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02 Aug 2023 19:23:40
Rumour that Nunes is attracting interest from Psg.
I would keep him as I still think there's a player there.
But could be two players with FFP over us.
1.) 02 Aug 2023 20:29:22
It only counts for two if we actually get to spend any of it, no danger of that so far! ?
2.) 02 Aug 2023 21:31:38
No truth in rumour about PSG and Nunes, but far fetched that one!
3.) 03 Aug 2023 09:38:41
PSG's head of recruitment (Luis Campos) is Portuguese. They're apparently on the brink of bringing in Goncalo Ramos from Benfica, who would join fellow countrymen Danilo, Nuno Mendes, Renato Sanches (tho he might be heading out) and Vitinha (remember him). Would Nunes be a realistic target for them. maybe
4.) 03 Aug 2023 11:28:59
Could be something in it SBF - £60m please, then we can have Elvedi, Scott (if not already gone to Bournemouth) and Hugo Ekitike (all ready at PSG) and/or Kamaldeen Sulemana - he is quick!
5.) 03 Aug 2023 15:25:04
Sell and buy 2-3.
6.) 03 Aug 2023 16:48:15
No truth I'm afraid, said to be a misprint that got out of hand. Abit like someone on here thinking Liverpool wanted lamina instead of Lavia from Southampton.
7.) 03 Aug 2023 18:18:28
Good. We don’t want them buying any Wolves player if it’s on the Jota terms.
8.) 03 Aug 2023 20:13:09
The 'Jota terms' are standard procedure for sales these days. Unless your buying for someone for their release fees (where it often had to be paid in full) then all payments are staggered in such ways as it helps both clubs ?
9.) 03 Aug 2023 22:42:11
Were be starting prem no manager he's not happy at all
10.) 04 Aug 2023 03:05:06
I think Shi should GO and Fosun should bring in someone who knows what football is.
11.) 04 Aug 2023 10:41:18
Totally agree he has done nothing but prove he is out of his depth and was easily led by Mendes to put us in the same financial mess he got the Chinese owner of Valencia into.
Guangchang this is a massive mistake you have made and it will affect the value of the club regardless of the fire sale to improve the balance sheet. A club devalues automatically he gets relegated
12.) 04 Aug 2023 12:54:40
They saying now we're going for spurs defender plus midfielder could cost £25 mil plus and they say we haven't got money this is nothing to do with ffp it's to do with their investment and they want money back in their pockets it all stinks out fosun
02 Aug 2023 19:22:33
Third bid for Alex Scott.
Personally feel he is worth £25m as long as wages fit into our new streamlined wage budget.
Could be worth £100m + in 3 years time.
1.) 03 Aug 2023 10:01:25
Have we got 25m? Seems we're offering IOU's and fortune cookies
16 Aug 2021 12:36:24
Diawara linked from Roma.
That would be a tidy buy and give our midfield more flexibility.
1.) 16 Aug 2021 13:50:48
He is reported as not wanting to come. Don't want another Cutrone and Mir.
2.) 16 Aug 2021 15:03:42
Bruno said {Sic: Rafa Mir} "I need to talk to the player. I need to feel if he has the ambition and motivation to play for us and belong to our pack. To wear our jersey. If he feels that, it’s welcome, if not we need to find a solution for him and also for us.
We can be here working hard, talking about offensive and defensive strategies, but the basic is to have ambition and motivation to be better every day as a player and also to help the club and team be better every day"
So can't see him wanting to go for Diawara if he has no interest in coming.
3.) 16 Aug 2021 17:17:52
I don't know how true those rumours are tbf. some say wolves are lining up an offer of 15 mil and other reports have us asking for a one year loan. It would be great to have him, but I don't think his heart is playing in the molineux.
4.) 16 Aug 2021 21:09:14
Its a rumour lads none of us know the ins and outs of the deal.
Other players linked-
Oliveira from Porto
Ruben semedo from Olympiacos
Looks like they are in 4th gear now.
21 Jun 2021 10:00:31
Benfica's Gonçalo Ramos is also reportedly on Wolves' radar this summer. The 19-year-old striker has a whopping €120million release clause, despite only playing 93 minutes in the Portuguese top flight last term, and is believed to have interest from England.
