Wolves Rumours Archive November 17 2012

 

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17 Nov 2012 20:54:54
Time and patience people! How long does it take to change the culture of a club, let alone the style of play! Heres a hint, its longer than 4-5 months! Sod it, lets get warnock in, or mick, go up playing with wingers, then fight relegation or go down.

OR, show some patience, build a team that plays football, a la swansea, and maybe, just maybe, we'll get somewhere.

Yes its frustrating, but we have to give Stale time to bring in players who can play his way. How do you know Morgan won't back him in January?

Im as frustrated as you are, ive watched too many years of mediocrity in this rubbishty division. But i am more than willing to back my team in a transitional year in the hope that it might lead to something better.

And I was there today, as i am week in, week out. How many of you criticising were? Our lads scrapped there b******* off today, with every fan behind stale. Hes going nowhere, morgans going nowhere, moxeys going nowhere. Get over it or vote with your feet. Your choice.



Mate don't know who you are but that's the BEST post iv'e seen on here congrats your 100% spot on. WFE



A lot of people will vote with their feet.We really are in a mess if the only solution put forward to fans who criticise our current plight is to say' stay away'.Is that really how a business should be run?There is more than one way to destroy a football club.You can spend too much on transfers and wages,or alteratively you can destroy a football club in a thousand cuts by not investing in the team and encouraging all the fans to vote with their feet.Apathy is the real danger.



I was there today! It was crap! U happy with that? Your easily pleased! Transition period? If Stale thinks these players can play Barcelona and Swansea!! He's off his head! More like Barnet and Scunthorpe!! Paul Tamworth



To the first post will you still say this if we slip into League 1 because although i don't want to be negative we are heading that way and once you get sucked in to that bottom few it becomes a very difficult season, bigger clubs than us have gone down. I appreciate what Stale is trying to do and it is a transitional period but you have to have a balance and that balance is implement your style gradually but still get enough points on the board for a safe respectable position in the table. I am very worried! Stone Wolf.



To be fair, I shouldn't have made the stay away comment, I'll happily apologise for that. It was borne out of frustration at some of the comments on here regarding Stale, Morgan an Moxey.

I agree results have not been good enough, nor have some of the performances, but it won't work overnight. yes, bigger teams have gone down, accepted. But I don't think we will, not the way the players were willing to scrap today, or the individual quality that is there (even if that doesnt appear to obvious at the mo!). And no, I don't think we were crap today Paul, we had ten men for a large period of the game, it's bloody difficult in that situation.

I just don't see the point in being divisive and demanding change just yet. This is Morgans first managerial appointment, it's the style of play he wants, he isn't going to leave (even though a lot of wolves fans think he doesnt give a toss). we have spent 10m this summer (acknowledged weve brought in 30m, but no championship club will spend that in one window). If he doesnt back Stale in January, ill ask the same questions you are. But for now, im not going to panic.



I agree not to panic yet its only November but if we keep losing then The owner has to think about taking action quickly and learn from last season. I'd prefer that action to be backing the manager with a big chunk of money in January as its clear to see Stale knows a good player, the ones he's bought it are quality. Stone Wolf.



Paul tamworth thats why he said get in his own players with hopefully backin from the board (not sure if it'll happen but still) it didn't say play football with these players in so read it and that post was the best post ive seen on here for ages

WILKO



Can someone just tell me why morgan can not talk to the fans let us know way he is thinking because they /him made a balls up of things manager ect



It's simple, play the tactics that suit the players you've got! When and if he gets the players he wants change it then! So in jan he brings players in and they don't click, what is the excuse then? They need time to settle!! Excuses Excuses Excuses!! We're 16th in a crap league! Im not sure Stale has got anymore tactics up his sleeve? I didn't see anybody else come in for him? And definately not from the Premier league! Paul Tamworth



Paul T, relax pal it aint guna happen over nite stick with it and we will get there.



Really hope your right. But I'm far from convinced! Il be there long after Morgan Moxey and Stale have gone, as will most true Wolves fan. Paul Tamworth



Paul T, your a good Wolves man try not to get to down I know its dissapointing at the moment but trust me it will come good, stick with the boys ok Matey. P.J.



