30 Jul 2017 15:46:51
We all know by signing Andre Gray we would be in the top 3 this season. so basically it's going to cost the 20m reported to get us there. pretty good deal?

1.) 30 Jul 2017
30 Jul 2017 16:41:28
No! Too much negative anti-glamorous baggage, too urban. At 26 too developed. Whoever is Wolves talisman to lead us to the Prem in Fosuns renaissance will brand the club with their identity. Andre Gray is too close to Andy Gray, but with baggage.

Afobe is the obvious choice. Younger so still a prospect, feels like ours because was in KJ's team so would keep everything feeling real, has class. In every way Afobe is right for what Wolves are supposed to be trying to do and become.

I hope Fosun get it right, everything else they've done (apart from not binning Moneyshop) has been excellent :-)

2.) 30 Jul 2017
30 Jul 2017 17:00:22
What do you mean by 'too urban'?

3.) 30 Jul 2017
30 Jul 2017 17:48:56
Scar from gang fight, renowned for homophobic tweets, renown for being with small town working class club Burnley. Add it to Wolves having some very poor run down areas, known for being depressed, having Moneyshop on the shirt, it will look to the modern English middle class like broken Britain has broken out into their World. It's not glam / classy, which is what our heritage is and where the big modern market is (that Burnley will never tap into) .

Afobe is opposite, from glam Arsenal, a gent, no issues and young enough to become us, especially having been in KJ's team and already part of us.

4.) 30 Jul 2017
30 Jul 2017 17:53:16
If he was a few years younger and not already such a big name (for having got Burnley promoted), so he could grow with us and become us, wouldn't think it much of an issue.

5.) 30 Jul 2017
30 Jul 2017 19:20:53
Very dramatic posts Ulf.

Sure Burnley will love your posts too, very respectful!

Afobe an absolute gent who made it quite clear he wanted out?!

Don't get me wrong, I'd welcome Gray or Afobe as long as they performed and set a good example to younger fans going forward - bit harsh to judge people on their past.

6.) 30 Jul 2017
30 Jul 2017 20:02:04
I'm only seeing it from a marketing point of view. I remember when Wolves got promoted to Prem (can't remember if it was Jones or McCarthy era though) when a National paper had a story entitled, beware these wolves in wolves clothing. Effectively announcing to the Nation that broken Britain had reached the Prem.

I don't doubt Gray is a nice bloke and would do it for us, I don't doubt he'd be a big hit locally.

I don't dislike Burnley but they are one of the Northwests many smaller town working class clubs. A decade in the Prem wouldn't make them as glam as us, just like it wouldn't the Baggies :-)

7.) 30 Jul 2017
30 Jul 2017 20:10:33
There will be another striker.

8.) 30 Jul 2017
30 Jul 2017 21:56:43
Ulf burnley are one of the football leagues founding members, along with ourselves amongst others. Also generated 80,000 + fans at wembley in the sherpa van final with us. Doubt at that time chelsea or man city would have filled wembley with us if they were in the same position. Give clubs like burnley the credit they deserve as without them we wouldn't have a pyramid football system.

9.) 31 Jul 2017
30 Jul 2017 23:19:52
I know, I have total respect for them, I'm sure they have a big fan base. But like Baggies, they don't have potential to be glamorous and with big market reach. Outside of the Prem there are only a few that have, us, Notts Forest and Leeds are main ones.

10.) 31 Jul 2017
31 Jul 2017 07:45:14
Funny that Ulf, I would have thought "class" and "glam" was not having to put others down and refer to them as "working class". I thought that football was originally a "working class" ( I hate the term) game. Have prawn sandwiches taken you over and consumed you? You comments speak volumes.

11.) 31 Jul 2017
31 Jul 2017 08:48:09
Gray had no choice over where he was born or how his circumstances affected his view of the world. He knew that he had to get out to move on so that is what he did. I have full respect for the effort and determination he has applied in making himself the best he can be. That is the story that the new diverse Britain needs to hear. Those tweets were years ago and were the stupidity of youth. If England had played a forward pair of Feeney and Gray it would not be pretty but who would want to play against them? Personally if I was Gray I would never go back but if he does come he'll get my backing.

12.) 31 Jul 2017
31 Jul 2017 11:45:51
wollabby, I've had this lots from some Wolves fans, it's not my prejudice, it's their chip on their shoulder, compounded by how Moxey wrongly positioned the club, aiming for us to be a new Everton. Modern society is increasingly artisan / class-less and inclusive, it's the future. And that's great because that's the kind of club Wolves was originally, like Man U, Liverpool, Villa etc. It's why we were massive / National and have the potential to be again. Our glam kind of club contrasts with the other kind, which is urban, local, working class, putting a shift in, like Baggies, Everton etc. Wolves make themselves less, conflict with their heritage, brand and market potential, the more they allow themselves to be defined urban and local. Everything Fosun have done has been to move us in the right direction, but Gray is a potential very wrong turn and is concerning.

13.) 31 Jul 2017
31 Jul 2017 12:50:49
Victory v - he hasn't put it behind him. His scar from gang fighting, that he's stated he got because he grew up in Wolves which is a rough dump, is his main twitter photo. He's made his scar, and his gang background his brand. Him at Wolves is going to help brand the City negatively to the Nation, the opposite of Afobe.

14.) 31 Jul 2017
31 Jul 2017 13:53:42
Appreciate it's your opinion Ulf, but your talking rubbish. Supporters, first and foremost want a successful club that plays attractive football. Who the players are, make no difference, as long as they give their all and do the job - make the club successful. Your theoretical marketing and demographic appplications, don't make the slightest bit of difference.

Gray any day over Afobe, as he is a better footballer IMO!