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06 Feb 2018 00:55:41
Ya have to wonder what was going through Beniks mind watching that first half on Sat. Mostly I think it would of been along the lines of 'Is this definitely Wolves because it ain't the Wolves I remember! ' and he wouldn't be wrong ;)

We were immense and off that display Benik could be waiting a few more weeks for a start cause who could you drop from our AWESOME 'Portuguese men of war'front line?! Even Costa looks like he's starting to find his old mojo, some filthy footwork in the corners! Then Gibbs comes on and even he gets in on the act by walking past defenders and some tidy passing to boot! Just SO much to be excited about in this team I love it!

Special credit to Nuno (I mean not just for being Nuno of course;) but also for bringing Leo on before Benik. Would have been SO easy to appease the crowd and bring Benik on first but Leo has earned that small token of respect. Pretty much says everything about Nunos man management skills, great times to be a Wolves fan! COYW ;)

BullysBoy

1.) 06 Feb 2018 08:17:29
I haven't posted since Saturdays awesome display, all I can do is echo fellow posters posts! 👍Roll on Saturday👊.


2.) 06 Feb 2018 12:11:09
I agree Bullysboy Afobe has to wait his turn it will come perhaps if one of the first choice front three is injured also Saiss has a battle to depose Alfred now.


3.) 06 Feb 2018 12:29:03
Spot on bullysboy.

I respected Nuno for that decision as well.

The pack is raring for the run in now! Let’s get behind them everywhere we play! WAW.


4.) 06 Feb 2018 14:38:13
Agreed with that BullysBoy. It's a vastly different team to the one Afobe left. He has no divine right to a hero's welcome back. Nuno handled it just right, made him wait his turn. Afobe now knows he must fight tooth and nail for a smidgen of a chance in this team. What a difference!


5.) 06 Feb 2018 14:39:04
Afobe might even find it as difficult to get a game at Wolves as he did at Bournemouth.


6.) 06 Feb 2018 18:02:59
Agree Deep, its an insurance policy in case of injuries loss of form etc, as far as I am concerned. Great signing by Nuno and the board!
UTW.


7.) 06 Feb 2018 19:14:13
Window- Hadn't thought of that one fella but your not wrong ya know, Saiss will have to work darn hard for his place because two of our best performances now have come since N'Diayes been in! I like Saiss and realise that he's technically better BUT there's solid/ won't get past me quality to N'Diaye which really helps. Hope we sign him up long term cause think he will be worth his weight in gold next season (and he's a big unit;)! Especially come the last 20 mins when trying to hold a lead in the Prem!
Deep- I also agree I almost wrote something along the same lines of having more chance of a game at Bournemouth but didn't want to seem negative on him. But ya not wrong there either, between Jota playing like that and Leos previous this season Benik is somehow third choice! Who could of imagined that a few seasons back, definitely not me! Happy Days! COYW ;)


8.) 06 Feb 2018 19:33:43
Ya know Window you've got me thinking on that now, because a large part of the reason we've got back on track is because Neves has found his magical form again. Are looking at our own Lampard/ Gerrard issue (for next season) because with N'Diaye playing it means Rueben doesn't have to do as much of the dirty work and can get forward a bit more to release that deadly right foot like at the wkend! Still good problems to be having eh! COYW ;)


9.) 07 Feb 2018 17:06:55
I like Saiss too, and never much understood why Lambert didn't give him game time. Allegedly he got miffed at Saiss linking up with his national team but I'm sure that's not all of it, if any of it.

Someone did a "Neves and N'Daiye" chant earlier in the season. These two could be our unlikely answer to Xavi and Iniesta. Someone maybe said that too.


10.) 07 Feb 2018 21:07:09
Wolves owner held a meeting with the PM in China.


11.) 08 Feb 2018 08:14:24
Let’s all just wish Benik Afobe all the best, support and encourage him to see if we can help get the best from him. I’ve seen him play several times over the last two years including the last time he played at the vitality! He seemed lost to me! Eddie H never played to his strengths and he usually came on for the last 20 mins as a sub.

So let’s all just get behind him and see if we can help him fit in, and get his Mojo back. If he can he will be an asset for us. ⚽️😉👍.


 

 

04 Jan 2018 15:32:45
Have to ask do peeps really think these Keane and Pack rumours actually have any legs? Don’t get me wrong I’m not proclaiming to have ANY knowledge of the inner workings of our club but if there’s even a smidge of truth in either rumour then I’m perplexed! Pack is a poor mans Saville and has struggled to nail down in a starting role in the City squad at times (despite the midfield being there weakest part of the team) and Robbie Keane moved to India because the MLS was getting to much for him.

I mean does anyone really believe either would improve the squad? Keane at least may offer something as an impact sub or in the coaching capacity but even then I’m sceptical as I’m just not sure he’d have the legs for this league anymore. As for Pack well I’d sooner play Price, hell I’d sooner recall Evans and that’s saying something!
Luckily the way these stories have broken does not fit the mould of recent signings, I mean there was nothing official on Mir until about 20 hours before we signed him. Hopefully this is just more naughty agents using the clubs name to drum up interest, fingers crossed.

BullysBoy

1.) 04 Jan 2018 17:17:18
Keane is a no go. phew!

Onwards and upwards!


2.) 04 Jan 2018 17:06:54
They said that about teddy sheringham? If we loss say jota ' because he is a target now and he's lucky he's not been hurt'and can't see him lasting another 20 games without some nob taking him out. then same as rav or neves. we need back up for the last 20 games to get us over the line. so if we do buy anyone its for that and subs. tbf would you rather keep bright and play him the last 20 mins or robbie.