O Jogo (via Sport Witness) claims Wolves are one of the interested clubs but adds that Ramos won't command a fee close to his release clause.
Ramos has primarily played for Benfica's B team over the past two seasons but he has scored four times for the senior team. He's well known to new Wolves boss Lage, who coached in Benfica's youth set-up before stepping up to first team level in 2019.
Lage wants 'new Ronaldo'
In addition to Ramos Wolves have been linked with Brazilian centre-forward Kaio Jorge, who is also just 19.
The Santos striker has been likened to Brazilian icon Ronaldo and scored four times in 28 league games last season.
A Bola claims Lage is an admirer of Jorge and that Wolves have 'already made a formal proposal in the region of €15million' to sign him.
Jorge has been linked with Arsenal and Chelsea in the past and looks set to move to Europe at some stage in the near future.
Tasty more attacking players.
1.) 21 Jun 2021 12:54:07
With all these teenagers linked to us, are we going to have a creche at the Mol? Maybe we will have Mothercare as our new shirt sponsor?
Come on Bruno, we need age and experience as well.
2.) 21 Jun 2021 13:55:22
Madman and Deep - I mentioned the Brazilian kid yesterday and he certainly seems to have some pedigree scoring a good few goals for Santos in Brazillian senior football. But of course we do need to balance out the squad.
At the rumoured €15m he is not cheap - although a screaming bargain compared to Silva who, despite a season in the Prem is frankly still an unproven kid - and we presumably have a limited budget. So far from certain that we can be splashing too much cash on ones for the future rather than ready to play hardened pros.
Consequently I m pretty sure we shouldn't buy both of these chaps - although of course the Portuguese lad's release fee of €120m is irrelevant I can say my house is only for sale at £25m but it doesn't mean I have will a line of buyers outside the door or that its even worth £2.5m.
I don't know the Portuguese kid at all but it would be interesting to know how he is viewed in Portugal compared to Silva as they are similar ish in age?
Given like Silva he has minimal experience I would hope that if we do buy him we structure the tranfer differently this time and don't pay more than a nominal sum up front with (potentially substantial) add ons for actual performance.
Although with the precedent already set it will be hard I would also hope that we pay wages in line with his experience and don't make him one of the highest earners in the squad as we did with Silva undoubtedly causing significant problems in the dressing room - Can you blame Traore for being unhappy when a lad not fit to clean his shoes let alone lace them is paid almost double what he is?
3.) 21 Jun 2021 14:12:52
Wonder who scored the most goals and had the most assists per minutes played.
4.) 21 Jun 2021 14:14:55
Future, when Mad Mick made his new signing, Roger Johnson, captain, that was the start of a terrible season resulting in relegation. The dressing room unity was well and truly upended. Johnson was not worthy of displacing the previous captain Karl Henry in seniority and wages. In the same way, paying big wages to a rookie kid now will lead to problems.
5.) 21 Jun 2021 14:21:47
Fabio Silva isn't on more than Traore. That's just stirring the pot with that nonsense. Where's the proof? Traore had niggly injuries all season and couldn't be relied on. The team got 4 results together with Sheff Utd and Fulham now he's world class again. I'd sell for 40m.
Disagree the club have brought good youngsters since the championship to see if they can develop and supplement the 1st team if sold. For example we sold Goncalves, signed Rafa Mir, Neto, Jordao, Shabani, Vitinha and Fabio Silva. All for sums between £1.5-£35. The club chases young players to improve the standards throughout the club.
In terms of experienced players it's difficult. We have chased numerous players the last few years including Zinchenko, Maitland-Niles, Ruben Dias and a host of others.
The difficulty has been that the wolves squad was playing very good football so who would you push out the squad before the 2020/ 21 season? As a player you'd look and think I have no chance of breaking into that squad. On the flip side Wolves struggled to sell Wolverhampton to Zinchenko. Maitland - Niles wants to play as a midfielder. And Benfica probably wanted more than we were willing to pay for Dias. Plus City came in for him.
6.) 22 Jun 2021 07:20:40
Hi,
Thefutureisoldgold is correct in Silva is paid more than Traore.
I looked on google wolves players earnings.