Paul you really do my tree in! Your just a moaning old coot!!
Get real mate! We could have venkys or the person that ruined rangers!!! Look at qpr all money, great owner, great manager, no success!
Q



Q!! One I'm 34, moanin?? Im not a happy clapper like u obviously are! Been goin Molineux since I was 7! Old coot? Respect all Wolves fans whatever age! Not replying to u anymore as u r disrespectfull to all Wolves fans! Paul Tamworth {Ed003's Note - that should have been removed Paul,we don't tolerate abuse to other posters}



Ed, leave it in, the.......;) Paul Tamworth {Ed003's Note - We don't allow that either lol }



Ok Ed, I take on board what evey fan has to say, love Wolves as they do, but Q I've no time for u and I would like to get my point across! U r disrespectful to older fans ! Paul Tamworth



Paul T, don't let people wind you up we all have the Wolves at hart and you wear yours on your sleeve like most of us do, im in my 58th season and iv'e seen it all before, we will get there mate it just guna take a bit of time keep the faith buddy. P. J.



PJ and majority on this board I respect your views, we all want what's best for our club. Paul Tamworth {Ed003's Note - If we could get back to talking about footie that would be best,cheers Paul.}



Ok Ed point taken, just wish our team would start playin some! Paul Tamworth {Ed003's Note - Me too so you all chill a bit lol,but not on the 21st of December mind ;-) }



We're due a win Ed! Hopefully we can start Saturday against Forest and not stop!!;) Paul Tamworth



I .........
Q {Ed003's Note - footie related only please.}



17 Nov 2012 19:41:46
WE MUST GET MORGAN OUT NOW.i am a concerned Wolves fan and can see us bein taken for a ride by our owner and the board.they watched us get religated last season and they are watching our decline now without any care for our great club.they spent peanuts in the summer even though we made millions in the transfer market and i dont think much will be spent in january.there sole aim is to make money from our great name and i think they will flece us and leave when there pockets are full.



Even the new website is slow



Er... he owns the club mate. He could actually stop us attending though never mind us get him out.



Totally agree people need to understand
We are being made fools of! Great Wolves fans stand up if you love the wolves lets take no more!



How can he stop us wound he act like this if he was at liverpool no way and put up with the crap noway



Be patient hes only be at molineux for 4 or 5 months but i think he will be one of our greatest managers maybe even the next stan cullis all we need to give him and the board is time



Greatest managers, now you are having a laugh! He cant manage himself let alone a football club. look at the league table for gods sake, we are in danger of going down again!



So what if we go down again (we wont ) stop moaning were re building it takes time hes trying to do things the right way give him chance to get rid of micks crap



17 nov 2012 19:16:53
stale by name..stale by nature! sort it quick or bring someone in who can! dare i say it? we were better than this under mad mick! and there aint gonna be another steve bull to save us from this landslide!



Mental Mick doin a good job with the Tractor Boys then.



And when Morgan said to god - who shall we bring in to sort out this mess?

God replied - Stale is your man.

Who? Asked Jez.

Stale go get him quick. Replied God.

Well God was wrong for once.

We in the compost heap now me babbies.



17 Nov 2012 17:50:21
Still calling me a negative moaner now, you plebs ?

Down to 16th

2 men sent off in two matches.

2 shots on target all match.

form wise were going down.

If you take sako's goals out then we would be in the bottom 3 !

AND SOME OF YOU ARE HAPPY WITH THIS ?? personS

WAKE UP, tell me im being negative now you fools.

Albion looking at champions league
Wolves looking at staying in the championship

This "im proud to be a Wolves fan stop moaning and support the team" attidude is why Moxey and Morgan get away making our club a nothing club.

Mills wolf



Well said mills wolf



Take the good with the bad. How could anyone predict two sendings off? Could moxey Morgan or stale predict that?
Q



Here we go All the doom and gloom merchants we have played the last 2 games with ten men because of 2 stupid nobs that aint good enough, lets get some relacements in so they don't have to play for us again. UTW



No, we're calling you a manic moaner! Get a grip man.