3.) 04 Jan 2018 17:47:46
Alright Dappa. You are correct we need reinforcements but it will be done with skill and a lot of sense. It would be daft to upset the wolf pack mentality. Signing x, y and z for other reasons than improving the squad and team is daft. On sky sports they say wolves weren’t after Keane- Fake news reported last night.
I would like to see a proven striker, a midfielder that can drive forward and a rwb. They will either be prem players on loan or youngsters tempted to make a name for themselves. And they will be hand picked by Nuno.
In Nuno I trust! Let him have his chance. Mir isn’t the answer but for 2m he is worth taking a chance on you never know what we might have on our hands.


4.) 04 Jan 2018 18:33:47
Robbie K just does not fit Nuno's plans in any job. Hope it is just fake news.


5.) 04 Jan 2018 22:33:05
If we were told we'd signed a 37 year old from an Indian club, would we be impressed?


6.) 04 Jan 2018 23:25:19
If we was told ince 35 and irwin 37?


7.) 05 Jan 2018 06:32:04
No Dappa as they were past it. I wouldn’t even class Keane as a legend or cult hero. He went to soon. And then played for villa and scored a hattrick against us. After we had tried to sign him on loan. He didn’t need the money then but still went there. Even after years at Tottenham and Liverpool.

I say forget about him it’s all brand Keane for him. Not welcome at all. Lescott would be he got us to the prem, we had memeorable games and he didn’t leave under a cloud of smoke. Plus he went on to do well after playing for our academy.


8.) 05 Jan 2018 09:58:05
Have to say that I generally agree with anew here, on pretty much all counts if honest. I think we do have a habit of romanticising when it comes to old players at this place and especially with Keane. When in reality he couldn’t get out of the club fast enough and never looked back claiming all clubs after were his ‘boyhood club’ (despite the fact our youth team pretty much bringing him up after saving him from a tough background) .
Also Dappa as you ask the question (again just being honest) …. but yeah I would sooner bring Bright on than Robbie. Why…simple there's a future in doing that, ok Bright needs to learn to shot (and fast) but the lad is 19 and shows some REAL potential and by giving those weekly cameos we are building him up. Another thing on this is that when Bright come on its generally to inject some pace/ direct running against a tired team, just not sure a 37 year old with tired legs will quite do that?!
Now of course Dappa you are right in so much that a couple of squad players would help with depth but to be honest again I have to agree with anew. In so much that for me either young with potential or loans seems a far more sensible way forward than just bringing has beens back on large wages! Just my take on it but there ya go…. COYW ;)


9.) 05 Jan 2018 17:35:16
Cheers Bullysboy. I wasn’t trying to disregard Dappas point of view. But watching the wolves this season is magic. And the wolves spirit of the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s and in part 80’s is back. And Nuno should tread carefully in selecting additions. I agree with bright. I sit in the billyquiet. And this idiot behind me moans at Nuno for bringing bright on then tells everyone his rubbish. But he’s never played football. Bright comes on last twenty minutes holds up the ball and brings other players into the game such as jota and cav who are tired at that stage after playing 75 mins plus. Bright will become a good player let him develop and support every youngster wolves fans. They have an affiliation to the club and sometimes the area. COYW.


 

 

 

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06 Nov 2017 21:38:59
Sorry Turu couldn’t resist…. still think McD’s better than Saiss?! Saiss scored a blinding header against TWO players which he had NO right to win, meanwhile McD skyed an open goal? Sorry fella last time I promise but just had to ask ;)

BullysBoy

1.) 07 Nov 2017 06:23:36
Where you been Bullysboy?

Was expecting a comment from you straight after the game to be honest hahahaha!

I had humble pie and mash for tea that night after the game!

Gotta say that I may have been blinded by the fact that he was a decent player in a very average team at that time. We are now 2,3,4 times the team that was. UTW.


2.) 07 Nov 2017 20:49:46
Turu- fair play fella it takes a big man and all that! I did have a wry smile to myself thinking on it after the game I must admit. Think your also absolutely on the money as well, KMac did indeed look good/ stand out because back then the midfield he played in had very little REAL quality. Agree on both counts as well because we really are at least twice the team these days! Happy days to be a wolf…COYW ;)


 

 

18 Oct 2017 18:24:06
Ridiculous comment Jetski, guessing it’s a fake account?! Cause even if you were serious look at the other factors…we had a highest attendance since 1981 for a game which had a KO at 5:30 AND was being shown on Sky! When you consider that then it’s a stonking turnout! Also Turu have to go back to our Saiss v KMac argument and I’m sorry but your just wrong my friend!

You said Saiss is the definition of inconsistent, which player have you been watching this season?! Maybe last season under poor management and being played in the wrong role but this season he’s hardly put a foot wrong, started more games than most to boot and Nuno ain’t no fool!

Also KMac ain’t that good, this is the same player that isn’t able to get into his national team despite it being a VERY average midfield?! Whereas Saiss on the other hand is ever present in the Morroco team, pretty well respected there to. Mostly because he’s VERY consistent for them that’s despite being played out of position at CB!

All opinions are equal and all that but Saiss is clearly a better all round player, mostly because unlike KMac he can actually tackle and isn’t scared to head the ball! Lucky for us eh, he was genuinely excellent against Villa. Just sat in and did the dirty work and laid it off to Neves to spread…just what we needed.

Tell you who else impressed me was Miranda, have been a bit unsure in previous games that he was up to the physical side of this league. Well he showed last week that he absolutely is, he bossed Kodija and Adomah which is no easy feat.

Walked the line between physical and clean as well which wasn’t easy in that game. Overall guys I’m happier than a pig in a WBA shirt…. COYW! ;-)

BullysBoy

1.) 18 Oct 2017 20:36:21
Still stand by what I said bullysboy sorry.

