Wolves Rumours Archive July 14 2016

 

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14 Jul 2016 23:18:43
Just driven past training ground. Its very dark, but I saw several cars there.



14 Jul 2016 23:29:24
There's always cars there it has a bar.



15 Jul 2016 03:04:56
how dark?



15 Jul 2016 06:39:15
Of course its dark it's night lol.



15 Jul 2016 08:04:59
Bet there are a few red faced ITK people about Wolverhampton and there so called sorces, The Telegraph quoted weeks not days, I tend to trust there time span rather than some blokes mates dogs friends mom who knows a guy who sells programs.



15 Jul 2016 08:35:21
They all fell foul last Friday! There can be no smoke without fire and if it wasn't for the Spanish media we wouldn't know anything. So I doubt that anyone but the select few know the details and all we have to do is sit and wait. The realist said our time is now and I believe him so I think we need to be patient.



14 Jul 2016 22:47:27
Check Twitter Marca reports lopetegui still in running for Spain job as takeover failed to get off the ground.



14 Jul 2016 22:51:37
Have we all been mugged off or is someone else taking over.



14 Jul 2016 22:55:50
Juschecked marca and doesn't say anywhere hat the takeover is off! Be patient its going to happen.



14 Jul 2016 22:58:05
Seen it, Mol Mix seem to be panicking by reading it as deal fallen through (although there's so many posts it's hard to keep up, they may be being sensible too :-)

It actually says deal failed to get off the ground, which is an observation to date, no sign of it being direct / original / itk information. It also claims the manager is still a free agent, though his agent is on holiday and again it doesn't seem to be quoting that guy saying he is, just another observation to date. The only inside info in that story appears to be the Spanish still want him, for I bet they'd be glad to stir things up.

But I don't think the Spanish FA have got the money to compete, or the project to attract, because according to that Spanish agents twitter after watching Euro's, he seems to think Spain's National glory days are probably past them as that generation is going out and other Countries have caught up. If he's advising that manager, which is he, Wolves is still the better project.



14 Jul 2016 22:58:17
If something sounds too good to be true it usually is!



14 Jul 2016 22:58:39
how do they know this?



14 Jul 2016 23:01:45
It doesn't mention any takeover at all.



14 Jul 2016 23:05:21
If this takeover is nothing then I've lost faith and it's back to league one . if it's not true why hasn't moxey came out and said it is not true clear as day . also there's a lot of fake sauces after the amount of fans that have come on hear saying they know Fred who cleans the toilet and deb that makes the tea. there's been a press conference every day this week.



14 Jul 2016 23:07:14
"Failed to get off the ground" is just a bad translation. What they mean is, it hasn't been as quick as expected.



14 Jul 2016 23:22:59
It might help if Moxey or Morgan might actually say something instead of keeping everyone in the dark. What the hell are they playing at? It's not rocket science, is it?



14 Jul 2016 23:24:11
Don't think most on here would be useful in a genuine crisis, it's all RUN FOR THE HILLS, THEY'RE COMING TO GET US every time someone somewhere in the world writes something contradicting the last thing that was made up by whomever didn't know anything and needed to write a piece.
I heard we were getting Sir Alf Ramsey as manager and Stan cullis as his assistant. Let's see how far that one goes.



14 Jul 2016 23:46:45
Got this off Mol Mix, they were in meltdown :-P but then stopped when someone pointed out that Marca published another article same day as this one (today) , that says in google translate.

Out of several options for Spanish managers job, Lopetegui is desired option. "But Lopetegui is about to sign with Wolverhampton, complicating joining the team".

:-)



15 Jul 2016 03:02:34
So it says Dave Edwards doesn't know what's going on! that's no surprise we have seen him play! lol
I really think Sir Alf and Stan could get us promoted this season :)
According to my sauce from Worcester this steak will taste nice
ok ok sorry I really think I am starting to lose all sense of reality!
FFS tell us something M&M before we all crack up.



15 Jul 2016 07:00:31
the deal is not off. I told u I know the couriers who took the documentation up to the fa last week.



15 Jul 2016 09:13:35
Course the players know what's going on. and jacket does. he is just hanging around for a payoff. I wouldn't pay him in washers. and to the people who think he has done good. u must love crap football.



15 Jul 2016 10:15:56
You keep saying you know the courier service Demon but haven't once said who they are. You also haven't said where you're getting your information from?



