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26 Nov 2025 20:09:13
It's certainly getting interesting Fosun have disabled commenting on their X posts, they see us and the noise has them running.
26 Nov 2025 22:49:25
Not surprised at all rko there’s something rotten to the core with what’s going on at the minute
26 Nov 2025 22:59:57
Agree de Wolf mate, they've started blocking fans now too.
26 Nov 2025 19:29:46
Malcwulf /abbey best posts for a while totally agree with everything you’ve said regarding how football has gone I’ve supported wolves since 1958 so have seen some fantastic times also some sad to keep the times but that’s football le
26 Nov 2025 07:39:05
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25 Nov 2025 15:40:36
There is genuine concern on social media that Fosun ntend to let Wolves go into administration, they only care about the esports and the football club does not matter to them and administration will be a easy way out for them.
25 Nov 2025 15:54:48
That would be my bet Rated.
25 Nov 2025 15:55:46
It would make sense, they took out a 100 million pound loan at the beginning of the season, using club assets as collateral, now when we go down (not if) if we go into administration any monies owed would only be pennies on the pound, take the parachute payments sell of all they can and cut and run.
Sounds far fetched but would anyone of believed a wolves shirt ( albeit esports) with the words West Bromwich on it?
Academy is about to lose its elite status, grounds an absolute disgrace. It all points to asset stripping as much as they can
25 Nov 2025 17:48:00
Even though Fosun have lost interest, I can't see how administration makes sense, it's only for financial basket cases. It destroys shareholder value.
25 Nov 2025 18:47:27
Fosun won't care they only want the brand for the esports side of things, it's sus how the Wolves esports is blocking fans who are voicing concern.
25 Nov 2025 19:04:34
IF Fosun did take the club into administration, then 12 points will immediately be deducted and if relegation is also involved, which is almost certain barring miracles, the points deduction could be delayed until the following season meaning Wolves, if under new ownership, would start the season on -12 points.
25 Nov 2025 19:18:22
OAP, turkeys don't vote for Christmas. There will be no administration unless the club is going bust, and it's not. If we go down, we will sell players and rebuild and there will be parachute payments.
25 Nov 2025 21:39:49
Your argument falls down when you mention the word rebuild deep throat 😂 we will have a 100 million pound loan to pay back, that’s the parachute payments gone straight away on that
26 Nov 2025 02:25:38
Hello,
I haven't been a regular poster on here for a while but I have supported Wolves since 1967, I always will. Thank you for letting me post on here but in all honesty, at 70 years of age, my health is not what it was and I find the situation with our club depressing and reflected in the tone and posts of fellow fans on this and other forums. I don't like the way football has gone with TV, players renumeration, tinkering with the laws and applications in the game, and find that the whole game has been ruined by money. I can always remember the first few games I attended with my uncle, walking from Wednesfield through Heath Town to the Mil. Then with my late wife, we had season tickets for around 30 years, all during that time, the ups and downs, we were there, home and away, week in, week out. Some great players, too numerous to mention. My interest began to wane a little when she passed five years ago and now, I just listen on the wolves app.
Tommo and Lee Naylor can be really knowledgeable, but even listening when they get negative can be stressful. I have been reading posts with interest but now that anyone with a keyboard can call themselves a 'journalist' and trot out absolute rubbish, even that is depressing. I miss the Sporting Star and getting to Queen Street to buy it fresh from the E and S office on the way back. There's a lot I miss about recent good times under Nuno, I get a lot of joy watching old reruns, Wembley, Cardiff playoff v Sheffield united and some wonderful games over the years. Now, I just find the whole football thing is frustrating and depressing. I love the Wolves always, but there's more to life, I will still listen in, but the last few years have, in addition to grief and loss, not been good.
I wish you all well.
Malcolm
26 Nov 2025 07:15:02
Malcwolf I totally get your view and can empathise with you. May I also offer my condolences for your loss.