Sais was awsome against the villa. there's no doubt that if he played anywhere near that each week he’d be dubbed one of the best mids outside the prem. my opinion was based on what I saw last season and the 4 games I've seen him this season. When he’s on it he’s hot, I just feel he loses his concentration way to much in games. i'm hoping this might be a turning point (in my view) to his wolves career and nuno has got his head (saiss) where it needs to be.

I felt a bit emotional watching that performance against the villa. Never seen a wolves come anywhere near a performance like that. Its just great to see a team that is so confident and comfortable on the ball. Getting gooses thinking about it now. Great time to be a wolves fan!


2.) 18 Oct 2017 23:59:53
Turu, fair enough fella I do hope you are right and he goes on to make that midfield his own along with Rueben. In fairness I really do think he was hampered last season as Zenga tried to play him as a creative player then Lambert didn’t really seem to know where to play him either. Think between the quality in the coach room and the extra class he now has around him he could be a real pivotal player for us, here’s to hoping. Have to agree on the other point as well, was one of the most electric atmospheres I’ve EVER seen down at the Mol for that last game! That period towards the end where they’d been well beaten and we were just pinging it round as the crowd cheered louder with each tidy pass…well like you say great times indeed! In Nuno we trust! ;)


3.) 19 Oct 2017 08:48:44
Imo saiss last season was ruined by bad management I could see his heart was not in it destroyed by the woeful lambert he was great at making passes to the opposition. as soon as lanbert was out and nuno in I thought come on saiss show us what you're really made of and he has more than I could of ever of imagined. mcdonald good top championship player at best imo once his heart is not in wolves he's a at best average player.


4.) 20 Oct 2017 14:13:00
There has been significant improvement in several players this season, Saiss for sure, plus Coady and certainly Danny B - long may it continue.


 

 

16 Aug 2017 15:31:02
Everyone on the Premiership bandwagon! ;) I am of course kidding but my word it’s getting harder with each performance not to start dreaming the dream! What’s SO exciting is not just the results but the quality of footy we seem to be playing, it’s like nothing I’ve seen us do before in decades of owning a season ticket!

The other reason its SO easy to get carried away for me is because the signings aren’t even the most exciting element, its that ONE signing that truly matters. Nuno! Sure the Wolvesugal wonder kids are great to watch don’t get me wrong (Neves goal was something else) but its all about the man pulling the strings.

Think this is an element of Fosun most of us previously over looked (myself included) because their track record had been verging on odd with manager choices, but now that we're here was it?

I heard about Lopetegui coming to the club before I’d even heard the Fosun link and that was clearly the plan i. e a top end manager (lets not forget why he didn’t come) . So when that fell through they didn’t want to rush a big contract so went for a short term wildcard Zenga.

When that went wrong they had probs written off the season so turned to the man who was about for free and with many a relegation battle on his CV just to be sure things didn’t go south! They were clearly never intending to stick with Lambert so again just another interim while they accessed the REAL options.

In steps Nuno, when you actually look at his record its INSANE that they even managed to get him but that’s clearly where Fosun were putting the time/ resources. And it seems to be working, his man management seems a different level to previous.

How many of us expected Cav to come straight back in for Bright? Would have been SO easy but Nuno see’s potential and has the backroom to help find it (blinding assist after a good game at Derby)! Oh and by the by let's not forget those wonder kids / superstars mostly came for him.

Peeps talk about Mendes influence but it wasn’t his name that Neves, Jota, Miranda and Boly dropped when they arrived…it was Nunos! I know its only three games but hell why not. IN NUNO WE TRUST! COYW.

BullysBoy

1.) 16 Aug 2017 16:21:08
Can't agree more, after the Leicester game I said Nuno was the best acquisition we've made this season. Really happy it's going so well for him.

Exciting times for us all with 3 league wins on the bounce against some strong and fancied teams. When Costa returns we could really kick on.

All we need now is to keep our players injury free and get a quality striker. The prize for promotion is £150m, Fosun has the money to invest, may need to bend FFP rules but the right CF would almost guarantee us promotion.


2.) 16 Aug 2017 22:06:06
Nuno reminds me of mourinho but calmer and less arrogant he puts the work in and seems to go over every detail can see him being the best wolves manager of my lifetime ( I started with graham turner ) certainly playing the best football.


 

 

03 Aug 2017 06:51:52
Just can’t wait for this season to start now, opening day and a full house at the Mol does it get better?! Thanks for the welcome guys and I feel I should to respond Ulf (as I’m guessing that’s how this works? ). First and foremost just to say I think its pretty safe to say I am not going to change your mind on this which is fine as everyone has an opinion and that seems to be the point here…. but ;)

You do seem to have a lot of fairly personal knowledge regarding Beniks thoughts and private conversations with the club which I have to assume is purely conjecture on your part?! How do we know they promised him anything player wise, seems unlikely considering who was in control of the cheque book at the time?

Speaking of if he REALLY believed that we’d replace Sako like for like then he was an absolute fool as it flew entirely in the face of Morgans stewardship. To replace Sako would have cost around £7-10m…more than we had spent collectively in the previous three windows combined!

I also take serious issue with the ‘well he was lied to so was entitled to be sulky/ lazy…. complete nonsense! He’s a grown adult and a (very) well paid professional at that so simply being in a sulk cause your friend isn’t with you is pathetic and also shows a lacking of the kind of mental strength needed at the top level, I mean let's get real he’d only signed a contact six months before!

Also you seem to write off that initial stint in the Prem as a settling period which I will allow but how about last season? He had a full preseason with the club, a good run at the first team with Wilson injured for much of it and still only 6 goals in 32 apps…. to put that into context Junior Stanislas scored more in fewer appearances (7 goals, 22 apps) and he’s a winger (and an average one at that)!