Mouthino and Patricio the 2 highest paid £5.2 million (a year) and surprisingly Silva is the third highest paid at the club on £4.16 million.
7.) 22 Jun 2021 07:30:18
I wouldn't trust those sites Phil mate. Some of them say Silva earns £80k a week, another says £43k and another says £10k.
8.) 22 Jun 2021 08:14:48
Cheers Jas. ðŸ‘.
9.) 22 Jun 2021 11:04:05
All - Unless you have seen the pay slips you don't know for certain but whilst as Jas says various web sites have different levels the majority seem to indicate that he is the 3rd highest paid on between 80 and 90 a week with Traore on something like 50 a week.
Logic would indicate that this, Silva's wage, is likely to be correct. If you buy a player for £35m ie superstar transfer fee you don't put them on the same money as Owen, (circa 10k per week) even if they are a similar age and tragically, as it turned out, a similar stage of development. They go on a superstar wage, which at Wolves would be the 80 -90k a week level (slightly more than Semedo who I believe is the next highest paid - logical again given his transfer fee.
10.) 22 Jun 2021 11:27:18
I remember reading on one site matt Doherty was on 12,000 Sterling per week, that was two seasons ago. That is championship money.
11.) 22 Jun 2021 12:01:46
Tbf that's like any work place though. An employee from 20 years ago might have a better pension scheme. But the new grad might start on £12k more a year than when the experienced member of staff started due to inflation, qualifications etc etc. Traore was unknown and hadn't really proved himself anywhere. So 50k a week for a risk was right.
To attract one of the best wonder kids in Europe you will have to pay real Madrid salaries.
The difference is Traore was slumming it up in Middlesborough. Whilst Fabio was being nurtured and technically cultured in Porto.
12.) 22 Jun 2021 12:06:54
I would just also point out that Traore is ONLY still on that wage cause he won't sign a new contract! The club have been trying to renew since before Fabio arrived (I suspect for-seeing this problem) . If he won't sign a new contract then he can hardly complain about the terms on his old one!
13.) 22 Jun 2021 12:36:20
BB - guess it depends on what he is being offered. It might - don't know - but might also refelct his concerns as to where we as a team are going and his role in that journey.
Madman - spot on! The tragedy is that on the evidence to date he is probably not one of the best kids in Wolverhampton let alone Europe.
14.) 22 Jun 2021 12:37:27
Exactly Bullyboy. Where's the loyalty? We are the club that gave him a 2nd chance in the prem. Took him to a European qf, FA Cup semi final and the Spanish squad. Did any of his previous clubs do that?
15.) 22 Jun 2021 13:53:32
Future-of course you are correct and it could be either of those reasons (low offer or not convinced on the project) . But sometimes the obvious answer is the right answer and I suspect the problem actually is that he wants to play for a top four club! In fact like most players of his calibre (originally a Barce protégé) I suspect he's always been driven back towards that goal. I think it's easy to let everyone assume that he's not signing cause the club aren't doing enough when the truth is we have always just been a step along the way for him, just like we were for Jota. Not blaming the players, it is what it is when you sign high calibre players. But that doesn't mean its the clubs fault either ðŸ‘.
16.) 22 Jun 2021 14:40:44
BB - good post and of course agree. Secret for us then is to try and get the team and all our players further along that road until we are so close there is no point in moving ie we are a top 4 team!
As an example I'd like all public schools to close because state schools are so good no one would spend 20k a year to go elsewhere!
It will always be a compromise how long we can hold a player that is improving - can we improve alongside them so that the team is the right level for them. Can we build fast enough!
Until last summer surely no one could complain and I really believe Jota left on our terms not his but sadly as we have discussed till its boring the upward trajectory stalled and maybe Neves and Traore (and if he was fit Neto) now don't have the same degree of faith and are more easily swayed by other options.
17.) 22 Jun 2021 20:54:16
Yep agreed Future, the only way to get a seat at the top table is to earn it! But me thinks that takes a few more Adamas yet!
Just think of some of the talent Lec have lost just to get to where they are today, which is still only on the reserves list for the top four.
I know you know this Future, but (just saying:) it's a marathon not a sprint ðŸº.
18.) 22 Jun 2021 21:29:22
BB - can't disagree it will be incredibly hard, indeed (given the huge disparity in money at the moment and seemingly for the foreseeable) it may be nigh on impossible.
