the value of the remainder of his contract.
In the case of AIT, yes the fee is low but he did have one year left on his contract. Yes we had the option to extend it for a further 12 months on the same terms but this would need to players agreement too. Man City have offered him £80k per week whereas he was on £30k a week at Molineux. So it made sense for him to want to move to Man City.
Now the big issue for me is how we spend the money. If the money from these 2 sales alone is used to buy 4 players, then this will make our squad stronger.
I get that we need experienced players but then you read just yesterday the likes of Stan Collymore saying that players now are overpriced and the specfic player he mentioned was Harvey Elliot who Liverpool want £40m for. Stan went on to say why would Wolves want to pay £40m for a player who spends most of his time injured and that £20m would be a more realistic price. Fer Lopez may be inexperienced at the higher levels but then the issue becomes, if he was experienced, would he still cost £20m or would his value soar?
Yes, it's a gamble and Fabio Silva is a very good example of how wrong it can go, but then we have Boly, Doc, Jota, Neves, Kilman, Cunha, AIT, Joao Gomes and Andre of risks taken on unknown players who we took a risk on and became a success.
I don't agree with everything Jeff Shi does but I feel that the last day of last season should have been the moment to draw a lne in the sand.
He has admitted that changes were needed and he has began to make those changes. let's see if his plans work and we improve. But for me, more importantly, let's get behind any new signings rather than writing them off.
20.) 20 Jun 2025 12:12:43
As much as I agree with your last paragraph Wandering I also understand with the criticism's, actually not criticism's statements of fact posted by TFIOG, Bully's and on occasion myself.
I think we all want to see a line drawn in the sand, the changes on the football management side to have a positive effect and for Wolves to return to, at least, the top half of the table where I believe we should be.
Given the ludicrous scenarios that have occurred in recent years at the club, as TFIOG put's it, post Seville, it was music to my ears to hear that 'the penny had dropped' with Fosun. My question is still really how far has it dropped?
Are we just going to see a relaxation of the transfer reigns in the Summer window to avoid the familiar disastrous starts to the season, p**s off the Manager, then have to spend anyway in the Winter window to dig us out of a hole? Or, are Fosun planning to really invest in the Club, turning their attention to the income side, ground expansion, sponsorships, etc, as well?
It's clear to me why they enforced the buy to sell policy but it's proven, as predicted by some of us, to be an extremely ill advised strategy, for the Club, but almost for them as well.
Personally, I'm happy to wait and see what this window brings and have adjusted my thinking beyond the loss of Cunha and RAN. I actually see the signing of Fer Lopez as a positive first step, experienced or not and I am hoping that we come out of this with a stronger overall team, less reliant on the abilities of just one or two players.
However, that is just the first step for me because as the former Treasurer of a football club and the Chairman of a Motorsport club I learned pretty early on that unless you continuously improve your facilities you'll suffer. Standing still is actually going backwards.
31 Jan 2025 23:16:57
Should chant get danso in and stop around tomorrow, this back and forward is a joke
1.) 01 Feb 2025 10:39:24
Good morning All - EDS anything you could shed light on regarding transfers the Danso to Juve has taken a bizarre twist Again! Are there other targets in the offing will Lemina leave ….: two days of the window left after today and we are all still left wondering?
23 Jan 2025 08:43:53
If we were able to keep RAN and Cunha this window, we need to get a new LB and push RAN forward more to link with Cunha to be able to get better service to Larsen
1.) 23 Jan 2025 10:48:54
I've seen this suggestion before and to be honest I don't really understand it. His distribution is VERY average as is his positional awareness! If you put him in the hole I suspect it will basically be like playing with 10 men, so not entirely different from having Chan on the pitch I suppose ?
2.) 23 Jan 2025 12:35:26
I’d tend to agree with Stretch5, RAN is a better player going forward so utilise his ability better.
He may need to brush up on his skills, as you say BullysBoy II, but better than him suffering in a position he’s not comfortable with.
3.) 23 Jan 2025 14:17:49
I appreciate that we need cover in certain positions but I'm not convinced that it will address all our problems as we seem disjointed throughout the team. I'm not sure that GON ever got the best out of this squad and I am unsure that Vitor is doing any better. I'm not professing to know what the answer is but do feel that a nuts and bolts review of the club is required from top to bottom if we are to see any consistent improvement.
4.) 23 Jan 2025 17:06:07
I just don't see it, he's hardly Trent is he. Yes he can get past a defender but his passing and crossing need a LOT of work! He's a decent LWB when you have three decent (and quick) CBs behind him, as has been proven before. As always our biggest problem is a lack of balance in the squad, playing even more players out of position won't solve that. We need to do the same thing we needed to do the day after Kilman left, sign a Prem ready CB! ?
26 Jul 2023 08:47:59
So being that every 5 minutes it changes from "wolves keen on signing £20m player" to "wolves have no money" what does everyone think will happen. Do you think we will sign anyone over the value of £5m or is it going to be a very long hard season again.