15 Jul 2016 11:49:36
That courier rumour is as plausible a rumour as I've seen, long time ago I used to manage TNT Sameday offices in Northwest and then North Wales. That is how stuff like this is done, direct sameday courier, the couriers see what's going on from collection and delivery points, from the contact names given, they know how important stuff is by how it's impressed on them, the priority given to them giving time of delivery updates and proof of delivery etc. They can get a good insight. And we used sub contractors (sometimes liveried but sometimes even just taxi's, whatever was available at that moment and was fastest) who are just ordinary people who will pass on rumour.



14 Jul 2016 23:08:18
Am I right in thinking that season ticket prices have been increased when they became available again today?

I cannot see any justification in this without some serious improvement in all aspects of the club, it just doesn't make any sense if they have been increased for the sale not to of gone / still going through.



14 Jul 2016 16:30:43
Please don't ask me to reveal the source of this info some of which may be old news but it has come from within the playing staff 1. Deal was done 2 weeks ago but for some reason unknown it has not been made public 2. Morale within the club at present is at an all time low 3. Coaching staff attached to the senior squad have been advised that they will be relieved of their positions by the end of the week. 4. The buyer is Robin Li 5. The new manager is the Spanish chap and he will be bringing his entire back room staff, along with upto 6 new signings. Still no one knows when the announcement will be made, but I am presuming if the coaching staff are going by the end of the week it must be by the beginning of next week at the latest.



14 Jul 2016 18:16:41
Saying that Dave Edwards has come out and said he has no clue what is happening the above is difficult to believe.



14 Jul 2016 18:24:25
Evening Pertonwolf,
A very clear post. If staff are leaving tomorrow, then it will be public tomorrow.
Let us all hope it is a very bright light coming out of the darkness!



14 Jul 2016 18:25:46
Thanks Parton, makes sense and I hope you and your source are correct. The sooner this saga comes to a conclusion the better.



14 Jul 2016 18:34:20
You are all welcome can only post what I have been told by what I consider as a reliable source as for Dave Edwards saying what he said do you really think any senior player would come out and spill their guts on privy info within the club to the press. No. I doubt it as well.



14 Jul 2016 18:45:25
Complete rubbish, we are playing at Crewe tomorow and off to Ireland next week, who is going to manage/ coach the squad, doesn't make any sense.



14 Jul 2016 19:01:54
I would of thought the first news would be jackett going I cannot see a new owner being announced before this.



14 Jul 2016 19:03:43
How do u know Pertonwolf is talkin rubbish? The deal is done the only thing people are guessin about is when it's announced. Its Happening 👍👍👍.



14 Jul 2016 19:04:34
Here we go. next week. this is becoming so so tiresome. I told u tomoz will be announcement.



14 Jul 2016 19:12:11
As anyone been right yet.



14 Jul 2016 19:14:24
The Milan takeover as been held up as well next Tuesday there reporting on China daily news.



14 Jul 2016 19:16:20
Just a thought I bet jiz moxey is eating the food stock before announcement made.



14 Jul 2016 19:26:37
Various ITK predictions are biting the dust, day after day. There are more sources claimed to exist than even in the biggest HP sauce factory in the world.

Still, as long as it happens.

I wouldn't knock players from Fleetwood Town. Didn't Mick want to sign Jamie Vardy from there?



14 Jul 2016 19:38:33
Intetesting post pertonwolf. Thing is does anyone know the movemrnts of lopingui? And his team? Coul he appear torrow night or link up in ireland? Our existing stafd will be given nptice surely and transition could take placr on tour., its dragged for so long. I belive we'll hear something tomorrow.



14 Jul 2016 19:45:53
It won't be tomorrow as they will be going to Crewe.



14 Jul 2016 19:46:44
And a transition in ireland will avoid major media intrusion allow introductions 'bonding' etc.



14 Jul 2016 19:56:21
Off to crewe then. It maybe a farewell occasion. Keep em peeled!



14 Jul 2016 20:09:29
Everybody knows that nobody knows! Those that do know ain't telling. We all know it's happening - chill out, stop guessing and wait.