Being of the same age group I know the excitement and anticipation match day would give and bring, more honest and good humoured play than today's sponsor, tv, scheduling dictated events.
I too remember the star after the game, sometimes waiting for my brother to pull in, or some times hop off and back on the train to get one so we could see other scores of the day, only half times as I recall.
So I fully agree that money has led us down the road to unbalanced, unfair advantage and ruined the true game.
Add this to the TV dictated KOs, the advent of VAR and its intolerable amount of decision times and biased 'influenced '? out comes and football just isn't real as we knew it.
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I too listen to Thommo Lee and Mike burrows which gives me a sense of connection to the team and live action, inviting them into my room.
I too get depressed over what as become an even bigger part of my live as I have aged. The times under Nuno and the players under him that graced the mol was wonderful, it felt as tho we were on the cusp of breaking the 'big 6' with their financial edge, that went, (as many other things have sadly) after Covid, but it was and as been Fosuns control of our club that is killing us.
As it stands I have found our play boring predictable and I wonder why I continue to watch and listen, but it's that little spark in my heart that love for my club found in my childhood days that gets me excited and living in hope.
So even in my most frustrated despairing day after another poor game and defeat I have hope, it keeps the old head going, I'm hoping we can do the vile, I'm hoping to shock arsenal, sadly under fosun that's all I have, knowing I'm unlikely to see wolves win at wembly again, or compete in Europe, boy, you'll remember, beating Juventus in the EUFA Cup.
But I'll be here as long as, with my gold and black festooned, tear stained scarves hoping.
Keep the faith malc, and all the very best mate.
26 Nov 2025 09:31:21
Why would Fosun put Wolves into administration when they were offered £400 million a few weeks ago and made money in the summer on transfers along with the money coming in from the Premier League for this season. More made up dribble by negative numpties!
26 Nov 2025 11:01:48
Sorry and condolences for your loss Malc.
Malc and Abbey, I agree with everything you say regarding football and Wolves. I too am approaching 70 and have been a fan since 64/65.
I can’t say more, you have already said it.
I just hope we live to see good times return.
If we go right down through the leagues and indeed face another administration, will we find another Sir Jack and another Bully to bring us back from the brink? Hope so and hope we live long enough to see it.
26 Nov 2025 11:10:48
They would put us into administration if it meant they could get away with not paying any loans outstanding, they were not offered 400 million at all they were offered 150 million plus shares in textors company. And you say money coming in from the premier league well that will end this season
The fact that anyone that has a different opinion to you is apparently a “ numpty” sums you up in a nutshell.
Not even the most deluded happy clapper can say they club is being ran well and we will stay up
26 Nov 2025 11:26:07
Why would anyone offer £400 million for a club that is championship bound and has loans against future tv revenue and the stadium stands?
26 Nov 2025 14:11:37
CS1 negative numpties have you been paying attention to what's happening over the past 3 years?
Take of the Fosun blinkers and smell reality.
26 Nov 2025 14:40:45
As pointed out Fosun should not want to put Wolves into admin as it would mean a 12 point deduction with obvious consequences for the football team. (Although if taken this season an irrelevancy). However if the club is unable to pay its obligations as they fall due they legally have no other choice.
Relegation will almost certainly trigger the loan and absorb the parachute payment so even if Fosun waives their own debt, (and why would they), it will be impossible to meet a £250m, (of which £180m is in cash) cost base and service the obligations to other clubs for past transfers from the remaining circa what £30- 40m of income?
Selling the squad will reduce the cost base, (although not by as much as you would hope), and sadly only raise modest sums - many players will either have to be virtually given away or even in the worst cases paid to go - so it is unlikely that after paying debts, (the parachute payment will only cover a portion of the debt), there will be much left over and certainly not enough to run a club for a year.
Admin will allow Fosun to walk away from the remaining debts, purchase "esports" and any other bits they want from the administrator and leave the pesky football team to be picked up by a new investor.
