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06 Oct 2022 20:09:45
Agree Jas, Stan Cullis flopped after he left Wolves as did Sir Alf after short term brilliance at Ipswich and then England. Many others that posters could name I'm sure.
Any manager with two very successful spells on the CV is special. The difference IMO is now the international dimension to management. Many of the managers currently on the Champions league scene seem to be moving between clubs with elite squads in different countries and don't always stay for long, but the good managers eg Guardiola and previously Ferguson build and keep sides at the top. Granted these two were given the resources to do it but that's like F1 drivers where the best ones get the better cars.
Howeverthe really good ones like Fergie did it twice, initially with a small unfashionable club as did Cloughie 50 years ago with two small unfashionable clubs.
So I would go as far as saying most managers just get lucky and are the right fit. The ones who get two right fits are extremely lucky or really know what they're doing.
06 Oct 2022 17:09:50
Winton not cynical but maybe realistic.
Had we been mid table ground out a couple of 1-0's and on 10 - 11 points but not playing great football it would have been interesting to observe Fosun's reaction but as things stand it was a straightforward decision for them to make.
However would Bruno have had more games to turn it around if Sevilla had been on a slower downward trajectory is something we'll never know.
06 Oct 2022 15:14:25
Not really sure about this one, that said most of the candidates mentioned aren't exactly household names.
The club clearly don't want to prize somebody out of a club but want an up and coming coach and seem to be playing a long term game in finding him. This has been the pattern of certainly the last two appointments one of which worked well but didn't quite get us where we wanted and the other that went wrong. Walter Zenga looks more and more like a temporary appointment and Paul Lambert was the only time Fosun went for experience at the level we were at in the 4 appointments that they have so far made (clearly due to being in a serious relegation fight at that point in time).
So Fosun now seem to have the main target in their grasp. let's see how this pans out. Good luck to Lopetegui if he joins us.
I can't quite put my finger on it but I've got doubts.
03 Oct 2022 10:11:37
Probably whoever we go for is a gamble, this guy will at least be able to settle quickly and be aware of many of the players capabilities. Until each candidate rules himself in/out and we get a list then not much point in to much in depth contemplation.
As a more overarching consideration I would hope we can avoid candidates who've had a succession of 2 year appointments that have ended badly. Probably wishful thinking.
02 Oct 2022 17:20:04
Moutinho as player manager doesn't sound like a wise move to me. This isn't a league to cut your teeth in. Just a gut feeling but its hard to see who else could take over as an interim from within at the moment particularly if the coaching staff go with him.
09 Oct 2022 19:54:43
Baza I don't know! But after a few more defeats and by the time these players wake up and realise that they're in a relegation battle they may welcome somebody with experience of keeping sides up. That said they may shrug the shoulders accept the outcome and move elsewhere.
09 Oct 2022 19:00:27
I'm leaning more towards Dyche rated, that assumes he's interested of course.
09 Oct 2022 17:59:23
Well it looks like Lopetegui is staying in Spain for a short while for family reasons but is still interested in a move to the EPL. Nothing happenning before the end of this week according to Mailonline.
09 Oct 2022 12:13:34
Until we get a proper replacement in the job Thelwell used to do I fear what you say is wishful thinking vbwolf. To a certain degree at youth level we seem to be looking at the South American market which is promising but at first team level we are still to highly reliant on the Mendes connection IMHO.
08 Oct 2022 18:29:31
Well I've not seen any of it but my gut reaction is that somethings seriously wrong with the culture in the club. We can all see that breaking up a fairly solid defence while you aren't scoring goals is a risk to put it mildly, no wonder the players are dispirited. The new managers job will be to shut up shop at the back quickly and change the culture and that sort of change is the hardest thing to do in any organisation. I'm not optimistic at the moment I'm sorry to say.