Wolves Banter Archive August 10 2016

10 Aug 2016 22:36:27
I know we gotten rid of Morgain and Dom Joly, but why haven't we ditched The Moxey Shop? Do we want the Chinese to think many people have to take short term loans to get them by? This carp makes Britain seem like a third world country.

10 Aug 2016 23:51:01
I suspect it's because it's too much hassle to change the shirts this season, with some sold, stock already in place, no time to get new shirts in etc. And it doesn't really matter while we are in Champ, because hardly anyone will see it. It only really matters if we get to Prem, and then yes it would be very bad.

But not as bad as it would have been with Morgan or some other tinpot owner, as it would have been way too strong and would have defined our identity to the Nation. With billionaire owners though it has less potential to.

But I think regardless, Fosun will bin them end of this coming season, so next seasons shirt, new sponsor. Apart from anything, Moneyshop has zero relevance in China, they'll probably want their own name on the shirt or one of their quality sub-brands.

And I agree about 3rd World Country, some business people in our Country just see ordinary people as fodder to be exploited for their own benefit, no genuine sense of community or care at all, I think Moxey was one of those and so glad he's gone.

11 Aug 2016 03:53:19
Ffs do some of you wake up in the middle of the nt to have a moan
If it's a player we haven't brought it's our new owners mate a name on the shirt

10 Aug 2016 20:04:44
I'm confused about Anderson talisca transfer its now saying he's signing for 4yrs but only staying for one even if we get promoted he's set his heart on Liverpool.

10 Aug 2016 21:50:50
Don't believe the hype.
It's our time
2 weeks of madness comin up.
Hold tight enjoy the ride.

10 Aug 2016 22:26:48
The realist always calming and reassuring.

Good stuff!

10 Aug 2016 23:31:24
Hope he's right.

10 Aug 2016 18:37:25
This is still a joke club from outside looking in . we must be the only billionaire club ever to spend nothing after bringing 4 players in . to slow on and off the pitch needs to be sorted now so we can be content as a club.

10 Aug 2016 19:14:25
The Windows still open for another 3 weeks!

10 Aug 2016 19:30:30
Jesus Christ if it's the same in 3 weeks time then fair enough but we have plenty of time to make signings.

10 Aug 2016 19:41:43
We payed for bodvarsson.

10 Aug 2016 19:53:02
With the money from macdonald.

10 Aug 2016 19:57:12
Think we're keeping our powder dry until WZ has assessed the squad properly.

10 Aug 2016 17:45:43
Just an observation, but despite the wealth of our new owners and the shortcomings of our current first team squad, we haven't really spent much! Realise there's still almost 3 weeks for the transfer window to run, but I do expect substantially more invested than the previous 2 transfer windows. The squad definitely needs an uplift quality wise. Aware that it's not always about the money, but equally, we're at least 4 / 5 players short if we are serious about the play off's as a minimum and a decent level of investment is going to be required - loanees and youngsters won't suffice.

10 Aug 2016 18:07:53
Normally I'd agree about loanees, too many loan players did for Graham Turner at ShrewsburyFC I think, and / or maybe caused problems for their current guy Micky Mellon.

But in this situation, I'm not sure they are all exactly loanees in the same way, rather they are continually working for Mendes, whatever club they are at, whether temporary or permanent signing, and need to be constantly trying and impressing at whatever club and on whatever terms to keep rising and keep Mendes happy.

And I guess it's just a fact of life of being in Chump, real talent, and older proven talent is unlikely to want to box itself into that league on permanent long deals, in case we fall short of getting to Prem.

But yes, I hope it ends up with a settled committed team, and hopefully any loanees that are good are hoping we'll be promoted and they can then stay and be properly signed long-term.

10 Aug 2016 18:09:47
Loanees would suffice MWP that has been proven on a number of occasions look at Sam Allarfyce when he was at Bolton.
We have v taken loan players before and several were a great success like Lightly.
So don't go writing of loan players they can do a job at a sensible price. And if we succeed you never know they may become permanent.