Of course Fosun may back the club and offer short term liquidity to allow it to survive until the following season and the next parachute payment but in which division they will be playing in by then is anyone's guess!
26 Nov 2025 17:04:11
Yes, I’ve been seeing the club go through highs and lows for 50 years and can’t stand Jeff Shi and his lies. BUT is doesn’t make sense to put the club into administration when they’ve were offered £400 million and you can say it was £150 million Rated but in business if you are given shares to a value they still have THAT value.
Four weeks ago when the offer came in we weren’t dead certs for relegation! You also say Gomez is gone 6 weeks before Jan, tell us who’s told you that? Like I said NEGATIVE! And as for the Numpty, No one said it was you and I was referring to people in general but if you want to take the mantle, feel free.
26 Nov 2025 17:35:54
If anyone takes a look at the assets charged as security in September they will see that WORLDWIDE assets from the whole group are charged, land, buildings, insurance policies, players, intellectual assets etc. The parties to the agreement are the 1986 company, the WW (1990) company and the property company. There is no way that anyone would risk all those assets simply to default on a £100mil loan and to walk away.
You cannot 'walk away' from a £100mil loan if you have charged assets worth way in excess of that amount. In my opinion, if relegated, Fosun will go on servicing that loan, and in fact the agreement contains clauses allowing for relegation. Wolves would not be the only club in the Championship with a large loan.
26 Nov 2025 18:08:37
It absolutely boggles me that people even now are still defending fosun
Genuinely cannot get my head round it
26 Nov 2025 18:32:51
It’s not defending Fosun, it’s business acumen! TWO DIFFERENT THINGS! I’d love Elon Musk you buy us or Jeff Bazos and get rid of them. NO club has done well with Chinese owners Villa, Blues, Sandwell and nor will we until they go but administration is not a BUSINESS COMMON SENCE DECISION, even for Fosun!
25 Nov 2025 12:02:44
Right I know this is going to be controversial but iwould sell either Andre or Gomes in jan if Wolve are cut adrift. Reason they are both holding MF Wolves play 5 at the back so with Andre and Gomes that's basically 7 defenders. No wonder Wolves can't score no creativity and only three attackers on sat Wolves had 2 strikers on both over 6 ft but no service.
There is the problem me go to a back 4 play Andre and Gomes plus Lopez Arias or Mane along with Tolu and Larsen. I know people wii say you said you want to sell one or the other yes but if you go to a back 4 plus 2 then you have 4 attackers on the pitch
25 Nov 2025 14:57:44
I said the same the other day it's like England had the same issue with Lampard and Gerrard that couldn't gel together. The chances are we won't get out of this mess so might as well cash in and get what we can and rebuild for next season.
I would also look to bring Lima back as this wouldn't impact on the squad ratio and Rob can work with him for next season or even this as he's no worse than the current 2 we have, in fact I'd say he's better.
25 Nov 2025 16:09:44
MRV I would loves Wolves to now give the likes of Mane and Enzoa chance but still fighting reegstion no chance.
25 Nov 2025 17:36:29
It’s not a fight anymore dmac
It’s not even December and we are as good as down.
25 Nov 2025 19:05:07
7 at the back and still concede lol
25 Nov 2025 09:17:14
Could you imagine Liverpool having Everton `Colllege anywhere near their shirt or same scenario City/Utd, Arsenal/Spurs its absolutely ludicrous, shame on you Fosun!
25 Nov 2025 11:57:53
All that matters to them is the money. They don't care about the fans one iota.
25 Nov 2025 12:38:05
Fosun don't care about the club, it's reputation or standing and Least of all, we the fans.
They shamelessly treat us as cash cows, they regard the stadium as a pop up shop for match day sales.
If this wolves/west Bromwich logo associations are correct it displays an ignorance of the area and alligencies if both clubs.
It tells us everything we need to know and explains Jeff's disregard of our position.
I fully expect Fosun to sell next summer after they've stripped us to the bone, and left us to the dogs. I can only pray we attract an honest ambitious and wealthy owner to pick up the pieces.