14 Jul 2016 20:34:41
Let's be honest, nobody known's what the hell is happening. We can all hang on the words of the one's who say they they are in the know - Jim Boriston, the Realist or Banbury wolf but they know the square root of nothing. All they are doing is either making things up or taking comments from other sites. We will find out what is happening in good time but bear in mind no business throws the baby out with the bath water. Moxey will stay for a period of time, no business gets rid of the complete management team when they take a business over, especially a group from China who know nothing about the English Football League.



14 Jul 2016 20:43:04
The only thing for sure is that paul from Tamworth has turned into a happy clapper over the deal! Lol. Fingers crossed it happens soon before I choose them!



14 Jul 2016 21:25:19
Eeeew got a horrible picture of Moxey in the bath now - thanks for that!



14 Jul 2016 21:27:25
Im not overly concerned about the takeover, That is happining, The thing i'm slightly worried over is 1 the lack of signings and 2 the dishormony that 10 or 20 million pound players may bring to a dressing room kenny jacket worked so hard to rebuild from the o'hara johnson era.



14 Jul 2016 21:30:04
The deals done, when it's announced we will all be happy clappers 👍 Might as well shut the board down then as no one will have anything to moan about 😂😂😂.



{Ed003's Note - well said.}

14 Jul 2016 21:39:17
This takeover will not happen END.



14 Jul 2016 21:42:43
The next sale starts Saturday at 5am now that's a fact.



14 Jul 2016 21:49:28
Dootz50 said who?



14 Jul 2016 21:54:30
The deal is done is it? Watch this space! For the investors amongst us I would be buying into Kleenex as their maybe tears ahead!



14 Jul 2016 22:08:55
Dootz50 yam a proper Dick.



14 Jul 2016 22:17:21
Just sick of all ifs and when's would love this to happen been a wolves fan for over fifty years I would do for this club.



14 Jul 2016 22:35:36
No statement from the club

No statement from the new owners

Ifs when today tomorrow no one is confirming the the real truth.

Just saying.

I really want this to happen but the longer it goes on the less it's going happen. Until the dream happens.!



14 Jul 2016 23:26:41
I'll email my Chinese friends it was them that told me about changing the wolf emblem for a tiger. from what they have seen in the Beijing news they say it's happening and I don't see why they would lie,



15 Jul 2016 00:24:08
Is that the same Beijing channel that's running the saying that a Chinese supermarket billionaire is going to buy Tesco's chain, and also the BaggLadies Football Club (I presume they mean West Brom) to front it for them?



15 Jul 2016 08:05:58
Paul Tamworth/ Demon you have no facts to say deal is done just in the dark like the rest of us. Yes this is a rumours site but please do not confirm the deal is done if you have no knowledge it has.



15 Jul 2016 10:30:22
How can u say the deal isn't done? Same thing! Its Happening 👍👍👍.



14 Jul 2016 15:48:41
The latest rumour I've seen is that we're interested in a full back from Fleetwood Town. How about that? Linked to a £21m Brazilian midfielder from Barcelona to a FB from Fleetwood Town in the space of just a few days. It could ONLY be Wolves.



14 Jul 2016 16:59:29
Hahaha'yeh typical wolves' silks to potato sacks in the blink of an eye, still we have the two M's to laugh at, NOT!



14 Jul 2016 17:15:40
Really cannot see this takeover happening. Dragging it out way to much, really have my doubts about it now. Oh well ay. wolves ay we.



14 Jul 2016 17:20:23
Get a grip man, has someone been tipping chemicals in the Don again or something?



14 Jul 2016 17:30:05
The midfielder is from Benfica not Barcenlona unless you are suggesting that we are in for Rafina for another 21mil bid as that would be like Fifa (non- realistic)



14 Jul 2016 20:48:29
I'm glad you noticed the deliberate error; yes the rumoured £21m target is at Benfica, not Barca. Don't worry more-onWolf; I don't need chemicals in the river Don to hallucinate. The smell of your after shave is severe enough to cause this. Stay patient fellow Wolfies!



14 Jul 2016 20:48:30
No way will the staff be leaving at the end of the week, in fact Jackett is taking team to Ireland and remains in charge until deal is concluded, as yet no one is saying when that will be. Frustrating, yes, but let's get a grip. We've waited, in my case 40 years, and another X days I can live with.

PS I don't doubt all ITK are well intentioned but do us all a favour.