As you identify with Leicester no matter how many Adama's you have you can't bridge it simply by selling players but you must also buy v v well and develop a talent pipeline through your youth program. Even then as you say it does indeed take time and being patient is v v hard.
You must also make virtually no mistakes in the market neither sellling too early / cheap nor buying duds
However what we also need to do far far better though is develop the brand, especially overseas, so that the cash disparity declines.
Despite being v succesful on the pitch during the Nuno era our commercial revenues stubbornly refuse to grow.
I Did a post comparing our finances to Everton's the other week (when both clubs issued accounts) and although gate and TV money, due to our European run and league success, were v similar the commercial revenues were not only massively better at Everton but the gap was increasing!
Maybe Shi needs to stay away from the football side - wHere he appears to be clueless and focus on the commercial side where his performance to date has been woeful.
19.) 22 Jun 2021 23:00:44
So you want Jeff Shi to basically leave the club? The same Jeff Shi who convinced Jota, Patricio, Boly, Mouthinho, Jimenez, and Neto to sacrifice European football to join our project. Or the Jeff Shi who oversaw our biggest ever shirt and sponsorship deal and oversaw our growth in China. I mean, its not like a multi billion pound company have just plucked him out of the air. He is there for a reason, that reason being that he is good at what he does.
20.) 23 Jun 2021 10:51:09
The Future. Interesting post. I think there is some confusion over who is responsible for signings, investment and commercial revenue.
The fact remains we are still behind Everton, Leicester and West Ham commercially. There are many reasons for that but to even be saying we are trying to compete above that shows the inroads wolves have made over the past 4 years. The fact remains that we need European football as the bare minimum every year to close the gap on the top clubs in the league.
Now Jeff isn't in control of everything he is more like a puppet master. Overseeing every department and when each member of the team ask for investment or a change then that is made. Mendes is a close friend and advises which players are available and will work with the manager and Scott Sellars on players. Mendes is key as he knows when contracts end, when players are unhappy and which clubs need to sell and which clubs are ready to buy.
Scott is Tharyples replacement in my opinion. And a good one when you think he has developed Otawosie, Morgan Gibbs White, Goncalves, Burr and Sanderson. And due to his links at Man City was responsible for signing the young English goalie and Matheson in previous Windows.
It's also right to question Fosun, Jeff and Mendes. However the club was a shell when they took over. We had a proud tradition of being a championship team for the past 30 years. Albeit Jeff is responsible for closing the commercial revenue gap with those clubs I mentioned. Adding £200 per season ticket is one way. But the club did do things rather cheap over the 4 years under Nuno when you think 3 Europa group stage matches for £60 was one deal. Even home tickets in the corner were £25. Which is cheap when compared to Leicester, West Ham, Everton and Newcastle. For the football the club was offering.
21.) 24 Jun 2021 13:50:24
I wrote a lengthy response to these last 2 emails yesterday but somewhow it doesn't seem to have made it onto the site
so in summary
Madman good post
Jas I will paraphrase what I wrote then.
I want Wolves to do well - anything or anyone that hinders that progress should go and Fosun undoubtedly will think the same - they are after all a multi billion dollar conglomerate. If he continues to underperform he will be gone!
But has he underperformed
Specifically
1) Clueless on Football: He is an engineer from Shanghai who has worked in businesses in China that have nothing to do with football until he came here. He has no football background of any sort so it would be amazing if he wasnt clueless But the evidence is reasonably clear. Until last summer he seemingly had minimal involvement in recruitment, ( so I don't give him the degree of credit you do for the succesful transfers before he got involved) but but by his own admission, after key people left the club, he stepped up his involvement. This directly coincided with a major downturn in the succes or otherwise of recruitment - unless of course you agree with his embarrassing statement that Silva is a world class (i think he said number 1) 18 year old!
2) Re commercial activities the accounts of Wolves and the other clubs are available on the internet. You can point to the increase in commercial revenue from when we were a Championship club and you might believe that the current performance is acceptable or even good. But I don't, (although I accept woeful was harsh) . On the pitch Wolves have outperformed all bar the big 6 over the 3 year period, ( yes including Leicester whose trophies bracket our 3 year period), to Summer 2020 - the last accounts available - with a Euro quarter final an FA semi final and 2 7th places. Yet we remain stubbornly midtable in commercial revenues.