25 Nov 2025 13:47:09
It is correct abbey
Sandwell college and the words West Bromwich appear on the esports shirts
Horrific even by fosuns low standards
25 Nov 2025 14:59:36
I bet if they sell us (which won't be next season as they will try and get back in prem league to maximise their returns) they will try and take our Badge with them to keep for the Esports arm of their business.
25 Nov 2025 17:29:35
Sorry if I sounded doubting De wolf, it's just that I'm not from or in the Wolverhampton area or seen anything Esports.
But it's everything I said, they're running us into the ground.
25 Nov 2025 07:39:07
{Ed's Note - SamiKewell has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool FC Team Issues and Misjudged Expectations
24 Nov 2025 14:45:36
Its about time people on here and any other wolves platform get together and organise mass protests against fosun and try to make it to uncomfortable to do anything other than sell the club.
They are only holding onto the club for the e-sports wolves brand that makes them a lot of money. We need them out of our club ASAP before we end up in the 1st division or worse as they have no interest in our club.
24 Nov 2025 15:37:40
Wolves esports are blocking Wolves fans on their social media which sums up how pathetic Fosun are.
24 Nov 2025 17:18:03
And they have Sandwell college sponsoring them, I never thought I would see the day when a wolves logo also has the words West Bromwich on the same thing
Absolutely awful and just shows how disconnected and little respect they have for us as fans
25 Nov 2025 10:43:49
I think you're right. At the start of the season, the club said that they were overhauling the Wolves Rewards program and that any credit obtained between 1st July 2025 and the launch of the new site would be added.
I've just spoken to Customer Services who have said that they have no idea when Wolves Rewards will actually be launched but when it did, no points accrued will be added. So basically, the club offer no incentive to buy the overpriced replica kits etc. It makes more sense to buy the kit from other outlets which are cheaper.
24 Nov 2025 06:25:50
I'm taking a break from posting on here so I would like to thank everyone for their past comments and interactions and of course the Ed's for making this site the best Wolves blog on the internet with their knowledge and management of it.
Under Shi/Fosun change won't happen and most now know it, so there seems little point in repeating the same criticisms of our owners and their domestic managerial incompetence that leaves us with nothing to get excited about.
Assuming we do get relegated they will have effectively fined themselves about £400M and treated their own supporters with the ultimate disrespect. Managers, like players come and go in football, some work out, some don't, in fact without the owners support none will. We've just brought in yet another Coach/Manager but under Fosun's transfer policies he'll fail just like the 5 before him, not necessarily because of him but because of them.
Any new signings need to be of a high standard but that won't happen as the die is cast and the damage is now well and truly done. As for the new Manager choice, to me the only logical explanation is preparation for the Championship such is the extent of Shi/Fosun's failure to provide funding, ambition or leadership.
Personally, I can do without all the disappointment in my life, so I plan to concentrate on my other hobbies, things that actually bring me pleasure. I've been a Wolves fan for 60 years now and will still hope for an upturn, but won't expect it until Shi/Fosun are gone and ambition returns.
24 Nov 2025 06:38:18
Sorry to hear of your choice to break from posting longmynd, you've remain a stalwart of the wolves, and your informative thought provoking and reminders have always been enjoyed and respected, at least by myself.!.
I wish you well and that everything you are going to pursue now will eventually turn out 'old gold'.
All the best for now long, forever the wolf and always a member of this pack.
24 Nov 2025 07:48:54
Very sorry to hear this Long, will miss your posts and discussions. All the best with your hobbies I look forward to your return 🤞👍
24 Nov 2025 08:38:31
Sorry to hear that Longmynd, but I do understand. I echo Abbey's comments.
24 Nov 2025 10:28:40
I'LL miss your poetry Long enjoy your hobbies
24 Nov 2025 10:49:32
Sorry to hear that Longmynd I liked reading your post what ever you do hope it brings you happyness.