10 Aug 2016 19:08:29
Dont you think it might be better to spend"enough"now in this window to plug the rickety defence/ midfield, then once the team has settled down with the new coaching staff'assess the situation then go in with more money and idea of who it is we need?

10 Aug 2016 15:50:05
Bored out my head.

10 Aug 2016 16:25:02
Pokmon.

10 Aug 2016 17:02:43
dont worry we're signing pogba tomorrow.

10 Aug 2016 17:39:53
Where's Myke_wolf? need a laugh.

10 Aug 2016 17:56:22
Stuck up some tree I think.

10 Aug 2016 15:12:03
Can't see talisca signing any time soon if his Mrs has had a baby.

10 Aug 2016 16:01:23
TBF it's a typical wolves thing to do we'll drag our heels over this and end up with know body come the end of August with the excuse in the end of we couldn't get the talisca deal over the line.

10 Aug 2016 14:51:41
Wolves are rumoured to be linked with a lot of players (true or false) but after early activity aren't landing anyone. I suspect most of the links are made up but we need to do something fast to bring in enough quality for promotion and I suspect Forsun know this. So be patient and it will probably all fall into place. Shi said they need to be smart which I suspect means loan deals with options to sign those who might do well post promotion without obligation to sign those who do not pass muster. No problem with this approach but let's make it happen.

10 Aug 2016 15:13:44
I get the impression from watching Walter in the Crawley pre-match interview he's a bit frustrated about wanting some new signings in too. Looked to me like it fitted with us waiting on Talisca and maybe a few others.

Yes I trust Fosun, and more than that, I trust Mendes due to his vested interests, he needs to make this work or he's risks looking like a clown and harming his future opportunities with the Chinese (ours and maybe others) .

One thing to consider though, I think Fosun are working to Chinese wolf culture (a corporate methodology), and that stipulates they do proper investigation, understand the field / opportunities before they attack / commit. So they might be doing much more work, considering potential players much more thoroughly and strategically than we might assume they would with the money some expect them to just throw around. I think this will come good, and be worth the wait.

10 Aug 2016 08:25:31
After last nights performance by our defence is there still anyone who thinks Batth and Hause are good enough for us.
Bringing in 2 CB's is our priority followed by a LB and CDM before this Talisca or another attacking player. Useless the pair of them, they would be top league one players now, maybe top championship players in a few years but if we've got any ambition to go up then we need to move fast this window and sort out centre defence out.

10 Aug 2016 09:15:08
Bath is just a standard center half. no pace . ball watches and can't mark for toffee.2 games 2 coners and the ball was dead center each one. now should be there 4 me.

10 Aug 2016 09:48:45
I think Danny will be fine, he is a super young man, but he needs help, he needs to work alongside a much more experienced central defender - he is still learning. The senior central defender should be skipper not Danny. This person will need to be an experienced international player who will have the respect of the new super stars about to join - but who / don't ask me. Ask Walter et al.

10 Aug 2016 10:38:50
Put like that can't argue. I do think Danny is good, and Hause, and they do deserve our support, it's just a question of whether they are at the right stage of their development / career for what we need right now.

If Walter (a top goalie so you'd think he would know if our defence is strong enough or not) thinks we need to get some more developed central defenders in to help then I totally support that.

10 Aug 2016 11:58:12
Batth is a good player but really does need experience around him as he too often gets caught out covering less experienced players (Hause/ Iorfa) . When he played alongside Ricketts he really looked the part.

10 Aug 2016 12:11:00
Maybe a lot like Roger Johnson when he had Scott Dann next to him? Though Danny has the advantage of not being a nob like Roger was, Danny genuinely cares so we should about him too, even if we conclude we do need someone more developed, we should still respect him and his dedication / loyalty / desire and hope the best for him. No need to knock him down even if we do need someone who can do more.