You are rite.too many people are happy to see us play garbage football and still not moan or complain about it.Stalle needs backing but he wont get it from morgan.



Is this what it has come to? fans saying i told you so. I hope you realise that if we all had that attitude we would be lower than 16th. Do you really think that if we all protest the situation will get better? Because i don't if we all start going mad now it will only make things worse.

Stop with the morgan and moxey bashing as well can you not see that its the players? not all of them but the main ones are:
Berra(cant defend),
Henry(liability, cant play the STS way), SEB(Lost his touch, not fit enough), Doyle(as much as i love him he don't score enough goals),
Ward (not a proper LB),
Plus the bench is rubbish who can we rely on to come on and change a game?
saying that though they are all wolves players and it would be silly of us to not support them and tell them they are persons because then they would get worse.

TDW



whol be on bandwagon when we promoted reserve your judgement till the last ball has been kicked not before Xmas, cheer up we wernt relegated today



People need to wake up! Stale and his foreign mates r not the answer! I'd settle for foreign but foreign who understood the English leagues!! This is very very poor from the management down! Need change big time! Happy clappers keep clapping but the realists see through this! Wakey Wakey were 16th in the Championship!! Paul Tamworth



Well said Paul Tamworth & Mills.



TDW

Trouble is although your right about the players (especially the ones mentioned) not performing on the pitch, it was morgan and moxey that decided to not put up a fight in Januray and cash in on our best players that were good enough to carry the rest of the squad for a promotion push.

Okay here comes the arguement that the players wanted to leave, yes this is true but that might have something to do that they had there wages HALVED no exceptions.

Do i think protests would work ?

Truthfull answer, no, not with closed eared never herd from Morgan. It should make a difference if the owner really cared what the fans thought, they did it at Newcastle and there Owner, hated as he was eventually listened and sorted things out. But half of you on here refuse to blame this mess on the people who are incharge and when other like me dare critisise them and the way they run this club were called moaners.

I just cant believe some of you are happy to just blind support without really knowing what your supporting, not seeing the bigger picture.

Look back at the last 6 winners of the championship, ALL of them but us are now in the prem looking to cement a long term spot.

Albion is the best model to follow i hate to say, where our baord have failed us miserably, there board have done everything right, and dont it all while keeping the club financialy stable and now looking to make prem money for a few years at least for the short term future of the club.

Whats our ONLY boast ?

Well least were not in debht, at least were not portsmouth or rangers.....

Mills wolf.



Sad, sad, moaners. The side played well today against a well-organised footballing team who knew how to play against ten men. Before the sending off they played well and were comfortable. When they went 2-1 down they could have crumbled but they showed real fight and were unlucky not to equalise. Two additions in January will turn this team into a very good side - and given Solbakken's ability to spot players like Doumbia and Sako I'm sure we'll get the right players to make the difference. Whatever you do Capt. Mannering, DON'T PANIC.



Get rid now before we are relagated



To many Happy Clappers on this site! Obviously happy to see the team 16th in a poxy league! Not sayin all my views r right, but I definately haven't got my head buried in the sand! November 17th 2012!!! 16th in the Championship!! is that progress?? Paul Tamworth



There's not enough time this season to buy another 9 players though! Our shots/chances on goal ratio s
Is still woeful, as it was last season. Not being able to defend is also a problem as we clearly can't score enough goals!



Dont panic ?

2 point from 18 says otherwise mate.



How can anyone disagree with Mills Wolf this is serious stuff we were premier league last year and now 16th in the Championship you persons are just what Morgan loves happy to see him spend the minimum and collect his millions we are an embarassment wake up Wolves fans unless we show we don't like what we're seeing we are doomed.



Mills wolf always insults people who don't agree with him or his views! Really, calling people who can see the unblinkered long term view and don't panic 'plebs'... ...this a new word you've added to your vocabulary since it was used in the news?!? Getting really tired of this guy and his fawning sycophant 'Paul Tamworth' ...read their previous posts and they switch from elation and positivity at a win to the rubbish they spout when we lose - never any balance, only ill-informed extremes!



