Wolves banter 7

07 Apr 2024 18:58:56
The match analysis on Match of the Day yesterday summed up exactly how bad Tony Harringtons decision was.

They didn't talk about any of the match, or the goals.

All they spoke about was THAT decision and how wrong it was. Heck, Ian Wright even apologised to us on behalf of football.

07 Apr 2024 20:20:09
VAR was supposed to stop controversy, instead it causes controversy,

07 Apr 2024 20:21:57
The problem is that nothing ever gets done. In any normal job, incompetence is either met with being fired, or removed from your position and essentially demoted. Not with these guys, they are untouchable. They are fully protected and don't even have to explain their awful decisions. There ego's considerably bigger than the size of their brains, unable to interpret the rules, gutless to question and overturn any questionable decision from the VAR refs. In all they are a shambles and disgrace to the so called best league in the world.

07 Apr 2024 17:48:42
Fabio Silva subbed off in the Old Firm game today as he was in danger of injuring himself rolling around the grass.

07 Apr 2024 18:56:03
You mean rolling around on the grass because he was fouled and won a penalty?

07 Apr 2024 20:39:44
No, he was booked for the theatricals in winning the penalty. As the commentators said, he was throwing himself on the ground the whole game.

07 Apr 2024 22:57:53
I must have been watching a different game then.

The one that was played today and finished 3-3 did see Fabio Silva given a yellow card for 'diving' only for the ref to overturn his decision, give the penalty and rescind the yellow card.

08 Apr 2024 10:17:42
Think there’s plenty of comment from north of the border about Silva’s disgraceful play acting yesterday including our very own Kenny Miller. What concerns me is Rangers letting him go and Wolves left with an even bigger loss.

07 Apr 2024 17:03:08
Jeff Shi

"Gary, our coaching team and all the players have done a fantastic job this season that we are all rightly very proud of, especially under the circumstances, with many controversial decisions from match officials affecting the outcome of our games."

credit - talking wolves.

07 Apr 2024 15:44:35
First of all, am I right in thinking that you can't be offside from a corner?
If a player passes the ball from the byline and a player scores direct from the cross it can't be offside.
You can see that pablo is still standing in the corner spot so every wolves player has to be onside?

07 Apr 2024 16:23:51
That was my initial thought exactly legornal and it's true, but as soon as the ball comes forward again players can be offside, ie if chinwa had recieved it from kilmans header he'd have been offside. But he didn't the ball was planted straight in the net. The next question is did our player obscure or block their keeper from making a save, the answer no on both accounts. So a perfectly good goal is rubbed out by the suggestion of VAR to an influenced ref who by making the decision shows he as no place in the premiership. No one in the ground seemed to doubt it being a legit goal, so why did someone outside and remote look for reasons to disallow it? As I've said before a letter of apology is no compensation for the points or table position we end up with. VAR isn't correcting obvious mistakes, they're applying judgements that are spurious. Its time to scrap the present system .

07 Apr 2024 16:30:43
There is a definite whiff hanging over VAR, aided and abetted by the intent of the FA and how the PL is managed. FFP is a joke. It seems that a rich club with a battery of lawyers to defend an array of charges can delay justice, whereas smaller clubs with lesser charges get instant justice by comparison. Simply the FA's overriding management style is to preserve the status quo to ensure maximum TV rights cash, and full stadiums at the big venues to ensure the successful clubs cash flow to keep the circle flowing. Seems they would hate a newly promoted club to win the PL, was the last club to get promoted and win the top division Notts Forest and Clough? What chance of that now. Money is concentrated to prevent that. Clubs are effectively barred from taking on the top 6 by FFP. FFP was supposed to protect small clubs, try asking Bury how that worked. Now clubs who secure a wealthy owner with hope of taking on the fat cats who did exactly that and thereby secured a massive revenue, can not do the same. It is a protection racket, a scheme to impose a monopoly of success. VAR and how it is implemented with regular rule changes to suit it, is a part of this grand scheme. Corruption? I didn't say that, but plenty do.

07 Apr 2024 17:14:45
Maybe incompetence more than corruption, if the bigger clubs get a higher percentage of matches that are officiated by better officials maybe the decision making is better.

07 Apr 2024 19:44:16
That is very possible Arddunby. But when poor decisions are made how often is the less 'fashionable' club the loser.

08 Apr 2024 09:52:05
Wimborne, it sometimes appears that way but unless a full range of data is used to analyse outcomes, (including betting patterns) then its difficult to say.

For corruption to be present, and I'm not saying it isn't, I would think many people would be in the know, that in itself is conspiracy That then becomes harder to cover up, as there's also money in it by revealing an exclusive to the media.

If an agenda exists against certain teams my guess is its individual officials with an axe to grind against a certain club for one reason or another, but once again I'm speculating.

08 Apr 2024 16:49:04
We can only speculate Arddunby, but I see Everton only get 2 point deduction for a second offence, and the rumour is that the FA is thinking of dropping points deduction as a future penalty. Could it possibly be that the FA is now concerned over the precedent that may well impact on 2 teams in the select set, one who is charged and the other under scrutiny. If there was a conspiracy then it would not be against a large number of lesser teams, but a positive bias in favour of a small select few. I will speculate further and suggest that we will not have to wait too long before the European League resurfaces possibly in an American style closed shop. Then all we have witnessed in the PL to date becomes clear. Just speculation though.

08 Apr 2024 17:52:40
European league with no relegation format is almost a racing certainty at some point I would have thought.

07 Apr 2024 11:10:19
Think they were robbed of a perfect 'goal'as well. If we're discussing bad officiating surely we should consider this also? Once again we leave our defense open at the back. It's a theme with us we never learn from.