15 Jul 2016 02:12:33
Well said danceswithwolves

And for those knocking possible signing from Fleetwood, let's not forget where Leicester got Vardy from!
The FB in question is an Irish international with a host of clubs scouting him.



14 Jul 2016 14:15:57
Up at Molineux now. nothing going on at all. couldn't even get a comment out of Billy wrights statue.



14 Jul 2016 14:24:53
Billy Wright was a man of few words. You stand a better chance with the statue.



14 Jul 2016 14:34:13
Did you forget to give it a rub?



14 Jul 2016 15:42:17
Just passed Molinuex we have some new signings, saw a couple of pigeons hanging around.



14 Jul 2016 16:01:53
perhaps they are the new wingers?



14 Jul 2016 16:23:51
Class man.



14 Jul 2016 16:43:29
its getting embarrassing now. I know this is a rumours site but let's at least have a shread of truth in them guys, its driving me up the bleeding wall man! I'd laugh if it hadn't been going for so long! The wolves blog today was the last straw! I'll take it all back if something is announced today! 4give my annoyance.



14 Jul 2016 17:21:57
Probably just looking for worms, tell them to try the CEOs office.



14 Jul 2016 17:33:27
Just saw a sky van by my council flat. They are reporting on a new satellite dish being erected on the south wall. Robin Li is up the ladder making sure that the wire is attached so that they can get Internet as well as EPL coverage. Van driver looked like Robbie Savage who must've left BT sport (exclusive? )



14 Jul 2016 17:47:54
Youknowsit are you ainsley harriott.



14 Jul 2016 17:47:18
The flags have been taken down from the flagpoles outside molineux.

Are they ready for these?



15 Jul 2016 00:10:27
inajam.

This is actually my story and Sportsmole have picked it up off Wolvesblog. My mate works in the Molineux and he's always given me 100% info and never let me down. He has told me the deal was done today and it Will be announced tomorrow, it was due to be announced at 5pm today as posted.

I note on 1877 there is one other guy telling the same tale from his Brothers mate who is a physio at Wolves. He has apparently heard of sackings to be announced tomorrow.

On your very own Wolves rumours, there is a chap claiming exactly the same but through another source.

So do me the favour of running with this story until tomorrow, not much to ask for after all our waiting. If we are all indeed proved wrong, then please feel free to vent your spleen at me, I posted so I will face any ridicule / abuse you want to hurl if it implodes.

I am just a Wolves fan of 55 years trying to help. I am not one of those moron Baggies knuckle draggers in disguise hell bent on stirring up passions, We don't have to play one up man ship with each other, just because we can,

I am genuinely trying to gleen information from shit scared Wolves staff to help US. We all see the Golden Ticket and want it yesterday I am no diferrent. Wolvesblog are not doing anything diferrent than any other site, we want answers. I pray we all get what we do deserve from this poorly run present regime. Thanks, StuWolf.



15 Jul 2016 13:37:40
well said stuwolf facts are facts we will know when they tell us so let's all wait and wait it will come.



16 Jul 2016 10:20:12
Well this turned out to be true didn't it.



14 Jul 2016 09:30:20
We've had a bid for Duffy rejected.



14 Jul 2016 10:34:12
No Duffy, what a surprise. Why is Jackett bidding for anyone? I just don't get it. He ain't going to get anybody in with the current takeover situation as it is, anyway. The man's just waiting money, even if one does go through.



14 Jul 2016 10:52:24
Jacket said all transfers on hold .
more rubbish rumours.



14 Jul 2016 10:52:40
Jackett isn't bidding for duffy, all transfers are on hold until the takeover.



14 Jul 2016 11:07:20
It's been reported by HITC.



14 Jul 2016 13:12:06
Jacket doesn't bid for players, that's thelwells job. It will be interesting to see if thelwell stays, which I doubt he will, and what a new managers role is going to be.



14 Jul 2016 15:00:05
No we haven't.



14 Jul 2016 15:20:41
Reported by hitc? Jeeeeeezzzze that site thinks of a story every day for every club to get you to hit it up, the stories are second hand at best, and have one aim. To draw you in. They will say, daily 'THIS Wolves player is an England hopeful'. So you look. Who is it, you ask yourself. Job done.
It is not an information site, it is a maximum hits site.



14 Jul 2016 09:14:05
My source tells me there is no announcement today or even this week. so relax folks and get on with your day instead of checking twitter every 5 minutes.



