05 Oct 2013 14:36:52
Sako and Edwards out of the team, Golborne LM with Stearman coming back in to defence. Griff and Doyle up front. Henry also playing, so Davis not coming back.
Could be quite a different feel to the Wolves midfield today.
05 Oct 2013 17:02:32
Not seen the match but looked at the tv updates. Henry won the penalty and assisted both goals. Looks like a great signing for us already. How did Golborne get on in the Sako role?
Great result today. U21s murdered Reading 4-0 last week and the U18s won away today. What a great feeling to have a first team playing well (I assume they did today) and young talent in the background
Well done KJ and Wolves, another 3 points!;) Paul Tamworth
05 Oct 2013 20:53:10
Bloody Sako throwing another sicky. I knew we should've sold him. If he wants to go, just let him. Forest have twice offered the money we asked for and twice we've ended up pulling the plug. Now the player is clearly unsettled. Forest haven't once gone to the press, it's always been us, Why? Stupid.
Take £4m and let KJ reinvest it.
If any Wolves fan is doubting Fawazs wealth at Forest just enter his name into Youtube and watch late Kick Off! Shhhhh!
OK, admittedly not bothered to check out late Kick Off. He may be loaded but he's not spending his money at Forest!
06 Oct 2013 15:31:00
If Sako isn't well then he doesn't play simple. And Forest haven't met our valuation or we woukd have sold him. Unless you know something we don't.
Forest have met valuation 3 times but Wolves keep moving the goalpost and that is why the player is getting annoyed. Should be sorted this week.
06 Oct 2013 20:00:21
You don't know that, only what the E&S have speculated. Sako has his price and if someone offers it, Wolves will sell. Clearly Forest haven't offered enough, and in business valuations change all the time anyway, up and down.
Then you wanted a loan fee as well as Jamie Paterson. Sako isn't worth that much!
Why do Wolves keep going to the press, wait until the deal is done, if there is no deal then just keep quiet and don't unsettle the player and the rest of the team, also the fans!
I really think the board are trying to engineer the deal and move Sako on. Like one of the above posters have said, Forest have not gone to the press once. There is a right and a wrong way to do business and Moxey is going about it all wrong.
The player wants to move on and Wolves could do a lot with that sort of money.
Sako set to strike, think wolves have conducted themselves very badly, the valuation was met, the player wants the move then all of a sudden you want an additional 1m loan fee, Patterson on loan and on top of that you make negotiations public presumably to alert other clubs in order for one to maybe meet your over valuation. Think the player has been professional thus far, when valuation not met during transfer Window he accepted that and has played his heart out, now the club are using him and he has every right to be annoyed that they are not showing the same professional manner
07 Oct 2013 07:23:36
I think you will find thst the rumours came first and the press comment after. Maybe Wolves could have handled things differently in the press but that doesn't alter the fact that they will sell Sako once a certain price is met, which neither you nor I know the value of.
Wolves said in the summer we wanted 4 million. As far as I am aware the most Forest have bid is 3.5. Wolves broke off negotiations last week saying that Forest keep changing the goal posts and what Wolves offer as some way of mediation is unacceptable to Forest. As for Wolves conducting it in the media there has been a constant trickle of media speculation ever since the summer that Forest would try again. Or are we to believe Wolves have kept releasing statement to the press that Forest might 1 day come back with another offer. Simple fact is he is our player Forest either have to match our valuation or clear off and stop trying to force a sale by unsettling the player.
£5m is a trivial sum of money to us. Bear in mind that there is no third party debt at Wolves thanks to the magic of Moxey and Morgan. We also have the magic of the parachute payments to prop the club up through the lower leagues. We've got rid of 90% of our high earners and come in well below the SCMP threshold. We're not on the verge of administration as our friends in West Bridgford seem to be hoping. The bottom line is, pay up or clear off.
No-one at forest hopes the Wolves are heading for administration, if that is the case they simply ain't football fans. This is just an example of your team wanting to hold onto one of the best players you have and quite understandable.
The new owner is quite canny and not wanting to throw money around signing people on stupid contracts and proving a point that he's not a mug. My fellow reds seem to think we're loaded but our new owner seems to have a bit of a brain and won't be held to ransom which is quite reassuring to say the least.
Good luck with the season.
Hit the nail on the head there. We don't want to sell one of our best players, even though deep down he probably does want to go because of the chance of Prem league football. We've valued him at a price, forest want him, but don't want to pay that price and are trying to get gim on a good deal for them. All parties have probably been keeping this going, even Wolves. I bet the thinking is that if he is going to go, we want a good price for him, so they're trying their luck through various channels.
Fact of the matter is, even if you go out and say that's it, we're done talking, you just know people are still talking. Nothing is ever off the table.
Long and short of it is, I reckon Sako will be off in January, no loan until January as Wolves will not have time to cover. Deal will be agreed to go through in Jan and kept private. Player told to be professional with the lure of part of the deal being a bonus for him based on a certain performance level until Jan. Jackett gets time to scout a replacement for purchasing in Jan (don't expect anything like for like though, expect more up and coming types of player).