Also Camo just to say I would seriously debate that Ebanks-Blake was far more clinical than Benik, in his first two seasons with us Blake scored 37 goals in 60 apps whereas Benik was 22 goals in 46 apps. Sadly like Benik though Blake never could quite do it in the Prem…real shame that.

Besides all that the fact is we have absolutely not a clue that he would even return, but I suspect not. For which I wouldn’t blame him because to return to a previous club and bouncing back down a league is pretty much accepting that he’s not good enough for the Prem and whilst you may be sure of the lads ego I think for any player that would be a tough pill to swallow, let alone a player that had a rather public spat with the club after leaving! Just my view of things but there ya go UTW.

BullysBoy

1.) 03 Aug 2017 07:15:20
Welcome BullysBoy. Excellent post. Some common sense - sometimes sadly lacking here :-)


2.) 03 Aug 2017 08:15:42
The main issue with Adobe in the second season was Jacketts complete mis-management of a 22 year old. He allowed him to drift around mainly dropping into midfield, which left us short up top. I agree that no one should sulk when being paid so much, but I am afraid it is human nature.


3.) 03 Aug 2017 08:19:44
Wow is that you Jez?


4.) 03 Aug 2017 09:13:42
the main issue with Adobe is you have to keep updating flash player.


5.) 03 Aug 2017 09:50:56
Afobe was quite a flash player for us. Never an acrobat though.


6.) 03 Aug 2017 10:45:14
At the end of the last game in the 2014-2015 Season, Moxey publicly and very loudly declared that we were going to replace Sako, and that Morgan knew it was going to cost proper money. He did it at the stadium, the E7S ran a big article on it. They could have got young Ince. Then they didn't bother at all, they replaced Sako with a free loan of a junior development player off Morgan's mates at Liverpool.

Moxey actively lied about replacing Sako with a player costing decent money, to pretend ambition, to sell more season tickets, and to help keep our best players. They misled everyone, hoping to wing it to the Prem on a shoestring before Morgan sold at a profit.

And that's common knowledge. The fact they didn't replace Sako, and then also sold PotS Stearman, is why fans turned on Morgan in the carpark at Preston. M&M misled everyone over that last season.

I still want Thelwell to leave the club over what he said about Afobe, he was just trotting out Moxey's spin doctoring BS, trying to blame Afobe for Moxey's and Morgans ducking and diving. Zero class.


7.) 03 Aug 2017 11:30:51
Ulf, I don’t disagree that the two M’s were pulling the wool during that entire episode with an eye on the future sale of the club that’s all kind of a different debate. What I take issue with is your assumption that Afobe was just a mere victim in his transfer who had his hand forced which is nonsense and makes out like he is some child that things just happened around. The fact is he had his head turned in that same transfer window before we’d even had a chance to replace Sako and that was why he got the sulk. I don’t blame him for it, many other players have (and looking at our current team sheet) no doubt will in the future also have their heads turned…. it’s the nature of the beast! Still let's not re-write history and pretend that he was some martyr to the club eh, he got a sniff of the Prem (not to mention Prem wages) and didn’t want to wait around for it simple as that! Also AGAIN you have completed swept over his entirely average performances for all of last season…thoughts on that?
Don’t get me wrong if we re-signed him I don’t doubt that he would score at this level and of course I would back him all the way. BUT if he did come back (which I find entirely unlikely on his part) I would want it to be on loan, so he can help us out of this league without having to spend big money on a player who looks increasingly like he will never cut the mustard in the Prem!


8.) 03 Aug 2017 11:32:52
Also they sold Stearman cause he is also distinctly average! In fact they did darn well to get what they did for him with just 12 months left on his contract! Which is also why he didn't cut the mustard second time round or at Fulham. A Fulham defence which when they signed him was one of the worst in the league. and they still sent him out on loan the following season!


9.) 03 Aug 2017 12:21:11
M&M kept Afobe that summer, by promising to spend money and bring in a decent player to replace Sako, to maintain our push for the Prem, then they didn't. It was a con to sell season tickets and to keep Afobe, Morgan was gambling for big personal profit, on a free loan from Liverpool doing the job, he was gambling much longer odds on promotion than he was leading others to believe were the odds, and then when the gamble failed, expected other people to carry on regardless, making the best of it. When they complained, he threw a strop and pretended fans had upset him so much he was selling the club. If I was Afobe, I'd think I'd been lied to, cynically used, and treated like a fool.

It was typical Moxey, he misled, created false expectations, then blamed others for them, he tried to blame Afobe for him not going along with being misled and his time wasted.


10.) 03 Aug 2017 12:25:00
Being sold in that manner, after being PotS, Stearman's head had obviously gone at Fulham.

We were in league winning form for the last half of the previous season, Stearman was part of that. We had a promotion winning team, and M&M broke it and lost all of its momentum.


11.) 03 Aug 2017 12:44:01
Re Afobe being over sensitive. Often, very gifted people have their gifts because of their brain makeup, it's part of natural human bio-diversity consequential of evolution. Most of the population are left brained / evolved into settled farmer types, are objective, patient, measured, achieve things by putting a shift in. Then there's also a minority of people who are right brained, like hunters. It potentially makes them physically much faster and more capable, they run on instinct and are in the zone, they achieve things with moments of magic. They tend to end up drop outs, or artists, or sportspeople. Like George Best, or Ozzy Osbourne or Syd Barrett, like loads of stars. The Americans call it A-List disorder it effects so many gifted stars. They need to be treated with kid gloves, because by their nature everything is more immediate and real to them. M&M treated Afobe like he was a bricklayer putting a shift in, it was completely wrong.

With the much higher quality / gifted players we'll hopefully be seeing in our future, Wolves fans need to start accepting stars are difficult, and not because they're spoiled.