Am I being too aggressive and expecting Rome to be built in a day?
Maybe but this performance is impacting on the performance on the pitch and given as you say our obvious advantages with Fosun in China it is not anything to write home about!
Jas I totally understand your unwavering loyalty to the club and fully respect you for it but Shi is not the club merely an employee of it amd Wolves were a great club before he arrived and will still be after/ when he is gone.
22.) 24 Jun 2021 13:51:37
Madman - v good post.
Jas I want Wolves to do well and anything that hinders that progress should be removed so if Jeff continues to underperform yes he should go but it won't be me that pulls the trigger it will be Fosun who don't remain a multi billion pound company by allowing underperforming executives to stay in their posts.
Shi is merely an employee of Wolves, (and thus Fosun), who were a great side before he came and will be again after he has left. Wolves, Shi and Fosun are all connected but separate things and need to be viewed as such.
The million dollar q though is has Shi underperformed.
Madman has commented on the 2 issues above.
Whilst none of us know for sure it seems to me that Shi had little, (or at least less), to do with the recruitment process before last summer, a period that as you say was massively successful, and was, by his own admission, more involved - following the loss of Thelwell and others - during the transfer window last summer - which although you may disagree is now widely regarded as far less successful.
Re Commercial activities the numbers tell the story and you can look them up. Yes we have increased revenues from where we were as a Championship side but sadly remain stubbornly in the middle of the pack despite sensational performances on the pitch - Euro quarter finals, cup semi finals and 2 7th places far outstripping all bar the traditional big 6 including arguably even Leicester whose two trophies bracket our good years.
Should it be better? Well again that is a matter of opinion but until it is, getting closer to our rivals in and out of the so called big 6 will remain incredibly difficult as we simply don't have the money to compete in the transfer market or on wages.
ps this can't be done by increasing ticket prices Madman but must be done by increasing other commercial activities/ sponsors/ advertising etc etc.
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29 Aug 2021 20:20:18
Well that's the 3 games gone before the transfer window closes.
Signing Kwang gives us a good option as he is similar to Jota in that he links midfield and attack and can play any forward position.
Caleta-Car didn't play for Marseille today. 👀
Guessing Botman may decide to stay (as he played today) as Lille have champions league football.
Can't help but think a cm and striker is still needed.
Is Carlos Vinicus still available? Surely the best option as he ha splayed under bruno and scored 25 goals. Sure he coukd go for european football but he may just sit on the bench.
51 hours and counting.
05 Aug 2021 18:22:01
Everybody nervous?
Personally watching the Villas deals. The signings of Buendia and Bailey are risky. Neither are proven in the prem. Bailey has moved from a different country.
Ings is a funny one. He is a goal scorer. However at 29 yrs old £30m seems steep and with his injury problems. I still reckon fabio silva will come good and double his value by the end of his contract.
Keep the faith!
The deals are been done. Villa are able to sign these players with the sale of Grealish. It doesn't look like the squad is running away from Wolves though. We are stronger than we used to be. And money isn't an issue.
The big sales need to happen so the movements happen further down the clubs.
I can see 3 decent signings before september. Palhinha, a cb and Carlos Vinicius. Plus a left back on loan and i'd be very happy.
If we got Gedson Fernandes or Bernando Silva (i know in my dreams) but apparently city players are up for sale as they want Grealish and Kane.
1.) 05 Aug 2021 19:33:09
Messi is available. If we don't sign him and pay him £500k a week over a 10 year contract, then clearly Fosun have lost interest in the project!
2.) 05 Aug 2021 21:21:42
That wasn't my point.
My point was the club will be working on deals. But bigger deals will have to complete before our deals can be done.
Everyone you talk to is nervous or apprehensive about the financial situation.
I have great confidence Fosun are running Wolves incredibly well.
I think we will sign 3-5 players to supplement the current squad. 3 decent priced players. And two loans with options.
I don't think we need to sell but I can imagine we will have to be creative. If a massive offer came in for Coady and we had a better player lined up its a no brainer. Same with Neves or Traore. If you are paying £30m plus for those 3 but we sign an established cb and add funds towards a midfielder we need surely that's gold business?