24 Nov 2025 10:54:43
Sorry to read that LMW. If I recall your a motorbike enthusiast like myself. Enjoy, but remember don't let Fosun grind you down. I fear darker days ahead now for WWFC, possibly administration, but they will go and we'll rise again.
As supporters we need to protest their ownership to try and force them out by whatever means possible. Yes new owners are a risk an unknown, but I would rather take that now than this. All the best.
24 Nov 2025 12:24:06
Sad to read this Long, you are an exceptional poster, and a poet to boot. If by some miracle we survive in the PL this season, I hope you return. That scenario is the only way I can envisage Fosun leaving, by surviving and selling.
If we're relegated, Fosun will probably be our forever owners as they are unlikely to sell for for the pittance they paid for us.
24 Nov 2025 11:24:46
Despite the new name - as the system has thrown me out again - it is still the same miserable old git from before.
Long your poetry was astonishingly brilliant and your comments and insights equally so!
You will be missed!
However I cannot say I am surprised.
You may have noticed I post a lot less these days as well as sadly what is there to say.
I am embarrassed and ashamed and don't even watch MoftD anymore.
I have also lost interest in Fantasy where I used to compete in numerous leagues!
Fosun haven't just killed Wolves they have killed top flight football for me - I now watch loads of non league and lower league stuff plus go to the occasional rugby match - saw Pumas yesterday!
I still read posts here and elsewhere from people "hoping" that there will be a recovery and talking about resets and investment by Jeff.
The only thing Jeff has done well is cover his tracks.
When reality hits, (and it is going to get a lot, lot worse than this), it is going to be a real eye opener for some.
24 Nov 2025 15:26:52
Saddened by your decision longmynd, like all on here I lover reading your posts, hope your back soon. Does anyone on here think there is an outside chance RE can turn it round before we are mathematically relegated
Reading gomes, andre arias, jsl, might be sold
Who would come to us. In this predicament,
I know we will still be wolves fans whatever
Division we were in
I want us at least to play everygame from now on
With pride, passion, enthusiasm, and show commitment to every fan who watches them play.
All we can ask for is that, end of day if its not enough so be it
Im a wolf forever
24 Nov 2025 15:39:25
Long mate you'll be missed you are one of the shining lights on here.
24 Nov 2025 16:45:25
It's a sad day when they lose a good supporter, me and my mate who have had our tickets for years have decided if they sell J. Gomes then this season is our last. Sick of seeing our best moved on for profit to be replaced by third raters. This lot couldn't run a tap!
24 Nov 2025 17:01:23
Just a final word for now to say thanks for your kind comments Gents and yes NGSM you've sussed me out as I currently have a couple of bike related projects on the go.
Like you TFIOG I'm finding solace in Rugby again right now, especially the international game with England on the rise and the Red Roses totally dominant. I haven't watched MOTD at all this season with Fosun also sucking my interest in elite league football totally dry.
It's not about Premier League glory hunting but without ambition there is no basis for hope in any division.
24 Nov 2025 18:20:30
Greyleg, I'll stick my neck out and say there's an outside chance that we will survive. Very outside mind you! I'm basing my optimism on Leicester City. Despite Leicester being marooned at the bottom of the table for four-and-a-half months between late November 2014 and mid-April 2015, the Foxes managed to put together a run of seven wins from their last nine fixtures to survive comfortably.
And of course they won the PL the following season, at 5, 000 to 1. And of course, they were eventually relegated. Also RE did an incredible job at Luton, keeping them competitive to the end, and only 6 points adrift in18th place when relegated.
24 Nov 2025 19:28:43
as those have said before, Your posts will be missed.
I do believe we still have a chance of surviving, yes a very slim one to say the least, but you have to stay positive when down at the bottom of the trenches. I think most of us on here have the same feelings on how our club has been run, and how all the good times of only a few years ago are a very distant memory right now, but its where we are and nothing will change that.