12.) 03 Aug 2017 12:51:44
Haha, brilliant so now Stearmans lack of ability is somehow Fulhams fault as well?! Weirdest thing then that the season they got rid was also there best season in a while, must be coincidence that eh! Also you are showing the classic example of those rose tinted specs I spoke of, I saw virtually every home game Stearman played at the club and the fact is he is an average champ defender, not a bad one I grant you just not a good one. Which is also why he has found himself at a newly promoted Sheff Utd rather than any other clubs coming in for him.
Speaking of rose tinted for the last time (as I feel we are going round in a Morgan based circle which had nothing to do with my original point) what about Beniks VERY average season last year then?! Let me guess Bournemouth’s fault for not buying him the right coloured boots?! My word footballers get an easy ride, make more in a week than most do in a year and still have ZERO accountability for their own performance… cause its always the club that’s at fault and never the other way round…. ridiculous!


13.) 03 Aug 2017 13:10:09
Hi I'm new here but been following this page for about a year now. (Not sure if my previous post submitted) but anyway. In regards to Bonatini I think that we shouldn't be quick to assume that he won't be able to cut it in the championship because he played in a league not up to the standard or pace of the championship because statistics should do the talking. As I'm sure you already know he scored 20 goals for Estoril in 37 games which is a good return. They finished 8th that season so they aren't a poor team but they are no Benfica or Porto with champions league players. Remember that now he has Cav Costa Jota Graham Neves etc supplying him. I'm happy to be corrected or receive a counter argument but just my opinion. I agree also with a previous post I saw earlier that he may not be the 20 goal a season striker but Cav Costa Jota could chip in with 10 or so each!


14.) 03 Aug 2017 13:17:00
I think to a certain extent Afobe's head has gone, because of the manner of the transfer and trying to fit into a new team at a higher level, I think his confidence is down. I think he needed to get a team promoted to the Prem, earn a golden boot in the process, and hit the Prem running in a team he was already gelled with, like Andre Gray did. And, Bournemouth fans seem to think him a better Prem player (or at least prospect) than Burnley fans seem to think Andre Gray is. With Nuno as coach, I think he'd kickstart Afobes development again, and at 24 has the chance to develop.

Re Stearman, teams get promoted with lots of average players, like Burnly did, it's not about top quality in all positions, it's about team spirit and momentum. Stearman worked in a team mix that worked.


15.) 03 Aug 2017 13:46:58
My word Ulf you don’t half try to turn your own views and conjecture into fact, all that stuff about ‘players heads gone’ is entirely your own assumed opinion rather than based on any REAL knowledge of that players mental state! If Afobe needed to win a golden boot maybe he should have hung around long enough to earn one?! You also seem to spend a lot of time finding excuses for players whilst ignoring the glaringly obvious…ie they just ain’t that good! Some players make a fine trade in the Champ whilst never being up to the Prem and I think both Stears and Benik are proving to fit that mold.
Anyway I think this debate is done…. mostly because you just compared the ‘genius’ of Benik ‘I can’t get into the Bournemouth squad’ Afobe to that of George Best?! One of the most technically gifted players to EVER kick a ball…. I mean are you actually serious?! To be honest with that level of blinkered Benik appreciation this whole debate becomes pointless as you are clearly unable to approach this from an impartial place. So let's agree to disagree and both have a good season, besides I should be thanking you as you have entirely proven my point regarding our fans ability to look back with a rose tinted view of things. Just try not to moan too much about a board that have already spent more than the club was worth when they bought it on recruitment alone eh ;)


16.) 03 Aug 2017 14:56:04
I didn’t compare the ability of George Best with Afobe, just like I wasn’t comparing his singing ability with Ozzy or his song writing ability with Barrett. I was pointing out performers / stars have different personalities and difficult temperaments, it goes with their gifts.

And genius is the wrong term, it’s not a clever idea, it’s natural, they’re better at it the less they think, they’re faster / more correct precisely because they think less or bypass thinking altogether. They run on instinct and emotion instead, which is why they’re so difficult. They can get themselves in a mess thinking too much, which is what I think Afobe has ended up doing.

I understand some players are like they are doing a trade. But the people with star potential and real quality, like Afobe, aren’t doing a trade, they’re artists / hunters, not architects / farmers, and treating them like tradesmen can do no good. Morgan and Moxey seeing everything like a trade is exactly how they got everything wrong at Wolves.

I think some Wolves fans are in for a shock, the modern World does intellectualise and conjecture, the big clubs are full of fans doing it, without it being being shouted down as crazy or them accused of being WUM's. The modern World is knocking on Wolves door :-)


17.) 03 Aug 2017 15:02:37
Hope we never see Afobe in a Wolves shirt. He is unprofessional with an attitude problem, doe not seem prepared to get down and graft. He has an excellent management team at Bournemouth who have given him every help but he does not seem able or willing work for his team.


18.) 03 Aug 2017 15:02:37
Also, re Fosun have spent more than the club is worth. Yes I've done nothing but praise Fosun, but they're not doing us a favour, Wolves has the identity and brand potential to be worth it. We deserved owners like Fosun and this kind of investment to take us back to the top of football, thought Morgan was a fool not doing that himself, he had completely the wrong ideas, and I predicted we deserved this since Morgan put the club up for sale. It is fated.