07 Apr 2024 14:34:13
Nice to see Jeff Shi making a statement on all the clearly wrong decisions and the contentious ones that have gone against us this season. Not often I have good words to say about him but on this I'm with him!

Good luck to Wycombe Wanderer's today at Wembley. Chem Campbell and Nigel Lonwijk on loan there are doing well.

07 Apr 2024 16:44:51
Let's all just wait for the apology and we'll all feel much better after that🤬

08 Apr 2024 08:16:20
Good point out Belfast yes the var decision went against us and for us but two needless goals we gave away.

07 Apr 2024 08:50:36
That should end talk of Europe next season, and I think this is a good thing, we barely have a squad to compete at home and we don’t have the money to build a squad to compete in Europe and 60+ games next season. Best thing would be to finish as high as we can but not in Europe and keep building for a better season next season.

08 Apr 2024 08:31:18
Yes exactly how I see it Slinger.

08 Apr 2024 11:06:25
Entirely agree with you Slinger and Phil 👍

07 Apr 2024 08:02:38
Moyes said it was a bad decision, of course he would say that. He's the opposing coach and his team is winning.

07 Apr 2024 09:10:30
Just watched it again and the thing that's struck me is who actually appealled against the 'goal' being given? West ham players didn't seem to, the keeper put his arms in the air but just looked like resignation. Did VAR suddenly call it? Chinwa was pushed forward by the keeper before stepping back. Sure he is offside from the side view from the billy Wright in the still but that dosnt show any interference or obstruction on the keeper. Moyes seemed genuinely baffled by it when shaking hands with GON. It was a disgrace and injustice, again, but moyes is going to take it, he can't do anything else and so would we and GON. It totally Ps' me off tho.

07 Apr 2024 09:35:27
And the agenda against Wolves continues.

07 Apr 2024 10:14:40
I think Ian Wright said it all on MOTD. firstly he ‘apologised’ to wolves, then as the conversation was ending, he said- gutted for ya, gutted for Wolves. No logical explanation at all why the Max goal was disallowed. As Abbeywolf rightly pointed out, not one West Ham player made any appeal. It stinks

07 Apr 2024 07:39:19
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07 Apr 2024 00:52:46
GON is too sensitive about being judged to be a truly top manager. Yes, he's done an amazing job with a paper-thin squad, but to moan about a lack of January signings right now invites the players to give up. Only a couple of weeks ago he was being pragmatic about using youngsters in the first team. Maybe we all need reminding that after too many years in the championship, we are still doing ok.

07 Apr 2024 03:20:51
Where to start with such a comment?! Firstly he's 40 (two years younger than Arteta who was only just leaving Pep at this stage) and in his second full year of management, to judge his career now is frankly laughable! Secondly are you actually suggesting that the best managers aren't over the top when on the end of bad decisions, becuase if so you have been following a different league to me these last few years?! Clearly you've forgotten the time not that long ago Klopp actually suggested replaying an entire match becuase of a bad call?!🤣
Thirdly is it not entirely possible that back when GON said that he meant it but he has since seen (like everyone else has) that you can't compete in this league with just 15 outfield players (two of which are keepers the rest of which mostly defenders)!
I get that he needs to learn to ride these things better but let's cut the 'young' lad some slack eh?! We were second best for the whole second half and were still ONLY just robbed of a point! All this whilst having to play a full back in the hole and a winger up front because we literally have NO first team players left!
Saved Bournemouth last season after there manager bowed out. Saved us this season after OUR manager bowed our! 4th lowest wage bill in the league and still fighting for Europe, whilst having to play with less senior sqaud players than almost any other team across all the pro leagues!
And your judging his entire career after those 18 months and saying he ain't going places?!
C'mon fella, just pick up a paper cause LITERALLY everyone else is saying that he's knocking it out of the park! In GON we trust! COYW🐺🐺🐺

07 Apr 2024 06:51:36
I dunno if he was moaning Otley, or offering explanation to silly questions. Of course he's got to use the youngsters, although why fraser as got out the pecking order I don't know, I dunno what interview you're referring to but if it's just after a game in which you've been cheated of a point, lost any momentum for a European spot, then he's going to be realistic in what he's had to play with. Can't knock him for that, he's only saying 'well what do you expect given the circumstances '. The ignorant media do ask stupid questions.

07 Apr 2024 07:03:45
Agree Abbey and Bully.we have over-achieved this season thanks to Hobbs and O'Neil.
O'Neil was a risk, but has been a great appointment. Well done Hobbs!
Don'y forget, O'Neil has not signed a single player yet! He has been working with what he inherited.
The conversation reported he had with Shi is him just stating the facts. No forwards signed in Jan.a challenging situation will be created.and guess what?! All fans would have said the same to Shi.
In the summer, our Owners, Guo Guangchang, Wang Qunbin and Liang Xinjun need to show real support for Hobbs and O'Neil and find ways to fund investment in the squad, without risking FFP sanctions.

06 Apr 2024 19:37:40
Wolves vs VAR this season👇🏻
• Onana GBH on Sasa (1pt down)
• Gomes 'handball' vs Luton (3pts down)
• Wilson trips over literal air -> Penalty (5pts down)
• Baldock trips over literal air -> Penalty (6pts down)
• Semedo gets 100% ball -> Penalty (8pts down)
• Gomes pulls out of 50/50 -> Penalty (9pts down)
• Chirewa stands at the other side of the goal from where the balls going (obstruction) (10pts down)

credit to the wolfpack.

07 Apr 2024 10:25:17
Well if you're clever enough to avoid ffp points deduction they'll get you another way Rated.!