1.) 26 Jul 2023 09:55:48
Alot of the reported bids and offers are purely tittle tattle from the media filling spaces. No one seems to know or understand the FFP side of things. The only thing to go on is the JL interview. It was cold and open, an impression of his reality. The Alex scott business I personally believe to be true, but that seems scuppered if we belive the latest reports. We've got players who I also believe can compete in the prem, not with big 6 but definitely mid table, with JL's stewardship, and there lies the biggest concern, will he stay the course?. His reputation suggests he jump ship, the circumstances aren't what he signed up to, how he was sold a lie I don't know, but if he was then it means Fosun can't be trusted and that really spells the end if true. Back to FFP, we havnt been punished have we? There's no transfer embargo upon us, so treading the financial mine field I'd have thought we could still make reasonable acquisitions and generate enough to cover sensible outlay next year. If JL is to seriously compete this season he'll need a couple or so class players, I hope we may see some incomings yet and we can put concerns to bed. Whatever, Fosun are taking us fans for granted in their silence, we are surely deserving of some sort of explanation and reassurance. They expect us to turn out in Dublin, to fill molineux every week and purchase the merchandise it's about time they stopped abusing our loyalty and told us what we're buying into this year.
2.) 26 Jul 2023 10:02:39
It's hard to say. JL's comments yesterday were interesting. Is it smoke and mirrors? Are the finances as bad as we're being told? Are expectations from the fan base trying to be reigned in?
I can see one or two players coming in for modest fees, but not to the level of recent windows.
The issue is the club has to generate more revenues to compete with transfers and wages in the Premier League. It seems now clubs even in the bottom half are expected to outlay over £100 million each year on players to remain competitive and this simply isn't sustainable for a club the size of Wolves. Especially if the transfers don't work out.
The owners can't magically put money into the squad as it isn't allowed with FFP but they can invest in infrastructure. This is where the board have to make a call. Are they going to invest beyond the other ventures they're trying to grow revenues or not? If not then our time in the PL will become more difficult in the future. If they are then great, but it won't happen over night.
I can understand why they held off the ground expansion over the last few years, but it is becoming a problem now. It would be good to hear an update from the club on this. Do they still feel the costs are not feasible? Is the local council or university causing a problem with land ownership and planning permission? Are Fosun simply not in a position to invest in it?
Fosun have been good custodians for the club and other owners still couldn't immediately address the FFP issues. I think we do need to hear something from the owners about the long term plans for the club based on how the landscape within the club and globally has changed in the past few years.
3.) 26 Jul 2023 11:45:11
Cant see any money being spent.as we still need to sell!. need to focus on decent loans or frees.thers quality free players available such as traore.not ideal.but possibly the only option.i can see j lop walking away before kick.off if nothing is done
4.) 26 Jul 2023 12:37:27
Logic tells me that every word from JL is true. I'm pretty sure if he'd known how tight finances were going to be he wouldn't have spent 44m on Cunha. Maybe that could have been used more wisely! Good player but it could have been better spent.
5.) 26 Jul 2023 14:05:27
Much, much better, Ken.One of a number of ridiculously over the odds purchases (Guedes, Silva, Cutrone, Nunes- probably in that order)when it's possible to get real value for money if you work at it (Dawson, Lemina, probably Gomes).The pigeons have well and truly come home to roost.
6.) 26 Jul 2023 20:42:21
Talking of over the odds signings shouldn't Cundha be in that category? Can't figure out what his position is, is he a striker or midfield?
7.) 26 Jul 2023 22:16:54
Indeed Ray;Ken mentioned him and I added a few others.
06 Jun 2025 07:58:07
looks like another window of selling all of our good players again.
Lets see if we actually get anyone decent back in though
05 Jun 2025 18:40:43
I’d like to see this happen! Think he’d be a great signing
04 Jun 2025 13:05:46
Need to do a swap deal for Mcatee
28 Jan 2025 07:59:39
I'd say anywhere between £22-£25million would be a good deal.
Will bring a lot of strength to the back line and hopefully help against set pieces. If we were to get him in then we'd just need some sort of mid/forward and done
28 Aug 2024 07:55:02
personally I would go for Ramsdale, no benefit to getting someone the same age and similar skill level.
We could still get some return on Ramsdale in the future and looks more promising.
31 Jan 2025 09:33:29
fully agree. If we don't get Kevin Danso (which I don't think we will) then the owners need to leave instantly. Been going on too long now, every transfer we look at, it goes back and forward with stupid bids for ages then we lose out to another club and then get someone useless in on deadline day. Always leaving it to the last minute. They knew what he was worth so the first bid should have been £20 million then up it if needed or loan option with buy straight away.
26 Jan 2025 08:31:31
Full agree, his first game he had a few stray passes but you need time to adapt. Definitely looking like a promising player. Just need a clone of him and a defensive midfielder, then we’d be sorted