I've no doubt Fosun will make it work, but it may take several seasons. I hope not though and hope it's this one :-)


19.) 03 Aug 2017 16:05:41
Oh dear Ulf, I think its you that misunderstands as you seem to be confusing intellectualising with your own complete uninformed assumption regarding any given situation then taking that assumption as FACT when it really isn’t. Truth is you know nothing of the inner dealings/ thoughts of Benik or the club for that matter (as do none of us), you simply think by dressing it up in psycho-babble that you justify nothing more than one fans opinion. I LOVE that you REALLY believe that you are a step a head of Wolves in terms of sports psychoanalysis…I mean they only have paid professionals doing it as a career at the highest level it so what would they know …. hilarious!
Only thing funnier is your unwavering belief in Beniks ‘star potiential’ despite all proof otherwise 10 goals in two Prem seasons at 24 at this rate he’ll be retired before realising that potential . Afobe an artist behave…he’s a top end Chump striker at best and from what I can see pretty much everyone (including other fans and clubs) can see that bar you! I mean let's get real again, there are hardly teams knocking the door down to sign him, jez even we’ve been non-committal. Clearly all those trained professionals around the game just don’t know a genius when they see one, including Arsene Wenger…but then what does he know about developing young talent?! Cheers though, I needed a good giggle mate ;)


20.) 03 Aug 2017 16:08:33
Re Wimbournewolf, Bournemouth are a phoenix resurrection on a mission, with a team and manager gelled by it all. It may be why Afobe has struggled to fit in, and I trust Nuno, whose on recording professing he improves players and has backing of Mendes and trust of people like Neves, to be in another coaching league altogether. Especially with Portugal Euro Champs, remembering Mendes saying after Germany won World Cup Spain were in decline and the future was Portugal. It's Wolves too, Afobe should come back to get better, be with the future :-)


21.) 03 Aug 2017 16:53:28
BullysBoy, I didn't suggest Afobe was top Prem potential, but he's a quality Prem player in the right team and system, and there's every reason to believe he'd fit with our system and get the goals to see us promoted. That's as much as Andre Gray offers, but 2 years younger so with more potential and safer investment on holding value while he did a job before resale. That was the point.

As for the rest we’ll have to agree to disagree. I haven’t stated anything as fact, obviously just my opinion, what seems to me to be common sense. And Wolves psychology hasn’t been great has it, let lots of good players pass them by. RVParra is a recent example, on the back of a sensitive talent because he didn’t put a shift in, ejected from the club to go and win promotion with Huddersfield. And score against us in the process. Their local newspaper described him as sensational in Feb 2017.

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22.) 03 Aug 2017 18:07:59
A few interesting points brought up regarding afobe. If i remember right his head was turned on a big move for him way before bournemouth snapped him up. Norwich chased him with numerous overtures for months. There was a difference in sako and his demeanour in that sako continued to put a shift in yet like a few have stated afobe lost interest.

Ulf is right in that moxey spun the yarn in that he was going to spend big to replace him which as we all knew was bull.
The bottom line is what's dones done, leave our rubbish parts of history where it belongs under the file of bhattis, chorley, etc.

Afobe has shown that he can't take the next step. Also wouldn't be an assett or any value in buying him if he did want to move, ie always sell at a loss. Remember the shelf life of a footballer at any club is short.


23.) 03 Aug 2017 18:21:22
Ulf, if Afobe can not blossom under the excellent management, motivation and nurturing at Bournemouth, he seriously has not got what it takes. There is no better set up to bring the best out of players who want to work. He seems to think he is a megastar without having done anything of great merit. Sure, he has talent, but no application, something Eddie Howe, or any other manager will not waste time on.


24.) 03 Aug 2017 18:41:00
I suspect Bournemouth may be too business like / commercial, compared to Wolves which is more family / nurturing. It's the impression I got from their forum, and makes sense with their history, their turnaround and now inflated position. They're an operation, I'm sure a very nice one, they appear to have brought Afobe's mate Wiltshire on loan to the club to help him settle. Afobe professes about how it helped him settle and he's now in the right place. I don't think he's gelled and that's the issue, I think Nuno is more 'feel' than business like, I think he'd make more of him. Mendes trusts him with some of his best young players prospects.


 

 

02 Aug 2017 17:54:04
Hi all, first time poster I am a lifelong fan and season ticket holder. I have been following this page for some time and wanted to chip in on this current thread regarding recruitment.

My word us Wolves fans seem to be a sentimental bunch, exciting new project with manager and players to boot yet still all some are saying is…. ’oh if only Afobe and Sako were here’! It seems like you get a free pair of rose tinted specs with every season ticket, to look back over past players.

Why not focus on the very fact that those players coming is realistic and why that is…I’ll tell you why because both have been completely found out at the highest level! Sako on his day in the Champ was class but mostly relied on strength to power past people whilst lacking a decent delivery, to be honest Graham (if injury free) already looks twice as good!

As for Afobe the ONLY reason he’s seen as available is because they have replaced him with a 35 year old who was playing in the MLS two years ago! Again on his day Afobe can be good but the reason he hasn’t cut it at the top is the same reason Arsenal sold him for buttons…simply not good enough at that level.

Sure he looks good in the Champ where he got three chances a game and just had to finish one but look at his stats now…10 goals in two seasons hardly setting the world a light is he?! Maybe Fosun are actually trying to build something, and you don’t do that by simply rushing out and buying a striker that you know isn’t good enough for the next level else we would be left in the unenviable position the Cherries are currently in of trying to recoup some of the money we spent on striker that will never be up to it in the Prem!

Also for those saying he didn’t have a bad game for us well he certainly did…a bad four months in fact! Never forget the game against Brum where he was like a by stander for most the match. Get a grip people and try to focus on the future and the many positives it is bringing! Neves is still the youngest captain to EVER play in the CL and this season he’ll be playing for little old Wolves…still feels a bit like a dream every time I think on it!

I’m sure we’ll get another striker but these things take time if you rush around throwing money at things you end up like Villa with Ross McCormack taking up a quarter of your wage bill with little to no chance of moving him on, we’ve already done the bomb squad thing once not again please! UTW ;)

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1.) 02 Aug 2017 18:13:24
Well said Bullysboy, common sense at last. 😀😀😀👍👍🙏.