Good post - happy clappers tag so tired now. Rather be a happy clapper than a whingey whiner.



Mills Wolf spot on



17 Nov 2012 17:47:15
To all you people who didn't go to the game Berra sending off was a disgrace never one in a million years both leaning togeather we gone fiddled again for me siggy was class today worked his socks off n davis played well when he come on shame it was ruined would of best em with 11



Tell me this how are we moving forwards how can the manager say he is happy with the defence



Bloody lost again though eh!!



To many IFS for my liking, I'm hearing this every week and its starting to annoy me ,the fact is we lost again and it needs to change with the next two home games 'if not' then i can see the next manager coming in.



Two points from 18 whooooooooooo go wolves.



We shall prevail in our togetherness for tonight and each night we are the wolves.

Amen



17 Nov 2012 11:42:07
{Ed011's Note - Quick round up of the E&S stuff from today, pretty interesting things to note.

Apparently Doumbia cost us £2.5million to make him a permanent Wolves player, that wouldn't include fees for the loan but still that's such a bargain, to begin with I was hearing double that figure and was saying that's a great price for him, he's worth triple £2.5m at least in my opinion (although I am a bit biased). Also apparently we made it permanent so quickly as there was another club described as a "big fish" circling him - would be interesting to know who. I just hope his form picks up a little bit, he's slowed recently but then again most of the team has.

Also looks like Berra is set to extend his contract after all despite all the talk at the start about wanting to leave. Another interesting thing is that 20-year-old keeper Aaron McCarey has been allowed to go out on loan to Walsall, with Hennessey now sadly out for another 9-11 months and De Vries unhappy with the situation this seems a bit odd to me.



Two clubs are Everton & Swansea, that's the info from my uncle who works for Sunday Mercury. UTW



I would guess that McCrarey is nowhere near ready for first team action and therefore its a good idea to get him experience somewhere else.



Thank god for sako kids - if you take away all the points he has got us this season we would be bottom two.



Lets just enjoy him before better teams come sniffing.

I heard that 6 prem sides are considering big bids in Jan.

Peace to the earth.



The way its going m8. We could end up in the bottom 2. This just aint good enough. Cant see where our nxt win is gona come frm?



For Gods sake keep the faith. SS will turn things round. UTW



I just hope the ones trying to buy brum turn round and make a offer for us they can not be worst then morgan



17 Nov 2012 17:16:02
at Ed011. I really wish Berra wasn't extending his contract. He's worthless! He's ruinded my day. My birthday 2day. Not a very happy one.. On a brighter note. He'll miss 3 games and Batth or somebody else will get a chance now. Hopefully then he'll be dropped for good! {Ed011's Note - Happy Birthday, sorry I brought it up :/



19 Nov 2012 00:59:01
Ed011, No worries m8. N thanx.. Nothing personall bud. I just dont like Berra. Lol.



17 Nov 2012 11:05:24
David Beckham on loan anyone LOL {Ed011's Note - I'd rather have Robbie Keane back for a couple of months to spice up our forward line a bit.



Robbin Keane every time, get him for two months could put us in top two. WFE



Beckham are you kidding? he is dead after 20-30minutes and his wage would be more than 49k a week! (our wage cap)



17 Nov 2012 10:17:08
So we didnt end up getting frimmy then with the reason being he wasnt fit enough & Stale wants to give Davis his chance.

Well you tell me if any of them are fully fit as none of them have managed a full 90 mins this season.

Okay, so frimpong wasnt 100% then why was we in talks with him and why didnt we turn attention to another loanie if we had identified a weak area ?

never a plan B is there ??

what happend if either Tongo, Davis or Edward takes a knock ? with Redcard Henry out for 3 matches we may end up with 2 fit centre midfielders !!


WTF !! thats what emergency loans are for so why have we ricked this ?? to keep a few quid in the bank probably.



The answer to ALL positional shortages

STEPHEN WARD



Stephen ward is awfull replace replace replace!! drop berra to not good enough robbie keanne and kenywin jones upfront yes please midfiled tongo sako pennant and get frimpong in jan!



 
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