11 Oct 2020 21:14:46
So now the top six clubs have actually come up with mandate to allow them to actually run the entire league?! I very rarely agree with the FA but if this goes through it will be a very bad thing for fairness within our game! Part of the proposals actually show that you wouldn't need a voting majority across the league any more, just between the six biggest clubs. That's fair then 🤮.

1.) 11 Oct 2020
11 Oct 2020 21:46:10
The Premier League seem to be against this too. I wonder then, if the big 6 insisted on driving this proposal forward, would the other 14 PL teams consider quitting the PL and organising a new league structure without the greedy 6 leaving them to arrange their European Super League.

2.) 11 Oct 2020
11 Oct 2020 22:01:27
I read it was 9 clubs but that still isn't fair everyone in the league should have equal voting rights.

3.) 11 Oct 2020
11 Oct 2020 22:09:46
Just realised I said the FA, not sure where they stand to be honest. Your right Jas it's the Prem that have come out agaisnt it. And nope Window (from what I gather) 9 clubs would get voting rights but effectively a motion could still pass (like extra subs) with just the backing of the top six clubs! It's disgraceful, Fenway Sports Group basically want to return Prem footy to a fuedal system, where only those with money get any power! 😡.

4.) 11 Oct 2020
11 Oct 2020 22:32:50
I really hope the big 6 are successful and are able to take all the power. I also hope that the moment they do, the other 14 PL and 72 EFL clubs come together and form a new league. No one will want to join the big 6 clubs as they will not qualify for European competition as they're not affiliated to a national league. Their only hope will be a European League which will take a few years as other leagues need to negotiate their top teams to leave/ participate. Then there the question of how the poor fans are paying to watch the teams. Travelling from say Liverpool to Southampton is a lot cheaper than travelling to Madrid. As I say, I hope it happens.

5.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 00:28:06
Who made them the big 6?

6.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 07:15:23
They made themselves it.

7.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 09:06:54
It would be interesting to see what the big 6 ordinary real fans think about these proposals.
Have you ed's seen anything on this matter on the big 6 fans sites?

{Ed002's Note - It has not come from the "top six". This all comes from the growth potential of Liverpool now flattening out – the owners would like to find a way to squeeze more out – and that is the reason that they have the support of Manchester United.}

8.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 10:48:54
To me the new PL proposals are outrageous. It seems to come from the Liverpool American owners and is falsely presented in part as a rescue package. Long term they are trying to consolidate the big clubs into a cartel. the main reason to reduce the PL to 18 clubs is to have fewer Pl matches, and to delay the start of the season in order to have friendlies. It doesn't take much to work out that the friendlies will be between the usual suspects, the so-called top six! Turkeys don't vote for Christmas. Reject this insidious plan.

9.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 11:00:21
Travelling to games? Actually going to any game would be a start! The FA run the England team so they could put their oar in and state that no player in a breakaway team could play for England.

10.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 10:04:50
Thanks for the info Ed002.👍.

11.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 13:23:05
Project self importance or Project I'm alright Jack!

Would any potential break away, as mentioned by some then invite Celtic and Rangers? Just a thought.

12.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 13:42:40
If you look at US sport they are pretty much all a closed shop the NFL being a prime example. Not really surprising that this has come from US owners. If they could stop relegation I suspect that they would.

13.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 13:10:19
ED002, if the new PL proposals get approved, parachute payments will be stopped. This will weaken the relegated teams. It may also create a permanent under-class of teams at the bottom of the PL, going up and down between the two divisions.

{Ed002's Note - They will indeed be stopped. It is there to try and boost the income of Liverpool and to some extent Manchester United because the growth potential has flattened out - nothing else. The Liverpool owners are investors and would need to get out and invest elsewhere where there is more growth potential if the value of Liverpool is stagnating or growing slowly.}

14.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 14:44:06
The fa Cup has slowly losing its appeal.
Like when I was growing up the fa Cup final the programme started roughly 10 in the morning and built up to 3 o'clock kickoff. You don't see that anymore I would hate the premier league to go a similar way.
Football is our community what our dad's bought us up on and fans no matter how good or successful their clubs are should always remain like a heritage listed building.
My 2 pennith.

15.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 15:26:23
Phil the Premier League and the 2 million or so extra per each successive finish place has certainly devalued both cup competitions but the Champions League and scrapping of the Cup Winners Cup has also been a factor.

16.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 16:03:38
I think versions of this type of proposal have been lurking for a while. Foreign investors in UK football clubs often have little concern for football's history in this country, and how important it is that every club's supporters have hope that one day they will be the best in the land. Running a closed shop of franchises has no place in the UK. Let the top 6 clear off and play their European mates, and let's keep a league that is open to merit and skill, and within fan's affordability when playing away.

17.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 16:51:48
Agree Arddunby my thinking was if the big 6 leave or and no promotion what's the point of all the other clubs.
I feel fortunate my dad was born in Wolverhampton not say like Accrington or Burton as if he was I would of been a Burton or an Accrington Stanley fan.
FWAW.

18.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 17:50:57
Pure hatred between the two of them on the pitch. Pure hatred for everyone else except their own cash coffers and self indulgence. Typical arrogance from the Osborne Northern 'powerhouse'

19.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 18:18:57
Pure hatred between the two of them on the pitch. Pure hatred for everyone else except their own cash coffers and self indulgence. Typical arrogance from the Osborne Northern 'powerhouse'

20.) 12 Oct 2020
12 Oct 2020 22:02:29
I can't help but feel this has just been created with an actual eye on the 'European Super League' that has been banded about for a decade or so. Kind of a toe our line else we are off to create our own league. If that is the case then I agree with Jas, let um go. I accept it would massively devalue our league but to be honest I'd sooner support Wolves back in the Champ than bow down to a fuedal Prem league system, where we get no say and are at the whims of the self selected 'big clubs'!, 😡.

21.) 14 Oct 2020
13 Oct 2020 22:48:46
And yes Gregg Clarke has now come out and confirmed that he left proceedings in Spring when a potiential ultimatum was mentioned! Let's call this what it is folks, cause Fenway want these six clubs to be the major share holders for the ENTIRE league! It's a coup on the Prem, plain and simple! Orchestrated by Fenway whilst the other clubs watch on in the hope for higher potiential yields! Parry makes me sick, of COURSE lower league clubs will support it! Cause they are fighting for survival and frankly it won't affect the vast majority in the current owners life time! For the first time it may actually be useful that the FA can quash such things. Although I suspect it won't be that simple, think things are going to get nasty! 😭.

22.) 14 Oct 2020
14 Oct 2020 21:41:36
I think you are right BullysBoyII this is a step closer to a European super League if not now then in maybe 3 years time when the big clubs in Spain Italy France Germany might want to break away although I don't know if that will happen in every country

Scrapping the League Cup is a good idea.