But I don't expect Messi, Lukaku, Kane, Grealish etc etc etc.
I expect clever reinforcements to our squad and to build on what we have achieved the past 5 years.
3.) 05 Aug 2021 22:36:11
Madman, I'm taking the P**s.
22 Jan 2024 22:59:32
Suppose this is the debate with buying players now or waiting for the summer.
Personally I don't think Mosquera will become a first team player.
Guedes needs to be moved on as his value is falling off a cliff.
I would take young Noha Lemina as a different option off the bench and bring him home to his family.
Ekietite looks good but I thinks it's too big a gamble in this window.
But as you both say Dawson is getting older maybe it's best to keep the most funds for the summer then look at our options.
Young Lemina on a small fee and wage.
And let's see what some of the youngsters can do as we finish the season.
ODCL
Ps. I know 2 players would probably get us European football just don't think the funds are there to stay within FFP
17 Jan 2024 21:20:09
I think Ekitiete on loan with an option would be fine he is an interesting player and would compliment our forwards.
If it doesn't work out he can go back to Psg.
I'd sign Noha Lemina though he needs his family around him and he looks a worthwhile purchase as well.
Note I believe we can't loan two players from same club so we would have to buy Lemina.
15 Jan 2024 22:24:16
Noha Lemina and a striker would be great business IMO.
Someone like Ekiete would be good on loan.
To think we could have Neto, Cunha, Hwang, Ekiete, Silva and Lemina as forwards in the summer. ???
12 Jan 2024 19:27:12
No chance with Bamford. Always done it in the championship never really had the look about him in the prem.
I would go Noha Lemina from the videos he looks ideal cover for Neto and Hwang. And just to have a player that is confident to run at defences would be great especially when some teams play everyone in defence.
Striker is difficult everyone is after that player that scores 15+ goals.
Ekiete looks a talent but not sure whether we should save the money for a decent striker in the summer?
I would love Xavi Simons if we could get him (in the summer) think he would link up well with Hwang and Cunha and Fabio Silva.
Obviously big price tag on him but I think he could be worth £80m+ in 2-3 years time.
06 Jan 2024 18:36:59
Neto is unique as his runs direct and defenders and the quality of ball at the is normally up there.
Although some of these players have been in good form.
I would say Neto is similar to Jota before he left in that he is one of if not the best of the rest. And he would make a difference at a big side.
So for that reason I think he is worth more than £50m the others would be sold for £70m+.Why not Neto?
In terms of replacements it's tricky as the club have tried to bring in numerous players over the past 6 years.
When we played Chelsea they had Badiashiale and Madeuke who would have developed like Neves, Jota and Neto much better than they will at Chelsea.
But. Selling Wolverhampton a sthe place to play is hard.
25 Jul 2023 21:47:50
Would you spend £45m ona stadium with interest rates as high as they are at the moment?
25 Jul 2023 21:46:00
I think fans we forget that the players value decreases each year and the financial stronghold that keeping players on European football wages has.
I don't think we are in a financial mess this is smart business management. We need to cull the expensive players that haven't gave us anything for two years.
I believe the club has a plan. I'd rather see Alex Scott link up with Silva and Neto this season than Adam Traore again giving me neck ache watching his crosses or Raul not be able to score.
Time waits for no one and the club are right to move with the times in a sensible manner.
05 Aug 2021 21:21:42
That wasn't my point.
My point was the club will be working on deals. But bigger deals will have to complete before our deals can be done.
Everyone you talk to is nervous or apprehensive about the financial situation.
I have great confidence Fosun are running Wolves incredibly well.
I think we will sign 3-5 players to supplement the current squad. 3 decent priced players. And two loans with options.
I don't think we need to sell but I can imagine we will have to be creative. If a massive offer came in for Coady and we had a better player lined up its a no brainer. Same with Neves or Traore. If you are paying £30m plus for those 3 but we sign an established cb and add funds towards a midfielder we need surely that's gold business?
But I don't expect Messi, Lukaku, Kane, Grealish etc etc etc.
I expect clever reinforcements to our squad and to build on what we have achieved the past 5 years.