We have a good fan base no matter what division we have been in, and believe me, we have seen it all, good and bad! But my feeling on it all now is, Fosun are not going anywhere, and no matter how much people jump up and down and scream for them to go, the threats of boycotts or protests will do nothing but cause more pain for all involved, seem that in life now when things get hard, everyone things a protest will solve it, NOW is the time for all of us, on here or at the games to pull in the one direction, get behind Rob and the, if you want to moan and stamp your feet stay away, it does nobody any favours, including yourself.
24 Nov 2025 19:33:14
Will miss you long.
Nothing will change until these owners are gone
I'm finding solace in going to my local A league club who mind you are winning games of football.
Miss you long
24 Nov 2025 22:32:40
Repeat everyone’s comments Long - sorry to hear you’re taking a break but hope you’ll at least keep your eye on us?
There’ll be a time when things will change for the better and I for one will be looking forward to a few magically rhymed words to keep us motivated.
25 Nov 2025 08:22:18
So long Long and all the best for the future. I'm sure you are nowhere near alone in being a Match of the Day avoider. Haven't seen a single one myself and unlikely to unless we win so that's just 2 viewings this season (Villa home and away; very much tongue in cheek).Maybe catch you in the Ragleth sometime but we'll have to wear carnations!
23 Nov 2025 17:13:31
Assuming that we are going to need at least ten wins to have a chance of staying up I’m struggling to see how this is achievable.
The team has little to no creativity or quality.
The best we have is Krejci Gomes and Andre.
Ok go with the two big lads up top but they need someone with guile and quality to supply them.
Tori is a walking mistake, Hwang has no confidence and is just too scared to make a mistake.
Gonna have to bench Munetsi and push on Lopez .
23 Nov 2025 17:50:49
Agree Nando, hope Rob learns quickly and identifies our lack of creativity. As Arias (our Cunha replacement) still looks lost we have to play, either Lopez or Mane. I asked earlier to see if anyone knows why Lopez is rarely seen?
Seems strange to me, Krejci or Joao I think should be captain, Toti always looks about to make a mistake, if we are playing 3 at the back I would prefer Toti not to be 1 of them.
Personally I would like to see both Lopez and Mane played more, start with Lopez and have Mane on the bench rather than Hwang.
Doesn’t seem to make much difference if we play 4 or 5 at the back, if we can’t create enough chance’s to score not going to win.
What an absolute mess Jeff and Co have created.
23 Nov 2025 17:57:19
Possibly a lack of physicality banksy, but I think Lopez is the only player in the team that can link play up and deserves a run in the XI.
23 Nov 2025 19:43:22
I think it will take more than 10 wins Nando as the points total for staying up this season is going to be 38/39 at least, so that leaves us needing at least 13 wins.
Fosun were banking on the 3 promoted sides being poor again and with the exception of Leeds ( who we lost against!) they aren’t Burnley are a bit meh
My 3 to go down are
Us- absolutely nailed on
Leeds- 90 percent certain
Burnley - about 70 percent
After Burnley I reckon it’s one of West Ham/fulham
24 Nov 2025 06:47:23
Yep time to face the facts Nando, we're going down. Ok saying we need 10 wins but we've got 10 points to make up to begin with so other teams need to lose 3 while we're winning, it ain't going to happen.
Look at our fixtures for the next 6 games, can yo honestly see any improvement to take points in any of them?
OK come January players will go, but any coming in won't be for a relegation dogfight, it'll be players for next season and maybe/hopefully a couple of experienced pros to steady the team.
I just hope we can find abit of entertainment in our coming games to maintain an interest.
24 Nov 2025 11:45:44
IF and it’s a massive IF we manage to secure a win at all in the near future, I will have some sympathy for the embarrassment caused to the club we beat as we are the worst team in the league for many many years!
24 Nov 2025 13:48:53
Sods law we beat Arsenal Scad, if that we're to happen then it brighten things temporarily, we could be heroes just for one day.
Dreaming again, time for me pills.