14 Jul 2016 11:31:21
Any further news from your source?



14 Jul 2016 12:03:57
Just that the deal is not inminent. it could take around 2-3 weeks. its not what the fans want to hear but that's the reality of it.



14 Jul 2016 13:40:42
You said the takeover would be complete a week after 1st July. You have no 'source'



14 Jul 2016 16:05:51
I do have a source. this is a complicated deal. its not as straight forward as most deals. the deal hit a snag and which has caused it to delay. it should have been done at the start of July. hence the there has been 2 fellas to come in and get the deal across the line.



14 Jul 2016 08:26:07
Morning, all just to let you guys know that according to newsnow are first signing of the new era of Wolves will be Shane Duffy from Blackburn for a undisclosed fee.

Apparently both Jacket and the new manger, (Can some one please put how to spell his name) have agreed that this will be a good signing.



14 Jul 2016 08:34:02
As reported in Daily Mail.



14 Jul 2016 08:39:14
Duffy, wow exciting. I thought Jackett had gone? 👎 The good news, however, is that the press conference and anouncement of the takeover should be later today with news on the 5 new European players coming in (or 4 now? ) 👍.



14 Jul 2016 08:55:07
I can just see the new manager asking kenny for advice Lol on new players.

Bye him then lone him back the club.



14 Jul 2016 09:08:37
There's no way the new manager would agree with Duffy considering he wants only top class 10 million pound players. What would be the point? Maybe he feels sorry for Jackett and just said yes because 3 million is peanuts to the new regime? 2 Danny Batth's at the back, yeah great!



14 Jul 2016 09:25:53
Lets be honest. no one has a bloody clue what's going on. its all just speculation. if it happens it does, if not we will have a bad season and will gibe all the moaners something to moan about. even if we win the champions league, they will still moan. cheers up you missrable buggers!



14 Jul 2016 09:27:51
It's Lopetegui. Pronounced Lo-pet-a-hee.



14 Jul 2016 09:53:06
I think Duffy would be a good signing when Celtic and Swansea are after him. He would add some real steel at the back. Then if ya new man can add 4 quality flair players from Spain or wherever ahead of them we will do well.
The hardest bit will be getting top draw players to come play in championship. So for me these kind of players are far more realistic no matter how much money we might have in this division.



14 Jul 2016 09:57:34
Cockney wolf you are so so wrong. people do know what's going on. tomorrow will be the anouncement. and yes I even know which courier service took the documents up to the fa last week.



14 Jul 2016 10:31:22
Wavidsmith, when exactly did you have that intimate chat with the supposed new manager where he expressly referred to only wanting players who cost at least ten million (pounds or euros by the way? )
While with him, did you also think to get an accurate explanation of the current state of the takeover?
It would be informative for us all if you could also divulge that info, if you did. Cheers.



14 Jul 2016 12:18:36
Agent Mendes who is brokering all these deals only associates himself with big time Charlie's, that's why more-onWolf. Lopetegui is hardly going to be looking at cheap Championship fodder, is he? (ie, anything less than £6 million or Jackett type 'bargains') .

If the takeover doesn't happen, fine, i'm just going on the information given about the new regime which is quite clearly not going to include players of the standard of Danny Batth.



{Ed001's Note - Mendes has a large number of players on the books of his agency, not all are big time. Right now there are a significant number (probably around 20 or more I haven't bothered to count) that are out of contract. Of the 90 or so players on his books, only 20 or so are big time players.}

14 Jul 2016 12:22:03
I only deal in pounds, not euros.



14 Jul 2016 14:02:58
I apologise if that is correct editor.



14 Jul 2016 15:33:12
I would guess that the likes of iorfa and hause are in his radar, and he makes his money when they move, or sign upgraded deals. I imagine if his involvement is closer to the club than normal we can anticipate 'big time charlies' (as you say) coming in and going out on a regular basis. Where this leaves the academy I'm unsure.
This is wavid, people are getting all arrogant about money now. Words like chump and change thrown around, we are richer than you attitude, crapping on our current squad of players etc etc. It is already moving in an unpleasant direction and no one knows for sure if it's happening (so many claim to, yet all have been wrong so far) and soooooo many contradictions, so why someone claims to know something here, you need to walk the walk as well as talk the talk. Menses and lopetigui undoubtedly think. in euros, no matter what you do, so they must be thinking 15 million euros players since brexit, by your calculation.
If he thinks he can have a team of 15 million euro a time players in the championship the wage bill on top is going to have to break all known records and go way beyond previous fines for financial fair Play. But as so many now love to gloat and boat, it's all chump change to Robin Hood, I mean Li, who takes from the rest and gives us more as he rides through the glen with his merry band of business men. I don't think.