2.) 02 Aug 2017 18:15:22
Well said BullysBoy . 👏👏 like how positive you are about the fosun revolution .


3.) 02 Aug 2017 18:38:21
I don't agree at all, Afobe lost all of his personal momentum by transferring to a Prem team and trying to fit into something that was already successful, he's not an arrogant enough personality.

When he joined us, he completely turned our season around, if the points tally from when he was here had been across whole season, we'd have won the league.

Fans have a problem with him because he stopped trying in the 2015-16 season, but he'd been lied to - they promised to replace Sako and didn't, sold Steareman, Morgan could see the season was a failure from the start, put the club up for sale. Afobe only stayed over the summer because M&M promised to replace Sako, then didn't, they betrayed his trust. Then expected him to waste a year of his career and development treading water in the Chump, to help cover their asses. Morgan was a playboy billionaire who expected other people to take responsibility for his gambles. It was ridiculous, of course Afobe's morale was broken and he stopped trying. He still scored loads of goals. I doubt any of our Portuguese stars would be very different if they were misled and their time wasted.


4.) 02 Aug 2017 18:59:44
I wonder whether Stearman was sold as a way of bringing in a bit of money to offset holding on to Afobe in the summer. But it only delayed the inevitable. Assessment about the difference between chances in the Championship and in the Premiership is spot on. Look at SEB's record.


5.) 02 Aug 2017 19:00:19
Talking a lot of sense, no one can guarantee promotion but this is the most excited the fans have been for a long time, let's just get behind the team and manager and see where it takes us.


6.) 02 Aug 2017 19:12:43
Top post bullysboy 👍👏 sorry Ulf but obviously many fans feel the same about Afobe, in a nutshell completely unprofessional.


7.) 02 Aug 2017 19:22:16
How was his time wasted, he got paid. Half the time he didn't try. You do that at work or you're up the road. Footballers don't show a good example to kids, he was an arrogant big fish in a small pond.


8.) 02 Aug 2017 20:09:41
I live on the south coast and saw Afobe play 5 times last season for the cherries. He's Rubbish. Not the same as he was with us. Forget Afobe. ⚽️👍😉.


9.) 02 Aug 2017 20:56:22
Re Studeley Wolf, these players live 24/ 7 to be best footballers they can be, especially from an academy like Arsenal and while they're still trying to make it. It is their entire life and a short career. It's not like being paid to do a 9-5 job.

Morgan and Moxey expected Afobe to tread water for a season, staying at Wolves that had given up ambition, to help them out of the hole they'd put everyone in, by not replacing Sako. I think Afobe was a victim of M&M just like the fans were, it was Moxey's sly spin doctoring to pretend we were all victims of Afobe.

Re Wolvescoast, I think the move shot his momentum and confidence, he needed to get a team promoted to the Prem and win a golden boot, and hit the Prem in a team he was already gelled with, like Andre Gray did.


10.) 02 Aug 2017 21:39:14
Afobe is the most composed finisher we have had down the mol for several years. His performances dipped when he was in his sulking phase, but his finishing was still clinical. He was fed broken promises and no one could blame him for leaving. I would take him back tomorrow as with the superb quality we have bought this summer he has the ability to net 30+, never mind 20.


11.) 02 Aug 2017 22:02:27
Ulf, for gods sake stop banging on about Afobe all the time. It's all we see on here of late.

He ain't coming back, we don't need him back. He had his chance, he had his day. The club- board, management, team and ambitions, have all moved on. It's a time to look forward, with anticipation, not look back through rose tinted glasses. We are moving on.
Marching on, moving on, moving up.


12.) 02 Aug 2017 23:15:24
Afobe did well for a bit then when he needed to roll his sleeves up he went off and sulked finally got his move scored a few goals then got dropped if you're any good you prove you're worth and win your place afobe ain't done that its a new dawn and there's better things to come the door on afobe needs to remain shut I think leo will prove his worth we were all a bit uncertain of a mr bull but look how he turned out wolvesaywe.


13.) 02 Aug 2017 23:44:53
Afobe is one of the few things M&M got right, and I suspect it was more Winkleman at MK Dons pointing him out to them and putting a good word in. He's the right fit for what we should be trying to become, at this stage of our and his development it's a perfect quality match.


 

 

 

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23 Feb 2018 23:53:00
Camo - Benik has now played with Costa, Cav and Jota let's get real its not the players around him its just his confidence! Not Beniks fault and I'm sure he'll turn the corner once he scores but let's not keep clutching for nonsense excuses eh?! The last few games he's come on around the same time as MGW and both times he has been entirely outshone by a 17 year old! Which is great as the 17 year old is our player but let's not keep trying to find excuses for a player that is just lacking confidence simple as that! I do wonder. if it was Leon Clarke missing all these chances would folk be SO forgiving?! History tells me the answer is no, and he was one of our own! Funny old world eh! COYW ;)

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23 Feb 2018 23:47:06
Sorry Perton but have to agree with others here, whilst I understand peeps being reserved (I mean we all remember DJ's 11 point lead) but c'mon fella let's be realistic! You write 'nothing I've seen that tells me this season will be any different' well in which case I can only assume you haven't seen one of our better games this season?! Because when we smashed Villa at the Mol that was (ironically) like nothing I've EVER seen down at the Mol before! let's all just stay calm and keep a bit of perspective here! COYW ;)

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23 Feb 2018 23:41:06
Exeter - I agree with your premise here BUT before dropping down to the Champ I would argue that Jota, Neves and Cav were as big names (if not bigger) than Tallisca! Neves is still the youngest player to wear the Capts armband in the Champs League with Jota and Cav being bought by Athletico and Monaco as 'the next big things'! Tallisca on the other hand was touted round Europe and had only Turkish clubs come in for him! Don't get me wrong I don't doubt he's class and would love us to get him BUT we have already signed 'big' names! we've all just got SO used to it that we (myself included) already take those 'big names' for granted! Just shows how quickly things have changed, happy days! COYW ;)