14 Jul 2016 16:27:57
good points more-onWwolf, but I wonder how the money and exchange rate will really work in practice (I'm not good with numbers or straight logic so I really don't know and can't guess, but can maybe see opportunity) ?

Robin Li's money isn't in £Sterling, but Wolves accounts are. I wonder if it's possible that going forward, he might be able to buy players and pay them without going into Sterling.

Or, if it does need to go through Wolves books and therefore be in £Sterling, he invests big money in the club as a warchest that is then used to buy and pay players, he'll be buying £Sterling at its devalued rate to inject that cash, so when it is in £Sterling it will be a bigger volume, and when transferred back to Euro's or whatever is same as his foreign currency investment was.

However it might work, being a foreign investor with foreign currency, I wonder if the devalued £pound means he can just keep winning on the exchange rate, and at least be advantaged against other clubs whose money has always only ever been Sterling and is now devalued (like say Newcastle FC with Mike Ashley, or indeed us with Steve Morgan) . If so, makes having a foreign owner who is still to invest their cash (rather than Villa whose new Chinese owner probably did it before Brexit and the £ crashed) a big advantage compared to having a Brit owner.



14 Jul 2016 08:01:00
Morning update, just gone past moll and nothing happening out side, won't be long though before some tool comes on and tells you that there are 8 sky vans and a Chinese circus outside!



14 Jul 2016 08:08:03
Ah Rogue they turned up a minute after you, you missed then! lol.



14 Jul 2016 08:30:45
They have just pulled up Rogue1 lol.



14 Jul 2016 08:35:59
There's 5 sky vans parked up in Grant Way.



14 Jul 2016 09:19:47
I was googling, and discovered there is actually a place called Tomorrowland! It's a theme park, it's logo is gold and black and it says it's permanently closed :- (



14 Jul 2016 09:25:51
I hear from my contact nothing will be forthcoming this week, next week at the earliest and it definitely won't be a Chinese takeover.



14 Jul 2016 09:43:43
There are no Sky vans at the ground, nothing at all.



14 Jul 2016 09:52:37
lol, maybe we've been bought by Ancient Aliens and while the announcement won't be made till next week (our time) , they used a time portal into an alternate dimension to really do it 10 years ago, so although it hasn't caught up with us yet and won't till next week, we've never really had to suffer the Morgan and Moxey double act at all and have already won the Champions League! Is it possible.

YES!



14 Jul 2016 09:55:47
TomorrowLand is Robin Li's new multi-million pound theme park football team. YesterdayLand is the Wolves Museum.



14 Jul 2016 12:58:25
Dont you think the longer it goes on the less we are going to be bought out.

I have a feeling that the Chinese take over is Steve Morgan way of laughing at us again and Moxey the fat toad is buying the club. Which means dragout the rumours until after the tranfer window closes.

I hope I am wrong.



14 Jul 2016 07:41:41
According to reports, the announcement of the takeover will be made today.



14 Jul 2016 08:00:33
On Blackcountry day.? Bostin timing ay it.



14 Jul 2016 08:08:50
Seeing is believing guys
We wait in hope.



14 Jul 2016 08:13:15
Which report lancashirewolf?



14 Jul 2016 08:17:40
OK, I've just read 2 different reports myself, must be something in it!



14 Jul 2016 08:21:39
Wouldnt you expect it before 10. For the season tickets to explode.
Just to annouce and take over the afternoon makes sense. But will see.



14 Jul 2016 08:29:08
Radio WM reporting next 48 hours.
Heres hoping.



14 Jul 2016 15:52:37
But these reports ALL originate from the same source piece that appeared on another reputable blogging site yesterday. It was instantly reproduced on this one. And these other sites all used it as material. That's the way it works. The must be something in it idea will only prove true IF the first piece was accurate, the rest are superfluous. Get with the program guys (and gals) , this isn't the 90s anymore.



 
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