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12 Feb 2018 17:29:55
Think peeps do need to calm down a little, at what point did having an opinion on a player constitute wanting them to fail or not backing the team for that matter?! Like many on here I back my team most weeks when I make a long round trip and spend good money to watch them play, will always support any player that's wearing the colours provided they are giving there all for the team!
Yes its great to be winning hell its a great time to be a Wolves fan! But if just cause we are winning people can't have opinions on players then this forum will get awful quiet for the next few months! For what its worth I thought Ruddy had a poor game at the weekend as well, doesn't mean I want him to fail simply means the guy himself has set higher standards that's all! Relax people, we don't all have to agree that's what makes this fun! COYW ;)

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12 Feb 2018 15:58:40
That is a very valid point anew and one which had dawned on me, simply put we won't be given the kind of room that our expansive game has enjoyed next year! A high press is all the rage these days and when you watch Huddersfield this wkend pressing Bournemouth into submission it doesn't take a genius to see that we are going to need a plan B. In fact when you look at it historically most teams that have played quality expansive footy in the Champ have often come undone when taking that to the Prem and no one here wants that to be us! I'm not sure what the answer is if honest although I trust Nuno to work it out. Maybe some kind of 4-5-1 for away/ big matches which allows us to flood the midfield?! Time will tell COYW :)

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17 Feb 2018 21:28:29
Didn't see him today but overall I do like Ruddy, for me there isn't a better shot stopper in the Champ! Where he struggles is in his decision making which can be shaky and that in turns knocks onto affect both his and the teams confidence in him to command the area! It is one of those catch 22's mind as if he didn't have said weakness then we wouldn't even have him as he would of been snapped up to the Prem because the rest of his game is fairly solid. For me if/ when we sort auto with games to spare I would like to see some rotation and part of that would be a couple of starts for Norris (and Gibbs for that matter) . I suspect though that we will sign another experienced keep in the next window as more established competition which probably wouldn't be a bad thing in the Prem. I do hope we keep Norris mind, from the limited games I've seen he looks like a VERY good prospect for what in keepers terms is a fairly young player. COYW.

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17 Feb 2018 21:20:13
Nuno also mentioned the problem with set pieces and defensively for me that has in fact been our biggest weakness! Nuno seems to favour zonal marking for set pieces but either the players don't get it or the system just ain't effective enough because it has been our biggest (only) flaw most of this season! For a defence as tidy as ours that was another VERY soft goal to concede!
I trust Nuno to fix it but I do hope its sooner rather than later because if we go to the Prem with that kind of weakness then teams will simply play to get the set piece and then beast us during them (like the Stoke of old) . Sure Nuno will get us up to speed but think as a club we all need to take a step back and remember just how ruthless the Prem is with any kind of such weakness and then get it sorted asap! Still at least none of our players are out playing with taxis! COYW ;)

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16 Feb 2018 22:17:05
Thing is when talking bums on seats nothing is simple, cause when considering the numbers involved windows point of bigger in the uk for the other two is pretty vital! Especially when you consider the size of the catchment areas each of those three clubs are in population wise! Greater Manchester aprox 2.5m, London aprox 8.5m, Wolverhampton aprox 250000-300000! So we need an entire 10% of the locals to fill our stadium (thats a HUGE percentage) as shown by the equivalent percentage that the other two would need to sell out! Also on that to be fair to City they were a decent sized club when the money came, I remember back in the 90's when they were div 2 (current League One) and pundits just couldn't understand how they were getting 30k+ gates weekly! They are Manchester's first team. but ONLY if you actually live in Manchester!

Of course we will grow steadily if we maintain the kind of club growth we've seen in the past two years (just look at our own attendance growth) . But overall Big your not wrong, its just not as easy as it used to be to put a club on the map these days. the market place is just SO crowded! Sure Fosun will get us there but agreed that patience is certainly going to be needed! COYW.

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11 Feb 2018 04:07:35
Jas- its am absolute disgrace mate! How is this being ignored at this day in age, mind we can hardly be surprised when you consider who FIFA have given the next two WC's too sadly says it all really! Mind you its hard for the ref because they can't change a country and have to try and control the game. What should happen is that ANY team that has a serious contingent of fans found doing that should be made to play behind closed doors for 5 matches with any tv moneys forfeited to race related charities (rolling on for as many games as it happens)! If FIFA bought something like that in watch European clubs clamp down on it overnight, got to hit um where it hurts! Just has NO place in society for it much less football! ; (.

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11 Feb 2018 03:59:13
Agree with the general gist on here, hope no one was thinking I was getting on Afobes back because was just saying my assessment of the player. Mostly trying to defend him to be honest by pointing out that he's been low on confidence for a while so patience may be needed. Regardless as others say as long as he's a wolf I will always back any player!
Also have to agree with Jas sentiment, let's all REALLY try and enjoy the ride because we are smashing a league for the first and last time in what could be a good while!
One thing I would say though is let's be fair, peeps saying 'lets give Benik a chance' where also saying 'we need to sign a striker cause Leo and Mir ain't up to it'. Well Leo smashed the first half of the season before he got literally worn out! And Beniks now had around the same time in the league as Mir had but some were ready to write Mir off after a few sub appearances! I suppose my point was that Leos had earned some loyalty and two months ago Real wanted to get Mir! And all of that is academic because its currently Jotas place!
Think we can all agree if they wear old gold and are part of the pack then we back um, but let's remember that all round eh! COYW ;)

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